It wasn’t my intention, but with this draft I was able to prove, in a pinch, I can draft a pretty good fantasy baseball team for 2006.  Maybe they can show this draft on ESPN Classic.  If I can somehow bait my leaguemates into my DeLorean, I could win this league.  Rudy didn’t draft with me, but, after the draft, he said, “I really like this team.”  Knowing Rudy’s a fantasy baseball cougar, I know it wasn’t a usual team for me to draft.  Why did I draft it then?  Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t, as the old nugget goes.  Or maybe that’s nougat.  Nevertheless, it’s less than 20 minutes after drafting this team and maybe I’ll cozy up to it over time.  Maybe I’m just sore because I missed out on Kelly Johnson, Ian Stewart and Chase Headley.  Maybe, just maybe, I’ll be glad I missed out on those schmohawks when my Mr. Winkle calendar flips to July.  Maybe I’m writing this opening like I’m Morgan Freeman’s voiceover. (Go ahead reread the last three sentences.  Sounds like Morgan Freeman’s in your head now, right?  You’ll be hearing that voice for the next 72 hours.  Say hello to Daniel Johnston for me, you done gone crazy.)  Anyway, here’s my 2010 fantasy baseball team with thoughts on different rounds:

14 teams, Roto, 5 x 5 — C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL

2010 Fantasy Baseball Draft

Round 1 – Matt Kemp – This was my first “let’s mix it up” of many.  Kemp’s in the same tier as other guys (Drunky Cabrera), so it’s not a huge deal I took him.  Frankly, I expect big things from Kemp and don’t own him anywhere else, so I wanted to see what it was Rihanna kept talking about.

Round 3 – Felix Hernandez – Another zig vs. the zags.  I see your quesadilla and I raise you a pupusa.  Hernandez will be my preseason AL Cy Young pick when I get around to doing them.  I love me some F-Her.  Though, I don’t usually go for a starter this early.  My thought process was, I’m going to take one starter in the first 7 picks anyway, so what the hey, I’ll take this one.  As Simon Cowell would say, I’m a funny little thing.

Round 4 – Jose Reyes – Sorry, at 50 overall, I’m taking Reyes.  When September rolls around and he has 45 steals, people won’t even remember the cojones it took to draft him in March.  See 2009 A-Rod, Utley and Mauer for further proof.  In the Funston write-up of this draft, The Hardball Times guy called this pick out as the reach of the draft.  Guess you can’t make all the people happy all the time, but if I can make this guy unhappy most of the time, I might do okay.

Round 7 – Josh Hamilton – At 91 overall?  Gotta do it.  At this point is when I started to realize I might need six DL spots.  Hopefully, the only crack we hear about from Hamilton is the sound of his bat.

Round 10 – Vladimir Guerrero – Hey, 2006, what’s going on?  Say hello to your mother for me.

Round 13 – A.J. Burnett – At 175 overall, Burnett’s a guy that can win 15 and strikeout 200; yeah, I’ll take that.  Wanna know some other gems from this round?  Elijah Dukes, Nick Swisher, Juan Pierre, Leo Nunez, Ben Sheets and Lastings Milledge… Luckily, Dukes and Milledge didn’t end up on the same team.  That clubhouse would’ve been a mess.

Round 14 – Bobby Jenks – Usually I don’t comment on the closers I take, because closers are closers are closers — SAGNOF! — but I wanted to say Jenks isn’t a great pick here.  I’ll admit that.  My rationale is I’ll have too many saves and be able to trade some away.  As mentioned many times before, speed-only guys are like cars.  Drive ’em off the lot, they lose all value.  Closers actually gain value.  Further proof of this, I just traded Rafael Soriano for Matt Garza in a different league.

Round 17 – Mark DeRosa – And even with the Jenks pick, this is my least favorite pick.  Drafted around him were Ordonez, Kuroda, Willingham… So it wasn’t all peaches and cream out there, but Kelly Johnson was taken a few picks later by Pianowski of Y! and, well, that hurt.  Or Owski, if you’re Polish.  I thought I could grab DeRosa and Johnson would’ve been around for another round.  I should’ve grabbed Johnson since no one on the right side of loco is drafting DeRosa.  Anyway, I took Kouz later to spell DeRosa at 3rd then I can fill in UTIL with a hot waiver grab.

Rounds 18 and 21 – Scott Sizemore and Ian Desmond – Trying to shake some of the stank off myself from the DeRosa pick, I went upside2.  At MI this late, you can dream.  And you should.

Round 24/25 – Madison Bumgarner/Kris Medlen – They’re already off my team.  No room for guys with girl’s names, sorry.

  1. eltoo says:

    “funny little thing” chick is from my high school. My RCL draft started with Utley, AGon, F-Her, so I’m glad to see you took them there… for the rest of my RCL draft….

  2. Grey

    Grey says:

    @eltoo: Which one is she again?

  3. Kazmere says:

    11-team mixed 5×5. Are you more interested in picking up a 5th closer (Franklin Morales), or 6th SP (Cueto) before the season even starts? I have Oswalt, not sure what’s going to become of him and wondering which is more valued at this point.

  4. eltoo says:

    her name is pronounced “sHuh-Von” I believe, but she spells it: spwiohaub. close enough

  5. Mark says:

    Great site! I’ve been reading for months now and love it. I need your advice on a trade offer I just received.

    Fielder, Peralta, Liriano, Dee Gordon (Dodgers SS prospect)


    Votto, Stephen Drew, Ervin Santana

    I’d be getting the Votto side. This is a dynasty league where you keep all your players and Peralta will be losing his SS eligibility next year, meaning I’d have nobody to play SS next year. It’s also a 16 team league so there’s not really anything good I can pick up either. But that is a year away so it’s not too much of an issue. Let me know what you think. Thanks!

  6. D-backs on the mound: Rodrigo Lopez made a strong case for the No. 4 spot in the rotation as he tossed 5 1/3 scoreless innings. The right-hander, who has been locked in a battle with Billy Buckner and Kevin Mulvey, allowed three hits and one walk while fanning five.

    “Locked in battle with Billy Buckner and Kevin Mulvey”. No wonder the Dbacks are gambling on Webb’s shoulder. Those names sound doable for a Twice a month 5th starter, as a #4 its scary. Enough so that the Kris Benson reclamation project seems appealing.

  7. Ugh…I hate trying to decide on add/drops before the season starts.

    Still haven’t pulled the trigger on dropping JJ Hardy for EverCab. I need the steals, but I’m just terribly worried Hardy is an easy .275, 20 HR’s at SS/MI.

    With the Clement news, now I’m wondering if I should drop Laaatos (get it?) so I’ll have a decent C when Victor Martinez inevitably impales himself with his own tibia.

  8. PaddyTwoTimes says:

    @ Gray

    3 Posts today; whew I am becoming a whore.

    Of course the dude from THT would call your pick a reach. No one has the balls to call their own picks reaches; i.e. he took zobrist 29th OVERALL, Huston Street 10th or A. Laroach in 11 or even the amazing Dukes in the 13th.

  9. Mr.MojoRisin says:

    Maybe it’s the Met fan in me, but I think Reyes is a steal at 50!

  10. Jesse the Body says:

    Yo Gray,

    Draft conundrum on on my hands and I need your opinion on this one;

    My leage is a 10 team 5×5 H2H that is very competitive.

    I really want to draft Jose Reyes, but do you think its worth the risk to wait till the middle of the 4th round to take him?

    I also want Sizemore, and I know he wont be around in the fourth but I think Reyes might.

    Basically I want to have my cake and steal it too.


  11. Maitland says:

    Love posts like this. Puts things into perspective and see ways that you adjust to how the draft is going.

    One thing I gotta ask about, though, is about the, “Also, the difference between one of my upside picks and Yunel Escobar(notes) (Round 9) is minimal.” Do you mean, basically, that Escobar just not going to give you much and someone like Sizemore or Desmond will pan out to basically be that?

    With Escobar you at least know he’s most likely going to put up a decent batting average, weak homeruns. Desmond might not be in the majors in June. There’s a lot more question marks around Desmond/Sizemore, obviously, so, that seems like more than a minimal difference especially when you need 2b,ss, MI. So, could you just elaborate more on what you meant?

  12. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Mark: Thanks for the kind words! Trade’s very fair, and I’d do it because I could see Drew becoming more valuable and not Peralta.

    @Elijah: Yeah, the D-Backs pitching could be ugly this year.

    @Mark Geoffriau: You don’t need two catchers, but you can drop Latos for EverCab then see which one looks better out of the SSs.

    @PaddyTwoTimes: Yeah, well…

    @Maitland: Desmond has the starting job as outlined in the last post you commented on.

  13. @Grey: Good point…would the fact that this is a keeper league and I drafted Latos in the 24th round change your mind at all? I still have Kershaw, Price, Hughes, Scott Baker, Hamels, and Nolasco as keeper options, so the only risk if if Latos gets called back up and goes Lincecum on everyone for the rest of the year….then I’d be sad.

  14. Doug Ault says:

    @Grey: I scooped Frasor off the wire after trading Francisco Rodriguez for Ubaldo Jimenez,I think I got my cake and will happily eat it too

  15. B.J. says:

    Hey Grey, I have a draft tonight, it’s a CBS H2H 10 Team League. I’m a bit perplexed as to how I should approach this draft because CBS’s H2H is point based (I’m used to yahoo’s set up). I have the #2 pick and I’m 100% sure Pujols goes 1st, so who do I take at 2? ARod or HanRam and how early should I start targeting SP. We start 1 C, 1 1B, 1 2B, 1 3B, 1 SS, 3 OF, 1 UTIL, 5 SP and 2 RP. Weekly roster changes.

    single 1 point, double 2 pts, triple 3 pts, walk 1 pt, caught stealing -1 pt, home run 4 pts, Ks -.5, run 1 point, RBI 1 pt, SB 1 pt, hbp 1 pt

    Walks issued -1 pt, Earned runs -1 pt, hits allowed -1pt, hbp -1 pt, innings pitched 3 pts, Ks .5 pt, Quality starts 3 pts, save 7 points and wins are 7 pts.

  16. TY says:

    in a 14 teamer reyes at 50 is awesome, i took him at 37 in my 12 teamer, on the turn, he wasnt coming back….

    that pick might win your league for you, ya know…. same with me… but more so in your case being a 14 teamer. A first rounder that late if he stays healthy? SICK.

  17. mrbaseball says:

    wide world of sports Spanning the fantasy baseballl leagues to bring you the classic drops and adds

    here is a classic move in one of my leagues

    Post dropped Jose Reyes, NYM SS to Waivers

    Post added Brendan Ryan, StL SS from Waivers to Bench

  18. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Mark Geoffriau: Don’t think you should wait around for Latos, his arm’s barking and he’s sent down.

    @Doug Ault: That’s very nice.

    @B.J.: Hanley seems just as strong there.

    @TY: Yeah, that’s what I think too, but to each’s own, I suppose.

    @mrbaseball: Ha!

  19. Maitland says:

    @Grey: I know he has the starting job. But, isn’t that just the first of many hurdles that a guy like Yunel Escobar doesn’t have?

  20. Brian says:

    @Maitland: Escobar is a 10/10 player and that is not worth a draft pick unless you’re in an incredibly deep league.

  21. Chris says:

    Very nice draft in my opinion. Reyes and Hamilton both could easily produce first round value, getting them at 4th and 7th seems pretty alright to me.

  22. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Maitland: Oh, I misread your comment, my bad. Desmond can get 12/12 pretty easily, which is Yunel’s speed and power. Desmond stole 25+ bases in the minors, Yunel’s never stole more than 7. Their averages, Runs and RBIs will be pretty similar. If Desmond exceeds Yunel by even a little then people will be more excited by Desmond and he could fetch more in a trade, if necessary. Plus, we know Yunel’s ceiling. Desmond’s filled with upside.

  23. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Chris: Yeah, I thought so too. Thanks!

  24. @Grey:

    Drop Latos for Cueto? Or Kennedy for that matter?

  25. Strausburg is there as a FA too if Im feeling like holding onto him for 2 months.

  26. @Grey: Here’s the new team after adding Borbon and Cueto post draft, 7×7 10 team Hth With Total Bases, OPS (Good eyed sluggers bonus) and Losses. BAA (Hard to stream SPs).

    C M Montero
    1b J Votto
    2b C Utley
    SS T Tulo
    3b M Reynolds
    MI A Escobar
    CI A Dunn
    OF M Holliday
    OF N Cruz
    OF C Gonzalez
    OF D Span
    Util C Headley
    Bench J Borbon

    SP J Johnson
    SP C Hamels
    SP C Kershaw
    SP W Rodriguez
    SP K Slowey

    RP H Bell
    RP D Aardsma
    RP R Soriano
    RP C Qualls
    RP O Dotel

    Bench J Sanchez
    Bench J Cueto

  27. Big League Chew says:

    @Grey: This is hillarious. Not because of your team per say, but because I literally drafted almost the same with my team a few days ago. I think that you’re going to like the pick with FHer at #3. I have done that twice this year because the available talent at that time wasn’t worth picking up compared to the fact that I could get a potential #1 SP this year. I also think that K-Rod is steal of the year for where you can get him.

  28. B.J. says:

    @Grey: By the way this draft looks great. I hope you are right on guys like Reyes and Hamilton. I took them both in my Yahoo League and feel like they both can pay serious dividends if healthy.

    Only thing that concerns me about HanRam is he’s projected to score far less points in this league than ARod, Pujols, Utley and Prince Fielder and that’s jsut talking about bats. Lincecum is projected to get 665 points. these points based leagues suck! I have no idea why I decided to join this league and the CBS rankings are AWFUL, they have Halladay ranked 4th! I don’t believe it.

  29. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    Grey, I’m curious… have you participated in an auction draft this year? If so, have you posted the results? I’m an “auction-only” kinda’ guy, so while an article like this is an interesting read, I would be immensely more interested to read about choices/spending/strategy in a real-life auction draft (I read the article a while back on auction draft strategy as theory).

  30. infamy707 says:

    DId my first 20 man league last night:

    1. (4) Chase Utley
    2. (37) Justin Morneau
    3. (44) Mark Reynolds
    4. (77) Adam Jones
    5. (84) Cole Hamels
    6. (117) Carlos Quentin
    7. (124) Jake Peavy
    8. (157) David Aardsma
    9. (164) Mike Napoli
    10. (197) Dexter Fowler
    11. (204) Ryan Franklin
    12. (237) Phil Hughes
    13. (244) Alcides Escobar
    14. (277) Clay Buchholz
    15. (284) Mat Latos
    16. (317) Cameron Maybin
    17. (324) Delmon Young
    18. (357) Brad Lidge
    19. (364) Matt LaPorta
    20. (397) Casey McGehee
    21. (404) Carlos Guillén
    22. (437) Ramón Hernández

    Pretty short on pitching but any thoughts or suggestions on my draft?

  31. mapwheel says:

    You drafted El Caballo! Now you’ll have to rock a stick horse every time you watch an Astros game! (translation: You’ll never have to rock a stick horse because you’ll never watch an Astros game. Not even the Astros watch Astros games).

  32. Matthole says:

    @Grey: In retrospect; r u happy you went with adgonz in rd2 vs a 3B —getting dunn in 5th rd is 40hr 1b too, etc

  33. Jimbo says:

    my pitching is absolute crap while my hitting is decent, should i trade puljols for hanson and tiny tim

  34. ron mexico's papi says:

    Had my big draft over the weekend. We transitioned to an auction draft ($260 budget for a 26 man roster) for the first time this year. LOVED IT. Roster setup is C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, UT, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, Bn, Bn, Bn, Bn, Bn. By about pick 120 most people had spent WAY too much money and there started to be some stupid cheap values.

    Anyway, here’s the team along with the position in the draft where I got each player (in parentheses) and how much I got them for. Thoughts?

    C Geovany Soto $2 (114)
    1B Prince Fielder $32 (24)
    2B Chase Utley $32 (7)
    SS Ryan Theriot $1 (173)
    3B Kevin Youkilis $20 (25)
    MI Kelly Johnson $1 (203)
    CI Adam LaRoche $1 (222)
    OF Jacoby Ellsbury $26 (43)
    OF Nick Markakis $19 (93)
    OF Jason Bay $14 (115)
    OF Hunter Pence $4 (154)
    UT Alex Rios $2 (186)
    SP Roy Halladay $28 (42)
    SP Adam Wainwright $19 (81)
    RP Jose Valverde $12 (108)
    RP Andrew Bailey $10 (112)
    P Tommy Hanson $16 (63)
    P Jonathan Sanchez $3 (133)
    P Rick Porcello $4 (153)
    P Leo Nunez $5 (183)
    P Ted Lilly $2 (204)
    Bn Kevin Slowey $1 (231)
    Bn Johnny Damon $2 (224)
    Bn Troy Glaus $1 (240)
    Bn Ian Desmond $2 (243)
    Bn Chase Headley $1 (252)

  35. scrotum says:

    @Grey: Your F&F draft doesn’t seem very Razzbally. Who do you think drafted the best team?

  36. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: I’d let Strasburg be.

    @Big League Chew: Yeah, I thought K-Rod was decent value.

    @B.J.: Go A-Rod if you want, you’re not going to lose your draft in the 1st round anyway, barring injury to someone.

    @Awesomus Maximus: I have participated in one. I have a draft recap written, just needs a chance to post.

    @infamy707: You are a bit short on pitching, but that’s a pretty solid team for that deep of a league. Solid on the power and speed front. Quentin could make our break your offense. If he excels, you’ll be great. If he gets injured, you might have issues. Same with Hughes and Buchholz on pitching.

    @mapwheel: Ha!

    @Matthole: I am. I felt since I took Kemp int he 1st, I needed extra power, so that’s why I grabbed Dunn, Lee and A-Gon.

    @Jimbo: I wouldn’t.

    @ron mexico’s papi: How many teams?

    @scrotum: I’m in 7 leagues at this point, no real idea what the other teams look like in this league at this point.

  37. The Dude says:

    Did I read right and see the term “schmohawk” applied to Ian Stewart?


  38. jesse says:

    1,000 points for the pupusa reference. Aren’t those little Salvadoran delights delicious? I like mine to be of the frijol y queso variety, topped with some repollo and some picante and maybe a little bit of aguacate if I’m feeling frisky. Damn Grey, now you got me all hungry and whatnot.

  39. Grey

    Grey says:

    @The Dude: Hehe

    @jesse: Yes, that’s them. I had one yesterday. They are wonderful.

  40. K Krazy says:

    Hey grey, how do you feel about this team I drafted in my keeper league? (10 team, C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, 3x OF, 2x Util, 2x SP, 2x RP, 3x P – 7×7 with 2 keepers from prior [Sandoval & Wainwright])

    Pitching went early, so I held off in most cases until later. Not thrilled with a couple of picks (Dempster, Anderson), but not too bad. I seem to be a bit light in pitching.

    Your thoughts?

    1. (10) Miguel Cabrera
    2. (11) Matt Holliday
    3. (30) Grady Sizemore
    4. (31) Jimmy Rollins
    5. (50) Johan Santana
    6. (51) Jason Bay
    7. (70) Dan Uggla
    8. (71) Mariano Rivera
    9. (90) Raúl Ibañez
    10. (91) Ryan Dempster
    11. (110) Julio Borbón
    12. (111) David Aardsma
    13. (130) Brett Anderson
    14. (131) Adam Wainwright
    15. (150) Ted Lilly
    16. (151) Russell Martin
    17. (170) Ben Sheets
    18. (171) Jorge De La Rosa
    19. (190) Brian Matusz
    20. (191) Pablo Sandoval
    21. (210) Scott Sizemore
    22. (211) Cameron Maybin


  41. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    @Grey: How come no pic in your interview? No one can see your stache?

    “…It’s all Sumerian to me. I just knew I needed a big bat at first base (A-Gon). If he gets traded to the Red Sox because they can’t compete with only four first basemen, then that’s just gravy. And, for what it’s Wuertz, I like gravy.”

    Right off the top of your head? That’s brilliant stuff.

    I think that the cajones it took to take Reyes at your slot was a lot higher then some days later, when the thyroid issue mysteriously went away. The Hardball Times guy may be reconsidering… You can’t get Reyes at that position anymore, unless you are in a league full of of mopes. Was Dukes taken after he was cut? That would compound the stupidity. Guys in my RCL league seemed to draft more sensibly then some of the “sperts.” BTW, who chose Asdrubal at #87? Thats not a reach or a stretch, thats a massive elongation.

  42. Eddy says:

    Grey which side do you like:

    Buchholz and Aardsma


    Ricky “I think I have a decent shot of throwing a no hitter this year if I keep this up” Nolasco

  43. jesse says:

    On a baseball-related note, in a points league (where Rodriguez’ AVG won’t kill me), I have Sean Rodriguez at MI but Kelly Johnson’s sittin out there battin his eyelashes at me on the waiver wire. Do I stick with the 80 HR potential (or whatever it is) of Rodriguez, or do I hop on the Johnson train and ride it straight to Mediocre-but-at-least-not-terrible-Town?

  44. jesse says:

    @Eddy: I know you didn’t ask me, but if you did, I’d tell you Nolasco and it’s not even close.

  45. ron mexico's papi says:


    10-team league

  46. sean says:

    Street tried to stick with his throwing program this weekend and go back-to-back days despite some discomfort after resting before throwing, but he had to shut it down again. Looks like he’s supposed to miss the first month of the season now even if he stays on his current program.

  47. LosBlancos says:

    So Latos goes the ways of the dodo’s, pitching looks rough on the wire and the season hasn’t even started, do you like Maine, Gio the Hero, Carmona, or Chris Young?

  48. LosBlancos says:

    @jesse: Not sure if you want my opinion, but I would shoot for the moon with Rodriguez…hell I am doing it myself.

  49. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @jesse: you can find mediocre but at least it isn’t terrible when/if sean-rod falls flat on his face. but you are unlikely to find a guy who could explode onto the scene after you finally tire of mediocre but at least it isn’t terrible guy a few months into the season.

  50. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Eddy: nolasco and it’s not even close

  51. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    @Matthole: Yeah, I saw that comment you made about John Maine being a candidate for the Nattie Bumpo, or Nadir Bupkis award, whatever. Lots of Mets bashing going on in Razz and RCL. Seems like the Metropolitans are the only group these days that you can get away with ridiculing nowadays. :) Looks like Fred decided on CJ instead of JM, though. When in doubt, always chose the non-Met. Yeah, I get it…

  52. Eddy says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: @jesse:

    No problem, I love the input. And that’s good, b/c I’d be receiving the Nolasco side. The dude has NO closers whatsoever (couldnt make it to the draft, Yahoo default) so I really want to exploit that. Should I add another closer (thinking Jenks)?

    I’m gonna butter him up and spit out some of Buchholz minor league numbers, see if that convinces him.

  53. Howie says:

    Razzball (Baseball) iPhone app update? I’m saving a spot for it next to the RB FB app…

  54. Ashley says:

    Had my keeper draft yesterday, this is my team.. Was wondering if you think I should trade Ellsbury, Josh Johnson, and my 8th rd pick for Halladay and his 6th rd pick? Rajai Davis is a FA & I figure he could give me similar SB as Ellsbury… Thanks.

    C Matt Wieters (Bal – C)
    1B Prince Fielder (Mil – 1B)
    2B Ian Kinsler (Tex – 2B)
    3B Mark Reynolds (Ari – 1B,3B)
    SS Elvis Andrus (Tex – SS)
    OF Ryan Braun (Mil – OF)
    OF Jacoby Ellsbury (Bos – OF)
    OF B.J. Upton (TB – OF)
    Util Nelson Cruz (Tex – OF)
    BN Carlos Quentin (CWS – OF)
    BN Carlos González (Col – OF)

    SP Josh Johnson (Fla – SP)
    SP Tommy Hanson (Atl – SP)
    SP Ricky Nolasco (Fla – SP)
    RP Jonathan Papelbon (Bos – RP)
    RP Joakim Soria (KC – RP)
    P Matt Cain (SF – SP)
    P Chad Billingsley (LAD – SP)
    BN Heath Bell (SD – RP)
    BN Brian Wilson (SF – RP)

  55. Ben the M says:

    Grey, I have avoided asking you this because I really dont know what to ask. I am in a 20 team Dynasty League and I dont really like my roster as it is filled with players that are “good enough” to fill out my roster, but not good enough to get good trade values in return or build a solid young core. It is a 5×5 league with the 25 man roster + 5 minor leaguers (drafting to fill out our minor league rosters right now).

    Two things I would love it if you could give me feedback on

    #1 – How to make this roster work, ie who should I look to move and the type of players I should target.

    #2 – As is do you think this roster has any chance of competing?

    Here is my current roster.

    C- Matt Wieters
    1B – Kendry Morales
    2B – Dustin Pedroia
    3B – Michael Young
    SS – Brendan Ryan
    OF – Raul Ibanez
    OF – Alfonzo Soriano
    OF – Austin Jackson
    Utl – Paul Konerko

    BN – Adrian Beltre
    BN – Jake Fox
    BN – Yadier Molina
    BN – Christian Guzman

    SP – Dan Haren
    SP – Johan Santana
    RP – Heath Bell
    RP – Matt Thorton
    P – Hong-Chih Kuo
    P – Matt Guerrier
    P – Jose Mijares

    BN – Scott Baker
    BN – James Shields
    BN – Ted Lilly
    BN – Justin Duchscherer
    BN – Tim Hudson

    MINOR – Yonder Alonzo (Cin – 1B)
    MINOR – Todd Frazier (Cin – 3B)
    MINOR – Aaron Crow (KC – SP)

    I am loaded with Vets (Young, Beltre, Konerko, Ibanez, Soriano, Haren, Santana, Lilly, Hudson, Shields)

    and have a history of making not the best trades:

    Preseason last year – Joe Mauer & CC Sabathia for Pedroia & Haren

    Mid Season – Jose Cruz for Ted Lilly (had huge SP injury issues)

    and so far this year

    BJ Upton for Santana & Yonder Alonzo.

    Any thoughts on my roster would be welcomed as change does not come easy in such a deep dynasty league where youth has a huge price.

  56. Adam says:

    I’m entering uncharted territory tonight…joining my first H2H league, first two C league, using standard 5×5 categories plus hitter K’s, OPS, Losses and HR allowed for the first time, and to top it all off, it’s also my first auction draft…

    How would H2H and the extra categories impact your strategy? I was thinking about completely punting SP until I noticed there’s a minimum of 6 starts per week for the categories to count.

    Would you spend a bit more on a few elite starters to hit the minimum GS each week, then focus on closers and top MR to guarantee wins in the other pitching categories? Any advice on hitting?

    My keepers are:
    Hanley ($38)
    Kemp ($21)
    Longoria ($21)
    Mauer ($9)
    Votto ($9)

    unless you think Cruz ($1), Phillips ($18), Ubaldo ($1) or Mini-Donk ($1, but K’s added scares me) are worth throwing back a stud

  57. Adam says:

    @Ben the M: Your SP looks very good for a league that deep. You have too many bench players, but 3B is shallow enough this year that I’m sure Adrian Beltre/Michael Young would have some trade value, and Yadier might even have some in a league that deep. Maybe you can use a combination of them and/or some SP depth to get something out of your SS position, upgrade power in your OF, or upgrade RP in general.

  58. Adam says:

    @Ben the M: Also, I’m assuming you mean you traded Nelson Cruz for Ted Lilly. If you did mean Jose, that’s a pretty solid trade, kudos for not giving in and including Jay Buhner or Joey Cora.

  59. Grey

    Grey says:

    @K Krazy: Not thrilled with Dempster and Anderson, but your pitching looks okay. All the work Wainwright and Johan do might get voided by some of your later picks. You look light on speed and some of those late picks I like, but if you need to start them in a 10 team that is as shallow as yours you’re going to have problems. In that shallow of a league, you should have all All-Stars.

    @Paulie Allnuts: My stache scares people. Dukes pick was before he was cut, but still. Kinda eh. And, yeah, Asdrubal there seems a bit crazy.

    @jesse: I’d hold for now.

    @ron mexico’s papi: Aren’t auctions so much better? Nice to not have to worry about not losing a guy you want. Don’t like Porcello or bench hitters, but those are small issues with that team. Really nice team. Solid hitting even with Ellsbury bringing down the power. As long as Hanson proves me wrong and Wainwright proves Rudy wrong as a risky pitcher, you’ll be fine.

    @sean: Thanks for the heads up!

    @Howie: I have to ask Doc.

    @Ashley: I agree that Davis is very similar to Ellsbury, but I wouldn’t do that trade. I’d want more.

    @Ben the M: That team is a mess. You might not break 100 homers. Why do you have 2 catchers? And what are you doing with Beltre? Why didn’t you drafted the guys you have in your lineup better and forget trying to get backups? Your pitching is way stronger than your hitting. Trade Haren and/or Santana for two big bats.

    @Adam: Usually if a hitter Ks a lot they’ll also give you a solid OPS, so those more or less negate themselves. Losses are arbitrary, so I wouldn’t even think about that other than I wouldn’t want MRs getting vulture losses. I’d draft starters the same way I’d draft them in any league. You’re not going to win by just hitting minimums. Hitting — you have nice balance already, just keep going with that. re: Jose Cruz — ha!

    @Steve: Get off my lawn! See, and people are asking me what opponent team looks good, I don’t even know what teams I have.

  60. Steve says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: Awww, Paulie – I’ll show you and your boys some love. I’ve got Reyes, Wright and Beltran in a slow draft I’m currently in!

    @Grey: Might almost be time to bust out the ear trumpet.

  61. Ben the M says:


    Ha! Good catch on Jose vs Nelson, I wish it were Jose and not Nelson.

    So to clarify yes I gave up Nelson Cruz for Ted Lilly, but to be fair I didnt believe in him yet and my OF was pretty crowded with Upton, Morales (had OF eligbility), Ibanez, Soriano, and Nelson. I had Branyan Crushing balls from the 1B spot with Konerko doing enough to hold onto the Utl spot I felt like I should turn an OF into SP. Lilly was pitching well and no one wanted to give up an ace so with Duscherer and Hudston on the DL, Baker pitching horribly, and me trying to outsmart myself I pulled the trigger.

  62. Adam says:

    @Grey: Thanks for the help, but I’m still unsure about pitching. The way I’m seeing the pitching categories, top of the line closers/MR would give a big edge in saves, ERA, WHIP, HR allowed, and L, while giving me a chance in K’s depending on my opponent. If I only need 8 categories to take the matchup, those 5 semi-guaranteed category wins from my pitching would be huge…am I missing something here?

  63. Steve says:

    @Grey: Oh – and I’m guessing you wouldn’t have taken Vlad if there was only one Util slot?

  64. Ben the M says:


    I know it is a mess, but i have had that team for 4 years and back then Soriano was a stud, Beltre was hitting 48 bombs, Young was a top notch SS, and I was having conversations of whether to go with Konerko or Sexson. Beltre is only on my team because there isnt anyone on the waiver wire worth having at this point (20 teams * 25 players per team + all the minor leaguers that are in the system but havent been called up = about 550 players snatched up).

    Ill get to work on moving Santana/Haren for a big bat. Thanks for the feedback

  65. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Adam: One explosion from any of your closers or MRs or your one starter and you’ll lose all but Saves, Losses and HRA. So you’re locking up Saves, HRA and Losses and rolling the dice on everything else. Not to mention, saves isn’t a done deal week to week just because you have more closers.

    @Stephen: Thanks for sharing! I like that list of players a lot. I should since I wrote about almost all of them two to four months ago.

    @Steve: Yeah, no I wouldn’t have.

  66. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    @Steve: Thats better, now! Although personally, the only Met I own in four leagues is Reyes. Can’t be objective about my own team. I have found that out the hard way.

  67. Steve says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: Apart from a mild soft spot for the A’s and Cards, I have no strong team affiliation and so don’t care where my players come from.

    They are but stats to me.

  68. Adam says:

    @Ben the M: I definitely wouldn’t drop Beltre, I’m in a 10 team league and a 12 team league and he’s owned in both…There’s a big drop-off in 3B after the elite options this season, target somebody in your league who has Mark Teahen or Casey McGehee and is hating life right now

  69. paulzone says:

    This is a 10 team roto league with 8×8 categories (incl. Holds). Only 4 bench spots. What do you think? I want to pick up Joba (for SP holds) and think I have to drop McClouth (platooning?)…Beltran should go on the DL allowing me to either pick up another CF.

    C Geovany Soto
    1B Joey Votto
    2B Chase Utley
    3B Evan Longoria
    SS Alexei Ramírez
    LF Carlos Quentin
    CF Nate McLouth
    RF Nelson Cruz
    Util Ryan Zimmerman
    BN Carlos Beltrán
    BN Hunter Pence

    SP Johan Santana
    SP Chris Carpenter
    SP Cole Hamels
    SP Ricky Nolasco
    RP Matt Guerrier
    RP Ryan Franklin
    P Rafael Soriano
    BN Roy Oswalt
    BN Kevin Slowey

  70. Johnny says:

    Honestly that 401k joke on the last post was beautiful. I read the blog for the fantasy baseball insights. I stay for clever quips.

  71. Mikey boy324 says:

    Grey with the news that oswalt isn’t gonna miss opening day do you still feel comfortable drafting him?

  72. Steve says:

    @Grey: Grabbed Pedro Alvarez for a buck in the auction keeper. You like Stanton better? Thinking of the future here, obviously…

  73. Smell The Glove says:

    OK, just finished a shallow draft (10 team mixed, 5×5) and I’m debating making some moves now just after the draft but before the first wires clear and am having agita over them.

    #1 Have Kinsler at 2B but since he’s looking more and more like he’s going to be DL ridden the first week should I go with Rickie Weeks, Sean Rodriguez or Ian Desmond as a replacement (Weeks currently on roster but I’m drinking the S-Rod Kool-Aid HARD right now in wanting him before he explodes…yes, I just used Rod, Hard and Explode in a post…so you’re welcome porn addicts!).

    #2 I know you love Jonathan Sanchez, but for some reason Ryan Dempster made it our entire draft and is now sitting there on the free agent wire tempting me. One player as a solid track record now, one player is having a lights out Spring, one player is not on my current roster. God damn you Sesame Street, I know which one of these things doesn’t belong but can’t force myself to make the move!’

    #3 Aroldis Chapman was my last pick of the draft. Worth holding onto for now even though he doesn’t have the 5th starter slot locked or go elsewhere since it’s still a shallow (albeit Keeper) league?

  74. CoreyII says:

    Re the Frasor post from earlier today (and a question I asked the other day). Would you drop Downs now for Saito or Juan Giutierez? Think they have a better shot at getting saves eventually?

  75. Grey

    Grey says:

    @paulzone: Platoon? I wouldn’t drop McLouth. I also wouldn’t draft him, but you did that already. You need a deeper league when Pence is on your bench.

    @Johnny: Thanks!

    @Mikey boy324: I’m already pot-committed to him anyway. No going back at this point.

    @Steve: I’d hold Alvarez for now.

    @Smell The Glove: re: porn — Ha! 1. Desmond 2. That made me laugh, but I don’t see a question. 3. Hold him for now, wait for news.

    @CoreyII: Try Saito.

  76. Steve says:

    @Grey: Plays a shallower position?

  77. pharmdriz says:

    In a 6×6 league where OBP (in place of AVG) and TB are counted, is Ryan Howard so much better than Miguel Cabrera or are they still relatively close?

  78. Mikey boy324 says:

    @Grey: Ya i feel ya I have my last draft tommorow I was liking oswalt b4 the injury is there any1 I should target in front of him that wasn’t before the injury?

  79. Lis Franc says:

    5 x 5 + QS + OPS

    Which side do you like in a trade: C. Pena + Sanchez vs. Hamels

  80. Smell The Glove says:

    @Grey: Sorry for that, on question #2 I was basically asking for your opinion on Dempster versus Sanchez. I know you’ve been writing up Sanchez for quite some time now but in going back on your original rankings, Sanchez didin’t make the Top 80 (just outside it) while Dempster was #27 so in looking back to examine my draft I feel I missed something and have a chance still to correct it. MockDraftCentral has Dempster at #162 with Sanchez at #221.

    Oh, and I normally suggest your site to friends of mine for fantasy baseball advice combined with good humorous writing, that is…until a bastard friend of mine stole a player I wanted right before I drafted and chalked it up to getting advice from here…if you didn’t have a mustache that I feared and respected I’d come after your ass with a hammer for that.

  81. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, and he could be up quicker.

    @pharmdriz: Howard’s slightly above him, but they’re close.

    @Mikey boy324: No idea who you’re targeting or thinking about targeting now.

    @Lis Franc: It’s fair, Hamels is the best player in the deal. Depends on needs.

  82. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Smell The Glove: Dempster also made Rudy’s risky pitcher post. I’m likely not drafting Dempster anywhere. Bring your hammer. U can’t touch this.

  83. Steve says:

    @Grey: Bet you have a pair of the pants, too.

  84. Mikey boy324 says:

    @Grey: Usually guys like dempster price and hudson are being taken Around the same time as oswalt would you still draft oswalt ahead of them?

  85. paulzone says:

    @Grey: Isn’t Mclouth the odd man out with Heyward, Melky, Diaz?

    Never played in a shallow league, heck i had so many options, it made it very difficult to draft.

    I need to cut someone…who do you recommend then if not mclouth?

  86. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Mikey boy324: Oswalt, Price, Hudson…

    @paulzone: Melky and Diaz are a platoon. Why are you cutting someone? Can’t you just DL Beltran when he’s officially put on the DL?

  87. Smell The Glove says:

    @Grey: For an update on my Sanchez versus Dempster question, I just checked how Sanchez was doing in today’s spring traning game. Currently 6 IP, 11 K’s, 1 ER, and only 2 walks. The decision has been made for me…ALL HAIL GREY!

  88. Flyin says:

    So my league seems to be a lot different than a lot of other leagues, basically we do points and start a lot of guys.

    Hitters stats Pitcher stats

    Single/ RBI/ Run/ SB= 1 pt IP pitch= 0.75
    Double = 2 pts W= 1
    Triple= 3 pts L= -1
    HR= 4 pts CG= 4
    Sac Hit= 0.5 SHO= 6
    Sac Fly= 0.5 S= 2.5
    BB= 0.35 Hits= -0.35
    Intentional BB= 0.5 ER= -1
    hit by pitch= 0.35 BB= -0.35
    K= -1 Int BB= 0.35
    GIDP= -2 K= 1
    GIDP= 2
    H= 1
    NH= 10
    PG= 20

    C Mauer
    C Victor
    1b Fielder
    1b Pena
    2b Utley
    2b Asdrubal Cabrera
    3b Ian Stewart
    3b Chone Figgins
    SS Elvis Andrus
    SS Stephen Drew
    OF Crawford
    OF Werth
    OF B.J. Upton
    OF Granderson
    OF Carlos Gonzalez
    UTL Alex Rios
    UTL Nolan Reimold

    RP Marmol
    RP Aardsma
    RP Matt Thornton
    RP Scott Downs
    P Felix
    P Carpenter
    P Jimenez
    P Kershaw
    P Price
    P Slowey

    bench Phil Hughes
    bench Max Scherzer
    bench Colby Rasmus

    8 teams, Keeper, was able to win it last year in a tight race down to the end. Theres some sketchyness, like my UTL and bench spots and some pitchers but I’m probably gunna wait it out a little and see how the season plays out for a bit. Any input would be much appreciated, love the site, keep up the great work!

  89. greenmountaincoffee says:

    Better pickup?

    I.Kennedy or H.Bailey??

  90. Flyin says:

    opps tried to space out the Hitters stats and Pitchers stats so it’d be in columns but didn’t really work out. sorry bout that

    Single/ RBI/ Run/ SB= 1 pt
    Double = 2 pts
    Triple= 3 pts
    HR= 4 pts
    Sac Hit= 0.5
    Sac Fly= 0.5
    BB= 0.35
    Intentional BB= 0.5
    hit by pitch= 0.35
    K= -1
    GIDP= -2

    IP pitch= 0.75
    W= 1
    L= -1
    CG= 4
    SHO= 6
    S= 2.5
    Hits= -0.35
    ER= -1
    BB= -0.35
    Int BB= 0.35
    K= 1
    GIDP= 2
    H= 1
    NH= 10
    PG= 20

  91. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Flyin: Thanks for the kind words! Looks like your categories favor big time starters and I’m not sure you have them in this shallow of a league. Carp I’m wary about and Kershaw not exactly a CG type pitcher. The latter also walks a lot of people. Your hitting looks really solid though, so that’s good, since that’s usually more important.

    @greenmountaincoffee: Flip a coin. I’d go with Bailey.

  92. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: 6X6 ROTO (Ks and Hlds added) Would you trade Johan, Stewart, Fuentes for Wright? I don’t trust Fuentes AT ALL this year (Auto-pick…Killing me! lol)…I figure SAGNOF…is it too much? There are usable pitching options on waivers, so the open slots will help.

  93. Flyin says:

    Thanks for the quick response, ya I’d say I seriously slacked in the pitching department, but I went with hitting as a premium. There’s the likes of Arroyo, Buehrle, Liriano, and Zito on the wire, I just don’t know how I feel about those guys. And there’s the relative unknowns like Chapman and Rzepczynski. Plus the mysterious Chris Young (pitcher), I mean its only his 7th year, can he return to the 06, 07 form?

  94. LosBlancos says:

    Grey, any preference between these yokels:
    Maine, Gio, Carmona, or Chris Young? Looking for a 5th starter.

  95. Grey

    Grey says:

    @GopherDay: I’d take Wright there.

    @Flyin: Yeah, I have my doubts abut him returning to that form.

    @LosBlancos: Gio if he has a spot isn’t bad… The rest, eh. Young’s okay, at least he’s in Petco.

  96. LosBlancos says:

    Thanks, I know they all suck, league is pitching deep. Thanks for all the great posts, and best of luck smoking the Yahoo Crew.

  97. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Steve: Ahh yes… I remember reading that (auction draft) article now. Been a while. Guess I’m interested in something a little more current… I’ll be looking forward to that new auction draft article, Grey.

  98. tyler says:

    12 team H2H, non-keeper, WEEKLY transactions, no minimum IP each week.

    C – Napoli
    1B – Berkman
    2B – Phillips
    3B – Reynolds
    SS – Tejada
    OF – Holliday
    OF – Pence
    OF – Bruce
    UT – Borbon

    SP – Lincecum
    SP – Vazquez
    RP – Rivera
    RP – Jenks
    P – R. Soriano
    P – Hoffman
    P – Frasor

    BN – Ad. LaRoche
    BN – Strasburg
    BN – Kuroda
    BN – Duchscherer
    BN – Lindstrom

    Thoughts? The war room says I have a league-average offense (average player = 75/20/75/10/.284), but that I’d own people in pitching, especially since I don’t have to start the flier back-end of my rotation if they don’t work out (no minimum IP each week).

  99. Rick Dempsey says:

    @Grey: What do you think? I’d like to know what pickups to make for any shaky spots. Thnx.

    9 Team Rotisserie

    Wieters, Matt C BAL
    Pena, Carlos 1B TB
    Utley, Chase 2B PHI
    Young, Michael 3B TEX
    Ramirez, Alexei SS CHW
    Cabrera, Asdrubal SS CLE
    Jones, Chipper 3B ATL
    Ellsbury, Jacoby CF BOS
    Holliday, Matt LF STL
    Jones, Adam CF BAL
    McLouth, Nate CF ATL
    Damon, Johnny LF DET
    Hamels, Cole SP PHI
    Hernandez, Felix SP SEA
    Jackson, Edwin SP ARI
    Jimenez, Ubaldo SP COL
    Madson, Ryan RP PHI
    Marmol, Carlos RP CHC
    Nunez, Leo RP FLA
    Sabathia, CC SP NYY

    Jones, Garrett BN PIT
    Fowler, Dexter BN COL
    Baker, Scott BN MIN
    Chamberlain, Joba BN NYY
    Cueto, Johnny BN CIN

  100. royce! says:

    In a weekly h2h league, should one be less concerned about players with low AVG? Fangraphs’ writeup for Stewart reads, “Stewart is a better head-to-head or bench roto pick in fantasy because of the batting average problems.”

  101. Mickey says:

    Grey, you worried at all about Mora stealing bats from Stewart.

    You have alot riding on Stewart this year.

    And you convinced me to jump on board.

  102. Grey

    Grey says:

    @tyler: I agree with the War Room, so not much to add. Crazy that there’s no IP requirement.

    @Rick Dempsey: I think you should get a deeper league. I’m guessing there’s 5 OFs in your league and MI and CI, so your hitting looks solid. Looks a bit unbalanced when you have Pena and Ellsbury. What I mean is if something happens to one you’re in trouble in power or speed, respectively. Your pitching looks very strong, probably will be too strong and you’ll need to trade some of it for a better 3rd baseman or middle infielder.

    @royce!: It’s nice when you don’t have to worry about accumulating a bad average weak after week, sure.

  103. royce! says:

    @Grey: Makes sense. Like if you found that you were losing AVG week after week you could change a lineup to win the next week, but in roto the longer you play a low AVG player the deeper you dig yourself. You’d think I’d know this by now, considering I had Pena, Uggla, Iannetta and Stewart on my RCL team last year. Frickin genius, I is.

  104. Steve says:

    @royce!: Yeah – even a .240 hitter is going to have some hot weeks. Would be highly unlikely for a guy to start out at that level and maintain it right through the season.

  105. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: Thanks, he was really close to accepting Johan and Stewart for Wright, so I hope Fuentes will push him over the edge.

  106. ycqssxmnlay says:

    10 team 6×5 (w/OBP) league: C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, MI, CI, OF, OF, OF, OF, U, 6SP, 3RP. Any suggestions please?

    Soto, Geovany C CHC
    Fielder, Prince 1B MIL
    Kinsler, Ian 2B TEX
    Longoria, Evan 3B TB
    Cabrera, Everth SS SD
    Phillips, Brandon 2B CIN
    Stewart, Ian 3B COL
    Holliday, Matt LF STL
    Span, Denard CF MIN
    Upton, Justin RF ARI
    Werth, Jayson RF PHI
    Bruce, Jay RF CIN
    Theriot, Ryan SS CHC
    Fowler, Dexter CF COL

    Baker, Scott SP MIN
    Billingsley, Chad SP LA
    Harden, Rich SP TEX
    Lincecum, Tim SP SF
    Nolasco, Ricky SP FLA
    Slowey, Kevin SP MIN
    Bell, Heath RP SD
    Marmol, Carlos RP CHC
    Soriano, Rafael RP TB
    Correia, Kevin SP SD
    Matusz, Brian SP BAL
    Romero, Ricky SP TOR

  107. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ycqssxmnlay: Team looks stacked. On hitting and pitching. You’re around 300+ homers and about 175 steals depending on Everth’s contribution. Runs and RBIs look nice too. Other than your last few starters, I see very little wrong with the team. If you get ace performance from Harden, you should be golden there too.

  108. royce! says:

    @Steve: Good point. I wish I had taken more statistics in college (I actually went to a school with no electives, so it’s a moot point). That a player is unlikely to consistently hit a given AVG seems to have something to do with the randomness inherent in baseball. What I’m trying to say is that because, for example, whether a line drive becomes an out is based on chance or randomness, it is highly unlikely that the same amount would become hits every week for a year.

    I should be preparing for a draft and all I can think about is whether I’ve had a player in the past 2 years on h2h that has given me consistent numbers week after week. I think Wright did in 2008. [teenage girl voice] “Wright is sooo random!”

  109. Steve says:

    @royce!: Actually, I believe there is an exception. Pujols seems to hit .330 on Opening Day and then stays there all year…

  110. Grey

    Grey says:

    *****Tex hit by pitch on elbow. Left game.****

  111. Steve says:

    @Grey: Grrrrrr.

  112. ycqssxmnlay says:

    @Grey: Thank you! Love the site!

  113. royce! says:

    @Steve: Yeah totally. Except for the weeks in which the team that’s got him is going against me. Then he seems to always bat over .400.

  114. royce! says:

    If anyone is watching or listening to the Yankees game, could you please update on Tex’s status?

  115. GhostfacePrzybilla says:

    Who gets the better of Bourne and J. Vazquez for Span and Markakis?

  116. Honest Abe says:

    Hey Grey, I’m not thrilled about having Marmol on my team (especially since there is a k/bb category) but I was wondering if it’s worth it to absorb his terrible whip and k/bb in order to get some Ks and saves or if I should try to trade him for a lower end SP (maybe scherzer).
    the rest of my staff looks like this:
    SP Sabathia
    SP Hamels
    RP Soriano
    RP Aardsma
    P Slowey
    P Nolasco
    P Marmol
    P Frasor
    BN Thornton
    BN E. Santana
    BN Hughes
    BN Frasor

  117. Honest Abe says:

    (rauch instead of frasor on the bench)

  118. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: Oh dear…Well i didn’t end up with him on any of my teams…so I’m not TOO concerned.

  119. royce! says:

    @GopherDay: In 2 minutes I’ll find out if I get a draft position low enough to grab him so I’m pretty concerned. Maybe I should just go with my default Yankee-avoiding ways.

  120. royce! says:

    @royce!: Though I don’t have him in the RCL, which is obviously all that matters. Right now that’s the best thing about my RCL team that I can say– that I don’t have someone who may or may not be hurt. Otherwise…I got nothing.

  121. royce! says:

    @royce!: I draft second, so all this craziness is irrelevant.

  122. Grey

    Grey says:

    ***Tex day to day with a bruise, seems fine.****

  123. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Honest Abe: Depends what kind of starter you’re getting, I suppose, but you really don’t need a mid-tier starter with that staff.

  124. Tom Emanski says:

    LOL love the shot at Funston. Also, how the hell are his updates not called Funston Checks In? One of Jason Alexander’s finest works.

    This is a surprisingly unGrey draft, but I understand you were mixing it up. Vladimir’s creaky Russian bones could osteoporize at any moment. Hamilton, Oswalt, K-Rod, Fuentes are risky and I wouldn’t have drafted a guy like Lyon who could lose his job yesterday.

    This is weird, I’m picking on Grey’s drafting…

    OK my question: What are your thoughts on Jason Hammell? I got him with my 400th pick in one league. He’s owned by 0.5% owners on ESPN. This is a guy with a decent K-rate, still young, good FIP last year, pretty low strand rate, so what’s not to like? Coors factor can’t hurt him that much.

  125. Steve says:

    @Grey: Unlike Guthrie to not throw it right over the middle of the plate.

  126. B.J. says:

    I just finished a 10 team CBS H2H Points based league. I’ve never done a CBS league so it was a bit tough getting adjusted especially having done Yahoo for all these years. Anyways here’s my team let me know what you think. We start 1 C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 3 OF, 1 UTIL, 5 SP and 2 RP.

    C- B. Molina 1B- A. Gonzalez 2B- B. Phillips 3B- Wright SS- HanRam
    OF- J. Upton, J. Hamilton, C. Gonzalez UTIL- Chris Davis
    Bench- J. Heyward

    SP- J. Beckett, J. Johnson, C. Hamels, R. Oswalt, B. Anderson
    RP- KRod, Soria
    Bench- Scherzer, Liriano, Slowey, Lilly

    The points breakdown:
    single 1 pt, double 2 pts, triple 3 pts, walk 1 pt, caught stealing -1 pt, home run 4 pts, Ks -.5 pt, run 1 pt, RBI 1 pt, SB 1 pt, hbp 1 pt

    Walks issued -1 pt, Earned runs -1 pt, hits allowed -1 pt, hbp -1 pt, innings pitched 3 pts, Ks .5 pt, Quality starts 3 pts, save 7 pts and wins are 7 pts.

  127. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Tom Emanski: If he can avoid walking people, he could be a low 4 ERA guy, otherwise Hammel’s a mid to high 4 ERA guy, which isn’t great.

    @Steve: Yeah, but would’ve liked to see Tex get hurt since I don’t own him. Oh, well. Nice try, Guthrie!

    @B.J.: Your offense should be better in a 10 team league. You took a bunch of guys who I could see hurting you in this type of scoring. Your pitching should be all right.

  128. paulzone says:

    @Grey: i plan to DL beltran, but doubt joba will be available whenever that happens…

  129. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Geez, lots of distractions with this girl. Couldn’t Kemp date someone less distracting? Like Kim Kardashian.

    @paulzone: Sorry, too many comments, not sure what you’re talking about. Why wouldn’t Joba be there? He doesn’t have a starting job and the Yanks aren’t even sure if they want him in the bullpen.

  130. I am the Liquor says:

    Any change in strategy in a no IP limit/ 9P spots? Or no big deal?

  131. B.J. says:

    @Grey: So you’re basically saying I’m screwed!

  132. Grey

    Grey says:

    @I am the Liquor: I’d discount top starters a bit and make sure I had at least decent 7 SPs.

    @B.J.: Nope, just might have some work to do on hitting.

  133. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: Should I lose Soto for Clement, Iannetta or niether?

  134. pharmdriz says:

    @Grey: Thanks. I’m looking into trading Rollins, Brian Wilson and Ervin Santana for Howard/Cabrera (my team has almost no speed, so I’m probably just going to punt steals for the most part) and will pick up Madson and Frasor from waivers with my 2 open spots.

  135. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: Thanks.

    “i” before “e” except after “n”? My bad.

  136. I am the Liquor says:

    Not sure if this has been posted rotowire says Pie has beat out Reimold for Opening Day in LF. Not good for Reimold owners, could turn into a platoon I’m guessing?

  137. BaboonHeart says:

    @Grey: Fowler for De La Rosa a fair offer or should my offer include another guy? The dude with Jorge is new to the league, so I don’t know how he values players. I love the lefty and need a breakout arm.

  138. timSTi says:

    @Grey: Got offered this trade in a 12 team H2H non keeper. The league has a 9 pitcher max with 6 active pitcher roster spots. Kinda sucks. I drafted 4 closers w/o knowing that rule. Here’s the trade:

    MY: Rollins, Lind, & H.Bell
    HIS: HanRam & Garza

    My team right now is
    Napoli, Pujols, Stewart, Zimmerman, Rollins, EverCab(MI), G.Jones(CI), Lind, A.Jones, Cruz, Hamilton, Snider(U), Fowler(U), Headley(Bn), S.Sizemore(Bn)
    My 9 Pitchers are
    Lester, Hamels, Nolasco, Slowey, Correia, Bell, M.Gonzalez, Aardsma, Marmol

    Whatta ya think?

  139. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: In a dynasty league, how much more valuable is Hanley than Longo? The guy with Hanley is trying to trade for Longo….I have Wright at my Util.

  140. GopherDay says:

    @GopherDay: Drew is my starting SS….would that be fair to offer? Longo + Drew?

  141. This RCL drafting is rough. I like what I got so far tho.

  142. BaboonHeart says:


    Going out of my F’n mind… every time I get around devils…

    Pujols for Fielder, Lester + Hoffman? (Lester or Ubaldo? dude’s got both)


  143. GopherDay says:

    @BaboonHeart: What does your team look like? If you need the pitching, and saves, you might want to take it, but if your pitching is strong then that would be a no go.

  144. pharmdriz says:

    @BaboonHeart: Both have the potential to be monsters, but I think Lester is just plain better and has the better team behind him to maybe pull out a few more wins (not that we can really predict that one iota). I also think you have to take that deal.

  145. 10 Longoria
    15 Tulo
    34 Morneau
    39 Pedroria
    58 Ethier
    63 Markakis
    82 Hamels
    87 Kershaw

    Kibitz away please :)

  146. pharmdriz says:

    @GopherDay: I feel like you have to create a team that has the most value possible. Especially if it’s roto (though he didn’t say what format). You can always trade Lester for something ridiculous when he starts the season 6-0 with a 1.5 ERA if you really don’t NEED a player like that. And people always want saves.

  147. chet steadman says:

    So, I’m finally drafting in my first deep league of the season.

    Since I’m obsessed with gaming the Yahoo draft board, here’s a sample of interesting names with Y! rankings lower than 400 (who may get buried at the bottom of everyone’s draftboard until too late). Are you guys taking fliers on any of these?

    Sorry for being obvious here but Liriano, CoJack, Iannetta, and La Porta are no-brainers for a deep league. I am partial to Gio Gonzales and Rzeptar-on-Ice as well. And, of course, SAGNOF.

    Ricky Romero
    Brandon Morrow
    Brad Lidge
    Marc Rzepcynsky
    Jason Hammel
    Casey McGehee
    Shaun Marcum
    Chris Perez

    Jon Garland
    Carl Pavano
    Melvin Mora
    Justin Masterson

    Aroldis Chapman

    Andy LaRoche
    Joel Zumaya

    Kelly Johnson
    Travis Hafner
    Carlos Gomez
    Casey Kotchman
    Brett Gardner
    Chris Iannetta

    Francisco Liriano
    Gio Gonzalez
    Will Venable
    Jeff Karstens

    Matt Joyce
    Matt Gamel
    Matt Laporta
    Conor Jackson
    Jake Fox
    Clete Thomas

  148. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chet steadman: Nice list of hidden value. Lots of times people miss those guys. Kinda crazy Jackson’s 1000+, they probably have Barry Bonds above him.

  149. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Thanks for that article link. Not much of a worry for me… I only own him in FOUR OF MY NINE LEAGUES! Toying with the press is one thing, Trembley, toying with my fantasy rosters is another story entirely.

  150. I am the Liquor says:

    Which side Slowey/F Morales for L Nunez?

  151. herschel says:

    @Grey: joking aside (somewhat) do you see the rhianna thing having an impact on kemp’s season at all?

  152. BaboonHeart says:

    Yeah I’m thinking Prince, Lester and try to squeeze Hoffman out of him too.

    @Chet: Thanks for the list. Most of those guys went in my draft – CoJo went earlier than I thought actually.

    Gio’s still around. I might give him a sniff.

  153. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: Okay…what about Longo and Billingsley? for Han-ram

  154. GopherDay says:

    @GopherDay: Staff is loaded ahead of Bills (Lincecum, Greinke, Hamels, Ubaldo)

  155. chet steadman says:

    @BaboonHeart: Yeah, it’s rare that these players all make it to free agency, but it’s also good to be cognizant of how far down they are.

    The people who print out non-yahoo draft sheets (and actually follow them as the draft goes on), and the people who filter by position, tend to spot these buried players towards the end of the draft. But they definitely come at a substantial discount.

  156. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Thinking ahead… I have little to no interest in a platooning Reimold. Mind ranking these guys strictly as Reimold handcuffs (I know they offer different things) for a quick pickup now, just in case?


  157. BaboonHeart says:

    @Chet: Fox is another guy who might be a nice surprise, although Oakland’s a long way away from the friendly confines of Wrigley.

    Mora (who’s always picked up and dropped too many times to count in one year) and Kelly Johnson are on my radar too but I had KJ last season and he was soooo awful.

  158. John says:

    Hey grey just got proposed this trade and was wondering who’d you rather have

    Montero for Ianetta

  159. Terrence Mann says:

    @chet steadman:

    Nice list. Also, Jeff Clement is #1264 and EYjr is #1216.

  160. GopherDay says:

    @John: He’s been asked this a few times already…Montero.

  161. chet steadman says:

    @Terrence Mann:

    Good eye–those are two players I’ll definitely consider drafting.

  162. Mini Donkey!

  163. BaboonHeart says:

    Prince + Lester is too rich for the man’s blood.
    Albert for Prince and Ubaldo? I don’t think he’ll go for that either. He’s going to come back with Prince and Baker, which I don’t think I’d take. I want a top 20 arm as well as big corner bat.

    I just offered another guy Albert for A-Rod and CC. He’s also got Beckett, who I’d ask for after CC.

    The dude with Kershaw + Miggy is really thin on pitching, so I don’t think he’ll bite. I also don’t love Kershaw since he throws too many pitches and gets yanked early – not good for QS.

    Hey quick Milton Bradley over/under 130 games played this year?

    It seems like a revelation that I might be able to

  164. John says:

    @GopherDay: my bad i didnt see it i guess..

    Grey i was wondering if you could take a look at my team for a 10 team league and see what you think

    Cats used are: R, H, HR, RBI, SB, K, AVG, OPS

    C: Montero
    1B: A. Gonzalez
    2B: Stewart
    3B: Beckham
    SS: Reyes
    OF: Braun
    OF: Upton (Keeper)
    OF: Dunn
    OF: Bruce
    MI: Andrus
    CI: Votto
    UTIL: Quentin

    BN: Borbon

    Pitching is a lil crazy and uses an odd scoring system so its hard to say its value its more of a hitter heavy league

  165. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Thank you, sir. I just realized that your OF rankings go that deep, so I could have answered that question for myself. My bad…

  166. Pat says:

    I’ll be rooting for ya Grey. Keep us posted on how the league’s going. What a joke that the Hardball Times doode called Reyes a reach! When I saw you got him there I loved it. I think your rotation will be boringly effective with Oswalt surprising some people. In my main Yahoo league we have K/BB and QS and Oswalt is helpful in both.

  167. The later it got in that RCL league draft the more it resembled the latter stages of a pot luck dinner.

  168. chet steadman says:

    @John: That lineup is absurd. Especially with OPS.

  169. GopherDay says:

    @Pat: If he’s pitching…..I’m an astros fan and I hope he goes on to have a great season, but if he’s injured, well….

  170. royce! says:

    @Steve: @Grey: I just hope it’s not Buster Posey sending those letters…the LA/SF rivalry is crazy enough as it is. Hopefully it’s Buster Bluth.

  171. Panti Jose says:

    Is Ian Kennedy worth picking up over Padilla, Clayton Richard, Jaime Garcia, or Homer Bailey (I have these 4)? For what it’s worth, deep 15 team league with very little on the wire.

  172. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @royce!: LMAO

  173. I am the Liquor says:

    Grey do you think Feliz will be the first option to start once one of Feldman, Harden, Lewis, Harrison, and Wilson fail or get hurt ( sooner rather than later, I’m guessing) or he stays in the pen?

  174. BaboonHeart says:

    @Panti Jose

    I like Kennedy over all of those guys.

  175. Dim says:

    2B/Util combo: Utley/Bruce or Stewart/Teixeira?

  176. Grey

    Grey says:

    @royce!: Ha!

    @John: The offense looks solid. Light on steals if Reyes is up to form, but here’s hoping he is.

    @Pat: Thanks!

    @I am the Liquor: Seems like he would be.

    @Dim: Utley side.

  177. Adam says:

    Just finished my first auction draft…12 teams keeper, 7×7 H2H (added OPS, hitter k’s, losses and HR allowed, min of 6 starts/week)

    C – Mauer ($9 – keeper)
    C – Clement ($1)
    1B – Votto ($9 – keeper)
    2B – Stewart ($11)
    3B – Longoria ($21 – keeper)
    SS – Hanley ($38 – keeper)
    MI – Everth ($2)
    CI – Loney ($4)
    OF – Kemp ($21 – keeper)
    OF – Abreu ($16)
    OF – Pacman Jones ($22)
    OF – Pence ($14)
    OF – Coghlan ($6)
    Util – Headley ($1)
    Bench – Konerko ($1)

    SP – Nolasco ($24)
    SP – Hamels ($20)
    RP – Broxton ($21)
    RP – Dotel ($2)
    P – Beckett ($23)
    P – Slowey ($4)
    P – Ubaldo ($17)
    Bench – De La Rosa ($2)
    Bench – Danks ($4)
    Bench – Hughes ($1)
    Bench – Nunez ($3)
    Bench – Lyon ($2)
    Bench – Chris Perez ($1)

    Never done an auction draft before, so I’m not sure how to feel about this. My SP is pretty loaded, but I paid too much for it, as there were some great values around late. Broxton was a mistake, I usually have the SAGNOF mindset, but I was expecting saves to be much more expensive than they ended up being…

  178. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Adam: Decent job of avoiding hitter Ks, though you hit some potholes there. Your OPS should be very solid, real nice hitting team. Wasn’t sure how you put it together considering your pitching’s solid too, but now I see there’s keepers. That makes sense. Great job of finding bargains in the hitters and a pitching staff.

  179. Terrence Mann says:


    At first, I asked myself, “Did Grey really draft this team?” Then I looked at the individual picks and what you faced and most of it made sense. F-Her seemed strange until I looked at the guys taken after him. Blech. Nice value pick….and I like the way you rolled with the draft after taking him.

    Reyes looks like the pick of the draft at this point. After that, you went right back to your guns and took Dunn, the power guy. My big question is why would you take Carlos Lee over Pac-Man? Pac-Man would have been a solid addition to your steals at that point. Outside of trying to make up for AVG due to the Dunn pick and feeling you were safe on SB with Kemp and a healthy Reyes, taking Lee over Pac-Man just doesn’t make sense to me.

    Good job on practicing what you preach as far as pitching goes (with the slight F-Her twist). You drafted this staff as you’ve advised everyone here to. Waited on your donkeycorns where they had value and got the starters you needed to fit your system.

    Also like the Vlad pick after seeing what your roster looked like vs. what was out there. I can actually see you thinking, “Fock you clowns. If you wanna overvalue my MI sleepers, I’m going to load up on power and pitching and focking punt everything!”

    One other question. If Fowler falls one more spot, do you take him over Jenks? My guess is you do.

    I’ll be interested to see how this league plays out. It has to be satisfying today knowing you got an upside MI starter right after the Russell Martin pick.

    IMO, this is an exercise of rolling with a draft while having a pre-planned strategy mapped out in advance. I have a feeling your team will do just fine.

    If this draft were held a month ago before your analysis made it’s way across the internet like a cancer eating away at the Yahoo and ESPN rankings, like an unstoppable rebel force, you would have dominated this draft. With the Reyes and Desmond picks already panning out, your team is looking like the favorite already.

  180. david says:

    Grey, are you in any NL-only leagues? Links to those, please? Love to follow the trannies in expert leagues.

  181. fellas, apparently one of the guys in my razzball commenter league dropped (league 14)! we’re drafting thursday at 9 pm eastern. need one ASAP! email me: [email protected]

    it’s a 12 team standard rotisserie.

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