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The week 8 two-start landscape is particularly cruddy.  Sure, if you’ve got a Kershaw- or Miller-type two-starter you’re set; you’re awesome.  Good for you.  Those of us perusing the wire for our two-starters, though, are left with mostly turds.  It’s really bad.  We have ten dudes in the “DON’T START” tier.  Our previous high in that department was six, and that week is the only other with more than three in the bottom tier.  Maybe I’m just in a pessimistic mood, but I truly don’t trust the bulk of the week 8 crop.  Take it easy on the two-start streaming this week.

As always, probable pitchers are subject to change.  For a look at all fantasy baseball streamers, click that link.

MUST START

Clayton Kershaw (@MIL, STL); Max Scherzer (@CLE, MIN); Jon Lester (@CWS, CLE); Shelby Miller (@SD, @LAD); Hisashi Iwakuma (@CLE, TEX)

  • The Random Italicized Voice in the Shelby Miller section of Grey’s most recent buy/sell?  That was me.

FIRST TIER

Johnny Cueto (@NYM, CHC); Wandy Rodriguez (CHC, MIL); Cole Hamels (@MIA, @WAS); Jeremy Guthrie (@HOU, OAK); Yovani Gallardo (LAD, PIT);

  • As I alluded to in the intro, there aren’t many quality options available on waivers this week, but I’d still give a peek at the wire in hopes of snagging Jeremy Guthrie (58% owned in Y! leagues), or Wandy Rodriguez (52%).  Wandy brings the bigger upside if you’re choosing between the two, but I’m good with starting either in mixed H2H formats for the coming week.  The others here are surely owned, and you can start ‘em if you got ‘em.

SECOND TIER

Jerome Williams (SEA, @KC); Wade Davis (@HOU, LAA); Julio Teheran (MIN, @NYM); Dylan Axelrod  (BOS, MIA); Scott Kazmir (SEA, @BOS); Jason Marquis (STL, @ARI)

There’s more to choose from in this group, but it obviously comes with more risk.  Jerome Williams (5% owned in Y! leagues) is a solid play, getting two favorable starts.  Wade Davis (5%) also has a favorable schedule, and might be worth a shot, especially if you’re seeking counting stats.  Teheran (24%), Kazmir (22%), Marquis (7%), and Axelrod (1%) are the last of the potentially useful options.

THIRD TIER

Josh Lindblom (OAK, @SEA); Kevin Correia (@ATL, @DET); Bartolo Colon (@TEX, @HOU); Felix Doubront (@CWS, CLE); Carlos Villanueva (@PIT, @CIN); Jon Garland (ARI, @SF)

  • Josh Lindblom (0% owned in Y! leagues) will fill in for Alexi Ogando, and will go twice in his debut week.  In 43 IP at Triple-A Round Rock, the 25-year-old posted a 2.08 ERA, a 0.88 WHIP and a 33/11 K/BB.  He has the most optimistic outlook in this group, but I still don’t trust him.  I’m also avoiding Kevin Correia and Carlos Villanueva, who’re both trending downward.  Colon brings a shred of upside with a start against the Astros, but the start at Texas, as well as general poor performance sorta offset that Houston outing.

DON’T START

Chad Jenkins (TB, BAL); Ramon Ortiz (TB, BAL); Phil Hughes (@BAL, @TB); Mike Pelfrey (@ATL, @DET); Dallas Keuchel (KC, OAK); Corey Kluber (DET, @BOS); Freddy Garcia (NYY, @TOR); Ryan Vogelsong (WAS , COL); Shaun Marcum (CIN, ATL); Alex Sanabia (PHI, @CWS)

  1. Chuckles Tiddlesworth says:
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    And Chuckie Newtown may lose his starting gig if Garza’s activated.

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Yes. I don’t know who Chuckie Newtown is, but I’m assuming he has an awesome mustache.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Scott Evans: per grey’s posts, this is carlos villaneuva.

  2. Frank Lynch says:
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    Wieters
    Fielder
    altuve
    starlin castro
    Zimmerman
    MCcutchen
    Justin upton
    matt holliday
    Carl Crawford
    Donaldson
    Jose Reyes DL
    That’s my lineup ( 10 team h2h points league) My question is, A guy in my league dropped BJ Upton and is now on the wire. I know he’s in a slump but is he a must pickup for my bench?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      If Donaldson is just wasting space on your bench, you can swap him for Upton — BJ is bound to catch a heater & his ROS outlook is better than Donaldson’s.

      • Frank Lynch says:
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        Whats ROS? But Donaldson is off the chain right now.. The guy gets me 30 points a week at least.. I don’t care if grey said to Sell. Like he said, later on he might cool down but for now he’s absolutley killing it..

        • Frank Lynch says:
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          The reason why I asked is cause I have nobody on my batting bench besides a DL, Reyes.. I’d rather have Pitchers getting me points every week then guys doing nothing on my bench.. Especially with my lineup, it’s crazy good and they can’t be bench switched by nobody reaLLY EXCEPT MAYBE dONALDSON. yOU AGREE?

          • Scott Evans

            Scott Evans says:
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            I prefer to have pitching flexibility in points leagues over guys wasting space on the bench. No need to mess with your current setup.

        • Scott Evans

          Scott Evans says:
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          ROS = Rest Of Season… Don’t drop Donaldson if you’re using him, obviously.

          • Frank Lynch says:
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            Thanks Buddy finally someone agrees with that. Why have sitting ducks when you can get points from pitching. Awesome!! Hey I’m looking for a pitcher to pickup and start for Sunday. Everyone that available on the stream o nator that’s available on my wire looks average to not so good except Vargas, but he isn’t that great but better then all. What do u think about grabbing Jason Vargas? QS 75% and W37% to L 36%.. Is that QS percentage matter the most or the win category?

            • Scott Evans

              Scott Evans says:
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              Vargas is useful tomorrow… on the stream-0-nato, I pay most attention to the $ category…

              • Frank Lynch says:
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                What does it mean in my league though? 10 team h2h points

                • Frank Lynch says:
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                  Vargas is $11.9 is that good?

                  • Scott Evans

                    Scott Evans says:
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                    Click on the “$” header to sort by that column & see how $11.9 stacks up versus the rest of the streamers…

                    • Frank Lynch says:
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                      Looks great cause most of the guys higher are ace’s.. What does it mean though? Also, is QS the 2nd most important?

                  • Scott Evans

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                    It’s just a measure… I’d ask Rudy if you’re curious about the components of the measure, but my understanding is that it aggregates all the other cats you see there, so there really isn’t a 2nd most important cat…

  3. TheNewGuy says:
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    Buy on Lincecum? Dont look now but Tiny Tim might finally be back!

    Checked his nos and hes had some clunkers but a lot of dominant ones aswell. Get the feeling he could put a big run together now so its time to jump on board.

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Nah, not for me… he’s become more effective with his sub-par velocity, but until elite velo returns (and it won’t), I don’t expect any extended periods of dominance.

  4. malamoney says:
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    Thoughts on Van Slyke?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Swinging a hot stick, but needs more playing time to be relevant outside of NL-only. I’m all for riding out the hot streak if LA decides to give him regular PA’s.

  5. gladys helmsley III says:
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    Is it becoming to look like Arcia OF is too inconsistent to be an every day player?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      I don’t think so. Standard ups & downs of a MLB rookie…

  6. farcus says:
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    would you go with two starts from teheran or one from ryu @mil?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      I lean toward Teheran.

      • malamoney says:
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        @Scott Evans: Me too considering his two starts are against the Twins and Mets. Dropped Hellickson to pick up Teheran, who I dropped a few weeks ago.

  7. Bringdaruckus says:
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    Feldman, McCarthy or Santiago today? Need a win and K’s. Thanks!!

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Santiago

  8. Jack Burton says:
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    2nd catcher question, Ianetta or Buck ROS? Thanks for any input.

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Iannetta

  9. CJ says:
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    What about Corbin, or Odorizzi?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Corbin goes twice… first tier… sorry for the oversight. No official word on Odorizzi, but my guess is that he starts Monday & goes twice…

      • Phil says:
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        Corbin in Col. Not a good start. Why first tier?

        • Scott Evans

          Scott Evans says:
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          He’s been awesome. Performance thus far trumps one bad match-up… I can’t imagine benching Corbin this week…

          • T.J. says:
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            Nice call on Jerome Williams! Thanks.

          • T.J. says:
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            @Scott Evans: Oops. And Corbin too! Thanks as well.

  10. malamoney says:
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    What the hell do I do with BJ Upton? This jabrony is stinking up my bench. His trade value is zero and his clubhouse welcome is wearing thin with me…

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Ha! well If he’s causing a ruckus in your clubhouse, that’s indeed a problem. Better days are ahead, but if he’s locking up your flexibility & just pissing you off in general, a hate-drop isn’t out of the question.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @malamoney: jabrony, such a cool word, where did you get it?

  11. Dan says:
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    Would you trade Kipnis for Aramis Ramirez?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      No

  12. Bitchesbeshoppach says:
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    Who do you pick for the remainder of the season. Alcedes Escobar, jj hardy, jhonny peralta or didi

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Hardy

  13. TheNewGuy says:
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    OBP keeper league (THAT keeper league, the one with prospects)

    Altuve (2 years at $6) for Phillips ($16, keepable for more depending on length of deal), who wins? I guess most importantly who wins for this year, is it fair?

    He wants speed, I want some more pop.

    • Scott Evans

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      Fair deal. If Altuve reaches double-digit homers, I like him over Phillips.

  14. Deep 14 mixed league. 6×6 (ops/holds).Redraft. h2h. Weekly line-ups. Few quick questions:

    1) I’m going to see what SON says as well, but would like your “human” take on these Week 8 SP options. Please rank these dudes (assuming match-ups as indicated):

    a. Edwin Jackson @ PIT
    b. Mike Leake @ NYM (assuming he’s not relegated to pen or demoted in favor of Cingrani, whom I also own)…
    c. John Gast @ LAD (assuming Westbrook not ready)
    d. Craig Stammen @ SF + potentially vs. PHI (assuming Detwiler not ready). Could be a sneaky 2 start play.

    2) You believe in Colby Lewis? Never owned him. With apologies to Yu, would typically never roster a Ranger SP in deep mixed leagues except solely as a match-up play, especially with summer coming in Arlington… I always prefer my SP in NL, when given the option. That said, Lewis is available – curious your thoughts on him especially coming back from injury. Judging from past peripherals, thinking he could be about: 100 ip, 7-8 wins, 3.80 era, 85-90k’s type. Asked Grey about this yesterday, but would appreciate your opinion as well.

    thanks

    • Scott Evans

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      1. Leake, Stammen, Jackson, Gast

      2. I really like Lewis if he can get to 100 IP. 3.75 ERA & good WHIP & almost a K per IP… I’m very skeptical that he’ll stay healthy, though.

  15. Wake Up says:
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    Which 2 do you like best for ROS?

    Wheeler
    Cole
    Odorizzi

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Wheeler & Cole

  16. Jason says:
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    I picked up Odorizzi but would you rather roll with him ir Wandy for the foreseeable future?

    I don’t particularly like wandy a matchups after CHC. And I have no clue what to expect from either.

    • Scott Evans

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      Wandy — his spot in the rotation is far more secure than Odorizzi’s…

  17. Ryan says:
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    I just picked up Odorizzi for curiosity, but the names of Hudson, Parker, and Estrada are still available to pick up. Who is will be better ROS? Thanks!

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Odorizzi is a good gamble… in terms of upside, he’s right there with Parker & Estrada for ROS.

  18. Herschel says:
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    Garza is lining up for 2 starts after coming off the DL, @pit and @cin. You running him out there right away? What tier does be fall in to?

    • Scott Evans

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      Yeah, looks like he’ll replace Villanueva… tier 2 guy… use with small degree of caution.

      • Herschel says:
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        @Scott Evans: in a weekly roto league, who do you like between garza, Teheran, odorizzi and bailey (vs chc)?

        • Scott Evans

          Scott Evans says:
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          Bailey

  19. Ryan T says:
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    Yovani or Wandy? both available on waivers.

    • Jason says:
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      @Ryan T: Yo

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Gallardo

  20. Yu so mean says:
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    My Allen Craig and Sergio Romo for his Albert Pujols? Standard 5 X 5 league, has Pujols declined that much where teh difference between Craig and him is not a top 5 close like Romo.

    With Stanton rotting away on teh DL i desperately need power. My other closers are Kimbrel, Soriano, Veras, Bell and Tazawa. I know Tazawa’s gonna lose his job when Bailey comes but Bell’s job looks pretty secure and he’s pitched well

    • Scott Evans

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      Go for it. I’d pull the trigger…

  21. KayCee says:
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    ROS, Hamels or Gio? K’s, ERA, W’s only. Whip not a factor.

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Hamels

      • KayCee says:
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        @Scott Evans:

        Thanks, Scott. Love this question. Killing me. Grey said Gio. You say Cole. It’s been about 50/50 across the webs… Not worried about his shoulder?

        • TheNewGuy says:
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          @KayCee: I’ll be the deciding vote.

          Take Gio. Hamels doesn’t look quite right this year and looks like its another of his down years (I had him a few years ago when he had one, 09?). Gio’s rounding into form nicely now after a sluggish start, time to get on board.

  22. TheNewGuy says:
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    Lets talk prospects, not gonna be long till Wheelers up right?

    Thats Greys biggest ‘stash prospect right now. Thinking I should add him in place of Taz(awa) once Baileys back closing for the Sawks. Reckon he’ll be up by early June? Seeing what Harveys done and how bad the rest of that rotation is, theres gotta be a lot of pressure to get this kid up soon.

    • TheNewGuy says:
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      @TheNewGuy: Non-keeper league obviously.

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Sometime in June seems very likely & not counting out early June. He’ll need 1 or 2 starts after this DL stint & if those go well no reason to hold him back any longer…

      • TheNewGuy says:
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        @Scott Evans: DL? Missed that.

        • Scott Evans

          Scott Evans says:
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          Short 7-day stint

  23. Jason says:
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    What do you think about Locke tomorrow vs Houston?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Good stream

  24. Oppo Taco says:
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    Jaime Garcia got hurt today, strained his shoulder. Since he’s a pitcher that’s held together with Krazy glue is wacha the next man up if Garcia is DL’ed? And if he gets the call is this kid an immediate pick up or wait and see? Thanks

    • @Oppo Taco:

      Curious Scott’s response as I think there are a few actionable fantasy moves as a result of Jaime – cause Im hearing its potentially pretty serious. Im thinking a few different scenarios are likely:

      1. Joe Kelly moves from MR to SP. Not a bad option either.
      2. They keep John Gast in SP rotation, and Westbrook slots back in when off DL.
      3. Depending on severity, maybe Carlos Martinez gets stretched out and joins rotation in a few weeks?
      4. Michael Wacha gets called up.

      thoughts, Scott?

    • Scott Evans

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      If it’s a long-term thing, and it looks like it is, Wacha.

      • @Scott Evans:

        Interesting. Rotoworld reporting the same thing as well. Personally, was hoping since Boggs was recalled maybe that meant Martinez would get a shot or do you just see them keeping Carlos in low leverage MR all year? His arm is ridiculous.

        • Scott Evans

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          Yeah, that’d be great for fantasy, but I doubt it.

  25. TheNewGuy says:
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    Need a Cards update straight from the source!

    Garcia out, whos the add. Wacha?

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Wacha probably…

  26. malamoney says:
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    Could Garcia’s season be doneski?

    • Scott Evans

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      Looks likely…

  27. gareth says:
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    I have garcia. I’m going to drop him for either a saves helper, or a wins helper. I an equally behind the leader in both categories (5 behind).

    I have felix, gio, gallardo, cobb, lynn, aj burnett, homer bailey as starters.

    My relievers are street, frieri, betancourt, greg holland.

    Garcia would be dropped for either bobby parnell (saves) or julio teheran (2 starts).

    3 of the above have to sit on the bench all week in my league.

    So my 2 questions are:

    1) who would you pick up to replace garcia?

    2) which 3 pitchers sit?

    • Scott Evans

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      I’d go with Teheran now & chase saves later… Sit Lynn, Cobb & Frieri.

  28. gareth says:
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    Sit gardner or lawrie for week 8? Cbs roto.

    Sit cespedes or trumbo? Weekly head to head.

    Thanks!

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Sit Lawrie & Cespedes

  29. TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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    Just traded Cespedes and Travis Wood for Alex Gordon. Fair Trade? My buddy said it was a trade rape but I don’t think it was that bad..

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Not great value for Cespedes. It’s a lopsided deal, but I’ve seen worse & if you’re addressing a need (AVG or Runs w/ Gordon) then it’s fine…

      • TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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        @Scott Evans: Yeah I’ve got a couple of power guys in Goldy and LaRoche, so I figured Gordon would be a nice player hitting 3rd in the Royals Lineup. Plus our scoring is H2H categories with OBP, Average and Runs as a few of the categories and Gordon should help with those. Plus I lost patience with Cespedes.

  30. Anal Herschiser says:
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    Hi! In h2h points, which 3 would you start out of Milone (@hou), M. Moore (nyy), Colon (@tex, @hou), Dickey (bal), Ryu (@mil)and Odorizzi (@tor, maybe nyy). Thanks!!

    • Scott Evans

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      Milone, Dickey, Ryu… I don’t trust your 2-start options

    • Scott Evans

      Scott Evans says:
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      Sorry… Milone, Moore, Dickey.

  31. Anthony says:
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    Hey Scott, where does Odorizzi slot in now that he’s been announced as a double starter? Would you start Odorizzi with his two over a single start Latos (vs Harvey)? Thanks

    • Scott Evans

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      Fringy tier 2 guy… usable, but not entirely trustworthy.

  32. Teblow! says:
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    Hello Scott,
    I don’t know if someone else pointed this out, but it appears Samardzija may be a 2 Start SP this week and if so, would you start him at Pitt and at Cincy.

    Thanks much.

    • Scott Evans

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      Thanks for the update… tier two guy for me… you can start

  33. Elwood Blues says:
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    Who is a better pitcher to take a chance on.. Burch Smith with the Padres, or Gast with St.L. ? NL Only 12 team 4×4 keeper, so Wacha, Wheeler, and Cole are already protected. Burch bigger upside long term lottery ticket? Or, Gast going to stick around in StL and continue to get wins with half-decent stuff, a safer play?? Do I pass on both and wait to spend my Free Agent money elsewhere? What are your thoughts on both?

    • Scott Evans

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      Smith brings more upside than Gast…

  34. rjh7 says:
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    Doesn’t Guthrie start @HOU and Vs.LAA this week? Not as decent as OAK.

    • Scott Evans

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      Yeah, sorry for the mix-up. I actually like the LAA match-up better than OAK…

  35. bob says:
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    Hi Scott why no menion of patrick corbin among 2 startpitcher? Isn’t he going at Colorado tonight ? And isn’t he also schedule t start again on sunday ? Id m info i right would yo start hi over either Cobb or samargida from cubs ? thanks bob

    • Scott Evans

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      Corbin is right there with Cobb, ahead of Samardz…

      • bob says:
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        Hi scott i am sorry but i don’t see any list where Corbin or Cobb or Samardz is listed I am looking at the 2 starters where you have a must start and then several tiers and i don’t see any mention of any of these 3 guys (although corbin is the only one of the three with a 2 start week ) ???@Scott Evans:

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