There’s guys who are sleepers who you can draft around the last round of a draft and get a solid number three fantasy starter production like my Cody Bradford sleeper. Tanner Bibee is not that. Whether you pronounce “Bibee, baby” like the Notorious B.I.G. or not. As mentioned in the past, and will mention again in the present, if you were to lose your pitcher rankings right before your draft, rather than calling in a bomb threat to your league commissioner’s house to get him to postpone the draft — don’t swat your Swat! — you could instead just use K-BB%. It’s not everything, but that or K/BB gives you the gist for guys who will be good. Then the other thing you can do without any prep work is just draft starters who are on great teams or in great parks. Mariners’ starters? Yes, please and Woo. Petco and Metco? They produce solid starters in very solid environs. By the way, don’t ever say “environs” out loud or the person listening to you has the right to punch you. Brewers park, whatever it’s called, isn’t great for pitchers but their pitchers have been solid for many years now thanks to their coaches. Tigers coach their pitchers up and their hitters to, well, act like they’re facing their pitchers. The Guards are in this illustrious group too. The Cleveland Starting Pitcher Factory that was built in a bombed-out Old Spaghetti Factory has churned out starters better than its old environs gummed-up and spat-out mozzarella sticks. (Again, it’s okay to read and write “environs.”) With his K/BB (4.25), K-BB% (20.1%), K/9 (9.7), BB/9 (2.3) and environs, Tanner Bibee excels, but how and why are what make him special. So, what can we expect from Tanner Bibee for 2025 fantasy baseball and what makes him a sleeper?
PSYCHE! My 2025 fantasy baseball rankings are all on Patreon. Don’t wait for the rankings to come out next month. Anyway II, the Tanner Bibee sleeper:
Tanner Bibee first jumped out at me when I was perusing Z-Contact%. This is the amount of contact a batter makes on a pitch thrown in the strike zone. Bibee had the 7th lowest. Here’s the top 9 (bottom 9?):
Not a bad list. It’s not everything, but think about what Z-Contact% means. The least amount of contact on balls thrown in the strike zone. These are strikes and hitters can’t touch them. That’s an excellent stat to excel at. The kinda hilarious thing is he’s 21st lowest (highest) on O-Contact%, the balls thrown outside the zone. Hitters are making contact on those balls, he said crossing his legs. To me? That too is excellent. Don’t you want hitters making contact on pitches off the plate? The only guys excelling at limiting contact in the zone and making contact out of the zone are Tanner Bibee and…Well, that’s it. Bailey Ober comes closest, but he’s 30th in O-Contact%.
Let’s look at that Z-Swing% too (percentage of pitches a batter swings at inside the zone). Notice how Bibee’s is the highest on that screenshot? He’s third highest in the majors. This is not, in itself, a great thing. Think what it means: A hitter recognizes a strike and swings. Could mean guys are sitting on pitches, could mean guys throw a lot of strikes and hitters are pounding shizz from here to Shiz University. But what makes Bibee special is how he gets more hitters to swing at strikes, minus two starters, and is 7th in best for limiting contact on those swings. Ergo, vis-a-vis, therefore, hitters are swinging at everything he throws and missing.
“How does Tanner Bibee do this, Fantasy Master Lothario,” you ask while batting your eyes all cute-like. Tanner Bibee’s slider and cutter are nasty eh-eff. He has the 5th best slider in baseball with a .196 BAA, and a cutter with a BAA of .141. Zoinks! His fastball was hit hard, which is the one thing you can say negatively on him. Well, you can also say negatively about how he deejays weddings with two hours straight of the Full House theme song under the name, D.J. Tanner Bibee, but for fantasy the negative stuff is very limited. His four-seamer’s .282 BAA wasn’t great, but it was .243 the year before and, with his control, I’d bet he gets it back to good vs. things going more pear-shape. Also, can we talk about how everyone should be taught a cutter? You throw a cutter and you’re gonna be great, this is a fact, Jack! And John, Joe, et al, and five girl readers’ names.
As I said, this isn’t some crazy late sleeper. Tanner Bibee is currently going around 100th overall, would’ve been a top 50 overall last on the Player Rater with two more wins (he was around 75th as it was) and is entering only his third full season, the year many starters come into their own. This is about as easy of a layup as starters come with where you’re drafting him vs. the value you’re getting. For 2025, my Tanner Bibee projections are 14-7/3.30/1.10/191 in 180 IP with a chance for more, even a Cy Young-type season.
Is it to early for you to rank these 8 SP’s with the intention of keeping 2 or 3. Sale, King, Gausman, Nola, H.Brown, Lugo, Gil, Ray. Thx in advance. 12 team H2H league I keep 8 players total I have Kumar Rocker as a minor eligible guy, so I can keep him too.
King, Sale, Brown
Pick 3 of 5 in a keeper league:
Josh Naylor
Pablo Lopez
Bailey Ober
Tanner Bibee
Riley Greene
Totally stumped. Thoughts?
Naylor, Bibee, Greene
Thanks!
No problem
12 team ottoneu points
Rather have a $12 Carter or $16 Butler? Thanks
Butler
Hi Grey, I am in a 12 team mixed roto league, keep 10 (can keep forever). I am currently deciding among the following keepers:
Naylor, Christian Walker, Semien, L. Garcia, Steer, Doyle, Gilbert, Snell, Michael King, Bibee, Fried, Reynaldo Lopez, Devin Williams, Helsley
I am leaning towards dropping Semien, Fried, Lopez, Helsley of that set if I can’t move them and keeping the rest.
Another owner is offering Rooker (UT only) for Snell, King, or Bibee. Would you take the deal given my keepers to upgrade offense? If so, which pitcher would you send first?
Are you concerned about Rooker’s forearm surgery this offseason? I like him, but concerned both about the surgery and his UT only role. He’d need 10 appearances to gain OF eligibility.
Thanks!
Rooker over Bibee
Thanks! Not concerned about his recent surgery for purposes of next year?
The A’s just committed more money to him than anyone ever so if they’re not worried I’m not
My cup runneth over in a 10-team OBP/QS 5×5 league, with 10 P slots. I can only keep 7 of the folks below; who you got?
Altuve – $9
Harper – $27
Ohtani – $51
Butler – $3
Seiya – $1
Ober – $1
Bibee – $5
F. Peralta – $9
P. Lopez – $12
Kirby – $15
Duran – $10
Baz – $1
Altuve – $9 Harper – $27 Ohtani – $51 Butler – $3 Seiya – $1 Kirby – $15 Duran – $10
would you rather have a $4 Profar or a $3 McCarthy in a points league?
McCarthy
I love the post. Great value! I’ve got him in 9/13 leagues now (yes, I have ten Gladiators done and one more to go).
Yes! Love it!
Of course you do this post and I get sniped. I had pick 89 last night and he went a few before. I had to zag to Hunter Brown. Getting him post-100 seems elusive to me. Such influence, Albright!
Haha, my bad
How do we feel about Jo Adell as a late round draft pick in 12 team? Hit .248 with a .771 OPS after making a toe tap adjustment at the break last year. Think he can manage .230 with 20/20? Hopium making me think he hits .250 lol.
Seems fine for a flyer
Pick 2 for ‘25! Jordan Walker, Luisangel Acuna, Roman Anthony.
Anthony, Walker
Only if he gets traded to the dodgers….
Haha
Glad to see you posted something today and are safe from the fires. I knew you lived somewhere around LA.
Yeah, not too far from fires, but far enough
12 team roto league, QS and OBP… Some choices to make…Can carry 4. Keeping Judge and Lindor so need two more…Lawrence Butler or Jordan Westburg or Matt McClain and Shane McClanahan or Joe Ryan or Hunter Greene. One year carry and then cannot carry again in 2026.
Westburg, Butler
Thanks Grey! If I decide to carry a pitcher among Shane McClanahan or Joe Ryan or Hunter Greene
?
None? Greene
I think Butler is gonna have a massive year. Not only the move to Sacramento, but also the fact that Rickey Henderson was his mentor and “adopted godfather.”
I love Butler too
Who would rather have this year: Albies or Christian Walker? If Albies, any concerns about that wrist?
Albies, not at this point
Love it! My pitching keepers are a mess. It’s an 11-team deep league (keep 2) and I have to decide between:
Tyler Glasnow
Kevin Gausman
Tanner Bibee
Shane McClanahanahanahan
Seth Lugo
I’m not even joking! I’ll check in with you again later, but I’m assuming that at this point, it has to be Glasnow and Bibee, no?
Yeah, it’s them
Tanner is a solid add for any staff, like him quite a bit. BTW we are in TO if you need a place, plenty of room. Winds a little calmer today, God Bless all those who lost it all
Aw, thanks! We are good! For now
Grey!!!!!! How’ve you been?
You might have already mentioned it earlier, but are you and Cougs all safe?
We are safe! Thanks! As long as she doesn’t try to cook…
No darth Grey sightings this year?
I didn’t do those
Hahah whoever did that needs to bring it back… altho I may be the only fan.
I need to acquire more haters
There are no good feuds in the fantasy community!
Don’t start any, I’m trying to live a stress free life while evading the fires
I would never! Glad your mansion is still safe. I can’t imagine what it must be like to lose everything like that.
We made a list of friends’ homes we could crash at who wouldn’t immediately kick us out if we needed to and you were ranked in the top 10
Jajaja Mi casa es su casa amigo
Haha
Grimey!!!
Miss you a tonne, Frank! That’s more than a ton!!!
Cheers,
Ante
What about me?
Ante hope all is well brother!
That slider cutter mesh is hard to avoid. Seems Bibee has done it. He was mediocre last year but this year could be the one
Yeah, agreed!
I’m looking to target an inexpensive pitcher in a 12 team 6×6 (QS is extra P cat) keeper league and have Bibee and Woo as potential options and was interested to see who you would prefer. Salary is about the same as is yearly contract. Both would be 2nd year keepers and could be kept for 3 more years.
I have Woo a tad higher than Bibee rn
Great write up
Is this around the range where you’re drafting your first or second SP?
I know your strategy is typically no drafting SP early, but are you finding yourself waiting until rd 5 or would you hold out until rd 7?Stay safe Los Angeles! Have a great weekend
1st one is around 50, Bibee is a 2nd SP — you too!
Noted, thank you FML! (Fantasy Master Lothario!)
No, thank you!