Sitting dead red (pardon the pun), and you can’t hit Hunter Greene. Allow me to demonstrate:

That’s just silly. Tell the hitter the ball is going to be right down the pipe, and it’s a JCVD to the windpipe. His fastball velocity averaged 99 MPH. To be a fly on the wall of the hospital room where Babe Ruth laid for the last time when a time traveler walked in to tell him, “A pitcher will one day average 99 MPH,” and then Babe closed his eyes for the last time, not wanting any part of that. Slightly off topic for a brief moment: It’s why it’s so funny when people try to compare different eras in baseball. Can you imagine Babe Ruth facing a 99-MPH hurler every time out? Putting aside his offseason regiment was chugging sodas with Fatty Arbuckle. 99 miles per hour on average?! That was best in the majors for a starter with at least 120 innings and the top ten are all guys you want: Strider, Sandy, Gerrit, Shohei, Castillo, Cease, McClanahanananananananan, Burnes, and Woodruff, in that order, with Woodruff at 96.2 MPH on average. Only two guys above 98 MPH are Spencer Strider and Hunter Greene. Velocity isn’t everything, naturally. Or unnaturally if you’re one of these guys’ shoulders. Nathan Eovaldi and his hot butter MPH and biscuit of garbage ERA are more the exception than the rule. The top 30 for fastball velocity are roughly 95% fantastic with the occasional Mitch Keller. So, what can we expect from Hunter Greene for 2023 fantasy baseball and what makes him a sleeper?

Psyche! Before we get into the Hunter Greene sleeper post, just wanted to announce that I’ve begun to roll out my 2023 fantasy baseball rankings on our Patreon. Lucky you (if you pay the $10/month). Also, Rudy’s begun to roll out his 2023 fantasy baseball projections. It’s version 1.0 and there’s usually about 4500 versions but just wanted to let you know. Anyway II, the Hunter Greene sleeper:

It’s really about the slider. Yes, I spent the first ‘graph telling you how hard Hunter Greene threw his fastball to goose ya up a little. His slider is the bye-bye pitch. He throws it from 87-90 MPH (minVel 80.9 MPH, maxVel 93.4 MPH), and the batting average against was .170. It brutalizes lefties too, especially impressive coming from a righty. The slider produced a 38% Whiff% and .261 wOBA. His batting average against lefties with all pitches was .205. That sounded great to me for a righty, so I searched for all starters vs. lefties, and it’s all aces again who have a .205 BAA vs. lefties or better. Wonder if that changes with the shift ending. Though, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Reds’ manager Dumb Bell is told that the shift ended, and Dumb says, “What shift?” The defensive alignment thing, Skip, you don’t have to worry about it. “Defense? Are we getting Eugenio back so I can put him back at shortstop?” Forget it, Skip.

The other thing that might worry people about Hunter Greene is his command. Last year, he had a 3.4 BB/9. With his 11.8 K/9, that will still play, but I’m here to tell you his command can and will get better. He was regularly a low-3 BB/9 guy in the minors, and even last year in the majors his walk rate went from 4 BB/9 in the 1st half to 2 in the 2nd half. Granted, it was 90 1/3 IP vs. 35 1/3 IP, but still that’s a huge improvement. Maybe Greene realized what we saw in that opening clip. He can throw bee-bees by hitters so why throw any BBs. I imagine a young pitcher is worried early on, or just nervous, but then they realize they can strike out major league hitters, so why play games with trying to dot corners? In the 1st half, he had five games where he threw 4 or more walks. He had zero such games in the 2nd half. Just bear down and ruffle some feathers, to mix animal metaphors. Even his strikeout rate went up in the 2nd half when I think he realized his stuff is so good he doesn’t need to widdle-waddle, he can just wowie-wee-wow with his K/9 going up to 13 in the 2nd half. Honestly, I don’t want to get too Horny on Main, but if Hunter Greene isn’t walking people, he might be a top ten starter this year.

Hunter Greene’s other bugaboo was his propensity to allow a home run or three. Not to whisper in your ear and get you too crazy, but guess what else he fixed in the 2nd half? He allowed 23 homers in the 1st half. Woof, I hear that. Guess how many he gave up in the 2nd half. C’mon, you know it’s a smaller number. Guess a number lower than 23. Wrong! He gave up one homer in the 2nd half. One home run in the entire 2nd half! I just kissed his player page. Okay, I think I’ve made a convincing enough case here why Hunter Greene is a 2023 fantasy baseball sleeper. For 2023, I’ll give Hunter Greene projections 10-7/3.72/1.16/209 in 164 IP with a chance for much more.

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swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
2 months ago

The Mariners felt like they needed 35 year old AJ Pollock?

Don’t they already have a bunch of upside guys in the outfield?

With J Rod and Teoscar, it sucks to be Kelenic and Trammell.

JohnnyDirtball
JohnnyDirtball
2 months ago

Sweet, I was hoping for a Hunter Green sleeper post from you. I have him penciled in as a keeper in the 17th round but I haven’t heard any news on him since the season ended but it looks like excellent value.
I’ll be coming in to 2023 with McClanahan (6th rd) Green (17th) and Gonsolin (19th). My first 5 picks will probably all be hitters as well as my 9th (Jazz) and 11th (Varsho). I keep thinking someone like Lance Lynn would be a good fit to round out my staff. You got any advice on who or what I should be looking for? In any case thanks for the best fantasy baseball write ups goin round.

greg balabushka
greg balabushka
2 months ago

question please – read your comments on the pitchers within this post – i am allowed to keep 2 players – of these 4–Goldschmidt, Devers, Lindor or STRIDER. after all has 2 keepers, I will be the 8th pick – anythoughts on which 2 to keep – much thanks

Harley Earl
Harley Earl
2 months ago

I’m not buying Greene is a sleeper. I think he’s legit already and most leagues are going to know this and draft him higher. What’s his ADP right now? I know when I’m already high on a guy going into a draft, that the rest of my opponents are well aware of him too. I liked what I saw from Greene last year and he flashed lots of the prospect hype potential. If you can obtain him as a sleeper in any league, there’s no doubt he’s worth a draft pick.

His ADP, according to Fantasy Pros is #108. That’s not a sleeper at all. That’s basically a top 100 pick, and I can pretty much guarantee in my leagues he’ll go between 80 and 100. Now, he’s as low as #222 in other places so he clearly hasn’t gained everyone’s respect. But the smart leagues already know this guy is a stud. Still, appreciate the piece, as it shows just how good this guy really was in the second half.

Harley Earl
Harley Earl
Reply to  Grey
2 months ago

OK, so his ADP is #120. I still don’t think that really qualifies him as a sleeper. Most people are well aware of Greene. And if they aren’t, they aren’t going to draft very well anyway lol.

But yeah, if for whatever reason he’s still available at #160, it would be a good move to draft him! lol

Harley Earl
Harley Earl
Reply to  Grey
2 months ago

You have said this before. I just didn’t feel like Greene really fit any kind of sleeper mold. But, perhaps in some leagues, he will get overlooked. I won’t be overlooking him!

Harley Earl
Harley Earl
Reply to  Grey
2 months ago

BTW, when do you release your five schmoehawk picks for this year? I love those columns!

Harley Earl
Harley Earl
Reply to  Grey
2 months ago

I look forward to reading them. You are profoundly good at those.

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
Reply to  Grey
2 months ago

My predictions for some of your schmos:

Gerrit Cole
Jacob deGrom
Randy Arozarena
Jazz Chisholm
Alex Bregman

All showing ADPs in the top 50ish

Will
Will
2 months ago

Yes, that 11.8 K per 9 and striking out 30.9% of batters faced are both lovely. But yikes, that 1.72 HR per 9 ratio is downright scary. He definitely needs another pitch besides the heater.

Will
Will
Reply to  Grey
2 months ago

On a much smaller innings count, as you also pointed out. But it’s a good point, there was improvement after the break. Another way to look at it is HRs he gave up by month:

Apr – 5
May – 10
Jun – 5
Jul – 3
Aug – 0
Sep – 1
Oct – 0

406mtechdigger
406mtechdigger
2 months ago

Thanks for all of your work Grey!

Building out my Keeper/Draft strategy and am curious about your thoughts….. 12 team $1000 H2H Pts League with FAAB from leftover $’s. Prices go up $20 per year until $100 then $25 per (Another wrinkle is that any player purchased for the 1st time at $125+ automatically starts back at $125 the next year). Can roster 7 SP’s and 4 RP’s. Max of 10 pitcher starts per week as well as a max of 5 FAAB claims per week. Daily starting roster is 4 SP’s, 2 RP’s and 1 P. 1 Catcher, 3OF and no MI or CI.

Planning on keeping the following:
40 C Adley Rutschman
20 1B Andrew Vaughn
60 2B Marcus Semien
60 SS Trevor Story
40 3B Austin Riley
80 OF Kyle Tucker
60 OF Julio Rodriquez
20 OF Michael Harris

20 OF Corbin Carroll
20 SS O’Neil Cruz

40 SP Tyler Glasnow
20 SP Christian Javier
20 SP George Kirby
20 SP Kyle Wright
20 SP Greyson Rodriquez

This leaves me with $460 for the draft where I am hoping to get one of Cole/Degrom who will both be up for auction as well as a top 5 1B and some depth. Generally, due to format, I completely punt on RP, use one of the slots for a RP/SP and the other 3 RP come from scavenging the wire early for non closers who will hopefully score top 20-30 pts in this format. I also have the guys listed below that I could keep.

80 1B Jose Abreu
80 OF Luis Robert
125 SS Xander Bogaerts
125 2B Ozzie Albies
60 OF JD Martinez
40 SP Frankie Montas
20 RP Andres Munoz

Any disagreements with my strategy? Any guys you would or would not keep that differs from me?

Really appreciate any thoughts you might have!

406mtechdigger
406mtechdigger
Reply to  Grey
2 months ago

I do pretty well! Thanks! Truly appreciate you taking a look for me!

Smitty
2 months ago

Good luck catching up to that unadulterated gas! Agree with the Cobblers

Stl Squat Cobblers
Stl Squat Cobblers
2 months ago

Hummina, Hummina, Hummina
Droolllllllllllll

Yes please n thank u!

toolshed
toolshed
2 months ago

I saw the Brewers signed Wade Miley. I was hoping another young pitcher, Ashby, would make a jump this year. While he has shown a propensity to be a whip killer by walking too many guys and giving up too many baserunners, he has shown the ability to get whiffs and keep the ball on the ground. He has been jerked around by moving in / out of the rotation and relief. Are you interested in him for this year?

galica1234
galica1234
2 months ago

Grey!!!!!

Awesome!!!

So good it hurts – your logic, the tweets and the advanced intel! Sold on Greene in round 10 (in a standard 12-team RCL draft) or?

Cheers,
Ante