Dioner Navarro’s batting in the .370s. Crapoli’s got ten home runs. Olivo’s not missing Miguel Cabrera’s hugs as much I thought he would. JR Towles seems at least a year away. AJ Pierzynski’s doing well — for him. Benjie Molina’s doing well — for Victor Martinez. Victor Martinez is doing well for Nick Punto.  I’ve split my teams between Navarro, Crapoli, Olivo and McCann. So far the team that has struggled most offensively is McCann. “Well, ain’t that the weirderiest of things, Grey?” Not really. And weirderiest isn’t a word. I overspent on McCann costing the rest of my team. Moral of the story. Punt catcher aka trade away any catcher that can fetch you something. So your homework assignment is to trade away Victor Martinez. If someone believes he’s going to turn it around, then turn them around, bend them over and… Well, get a piece for your team that you need. Anyway, here’s some more fantasy baseball players to buy and sell:


Rickie Weeks -His current 40 runs, 7 HR, and 9 SB are comparable with Upton and Phillips. His 19 RBI are a casualty of hitting 1st on an NL team. While he hit .235 last year, he’s improved all his fundamentals, his K rate is down from 28% to 21%, but his BABIP is .229, really low for a guy his speed. He should be able to hit at least .260 the rest of the way. Assuming, of course, he stays healthy. His .201 average lets you buy low. (BTW, if those numbers above spun your head a little, just take our word for it. He’s due.)

Jeremy Guthrie – 12 starts, 10 are Quality Starts. “Well, jeez, Grey, that’s a fluke, right?” Last year, he had an ERA of 3.70 in 175 IP. Don’t make me try and guess your password and pickup Guthrie for you.

Prince Fielder – Sure, the only thing up this year is his BBs. (That’s Boca Burgers, not walks.) So what are you worried about? He’s not fat enough to hit home runs? As Richard Simmons might say, “He’s got saddlebags like I have handbags, girlfriend!”

Alex Gordon – I was really counting on him coming out the gate hitting to his ability. Well, that didn’t happen, so if you don’t have him, I’d go out and get him because he had a solid 2nd half last year.

James Shields – They took the “Devil” out of their name. You don’t have to be scared of them anymore.

Chone Figgins – I don’t like all speed guys personally, but I also ask for three plates because I don’t like my condiments mixing. You gonna do everything I do? I know Figgins’s DL’d for his legs. I also know his owners are considering dropping him and would take just about anything for him. If you have an open DL spot, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t make a run at him. Just know you may have to sit on him for three weeks to a month, but it’s a long season. That burst of speed in July may be exactly what you need.

Kevin Kouzmanoff – Another sophomore (the “o” is silent, like when you make love to your woman — oofa!) that is struggling more than I would’ve liked. But he came on (your woman while you were playing fantasy baseball– ouch!) last year, and can do it again.

Justin Huber – Psyche! Just making sure you’re paying attention.

Jorge Campillo – Left his last start with a finger boo-boo, so I was going to leave him off The List, but I’m mentioning him so you keep an eye on him for his next start.

Dan Wheeler – I’ll reenact a comment from late March, “The Nats say Cordero will be back next week, should I bother with Rauch?”


Joba Chamberlain – Expectations are unrealistically high. When everyone’s zigging, what do you do? Zag, man, zag. Don’t, obviously, trade him for Tony Pena Jr. and a walk-on part on Gossip Girl.

Jay Bruce – If you got him off waivers and your offense is already stacked, you could move him for a very valuable pitcher. Bruce probably won’t bat .500 for the rest of the year. Cust kayin’.

Conor Jackson – Mark Grace, who I think is the best color man currently working, watches Conor and says, “He looks a lot like me.” Gracie’s got a point.

James Loney – Gracie looks at Loney and he says, “Loney wishes he were me.”

Ryan Ludwick – The Queen’s Assassin aka Vincent can hit 25 home runs. He’s at 13. You do the math.

Carlos Gonzalez – I popped a zit into my bathroom mirror and it spelled out, “Good prospect, but little light on the seasoning. Has value in AL-only.”  What other fantasy baseball ‘pert oozes this kind of knowledge?

Adrian Gonzalez – He trends to be a 1st half player, but he doesn’t have enough trends that support me selling him for fifty pence on the pound. Get value, or hold onto him.

Ben Sheets – “Maybe I didn’t say this aloud to all of youse, but the guy can easily” search that phrase on Google and you’ll see why I’m saying to sell. BTW, in that post you find, I’m remarkably brilliant. Prescient to a tee. Mustachioed to a fault. Only the David Murphy and Justino German blurbs seem slightly off and let’s be real, neither of those things really hurt you much. *pats self on back*  Self replies, “Don’t touch me.”

  1. steve says:

    What sort of pitcher can I get for Bruce?

  2. john says:

    Now CoJack is injured! First Dice-K, now CoJack..I really really wish one of my league-mates would have accepted one of those trade offers but nooo, now I’m getting bent over the way Grey’s girlfriend told me she liked it.(Bada-bing!)

  3. BSA says:

    So how many people riding the Kershaw train have jumped off?

  4. BSA says:

    Oh and another thing – why does Myers tease us, to stash or not? Can he get his shizznet together or not? Will the real Myers please stand up?

  5. Zebo says:

    what is a right lat strain? how long is that gonna be?

  6. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    Great — I finally have a decent night (BRUUUUUUCE!) and wake up to find half my team on the sell-high list. If my team is so full of sell high guys, why aren’t I doing better?

    I stand by my earlier Jay Bruce projections: .385, 42 HR, 168 RBIs, 60 steals, 14 wins and 8 saves.

  7. Does Nick Swisher wish he could be Jack Cust at this point? I’ve been holding on to Swish on my bench for two months now. Is it time to let someone else curse the guy? Will he ever turn it around? I was thinking of adding a Rafael Perez for holds. Wish, foolish? I defer to your wise puss projections.

  8. Grey

    Grey says:

    @steve: Wainwright, Maine, Hudson… See if you can snag Harang b/c he’s 2-7 and just pitched poorly. Anything less than top 30 isn’t worth trading for.

    @john: hehe

    @BSA: I’m still on aboard, but he doesn’t look as unhittable as Volquez. And I’m more saying that b/c of Volquez and less about Kershaw. Kershaw has some pretty nasty off-speed stuff, and when combined with his fastball, he looks unhittable too. But when he’s forced to throw a fastball… Castillo took his high fastball by the hair, put a brown bag over its head and bitchslapped its labia, similar to what John likes to do to baby donkeys.

    re: Myers — I’d punt at this point.

    @Zebo: Who are you talking about, Ian Kennedy? It’s an injury in the rib/back area. I think you’re talking about CoJack. Quoting the AZ Newspaper, “To make matters worse, Melvin said first baseman Conor Jackson had to leave the game in the eighth inning because of a right quadriceps pull, an injury he suffered while running out of the batter’s box. Melvin
    said Jackson won’t be in the lineup today.”

    That’s not good. A-Rod was out with a quad injury. So is Tulo. The best you can hope for is he is day-to-day for days. You can look to trade him, but do not start him until he’s been back for a game. I think that’s what happened to Jacobs about a month ago when he was supposed to be in the lineup and he ended up missing 7-10 days.

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Natch!

  9. BigFatHippo says:

    Why do I have 4 guys on the sell high list?

    Quit givin away my players Grey. Loney and CoJack man my corners (a little help from Chipper). Hope CoJack not hurt too bad.

    I’m keepin Bruce (keeper league). Ludwick I agree with.

  10. Endless Summer says:

    Votto and Bruce are both hitting incredible right now. Really disciplined when it comes to the strike zone, and hitting the pitches hard when they are strikes. I can’t trade either away, and Bruce looks like he is legit. My gut says keep Bruce, my heart says keep Bruce, but my head says trade Bruce.

    What kind of return do you think Bruce could command?

  11. cockyphoenix says:

    Nice. I just dealt CoJack and Harden for Miggy T and swooped on Dan Wheeler to fill the opened spot. Don’t I feel dandy? I’m keeping Jay Bruce though he’s mine

    @Zebo: The latissimus dorsi is a muscle originating on either side of the lower back that inserts at the shoulder, and is responsible for various shoulder rotations. If that injury is on a pitcher, I’d worry more than if it’s a batter.

  12. Endless Summer says:

    sorry, I just steve already asked about Bruce’s trade value…

    How do Kouz, Headley, Ben Francisco, and Rickie Weeks line up?

    I can’t get behind Campillo. He’s a 29-year old screwball pitcher who has had TJ surgery. He is killing it right now, especially against left handed hitters with that scroogie. How long do you think he can keep this up? He’s like a MILF, aging sorority chick, or cougar (think french toast chick from forty year old virgin). Nice for a one night stand (lineups with important lefty hitters), but at their age (29 for campillo), there’s too much history to think past one night.

  13. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Endless Summer: Ha, that’s a great analogy. That might just make it in a post one day, attributed to you of course.

    Campillo’s a real borderline Buy, as said above, keep an eye on him. He is a MILF, but he’s baffling people *right* now. Some people can take that right now and make it last two months. (Wow, that sounds like a Peabo Bryson song.)

    Kouz, Weeks, Headley, Francisco… Depends what you need. Obviously Weeks is steals, Kouz has track record, Headley has upside and is in the minors, Francisco’s *ceiling* is 15/15. That’s a pretty low ceiling, unless we’re talking fifth OF in deep leagues.

  14. Endless Summer says:

    one more question: Guthrie or Parra? Who to pick up?

  15. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Endless Summer: I think Rudy would say Parra. I have Guthrie on three teams. Parra might be on waivers in one of those leagues, I wouldn’t switch them out.

  16. cockyphoenix says:

    If you had to bench a closer, who would you go with?

    Putz (Felix vs. Verlander)
    Capps (Maholm vs. Parisi)
    Jenks, Wheeler (Vázquez vs. Kazmir)
    Nathan (Bonser vs. Wang)

    I think J.J. but I’ve changed my mind twice already.

  17. BSA says:

    Looking over my team I am now starting to balance my proven veterans with rookies and sophomores. I want to do something with rookies but since I have picked them up off FA and my league likes to leave some quality available for the pickin’ and/or drop quality because it is slumping I will probably stand pat for awhile.
    My lineup has changed to:
    Mauer, Morneau, Utley, Greene, Longo, Vlad, Pence, Quentin, Bruce
    bench: Figgy, Wells, Victorino
    I am considering sitting Pence for Victorino next week since Victo seems to be on a tear.

    Pitching question since I still struggle with this matchups/ballpark play:
    Starters are:Bedard, Cueto, Harden, Hudson, Kershaw, Lincecum, Shields
    Closers: Paps, Rauch, Ryan
    I want to start four next week.
    Anyone have input as to who my top four are for week 10 – h2h basic CBS points?

  18. BigFatHippo says:

    I think Zebo was talking about Ian Kennedy. Strained right lat. If you’re relying on him to help your team Zebo, you need more help than that.

  19. BSA says:

    As Grey and I posted last night about my league allowing Victorino to sit out there in FA and I dropped Damon to get him. A team picked up Damon while I went and snatched back Victo.
    I then posted a message to him that I wouldn’t have picked Damon over Victorino – don’t plan on me dropping him again anytime soon.
    He posted back today asking me what other moves I would make on his team.

    His first base is CoJack and CGuillen. Remember Votto is on waivers.
    He has Harang as I read Grey today tell someone Harang would be a good pluck for Bruce – his outfield is Damon, MBradley, Sizemore, and Markakis.

    don’t you hate those ethical dilemmas? I match up once more this season against him.

  20. BSA says:

    @Grey – re: Myers – I don’t have to punt cuz I don’t have him, just sayin’ each time I look away and laugh at leaguemates he screwed the last few weeks he does something to pique my interest.

  21. cockyphoenix says:

    Did Myers get his fastball back or did he just pitch against some pansies?

  22. BSA says:

    He may just be that woman who looks hot in the dark, from a distance, with beer goggles.

  23. Zebo says:

    should I give up Ellsbury and Co Jacks as the center piece in a deal to bring me Tex or G. Atkins?

  24. Grey

    Grey says:

    @cockyphoenix: re: which closer to start — You may as well be deciding between snake eyes and box cars. Long term, you’re better off just trading for a piece you need if you can’t get a closer in. If it’s a one time thing cause you have a lot of starters going today, as Malcolm Gladwell would say, go with Putz, he was your first instinct.

    @BSA: Bedard, Hudson, Lincecum, Shields — I’d try and trade Harden while he has value. If you want a two start pitcher, go Harden over Hudson — though as we know he may become a one start pitcher because of injury.

    @Zebo: Yup, and I prefer Tex.

  25. BSA says:

    Boy, Grey – You weren’t kidding about your feelings about Harden. If you could look at harden as someone with value and you saw my team – what is he worth aside from that donkey tied out in the yard with only one good eye and a sag in his back.

  26. peter says:

    @Zebo: I wonder how CoJack leaving the game last night w/ a quad strain impacts his value right now.. My thoughts are that, if you can get pretty fair value for him, go ahead and include in a trade.

  27. BSA says:

    Having Harden is OK if I like to continue playing with fire. Overall do I have more upside with a Guthrie, Litsch, Wellemeyer, or fellow glass jaw contreras – all of whom are on my apple tree of a free agent market

  28. Zebo says:

    the team with Tex does not have SB threat, giving him Jacoby would undoubtedly upset the current balance in the league, and put him light years ahead of everyone else, even tho I get a nice piece (Tex) back. Also I am in contention in SB right now cuz of Jacoby, losing him would mess me up. I do understand Grey’s thinking that in a vacuum, Tex has greater value, but what do I do right now? I can try trade something to acquire Carlos Gomez to offset somewhat.

  29. BSA says:

    OK – Another team, Damon pick up, is interested in Bruce. his pitchers are: santana, harang, garza, wainwright, westbrook and his outfield is Damon, MBradley, Sizemore, and Markakis.
    Go shopping with a wallet full of Bruce….

  30. scott says:

    @ Grey — just got offered G. Floyd and Cueto for D. Navarro. I have Posada coming off DL this week. Is Floyd’s performance sustainable? I already have Vazquez and Contreras. Should I shy away from adding a third White Sox pitcher? Should I ask for Campillo instead of Cueto?

  31. wakeNbake says:

    Im trying to get Torii Hunter, which of these pitchers would be good enough to offer for him. Billingsley, McGowan, Verlander, Oswalt ??

  32. p0rk burn says:

    Re: Brett Myers last night – he was incredibly hittable in the first inning, so much so that he looked like his regular ’08 crap-bag self. He didn’t really start pitching well until he had a giant lead to work with. Maybe its all in his head. If it is in his head I don’t think that really makes things better for him. The Marlins aren’t quite “pansies” but they don’t have the intimidating line-up found on some other teams. I’d stay away from him if it was my decision.

    @BSA: If I was the guy with CoJack looking for help my first move would be to drop him for Votto. I’m not a believer in CoJack maintaining (even less so than Votto). At the same time, whats really in it for you to tell him that? I’d try to exploit his weaknesses to your own advantage. Its ethical, trust me I’m *almost* a lawyer. If you can’t trust our ethics who’s can you?

  33. BSA says:

    I’m not sharing my track on Votto – I may even try and package Bruce with something for one of his players (see my latest). Other than Harang, Markakis, Braun, or Jeter. Obviously I could put anyone of them on my bench until they heat up – they can’t all suck as bad as they are playing right now.

  34. p0rk burn says:

    @wakenbake: If you can get him to take Verlander or Oswalt for Hunter I’d say you will come out on the winning side. I’m a huge Billingsley fan this season so I’d rather hang onto him than Marcum. How many guys will strike out 17 batters over 2 consecutive 5 inning losses? If we are playing “rank these players” I’d try to move them in the following order:
    Oswalt/Verlander, Marcum, and finally Billingsley.

    You might want to skip ahead in that list if you are afraid of pissing the guy off with lowball offers. But you aren’t scared, are you?

  35. wakeNbake says:

    cool.. appreciate the advice. I have Mcgowan tho not Marcum. Still put em in the same order?

  36. p0rk burn says:

    Shit, pitcher of beer at lunch strikes again!

    I’d leave the order the same but McGowan slides down closer to Verlander and Oswalt than Marcum. Marcum and Billingsley are both pitching well this season, McGowan not as much. You probably have a better shot at moving Verlander or Oswalt because of the name-brand effect. Even if somebody knows Nikes are going to give them blisters they are going to want them over more comfortable Keds most of the time.

  37. @Zebo: If you could get Teix or Atkins for a lame co-jack and Ellsbury, I do it. You can usually get SB cheaper than 100/30/100 types.

    @BSA: I’d take Harang or Wainwright for Bruce if you can get it.

    @scott: I don’t like Floyd. Cueto is better than Campillo. If you’re going to drop Navarro anyway, getting Cueto wouldn’t be a bad return. If you need K’s, go for it. Just realize that Cueto is going to have some bad starts…

    @wakeNbake: Before the season, Verlander. Now, I wouldn’t take any of the four for Torii out of context. If the team really needs a starter, ask them who they’ll take.

  38. BSA says:

    Am I selling Bruce short if I shoot for a sure outfielder in Sizemore or BJ Upton? Or another thought in my little salivating brain is Harden/Bruce for Harang. Heck I might consider Pence with Bruce to get Sizemore or BJ since my league might want to see a drafted player with a hot rookie to “level the playing field” and make sure people who play the waiver wire don’t woomp all over others who did well in the draft.

  39. wakeNbake says:

    think verlander and weeks would be a solid offer for torii hunter?

  40. scott says:

    thanks rudy.

  41. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @BSA: Pence/Bruce for either Upton or Sizemore would be a good deal for you.

    Harden/Bruce for Harang I’m less sold on. If Bruce is even as good as Pence was last year — Pence, not Braun — he’s giving you 5th/6th round value, which is about where Harang or a Harangian pitcher (i.e. solid #2) would get drafted. And I think Bruce has a decent chance to be better than that — say between Pence and Braun ’07, a kind of mini Carlos Lee over the last four months. Throw in ten healthy effective starts from a maximum K/9 man like Harden, and I don’t know that you’re coming out ahead.

    Bruce will likely tail off and have his ups and downs, but this is the top prospect in baseball we’re talking about, a very special talent. Sure, you could have said that about Gordon, but Gordon looked lost in his first few weeks, and Bruce looks anything but lost.

    Plus, I’ve got to say, there’s something fun about riding a crazy rookie phenomenon, even if you’re not coldly extracting maximum value. Who doesn’t love to have that one player everyone in the league covets? I for one plan to hold on to Bruce for the long haul, even though I’m in a one-year-only league. I just think it will be more fun.

  42. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @wakeNbake: You should get a better return for Verlander. Unless he’s hurt, he will put up very good numbers from here on out. His final numbers will be disappointing, but from June 1 to end of season should be very good. I wouldn’t trade him straight up for Hunter at this point.

  43. @BSA: Sizemore and Upton were generally picked in the 2nd or 3rd round. Bruce is a rookie. I wouldn’t worry about selling Bruce short. But I don’t think I’d trade him and Pence for Sizemore or BJ. Feels like you’re trading a bit too much there.

    @wakeNbake: Definitely a fair offer. Not sure which side I’d take on that one – leaning towards verlander/weeks to tell you the truth….

  44. BSA says:

    Yeah I want to ride him out there each week for the ride knowing as number one in my league everyone is watching and getting pissed that moves I make are around 5-7 days ahead of the curve, and they put too much value on the draft versus season waiver wire moves.

  45. wakeNbake says:

    what to do with Edwin Encarnacion? I feel he has too much talent to drop him. In the beginning of the season he was doing horrible but when he came around he went on a tear for about 2-3 weeks and I was glad i didnt drop him then. But now I dont know cuz hes been awful since. Still hold on to him?

  46. Endless Summer says:

    How does a trade of Dunn for Papelbon sound? I really need saves, and my OF is Dunn, Victorino, Markakis, and Bruce. I think it is a slam dunk deal in my favor.

  47. john says:

    speaking of closers…what kind of value do 2nd tier closers (e.g. B.J Ryan) hold, if you are dealing one to a guy in need of saves?

  48. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @wakeNbake: Eject and monitor. If he gets hot, pick him up again. No one else will grab him.

    @Endless Summer: Can you spare the homers? Personally I’d be more inclined to trade a lesser OF (Victorino) for a lesser closer (Soria/Rauch/Jenks). Or, if you really need saves, trade Dunn for two lesser closers.

    Don’t sleep on lesser closers — they are relatively undervalued, while name-brand studs like Paps are way overvalued, IMO.

    @BSA: Weird that people in your league are so prejudiced against waiver pick-ups. That’s the kind of completely irrational thinking — ‘I’m not going to pay you for someone you got for free’ — that prevents people from winning titles. Carlos Quentin was not draftable pre-season; he’s definitely worth acquiring now. Every year very good players develop and are acquired on waivers; seems dumb to pass up a chance to improve your team because you’re busy pouting that you missed out.

    God, I’m in an advice-y mood today.

  49. peter says:

    @wakeNbake: I feel your pain, wNb. With CoJack pulling up lame and likely to miss at least a few games, I’ve got to decide whether to start Encarnacion @ IF in a weekly league or try to find something on the ww. It’s a deep league, so there’s not much.

    Encarnacion’s 1-2 w/ an RBI so far, today. It may just be procrastination, but I’m going to wait and see what (if anything) he does today and tomorrow before making my decision. He’ll be playing in some nice hitters parks, next week. But, according to Rule 3-14, Part C, a batter has to make contact between his bat and the ball in order for a ball in play to be qualified as a “hit”.

    If anyone else wants to offer some moral support – up or down – regarding Edwin, please don’t hesitate.

  50. john says:

    I dropped EE to reaquire Victorino…I don’t regret it.

  51. BSA says:

    So I can imagine some, maybe most of my posts or questions make readers say, “What the $({&%$ is he thinkin’?” and on that note I have to say that I get quite a chuckle everytime someone asks, “what is so and so going to do this year?” or “when is so and so coming around?”

    I don’t know, I may start having a drink each time someone asks Rudy, Grey, BVV, and even of late porkburns that type of question.

    It may even help my posts…..

  52. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @john: Here’s my two cents, or at least the highlights of my two cents from a previous thread on closers:

    “The awesome thing about saves is that they’re the only category that is paradoxically a) inherently limited (i.e. never more than 30 closers out there at one time) and b) readily and suddenly available for absolutely free. So it’s all about supply and demand. You hoard the supply. You make the demands.

    However, make sure to trade your excess closers early, i.e. before end of May, after which people lagging in saves start to get dispirited and decide to punt the category (a moronic strategy, IMO). At this point, even elite closers lose their trade value fast.”

    And that’s me quoting me….. and that’s me quoting Grey.

    All of which is a long way to say, people who need saves need you more than you need them. So mediocre closers are disproportionately valuable.

    I may be wrong, but I’d say someone name-brand like BJ Ryan (who is more valuable in a trade than, say, an off-brand guy like Jon Rauch, even though he’s not more valuable in terms of actual stats return — another exploitable element in your favor) could fetch back Carlos Quentin, if your trade partner is desperate enough.

    I’d shoot for a) a reliable 2nd/3rd pitcher, a la Tim Hudson; b) a non-established good young player that your trade partner might think they’re selling high on e.g. Quentin; c) a decent-in-all-cats-but-master-of-none guy like Hunter Pence. (Pence seems to be weirdly undervalued in my league, precisely because he doesn’t do any one thing well; but he does everything well).

    This year, I already traded Ryan and Gregg for Snell and Pence. Snell’s imploded, so bad trade for me — except I dropped Snell for Wheeler. So you might say, in the end, I traded Ryan for Pence (i.e. 16th rounder for 5th rounder). So… very good trade for me.

    I also snagged Torres, so I’m back up to 5 closers (Soria, Rauch, Torres, Wheeler, AcostaSmoltz). So basically I replenished what I gave away, thus essentially getting Pence for F-R-Double-E. And now I’m trying to trade Torres to the guy who’s got Gagne in exchange for Ted Lilly.

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I love closer flipping.

    (Like I said, advice-y.)

  53. Endless Summer says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Thanks Baron, I knew there was something I wasn’t looking at that made this trade seem weak. I don’t like Paelbon, but I like how he will hold value throughout the year.

    @peter: EE is a very nice sleeper. His power is up, it just doesn’t look like it since his batting average is so low (Isolated Power, slugging minus batting average, 2007: .149, 2008: .185). Once the batting average comes around, there will be a lot more buyers. I was able to trade for Miguel Cabrera but I still like EE as a hitter this year.

  54. peter says:

    @john: Damn straight you don’t regret it. But in a 14 team league, a guy like Victorino just isn’t available on the ww.

    Update: Encarnacion is now 2-3 with another single.

  55. wakeNbake says:

    EE is 2/3 today with a RBI, maybe all this drop talk has inspired him.

  56. peter says:

    @wakeNbake: @Endless Summer: Clearly, it was Endless Summer’s level-headed words of support.

  57. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Endless Summer: For a second I thought you meant you were able to trade EE for Miggy Cabrera, in which case I’d head the committee to erect a statue in your honor at the corner of Thievery Ave and Hornswoggle Lane.

  58. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    Speaking of the Reds game, Bruce has now gone two straight at-bats without a hit, leaving him at 2-4. My finger is on the Drop button already.

  59. Endless Summer says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Ha! I wish. I reread it and it does sound like I said I traded EE for Cabrera.

  60. BSA says:

    BVV – right next to the Kershaw button?
    wakeNbake – let me try – KGreene sucks, I’m ready to drop him and his Ofer week.

  61. peter says:

    @BSA: re: K. Greene – I believe it was Grey who said of Greene in a comment not long ago, “let’s see how happy you are with him when he goes 3-42 in June.”

    Anyone heard anything on a Chase Headley call up? Tomorrow’s June 1.

  62. BSA says:

    No he was talking about Kinsler. I have Green because hopefully he realizes his potential is closer to 20 HRs and not 10 and I am on the right side of the upswing. With Grey’s premonitions about Kinsler rolling around my head I looked for a package and a partner that allowed me to turn Kinsler into Utley.

  63. BigFatHippo says:

    Jonathan Broxten sucks.

    Just thought you guys should know that.

  64. p0rk burn says:

    Hippo I feel your pain. After keeping an eye on Billingsley I almost had a heart attack when I saw the score was 2-3 all of a sudden. The good news is it was Broxton, the bad news is I really, really needed that win.

    Re: Kinsler – I’ve been riding his early season success. If the league I had him in wasn’t composed of people scared to pull the trigger I’d be shopping him around. This league also has Kershaw sitting as a free agent and Bruce was likewise available without a waiver pick. Ah, the joys of small rosters in a 10 team league. Next year I want to add 2 or 4 more teams and a few more positions because this is slightly ridiculous. “No, I won’t trade you for B. Molina, I’ll just pick Jorge up for free.”

  65. Grey

    Grey says:

    @p0rk burn: Wow, pop goes Jurrjens. Hmm… That’s an ugly line. Coupled with Broxton, I have a WHIP that looks like a bad ERA.

  66. BSA says:

    KGreene’s strikeouts are enough to make me wonder if YBetancourt or take Crosby out for a test ride.

    Here’s a good one – a team that has yet to win a game – sad because he seems like a good guy- just dropped EE for Winn

  67. BigFatHippo says:

    At least I didn’t have Broxten. But I needed that win bad too, so did Bills.

    Kaz, Webb, Hamels will do me proud and yes Grey, I’m throwin Bergmann.

  68. BSA says:

    Off current topic – Another Random thought!
    Grey as you have 15 teams out there in fantasy land –
    Are they inherently similar?
    Do you make a conscious effort to make them completely different?

  69. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BSA: I mix it up sometimes to the detriment of my team. Sometimes to its betterment. I was talking to Rudy about this the other day. For instance, he has Johan on every single team (I think) so on his last team he took Peavy in front of Santana for some variety. I think Peavy will be fine, but that could end up coming back to bite him. I do have certain guys on way more teams than other guys. Markakis, Guthrie, Shawn Hill, (had) Rich Hill, Rios, Wainwright, Navarro (as of now), Yunel, Maine, Rauch… Those guys I have on 3/4 of the teams.

  70. BigFatHippo says:

    The only guy I have from your list is Yunel. Love a multi position infielder, also have Carlos G, Kas Mat, any player with butt problems.

    (hope that’s not a fetish thing)

    What are your projections for Yunel?

  71. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BigFatHippo: 100/15/65/.290/12 — nothing crazy exciting, but it’s solid as my 2nd basemen.

  72. BigFatHippo says:

    Bruce just hit a walkoff BTW.

    Yeah I flop Yunel and Carlos from MI to CI and fill in as needed. Utley remains entrenched at 2b, of course.

  73. BigFatHippo says:

    Just had a revelation, a sign from above if you will. In the Razzball league I will be Team Carlos.

    Pick any name you want pork burn, I’ll have.



    Not bad…….

  74. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    Would love to chat, but I have to head out and get my JAY BRUCE tattoo.

  75. kfw says:

    just what in the sam hell does cole hamels think he’s doing these days

  76. Grey

    Grey says:

    @kfw: On one hand, I hope he has an injury and will sit out two starts then come back and be solid. On the other hand, I just want him to be solid. Damn you, contradictory hands.

  77. BSA says:

    cue the giddy school girl laughter as I think ahead to next week when Quentin, Utley, and Bruce start goin’ yard – over under for their HR totals

  78. Bob says:

    So, in a standard Yahoo league I got Corey Hart for my Jay Bruce. Did I sell high enough?

  79. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bob: That’s a solid trade for you. Well played.

  80. Bob says:

    I threw out six offers. This is the one that got accepted. However, this is my veto league, so I’m wondering if they’ve heard of Jay Bruce or they’re going to veto this one, too.

  81. BSA says:

    No kidding – Count will start on Monday at 7:00.
    Due to ballparks, nl, pitching etc. – next week sit pence or victo?

  82. BigFatHippo says:

    @Baron V V

    Just read your post on closer strategy, pretty insightful stuff.

    Did sort of the same thing myself. Auction league, 300 dollar cap. Drafted Nathan and K Rod last 2 years, overpaid but got who I wanted. Then I fill in with guys like Accardo when they become closers, Wheeler this year. Franklin too.

    Drafted Soria this year also but was able to flip him in a deal for Chipper. Currently 10 roto points in a 10 man league in saves and I have Smoltz coming back. Aquired him in a deal along with Nick the Whiffer (who quietly curses me under his breath from the end of my bench) for Kotchman and Chris Young (we all know how painful that turned out).

    My point? Draft 2 rock closers and fill in the rest, always hold your rock closers. Works for me.

  83. Bob says:

    Well, the Tampa Bay closer situation looks like a mess. Wheeler was unable to deliver. Is it worth bothering with this – to me it looks like Wheeler = Acosta, in other words, pretty unusable.

  84. Chase says:

    lackey’s my hero!

  85. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BSA: You’re seriously between Victorino and Pence? Is this an 8 team league? I hope you’re in first. I’d start Victorino.

    @Bob: Eh, I’d hold Wheeler for now. I wouldn’t carry two Rays closers. Flip a coin and take Reyes or Wheeler. I say Wheeler.

  86. BSA says:

    10 team – first in points and record.
    record of 7-1 – My one loss was the week and I sat Ryan for a starter and Ryan earned 50 – I lost by 20. Hate when that happens.

  87. BigFatHippo says:


    Don’t ever, ever trade Brandon Webb.

    Grey, how’s this for a line?

    36.2 IP
    5 GS
    2 W
    2 L
    30 K
    2.70 ERA
    .95 WHIP

    Thanks for the heads up on Bergmann, I’ll start him again even after 4 solo shots. No walks, 8 Ks. Homers don’t scare me much when nobody gets on base.

  88. BSA says:

    damn typo -why can’t we edit?

  89. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BigFatHippo: Wow, I wish I had those guys instead of Jurrjens and Hamels.

    re: Edit — I’m computer-stupid. I’ll see if my webmaster can do something.

  90. BSA says:

    Nah, not worth it. I just hate reading a typo with my name above it.

  91. BigFatHippo says:


    That was in spite of Hamels. He was the only one that screwed my night. Webb, Bergmann, Kaz, Hamels, Bills.

    Damn I love my pitching staff. Shields got no decision last night.

    Sorry, had to brag to somebody. League’s getting sick of looking up my ass from the bottom of the totem pole. Must be the fissures.

  92. wakeNbake says:

    Hafner and Sheffield are both on waivers in my league. Is either worth a DL spot? Also, looking to pickup a hitter…here are some available in my league. Kelly Johnson, Mike Cameron and Kevin Kouzmanoff.

  93. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    My night in a nutshell:

    Hamels: Smoked. Again.
    Acosta: Gives up walk-off homer.
    Wheeler: Chokes.

    But Jay Bruce makes it all okay.

  94. Tony B. says:

    Who do I add to my team as a back of the rotation starter…


    Categories: ERA, WHIP, K’s, K/9, K/BB, Wins

  95. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Tony B.: Guthrie. He’s a favorite around here.

  96. Tony B. says:

    @ Baron: That’s who I was leaning towards after doing a little investigating into his stats but wanted to include those other 4 pitchers who are available to me as well. I actually like Contreras the best but I have a sneaking suspicion that as soon as I add him he will revert back to Jose “Divorce Papers” Contreras…

  97. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Tony B.: Guthrie doesn’t rack up many flashy games — those 8 IP, 1 ER, 10K gems that warm the soul — but he rarely gets shelled, and puts up solid stats across the board.

    I have no idea what Contreras is drinking these days, but he should share it with all the other 68 year olds.

  98. Dan H. says:

    Dioner Navarro is lurking on the waiver wire and I’m looking to pick him up. That would require me dropping either Ivan Rodriguez or Ramon Hernandez. I keep thinking Hernandez is going to have to start getting hot to even out his atrocious start, but then again Rodriguez has been playing decent. Going forward who should I kick to the curb?

  99. Grey

    Grey says:

    @wakeNbake: Kouz, Johnson, Cameron, in that order. I wouldn’t mess with Sheffield. If you don’t have to drop anyone and you can just stash Hafner on your DL, it’s worth a shot.

    @Tony B.: Guthrie, Contreras, Slowey, Parra, punt.

    @Dan H.: I’d lose either. Really it’s a take your pick scenario. Hernandez seems like he’s a bit more of a negative, so I’d probably lean towards him.

  100. wakeNbake says:

    someone dropped clay buchholz in my league…think hes worth a waiver claim?

  101. Grey

    Grey says:

    @wakeNbake: Nah, he’s going to Triple-A. Unless you’re in an AL-Only league.

  102. Paul says:

    Hey, Grey, do your disturbingly frequent references to masturbation explain the blindness? Over the entire month, not word one on the one who had 41 hits in 28 games.

    Sorry, almost forgot, but Chipper OPS’d at over 1.000 last year. The winners last year were the ones who had Chipper and Braun, and Pena, while the losers, well, frequent references to masturbation and a mancrush on a dancing Jose Reyes. So maybe you should go from Grey to Latent?

  103. Steve says:

    What SS could Bruce get me? I have Renteria there currently and Rios, Markakis, Crwford and Hawpe in the OF (we start 3 + Util).

  104. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Steve: Furcal, if you can stomach that he’s on the DL. Maybe Tejada. Probably Jeter. Helps if you package Bruce with Renteria to send back the other way. Hanley/Reyes: Doubtful.

  105. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Paul: Sorry we didn’t spend more time stating the obvious – Chipper Jones is RIDICULOUS this year. Some similarly insightful news: Ichiro is fast, Pujols is a good hitter, Webb has 10 wins!

    Also, if you search the top left, Chipper’s mentioned. Repeatedly. Sometimes as Glass Chipper.

  106. p0rk burn says:

    Grey: Mind throwing up a post for the comment league? We have 5 open spots to fill. Also, I’m going to publish it on Y? so people can point and laugh at our teams and/or comment on our fortunes. Thanks.

    Direct inquiries to gl0bal.p0rk[at]gmail.com (those are zeros people). Priority will be given to active commenters so include your razzball.com name. Lurkers welcome as needed.

  107. Chase says:

    Paul, Grey haters are not welcome!

  108. Get Figgy With It says:

    Would you trade Jay Bruce, BJ Upton, and one the 3 relievers (Wood, BJ Ryan, or Papelbon)….for Zambrano, Figgins, and another one of his players…

    Would anyone do this trade?

  109. RT says:

    Looking for some feedback. A trade for Ichiro/O Perez for Eveland/Harden just got vetoed in my league. It’s a keeper and I inherited a team in last place. I am obviously building for down the road and see Eveland as Shaun Marcum next year. Also, I don’t need the stats that Ichiro provides.

    Whether or not this is a good or smart trade is not an issue. However, what I would like to know is whether it should be vetoed. If anyone remembers, two weeks ago I thought David Wright for BJUpton and BJRyan was not enough value. BUT, it did not get vetoed.


  110. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Get Figgy With It: No way. It’s a bad trade.

    @RT: I’m anti-veto unless the trade is absolutely chicken crap, i.e. Arod for Punto. In a keeper league, you really shouldn’t be allowed to veto anything that involves a rookie, unless again it’s absolutely horseshit. This trade is neither chicken crap or horseshit. It really sucks to be in a keeper league where you are not allowed to make trades to better your team for the future.

    Also, RT, you should repost this question in today’s latest post, because sometimes people don’t come this far back. Feel free to direct the people who vetoed the trade to come to the site and explain themselves.

  111. Chase says:

    Time to sell Mr. Quentin? What kind of value would you want back for him if you were to deal him? In SP and Batting?

  112. Joba Potter and the Chaimberlan of Secrets says:

    Trade Howard and Berkman for Carlos Lee, Derek Lee, and Carlos Quentin?

    I don’t think it but was thinking what other people thought.

  113. Joba Potter and the Chamberlain of Secrets says:

    Trade Howard and Berkman for Carlos Lee, Derek Lee, and Carlos Quentin?

    I don’t think it but was thinking what other people thought.

  114. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Joba Potter and the Chamberlain of Secrets: That’s not an awful trade if you really need an extra OF. Lee pretty equal to Lee, Lee is better than Howard in some areas and less in others. Quentin adds a solid OF.

  115. Endless Summer says:

    @RT: Work it to your advantage. Tell the person you’re trading with you can’t do the deal because you’re not getting back enough value. I would say that the most active members in the league don’t want to see so much talent move through the league, but that Wright trade says otherwise. Obviously people in the league value the players you are giving up, so you might have other offers for Ichiro or O Perez you haven’t explored yet.

    I don’t have much interest in Harden, but you could get Eveland for a struggling outfielder like Dye, Swisher, or Hawpe. Ichiro is a pretty valuable piece for a contending team. Loads of SB and guaranteed .300+ AVG.

  116. Ross says:

    I was offered prince, jason bay, and ibanez for sizemore and rios. ibanez i feel is drop worthy b/c my outfield already has carlos quentin and jay bruce and victorino. what do you think of that grey?

  117. This is my OF at the moment (start 3) – Alex Rios, Jay Bruce, Rick Ankiel, Joey Votto. I think I’m sticking with Rios and Bruce. Rios will turn it around and though I don’t expect Bruce to hit .500 with a home run every 2 days for the rest of the season, I think he’ll do well enough. Votto is my UTIL player and Ankiel is as sporadic as ever – I want someone I could leave in every day.

    My question is this – what currently underperforming OF could I trade for that is guaranteed to either turn it around or perennially has a strong 2nd half?

  118. Ethan says:

    I drafter V-Mart 4th for both my teams. I keep on hoping he’ll turn it around – he’s got to start start hitting home runs at some point, no? If not, who should I try to get instead?

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