The All-Star Break is over and we’re officially trucking towards your fantasy baseball trade deadline. So what should we do? Look back, of course. Through June 10th, Chase Utley led the major leagues with 21 HRs. Berkman was second with 19. Uggla had 18. Josh Hamilton, blowing the cover off the ball and not the blow off the mirror, had 70 RBIs. Adrian Gonzalez was 2nd with 57 RBIs, then the UtBerkmanley hybrid tied with 56.  For runs, Berkman held off the competish at 61, then Kinsler and Hanley at 55 and 54 respectively. Ellsbury sped out in front with 28 steals. Then Ichiro had 26 and JuanBourn tied for 24. (BTW, JuanBourn is officially the best name for a Hispanic family’s first son.) On the pitching side of things, Edinson Volquez led with Ks at 96, then Sabathia at 87 and Beckettcum at 83. (Harang at 82!) Webb had 11 wins and Cliff Lee had 10. Finally, K-Rod blew away the rest of the closers with 26 saves. Then Sherrill 21 and the BrianWoodbon triumvirate (Word of the Day) each had 18.

Awesome, Grey, you picked a random day of the season and compiled stats. What did everyone do on August 3rd of 1983? Actually, it’s not a random day. June 10th is approximately 67 games into the season. From today until the end of the 2008 season, guess how many games are left? The blind man picked up the hammer and saw. Now to say hitters and pitchers will do the same in the last 67 games as they did in the first 67 is obviously false. Some players are/were injured; some players always hit/pitch better in the 1st/2nd half and some players will sit after their club clinches/is eliminated. But I don’t think this makes my argument false as much as it reinforces the dire circumstances we are facing as fantasy baseball team owners. It’s now or never, people!

It’s time to start making some hard choices. Albert Pujols sure does dress like a world-class hitter, but if you need steals and saves, he’s not helping you. Though Lidge and Brian Roberts might. The inverse is also true, if you have Lidge, Marte, Broxton and Gregg, trade two of them for a part that could help. Most pitchers will see about 14 to 16 starts from now until the end. Most closers will be lucky to tag 17 saves onto their totals. The best hitters will be lucky to get 40/15/45 and 15 steals.  Trade deadlines are going to be right around the corner. Once trade deadlines pass, you’ll be left with nothing, but free agent pickups. In deep leagues, this can spell doom. (Dee oh oh em, by the way.) When your trade deadline passes, how can you make up ground in saves if you don’t have the closers? Only so many new closers will comes into the league in September. Where are you getting steals from in September? Home runs? You need to make moves now. If no one will give the parts you need, you may have to overpay. It’s not a crime to trade Pujols for Krispie, Marte and Dye if it gets you the championship. It’s crime to get a ten in average and a one in Ks, if it costs you your league. Leave nothing on the table. I want everyone who is reading this to win their league. You can’t win your league because you held onto Lidge when he could’ve got you a necessary piece and the title. It’s now or never, people! Make it count.

  1. Steve says:

    Follow from last comment in previous post (is in Forums too).

    My Howard, Rios and Mariano for his Kinsler, Vlad and B Wilson? Tex from Util to 1B etc. Would mean making Bruce my starting CF tho…

  2. Can you transcribe the article above into retard for me? That way I can post in on the message board in my league and the mouthbreathers there can understand it. Seriously.

    There is a dude in my league pleading desperately for SBs and runs and he is the far and away leader in HRs and most other offensive stats. I offer him Ellsbury/Pierzynski for McCann….the offer languishes for about 5 days and then ‘reject’ with no counter offer. He must think that if he gets to some magical HR number that he will be automaticallly awarded the league title, other than that, consider me baffled.

  3. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Steve: This trade is better… though you don’t want Bruce in your starting lineup right now. Bench, sure.

    He’s clearly got a bone on for Rivera, and you should exploit that more fully.

    re: Now or never — I am giving Chris Davis one week before I make the Pena/Marte swap. Someone on my rancid bench better heat up and fast. YOU HEAR ME, FRENCHY??!

  4. johnson says:

    who to pick up- krispie, frenchy, or tulo? sounds like a 50’s greaser gang ala the fonze. so hardcore.
    @jbone- dude’s a fool if he needs steals so bad. but ellsbury has had a shitty month, your selling him low right now.

  5. scott says:

    Do I do M. Bradley, Greinke and C. Guillen for J. Rollins or is that too much? I’m good across all offensive categories and need pitching but Rollins seems too good to pass up for these 2nd & 3rd tier talents.

  6. Denys says:

    You can trade… or you can pick up Frenchy off the waivers :)

  7. RT says:

    Jermaine Dye for Chipper Jones?

    I get Dye. I have Atkins at 1B so I could slide him over… My 1B would become a rotation of Davis/Kotchman/Thames and my OF would be Dye/Hamilton/McLouth/Victorino.


  8. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @johnson: If you need an SS then Tulo; otherwise, I like Krispie, who has the highest upside.

    @scott: Yeah, I’d do that. Rollins is by far the best player in the trade and it’s never a bad idea to trade quantity for quality.

    @RT: You can do better for Chipper. I’d go after a different OF; maybe Quentin, Beltran, Corey Hart, that tier.

    Of course, this is without knowing specifics of teams in your league; as we all know, and especially at this point in the season, a lot has to do with opponent need, filling holes, etc.

  9. RT says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins:
    The guy I am thinking of dealing to has had a stiffy for Chipper all season. He has Beltran and Dye. We’ve been talking Lackey, but I want a bat.

  10. BSA says:

    Everyone have their tickets for the Myeroller Coaster:
    “Brett Myers, SP PHI
    News: The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that SP Brett Myers will return to the Phillies rotation on July 23 against the Mets at Shea Stadium. Myers’ next minor-league start will be Friday in Class A.”

  11. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @RT: Ask for Beltran. Sweeten as necessary.

    @BSA: I’m wondering the same thing about Cueto v. Mets.

  12. RT says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins:
    Straight up… Hmm…. Would be the most need-for-need deal our league has ever seen. I won’t sweeten by much though. Our league is tres-deep so there is nothing in the WW/FA pool.

  13. BSA says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins:
    As you like to say, “the correction.” Yet he would have to be lights out to bring him back to his average. Which is why I feel stuck. Its gonna suck if he is lights out – 7+IP, 10Ks, 2 BB, 0 HA

  14. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Answered in forum.

    @J-Bone: Maybe he doesn’t value Ellsbury’s speed, maybe he hasn’t been near a computer, maybe he overvalues McCann — Either way, he’s a douce.

    @johnson: Tulo, Krispie, Frenchy. I agree with the Baron though, depends on need.

    @scott: I’d take Rollins there. That’s one of those, “A lot of I don’t want thems for one “I’d really want them.”

    @RT: Beltran would be fair.

  15. RT says:

    Fair yes, but would he be an upgrade? Or is it just a wash?
    I’m losing OBP which I need, but gaining SB, which I also need.
    An OF also gives me a little more lineup flexibility and I am banking on a big Mets second half.

  16. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:

    I’ve been offered Dye and Michael Young for Fielder. I need a SS in a bad way, but I also need power numbers. My gut says no, but my needs say yes. Thoughts?

  17. Grey

    Grey says:

    @RT: Beltran is in the middle of a hot Mets lineup. I also think they’re going to be good in the 2nd half, as I said in yesterday’s post when speaking on Beltran, “My placement of so many Mets in the top 30 shows I obviously think they’re going to continue their winning ways. I’m not exactly a fan of Willie Randolph, but it’s a shame that Manual will get credit for the Mets’ resurgence. They are just playing how they should’ve been the whole time, which, in this case, is very good.”

    I’d want Beltran for Chipper, but you know your OBP situation the best.

  18. RT says:

    Ok. Thanks!

  19. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @RT: Also, don’t forget, Chipper’s value can go south pronto if/when he’s hobbled for good.

    @IowaCubs: Listen to gut. As you can tell, I’m not a Dye fan. I think you’re better off offering something less for Young, or getting something more for Fielder.

    Besides, when’s the last time your needs were right? Listening to your needs leads you to wake up pantless next to a transexual hooker in the back of a flat-bed truck, heading on a bumpy road to parts unknown.

    No? Just me?

  20. BSA says:

    Hey Iowa,
    I sent another line in the water. The guy with Pujols also has Reyes so I offered Paps ,a replacement shortstop (tulo), and an outfielder. I have markakis, grandy, pence, and krispie.
    We’ll see. If he bites on the offer, are there any outfielders I should consider as untouchable if included with Paps?

  21. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:

    @BSA: If I owned Reyes, I wouldn’t want less than Papelbon and Granderson, though if I owned Reyes, I wouldn’t be trading him.

  22. JR says:

    @Baron, re: Needs

    Hilarious. You sound like some kind of demented, whiskey-swilling psychoanalyst…

  23. Nick says:

    Is Aubrey Huff worth more than CoJack? Huff was just dropped to Waivers. Also what do you think of Quentin/CoJack for Atkins? I tried Dye/CoJack but that was rejected, I don’t think I will ever get a trade through anytime soon with these people in my league!

  24. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Nick: Why trade Quentin for Atkins? Is this a positional-needs thing? CoJack and Huff are frick and frack as far as I’m concerned.*

    @JR: Sadly, that describes my psychoanalyst.

    *i.e. interchangeable

  25. Joe says:

    I have a big need at SS with Aviles, a moderate need at CL and have Markakis, Hart, Rios in the OF, and Kouz and Davis to play at Util and Matsui if he comes back, if i trade Quentin.

    Should i deal Quentin for Tulo and Jenks/Sherrill?

  26. Joe says:


    Huff and CoJack is pretty much a wash as BVV adhered to.

    Personally, i’d do the Q/CoJack for Atkins deal, and pick up Huff. I think Atkins is almost certain to be very good in the 2nd half, i’m less sure about Q keeping it up.

  27. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Joe: This seems solid, though I’d wait till Tulo is actually back on the playing field before making a move.

    Def. go for Jenks over Sherrill. Sherrill might be traded to a contender, thus losing his closer’s job.

  28. BSA says:

    Hey Welcome back Brett Myers. As a welcome back gift we have decided to throw you into Shea Stadium as the Mets are heating up and Johan is your opposing pitcher. Your return ticket to the minors will be found in your locker after you get out of the shower. The bus leaves for Lehigh Valley when they announce last call for alcohol in the 7th inning.

  29. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BSA: hehe

  30. Joe says:

    I just posted in my team thread on the forums, Grey, Baron and all check in and shoot me some suggestions please!!

  31. BigFatHippo says:

    Hey guys

    Chipper and Broxton for Miggy, I get Miggy.

    Am I offering enough? He’s jonesing for Broxton.

  32. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Joe: I answered in the forums.

    @BigFatHippo: Good trade for you. I think you’re offering plenty.

  33. Nick says:

    I tried trading CoJack/Dye for Atkins and the team rejected…now I proposed CoJack/Quentin for Atkins but I can’t see him accepting that trade. Moving on from my 1B (I’m going to hope Ortiz can pull through in the 2nd half) I need a 2B. I currently have Kendrick (dropped Escobar). I need all categories on offense (most importantly average) and I have 5 OF’s so I need to trade 1 or 2 of them and Kendrick/CoJack for a solid 2B. Who should I go for at 2B when I have Burrell/Dye/Quentin/Kendrick/CoJack available to trade? I need realistic trades since this league rejects every trade I propose.

  34. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Nick: At the risk of sounding like BJ Upton’s girlfriend, I say go after BJ Upton. You could/should be able to get him for Quentin or Quentin +. His value is down thanks to the low HRs, but that could/should improve second half. You’re not going to get Kinsler, or Utley; BJ’s the most talented available 2Bman available.

    If you really don’t like BJ, you could try Brandon Phillips or Uggla. But if you chase Uggla over Upton, you will be sorry.

    Also: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but don’t count on Ortiz. This injury could linger and linger and as long as the Sox are in or near first, there’s no reason to rush Papi back. I’d investigate at least another stop-gap measure at first: Maybe Chris Davis, or Pena, or Mike Jacons or, if you’re feeling charitable, Konerko.

    @BigFatHippo: When I say “Boo,” you say “Yah!”

    Boo! Yah!
    Boo! Yah!
    Boo! Yah!*

    *Translation: Good trade.

  35. Dim says:

    The old backup 1b dilemma…

    CJack or LaRoach?

  36. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Dim: Depends your stat needs. HRs/RBI — LaRoche, Average/runs — CJ.

  37. Nick says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: unfortunately uggla & upton are on a team in which the owner NEVER checks his team. Brandon Phillips will be hard to get but I will make an offer. This is an 8-team league so Chris Davis/Konerko/Jacobs will not do it for me…

  38. Steve says:

    @Grey: How about taking Rios and Rivera out of it so that its just Howard for Kinsler and Vlad? He also has Victorino…

  39. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: That’s a great trade if he’ll do it.

  40. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Nick: It sucks when certain players go into the deep-freeze simply because owners stop caring. That guy should get booted from the league next year.

  41. Steve says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: I hear that. The only thing worse is when they suddenly emerge from hibernation and give up the player (usually for nothing) you wanted, but thought it wasn’t worth asking for cos they never check their team.

  42. James says:

    Grey- I’m only ahead by 5 steals and I have Lidge, Rivera, and Marte plus some other junk. I’m down by 25ish steals… think It’s worth giving up one of those guys and a surplus power hitter to trade for some steals? I could maybe get Ichiro or Ellsbury.

  43. BKK says:

    @Steve: I’d offer it to him anyway. Maybe your the guy who gets lucky from his long winter hibernation. You can still offer the Philips owner the same trade and accept whoever bites (hopefully) first. I offered the absent owner a trade in my league and he accepted the next day. Stranger things have happened.

  44. Grey

    Grey says:

    @James: I’d trade any of those closers for Ellsbury. Marte (as proven by Sherrill iin the first half) could have more saves than either of the two bigger names, so I wouldn’t worry about losing Rivera or Lidge.

  45. Steve says:

    @BKK: Think it is Nick chasing Phillips. coincidentally, I have offered Howard to a hibernating owner for Braun + Rollins. Hopefully he checks his team soon – like he did a couple of weeks ago when he traded BJ to the guy in first for Cliff Lee…

  46. Steve says:

    At the risk of talking to myself, I’m getting sick of getting shitty trade offers and I need to vent.

    Apart from (his) Tex for (my) Crawford (and even I instigated that one), I haven’t received one that I’ve even had to think seriously about. The latest? S Drew + Jenks for Tex.

    It might be Now or Never, but that’s still bullshit.

  47. RT says:

    Thought you might find this interesting….

    The Rangers have decided to move Hank Blalock back to third base, the Dallas Morning News reports. So much for that experiment. Obviously, Chris Davis will get to remain the Rangers’ first baseman with this news. Ramon Vazquez apparently will head back to the bench, assuming that Blalock can stay healthy for any length of time. Blalock, on the DL after wrist surgery, is expected back from the DL this weekend.

    Bring on the projected 15 Donks!!!

  48. Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Steve: That is bullshit. I concur.

  49. Steve says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Guy doesn’t even have Drew as his regular SS. Told him if he thought Drew was that good he should be starting him…

  50. BigFatHippo says:




    I started it out low, as in Low-ney, just to see if he’s a sucker. Who knows, he only has 45 saves, me- 88. Nobody in our league trades closers but me, I’ve traded Nathan, Soria and Morrow and acquired primo talent and still lead in saves thanks to K Rod and numerous FA adds.

    If he declines I’ll throw Chipper and Broxton.

  51. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BigFatHippo: Yeah, moving closers is one of the easiest ways to beat people who don’t know what they are doing.

  52. BigFatHippo says:

    Should I drop Escobar for Wigginton?

    Everybody wanted Escobar the first 2 months but wouldn’t offer enough, now nobody wants him.

    Wigginton seems to heat up after the break and looks like he’ll play enough.

  53. BSA says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: See I told you Cueto would come out smoking because I benched him. Only two innings in and 5 Ks. Damn you Cueto.

  54. RT says:


  55. BigFatHippo says:


    They can have him. Just one less schmohawk for the Redbirds to trade for.

  56. BSA says:

    @BSA: Now I can sleep, Cueto shit the bed in the fifth, while the parents were already cleaning up after Johan’s mess in the 4th.
    Good thing the bench is made of wood, easier to clean.

  57. BKK says:

    @Steve: oops, got the threads mixed up…tangled as it were

  58. Steve says:

    @BKK: Sound advice nonetheless!

  59. Zebo says:

    @everyone: Cordero gave me a big present for the start of the stretch drive, ERA of 40 and WHIP of 60 for the night. This is as bad an omen as any.

  60. Frank Rizzo says:

    Best 2nd half 3b?


    So many choices.

  61. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Zebo: I see a 108.00 and 18.00. Either way I just traded him in one league for Ellsbury. Yee-haw!

    @Frank Rizzo: Lowell, Encarnacion, Glaus.

  62. Steve says:

    Rios or McLouth for the second half? Or is it a wash?

  63. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Never thought I’d say this but I kinda want McLouth. I could see it going either way so I’d be hesitate about doing the move.

    ***BTW, take followups to the newest post. Thanks.

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