It’s trendy to be trendy and follow your nose like Toucan Sam.  Unfortunately, there are no Fruit Loops here, only Holds.  Holds with a silver lining of saves that helps everyone.  For now though, it’s all about the holds.  It’s only a dozen games into the season and it’s never too early to turn a side eye to what’s going on with the key bullpen pieces around the league.  These guys are mostly for holds only leagues, but the elite of the elite are the rosterable guys that should be universally owned.   So, for those that are new to the Bullpen Report, it goes a little like this…  I focus on relievers that are pitching in high leverage situations, games with the lead, inherited runners and the inherited runners they allow to score.   Those more or less correlate to the stat we are chasing, and no it’s not that white dragon.  It’s the hold.  Team situations, team success, and the players ability in those situations all dictate that stat.  It’s no coincidence that teams with better teams usually have more save chances, it just happens.  So have a gander at some trendy type stats that have happened in the games so far.  Be aware that stats this early are misleading like a Polish GPS, so be aware and don’t go for the first car you see when your hitchhiking your way through the holds life.

  • Minus the cult following, and the team is super over-achieving… take a look at re-tread of a re-tread Jim Johnson.  Guy gets signed as a veteran-type signing in Atlanta and is straight killing it right now.  Do I think it will last?  Prolly not.  But I ask you this: what has a better chance of happening?  Jason Grilli stays healthy for a whole year or you completely download the entire Ray Parker Jr. music collection… including his collabo’s?  There isn’t a chance in hell that Grilli stays on the bump as a closer for 60-plus innings.  If you’re in the market for save speculation and hold garnering, Jimmy is a good place to be.
  • The Mariners bullpen is turning into Padres North.  They are churning out useful arm after useful arm.  Their bullpen is just deep like the mind of Minolta deep.  Go peep their depth chart.  Show me one non-useful guy out of this group in Holds leagues: Yoervis Medina, Charlie Furbush, Danny Farquhar, or Carson Smith. For todays’ exercise, let’s focus on the lesser know of the four, Carson Smith.  Remember a couple weeks ago when I spoke about straight relievers that have never started a game and are being B-lined to the majors?  Well here he is.  Already has seen three games with team in the lead, with five inherited runners.  For those not in the know, that means the manager is trusting him with his daughter to prom… already.  Oh, and by the way, he has a K rate over 12 in the early going, so maybe invest in Carson on the Daily.
  • If you are holding out hope for some Minnesota reliever giving you something, do me a favor, log into your team right now, find him, and then drop him.   That concludes my discussion of the Twins bullpen right now. No payers referenced, no should I drop/add this guy… just drop.  Just for further reference, just in case my words don’t get through your helmet you wear for safety, the Colorado Rockies have 18 save opportunities…
  • Let’s stay in the land of Rocky Mountain Oysters, shall we?  The Rockies are pacing the league in Holds (12), Save opps (18) and relief appearances ahead (23).  All this with a closer change and a whole lotta guys that sorta blah based on preseason rankings.  Adam Ottavino is the new closer for now, so let’s eliminate him from the discussion.  They are being paced by their effective pair of Boone Logan and Christian Friedrich.  Having a dual pair of lefties is always a great thing to have when they aren’t shoes.  I really like what I am seeing out of Friedrich more so than from Logan right now.  He is seeing the tougher situations and is coming out fairly decent considering he was a starter before this year.  Look for him to be the co-A guy for lefties in the upcoming weeks.

 

Player Holds/BS Appearances with Lead In. Runners/IR Scored
Jim Johnson 3/0 4 2/0
Boone Logan 3/0 4 0/0
Carlos Torres 3/0 4 2/0
Luis Avilan 3/0 3 4/0
Jerry Blevins 3/0 3 3/0
Jared Hughes 3/0 3 3/1
Keone Kela 2/0 4 0/0
Junichi Tazawa 2/0 4 0/0
Al Alburquerque 2/0 3 2/0
Pedro Baez 2/0 3 1/0
Brett Cecil 2/1 3 3/3
Christian Friedrich 2/0 3 3/2
Kevin Jepsen 2/0 3 0/0
Carson Smith 2/1 3 5/1
Zach Duke 2/0 2 0/0
Danny Farquhar 2/0 2 2/0
Seth Maness 2/0 2 1/0
Darren O’Day 2/0 2 1/1
Roberto Osuna 2/0 2 4/0
Sergio Romo 2/0 2 3/3
Pat Neshek 2/0 2 0/0
  1. Mark says:
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    who is your guy in pittsburgh? caminero, watson, hughes? others?

    This was really good

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Mark: Thanks. Watson, Hughes

  2. JVanSlyke says:
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    This is a really useful article as always. Should I own Carson Daly Smith over Ken Giles or any of the others below?

    Current bullpen
    Aroldis
    Allen
    Osuna
    Castro
    Watson
    Giles

    Lost Benoit and box ether in the kimbrel trade so hoping one of the above holds guys eventually closes.

    • Smokey

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      @JVanSlyke:Thanks.. I would Hold and wait for Giles to snap out of it. Give him 5 more appearances then dump for a hot BP guy.

  3. Scott says:
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    Ooh, Carson Smith sounds tasty!

    • Smokey

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      @Scott: I think he has a nougat center

  4. CL says:
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    Added Yimi Garcia and Mike Dunn in the past 48 hours. Slim pickings. You like Friedrich over either of them?

    • CL says:
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      @CL: Or Carson Smith. This is just a saves league.

    • Smokey

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      @CL: Love Yimi, liked him when he was closing in the minors last year, don’t think Mattingly is smart enough to do anything productive with him. Both of them over Friedrich right now. In 2 weeks may sing different tune.

  5. Steve says:
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    I have Peralta with his stained neck and Hatcher breathing down his neck. Would you replace him with Logan or Dunn…Osuna?

    Outside chance Cecil becomes available as well but not likely.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Steve: Dunn…. I wouldn’t want anyone from the Dodger pen

  6. dizzystpizzy says:
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    Thanks for the warning re: Polish GPS.

    Who do you like as heir if Cishek continues struggling in Miami? Dunn?

    And for save speculations who do like best: Dunn (or other MIA dude?), Danny Farq, Watson?

    • Smokey

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      @dizzystpizzy: It’s Dunn for me. Farq/Dunn equal amount of love then Watson down the pike

  7. Ralph Lifshitz

    Ralph Lifshitz says:
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    Did you ever find Bugs Bunny Attractive when he put on a dress and played a girl bunny?

      • Pager24 says:
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        @J-FOH: HA! seriously old cartoons were the best! drinking, smoking, sexism, blatant intolerance, and outright racism! Kids these days are too pampered- I mean we turned out alright despite it right? i mean besides being a chain smoking alcoholic with blatant intolerance and mild sexism. i say the world is better for it HA

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Pager24: right? where are these kids jokes going to come from?

    • Scott says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: I always find Bugs Bunny attractive.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Scott: Seriously Scottie Too Hottie

    • I don't want to brag, but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: finally figured out where that came from, (without google), Wayne’s World! excellent! watched that movie so many times when it came out it’s embarrassing.

  8. Zeus says:
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    I don’t play in holds leagues though I wish I did. If you’re speculating on the Seattle Pittsburgh and possibly Cleveland bullpens who would you pick up in a 15 team mixed. Desperately need saves and can probably pick up two this weekend when waivers run.

    • Smokey

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      @Zeus: Farquhar, Watson and Bryan Shaw

  9. Pundeck says:
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    I need to drop one of this guys. Please advise.

    Evan Marshall
    Ken Giles
    Jordan Walden

    Thanks!

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Pundeck: Marshall. Giles has way too much promise to send packing. Like I said above give him 5-7 more appearances and then see where he is.

  10. Racehorse says:
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    Smokey

    16 team dynasty league with SV and Holds….

    Do I drop Aaron Barrett for Carson Smith?
    (By the way, I already have Farquhar – and Miguel Castro)

    The rest of my bully is solid: Holland, Box, Jansen-DL

    Thanks!

    • CL says:
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      @Racehorse: I picked up Castro last week and Carson today. 12 team Dynasty Saves / Holds league as well. Especially with 16 teams. No brainer.

      • Racehorse says:
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        @CL: the only thing I’m pondering is missing the chance of having a piece of the Nats bullpen on what supposed to be a good Nats team.

        And while the Nats starters are awesome and should go deep into games, Barrett is now 2nd on some depth charts — I don’t expect Barrett to end up as closer if Storen fails… I can see them making a mid season deal for a closer — but I am thinking Barrett should pitch important innings from here on out…

        Anyway, I’m probably over thinking all this.

        • CL says:
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          @Racehorse: as Smokey says, fog in DC. I can’t control any closer situation, but I can control dudes on my team with high K rates and nice ratios. Especially in dynasty.

    • Smokey

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      @Racehorse: Kinda lateral move. I prefer Barret long term and Stammen just went on DL so it’s even foggier their for the Nats.

      • Racehorse says:
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        @Smokey: see above….

        But hey, no prob, thanks for the reinforcement ~

        Is it just me when I say that I luv talking bullpens and holds ?!?!

        • Smokey

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          @Racehorse: ummm join the club. You talk about it I write 100 words a week on it.

  11. Double P says:
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    If Joe Nathan returns from the DL, which one of these relievers do I drop, or do I drop Nathan?

    Bryan Shaw
    Pedro Baez
    Joaquin Benoit
    Pedro Strop
    Brad Ziegler

    Thanks.

    • I don't want to brag, but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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      @Double P: depends on league settings and needs maybe. nathan might go back to closing, so if you would take saves over holds i’d keep him. one of ziegler or baez is likely drop here. LAD situation is hard as hell to even read. Ziegler is no longer late inning guy though and has awful K rates. drop ziegler when that happens.

    • Smokey

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      @Double P: Baez first to go

  12. GhostTownSteve says:
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    Grey seems to thing Dunn is the leading cuff in Miami. You lean him or Ramos?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @GhostTownSteve: Im on the fence as well, Ramos seems like the logical choice but if memory serves me well Dunn is about equal vs. lefties and righties

      • Smokey

        Smokey says:
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        @J-FOH: Fairly neutral, though RH hit twice as many HR’s ion only 40 more plate appearances. 16-8

    • Smokey

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      @GhostTownSteve: It’s Dunn for me as well. The usage of Ramos suggests it. 3 7th inning appearances, 1 6th and a 9th in a loss.

  13. WalleyWorld says:
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    In a very deep dynasty league uses holds and saves. Current relievers are Jeurys Familia, Dom Leone, Keone Kela, Brandon Maurer, Tony Cingrani, and Tanner Scheppers. Was really counting on holds from Maurer and Leone. Do you see them getting to pitch in higher leverage situations down the road or any time soon? Best to just sit tight and hold onto them for now? Thanks for any advise and great article. Keep em coming.

    • Smokey

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      @WalleyWorld: Leone is buried there, cut bait for a better late inning guy. Maurer is in same boat and needs an injury to move up. If better options are there I would persue

  14. Steve Stevenson says:
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    10-tm 11×7 (Hld and NetSV are RP cats) H2H, 19 moves left this year, my pen has some warts. I’ve done well carrying 3-4 closers and 2-3 MR.

    Current RP:
    Cishek
    Boxberger
    Cecil
    J. Smith
    Soria
    McGee (DL)

    Available:
    Ottavino
    Doolittle
    Castro
    Osuna
    Walden
    Farquhar
    Any other non-obvious names on your list above.

    So any move I make has to be long-term. It’s 1 win/cat. Make a move, or hang tight for a couple weeks? My guess is by the end of this week Ottavino’s taken but the rest are still available.

    • Smokey

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      @Steve Stevenson: limited moves are tough because you have some decent guys. I would hold its a long season dont over rosterbate you will chaff.

  15. Pager24 says:
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    hey smokey got a closer question for ya.

    I’ve been fortunate than a couple of my handcuffs have been named closer and have grabbed several off waivers. I feel I have a couple too many relievers right now- wondering what to do

    My team currently: Allen, Boxberger, Clippard, Otto, Soria, Farq
    (I just traded Miller and Iwakuma for Lester)

    Available: Cecil, Dunn, Watson

    I was wondering if you though any of the available guys were better than what i have ROS or do I just drop say Farq and stream? My pitching is pretty sold but I do love me some SON! HA

    Thanks!

    • Pager24 says:
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      @Pager24: oh i forgot to mention tough trade environment right now. My league mates are looking for more sure things rather than speculation in most trades- so I don’t think i’ll get much value for those guys in a trade unless they have lasting success

      Thanks

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Pager24: your good as you stand now

  16. dem ribbies says:
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    Drop Cishek for Ottovino?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @dem ribbies: Who are your other closers, as you drafted Cishek as a RP 1 or 2. Otta needs to be owned, no other droppable options?

      • dem ribbies says:
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        @Smokey: Holland and Grilli

        • dem ribbies says:
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          @dem ribbies: Could drop Dan Norris and roster 4 RP (only 3 can start) until the dust settles in Mia

          • Smokey

            Smokey says:
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            @dem ribbies: yea dump Norris

  17. Nightpandas says:
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    Ajax or Revere? Obp

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Nightpandas: Yuck…Revere if he gets back in the lead off spot. Jackson if you die of dysentery twice. Ill take the guy with more SB appeal..Revere

    • I don't want to brag, but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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      @Nightpandas: wait for the other ajax (also at SEA) he’ll make you forget about those dysentery deaths (something that actually haunts my nightmares, since, see above), but of course by that time you’ll be quite zombiefied.

  18. duder says:
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    Currently running Cingrani, Montero, Delgado, and Treinen. Drop any of them for Freidrich? Don’t have holds as a category but it’s a deep league and we start a ton of relievers.

    • Smokey

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      @duder: Hold for now, Treinen would be first to for me, see how his role changes with Stammen on DL

  19. JFK says:
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    Great notes!
    With (3) SP, (3) RP & (3) P slots in a 12-team 7×7 H2H league with saves and holds as two cats, I’ve got the following:
    Cishek / Gregerson / Ottavino / O’Day / Jim Johnson / Mujica

    With Uehara back in the 9th and Tazawa in the 8th, would you drop Mujica for Dunn, Logan, Shaw or Fien for holds? Which two do you like best for holds + spec saves?
    Thanks!

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @JFK: Dunn

      • JFK says:
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        @Smokey: Thanks!
        Rough outing for Dunn today, but assuming it’s just a hiccup.

        Do you see Hochevar and/or Cory Rasmus providing solid help w/ratios from the SP-eligible slot upon their return, or better to look at Delgado, Cingrani, or Friedrich?

        • JFK says:
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          @JFK: Another interesting name: Daniel Hudson, who’s pitching in relief after two TJ’s – he came on for the hold in the 8th inning tonight against the Giants. Looks like Delgado may have been unavailable after pitching back-to-back nights, but with their rotation in flux is there a chance that Delgado becomes a starter again and Hudson gets the 8th in light of Marshall’s recent struggles?

          • Smokey

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            @JFK: Forgot about Huddy. Delgado is a starter long term or it looks that way to me. I could see Hudson getting some hogh leverage situations as they get good use out of his arm while building up strength from injury

        • Smokey

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          @JFK: KC bullpen is stellar so anyone is a decent flyer, Rasmus is a deep league play

          • JFK says:
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            @Smokey: Thanks for the follow-ups!
            I ended up dropping Mujica for Scheppers – velocity was good, but pitch selection and location were a bit meh. Coming off the DL, I’m guessing he was just testing the arm against major league bats (after K-ing his way through the minors in rehab), so not too concerned and thinking he settles into the 8th for the foreseeable future.

            Picked up Siegrist in the hopes he re-gains his 2013 form – looks good so far, and picked up a random save tonight. Took him for holds, though, so what are your thoughts on how the St. Louis ‘pen shakes out? I expect Rosenthal to capably hold the 9th, and Walden looks solid in the 8th; will Siegrist get enough action to move in front of Maness/Choate/Belisle, who have all been pitching extremely well? Or do you still prefer Dunn?

  20. Yadier Damn Mind says:
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    Rank these 3 as if Kenley was healthy please.

    Koi Uehara
    Huston Street
    Kenley Jansen

    Thanks in advance

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Yadier Damn Mind: Intially when he comes back Street Kenley Uehara. Soon there after it will be Kenley Street Uehara

  21. Jon says:
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    Can you recommend some NL holds guys who might have SP eligibility? Randall Delgado is one I can think of. Looking for more like him.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Jon: Cingrani, Brad Hand, Carlos Villanueva, Rafael Montero

      • I don't want to brag, but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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        @Smokey: CIN late bullpen so awful it won’t take much for anybody to actually grab the 8th. look for cingrani if/when he starts having good innings. he had a shot a few days ago and wasn’t good.

  22. SteveNZ says:
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    Gotta drop either R Delgado or Cingrani to throw Scheppers into an SP slot. Has to be Delgado, right?

    • Smokey

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      @SteveNZ: Yes

      • JFK says:
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        @Smokey: What are your thoughts on Scheppers’ role when he gets back? Does he move ahead of Tolleson to take the 8th?
        Thanks!

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @JFK: spine is crawling hoping this is NOT the case. i have kela/tolleson or both in a few deep leagues and dropped scheppers a few days ago. i could get him back later, but dude has such an awful K rate.

        • Smokey

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          @JFK: gotta prove he’s healthy and effective for him to jump Tolleson

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Smokey: that’s good, rotoworld and others make it sound like they’ll just give him set up duties before that happens. i don’t mind owning him over tolleson (it’s not like people are stashing scheppers hardly anywhere) if he’s producing.

  23. Steve says:
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    Dunn lit up tonight. Damn.

    • Smokey

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      @Steve: ehh it sucks but it happens. Its like he heard us giving him props

  24. los locos says:
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    My closers if you can rank them..

    A Miller
    B Boxberger
    S Cishek
    Ottovino

    I gotta dump two of them??? Make room for starters..

    • Smokey

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      @los locos: miller cishek Ottavino Box

  25. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    right after you say this fien gets 2 str holds in 2 days. and today when they for some reason tried to put duensing deeper into the game than fien, and duensing got blown up, which is nice cause i don’t need any reason for them to keep doing that.

    • Smokey

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      @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: yea such is life I write this a day or two ahead and update. Figures.

  26. LadyScorpio says:
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    VERY good article! Very informative, which is what I like and need. Only female competing in a 10 team 6×6 roto league and Holds is 1 of our categories. 2 of the guys I grabbed for Holds, Ottavino and Peralta are ironically now closers. As I write this, Reed & Casilla have decimated my team’s ERA & WHIP. Thankfully, I have Kimbrel and Kenley will be returning soon. Still, I was NEVER sold on Reed but kept him anyway. Should I hold him or drop him for a SP or RP?

    My team….
    SPs – Iwakuma, Shields, Bauer, Greene, Lynn, & Martinez
    RPs- Kimbrel, Ottavino, Johnson, Peralta, Reed, Casilla & Kenley (DL)

    Please advise. Thanks!

    • Smokey

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      @LadyScorpio: i would try trading him first to see if someone is desperate for saves, but in a 10 teamer you need to grab best guys for stat purposes so a holds guy would make sense more when Kenley comes back until then take you lumps and get the saves then switch to holds later

  27. Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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    have been rotating this roster spot in roto league with K/BB/ OBPA/K per 9 and net saves and holds/along with holds and saves as separate cats as well. best of these (or just keep streaming vulture guys and batty calls). tolleson/shaw/yoervis/tazawa/kela? Kela ain’t doing bad, and is getting innings, but really low K rate so far. I though it could be the opposite, great K rate but wild or something like that. redraft here, so it almost can’t be Kela i suppose.

    • Smokey

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      @Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey: all good secondary options but based on your startegy it would depend on matchup for the days or week. Tazawa, Kela Shaw and Tolleson seem to be best

  28. Harry Hardenberg says:
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    hey smokey

    ‘member when i said you could safe ignore juan jaime last week, and you ignored me?

    cust kayin’

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Harry Hardenberg: I actually looked back and I totally missed your comment sorry kid, Yea good call based on what I saw from him thought he had a place there

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Smokey: s.simmons likely long term (like real long, 5 months and up)?

        • Harry Hardenberg says:
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          @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: shae simmons had tommy john, so way longer than that

          unfortunately old world atlanta probably wont go away from grilli/johnson for awhile

          i like cunniff a lot though

          • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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            @Harry Hardenberg: i must’ve misread when he had that. yep, way off, add like 8-10 months more.

  29. Cafuné

    Maxi says:
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    hey smokey, could you get back to me on fantasy soccer? wrote a comment on the forward rankings, appreciate it ;)

    also, who do you like more for potential holds/saves, marshall or yimi yahn garcia?

    • Smokey

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      @Maxi: Marshall. Coming up on soccer kid. Gotta work for the man first.

  30. LT Murray IV

    Tehol Beddict says:
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    Are you or are you not The Lord of Light?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Tehol Beddict: I’m the constable of chicanery

  31. OldMilwaukeePounders says:
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    Smokey, awesome piece on the holds, bro. I’ve got a quick question for you. In my roto 5×6 holds league my current pen is: Allen, Cishek, Storen, Wade Davis, Miller, Osuna, Castro. I am falling a bit behind in the holds race, I am wondering what your thoughts are on my using Osuna as the “swing spot” that you suggested in your holds streaming strategy. What do you think?

    My only concern comes from the seemingly wide open bullpen situation in TOR. When they are winning close games having both Osuna and Castro can mean both the H and the SV. I just don’t want to fall too far behind in holds messing with an uncertain closer committee.

    Thanks!

    • Smokey

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      @OldMilwaukeePounders: yea I would ditch Osuna as I see Cecil being the guy grabbing most. Stream for a hot player

  32. Smokey –

    Always a great informative read. Thanks for what you do on a weekly basis.

    14 team, 6×6 (ops, holds), redraft, H2H. Deep 33 man rosters. Big stakes, so everyone knows their stuff. We start 11 Pitchers: up to 6 RP weekly. Given the league settings, I like to start about 5-6 RP.

    Here’s my RP crew (and my intended use).
    A. Ottavino – closer
    AJ Ramos – holds (with eye towards closer role if Cishek falters. I read what you said on Dunn…)
    E. O’ Flaherty – holds
    K. Siegrist – holds (velocity is back to 92-93mph. could see his role expanding)
    E. Marshall – holds (with eye towards closer role if Reed falters)

    Bench:
    K. Gausman – not dropping (in case O’s put him into SP role)
    S. Doolittle (DL)

    Long winded question: Once Doolittle comes off DL in mid-May, he should slot back into a high leverage, later inning role (hopefully, Closer) and that will give me 2 Closers+ 4 Holds guys. Ideally, would like to have 3 closers. Based on his usage the first 2 weeks (small sample size notwithstanding), do you like what you see out of E. Marshall to hold him with confidence in the ARZ pen?… Delgado, Hudson have also seemed to take the ball late. Although, Marshall was called upon last night late inning after another Reed falter vs. SF and fared pretty well, pitching himself outta trouble (2 k’s) despite allowing 1 inherited runner scored.

    Available FA:: Y. Medina, S. Tolleson, K. Kela, J. Diekman, A. Albuquerque, C. Friedrich, RJ Alvarez

    Would you move on any of these guys?

    Thanks,

    • Smokey

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      @EL BURRO: thanks man. Hold for now. It’s still way early. Siegrist is a great guy to hold onto especially.

      • @Smokey:

        Thanks, Smokey. Tend to agree. Just staring at my roster too much.

        Have a good weekend.

  33. Ulysses says:
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    I’m in a holds, saves, hold+save league. I have 4 closers but no MRs. Since the bench is really small a lot of the holds guys are still on the wire.

    If you had to pick 5 top holds guys, who would you target not including Jim Johnson or Benoit.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Ulysses: Jepsen, Neshek walden farquahar and Watson in Pitt is just stating slow.

  34. Mr. Tibbs says:
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    Hey Smoke,

    Do you like Barrett more than Farq or Tazawa in a holds league ROS? Thanks in advance.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Mr. Tibbs: no. But he’s going to end the year in top 12 in holds.

  35. slimbo says:
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    What’s up smokey

    Joe smith or Carson smith droppable in a keeper saves and holds league for kela, Logan, baez,caminero or Hughes?

    • Smokey

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      @slimbo: Carson and Highes both hot in use right now so I think you could flip flop based on preference.

  36. goodfold2 says:
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    i’m really hoping this scheppers is “moving right back into set up duty” news is irresponsible since he’s simply not good enough to own anywhere before proving it (over other useful guys) but should i drop tolleson or kela the first clean 8th inning hold Scheppers gets or wait longer? I have at least one of them in many holds leagues with deep amount of RP slots.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @goodfold2: i’m guessing scheppers ain’t locked up anything. tolleson came in with two on, got a groundout and 2 K’s. Scheppers got no K’s, 2 hits, a double, 3 other fly ball outs, mostly to center. sound about right. if these weren’t dynasties i was dealing with i’d just grab him as this could hurt Kela for a while.

  37. Brett says:
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    Smokey

    Just traded k rod so have 2 questions

    1 How likely is it that boxberger can keep the job and McGee becomes a late inning lefty specialist?

    2. Who is the best speculative guy for saves but could get holds as well between medina, marshall in Arizona, Ramos in Miami and shaw in Cleveland

    • The Harrow says:
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      @Brett: mcgee has been more than LOOGY for years now, he’s been in fact a top 5 type non-closer holds late inning guy so at worst that’ll be what happens to him when healthy.

      • The Harrow says:
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        @The Harrow: shaw is probably least likely to get saves out of those, but could get most holds out of those. he’s also started year off worst of those though.

  38. Jay says:
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    I inherited a team in an 18 team (28 roster spots) keeper league (ESPN). Saves, Holds, WHIP, ERA, OBA, K’s, W

    Wondering if I should be looking at acquiring anyone. I know its early still. FA pickups are pretty tough in this league.

    My current RP’s:

    T. Clippard
    S.Doolittle
    C.Qualls
    J.Smith
    M.Dunn
    R.Betancourt
    J.Hughes

    Available in FA as of today.

    N.Martinez
    A.Barrett
    M.Thornton
    B.Brown
    Z.Duke
    C.Friedrich
    T.Hunter
    C.Furbush

    Thanks,

    Jay

    • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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      @Jay: assuming you have doolittle DL’ed and not in active slot grab barrett first. If Duke was gonna stick in the 8th with Petricka back (not likely) i’d say him over Hughes. Watch that though, as it’s still possible Duke does remain over Petricka. That’s a decent bullpen for an orphan team in an 18 teamer (i’m in 20’s myself, and just joined another one recently).

  39. goodfold2 says:
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    ok, with all the depth charts across the land giving scheppers 8th back i’ll still hold tolleson, since he’s been really really good and will still get holds. but this certainly does hurt kela. holds and k/9 here in all of them.
    drop kela for any of delgado/scheppers/w.harris/friedrich/affeldt (GD his K rate sucks)/putnam/diekman (who’s been awful, albeit with good k rate)

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @goodfold2: dropped kela for delgado, but now scheppers so awful he needs kela to come in and get him out of his mess.

  40. Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season says:
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    saves and holds. with koji back gotta drop somebody. who’s the drop
    barrett/koji/j.peralta/jepsen/castro/a.miller/mcgee (DL)?

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