At the age of 29 in the year two-zero-zero-six, Travis Hafner went 100/42/117/.308.  MVP numbers, for sure.  If you were sitting behind Hafner at a movie, you didn’t even mind that his head was blocking half the screen because the numbers were that good.  You briefly considered amending the North Dakota Wikipedia page to add Hafner above Maris.  You even tried entering Pronk into the baby name discussion with your wife.  So what happened?  Is Travis Hafner even worth considering in 2009 for fantasy?

At this point, the only advantage to owning the Project Donkey would be to strap him to a large chain and use his noggin to knock down the Excaliber in Vegas.  The 2009 fantasy schmohawk posts have been used thus far for overrated players.  Honestly, Hafner’s barely rated, let alone overrated.  But I threw the schmohawk tag on him because of how badly he Pronk’d me last year.  Not to mention, he hasn’t done well since 2006.  You’re going to clog up your Utility spot with someone who MIGHT hit 25/90/.275.  (Caps are for emphasis and those that might be reading this from across the room.)  We’re talking about someone who hasn’t hit well in two seasons.  His 2007 was crizz-ap and he was healthy.  What, you need me to stand behind you while you’re drafting and grumble under my breath while you hover the cursor over Hafner?  Cause I will do it.  Now everyone loves a good nickname as much as the next guy.  So I understand you like the nickname Pronk, but c’mon, man, don’t draft Travis Hafner.  If you do, you’ll give me an aneurysm.  You want that on your conscience?

  1. sean says:

    Is this finally the year to pass on Ortiz as well? How low do these DH/UTIL types have to fall before we consider them at all?

  2. Grey

    Grey says:

    @sean: This year I’m not drafting any UT guy.

  3. He really is someone to be watched on the waiver wire this year, but a manager in each deep league will take him and suffer. It won’t be me though.

  4. Turnip

    Turnip says:

    Recovering from shoulder surgery is a legitimate reason to prescribe roids. If his hat size goes up a notch, draft him.

  5. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Turnip: If his hat size goes up anymore, a ballcap will no longer fit his head. He’ll need to wear one of those umbrella hats.

  6. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    It’s hard to imagine anyone, except maybe Ortiz ’06, who deserves to clog up your Util all year. How else can you rejigger your lineup to play the hot hand?

    Speaking of Big Papi, in light of A-Rod, doesn’t anyone with 50+ homers in the last, oh, six or seven years just seem kinda suspect right now?

  7. john says:

    As I have returned, so must Pronk..long live the Pronk, long live the Pronk!!

  8. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Good point, and Big Papi got old real quick. Oh, and Pronk used to have a tiny head like Beetlejuice. Do the math!

    @john: Welcome back! Now see comments and post above.

  9. @sean: Ortiz is the 28th most valuable player based on Point Shares in CHONE. His ADP is 50. I’m not a fan of clogging up UTIL, but if he’s available in the 4th or 5th round, I’d take him….Hafner…bleh…but if my team was a little weak on power, I could see taking a flier on him in the 15th round or later….

  10. Note on Ortiz – Grey and I talked and we’ll be adding an additional penalty to DHs as they currently get treated like 1Bs. So I imagine Ortiz’s value close to his ADP of 50. Still would say that he’s a great late 4th round/5th round pick if you’re team is weak on power…

  11. James says:

    No structural damage found in his shoulder is all you have to know about Pronk and his mediocre stats.

  12. As a life long Tribe fan I wish Travis the best and cross my fingers for ’09, but jeebus H – the man didn’t look hurt so much as lost the last couple of seasons.
    If shoulder surgery can repair his ability to judge low & away junk, then all hail the Central Division champs.

  13. BigFatHippo says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins:@Grey: @Rudy Gamble: I have no reservations about my boy Big Ryan, he’s as legit as they come. If he was juicing he’d be hitting them out to all fields like Brady Anderson. As is, line as many Hasheem Thabeet’s as you can find at the wall and let em jump.

    Just once I’d like to see a ballplayer request that his “confidential” test be revealed to the public. Couldn’t they do that?

  14. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Terry Grant: Hehe

    @BigFatHippo: Hasheem Thabeet? Is that from the fantasy baseball team name generator?

  15. @BigFatHippo: Big Ryan? Hasheem Thabeet? I only know who that second guy is ’cause I just watched PTI like four minutes ago.

  16. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: @Baron Von Vulturewins: Doode’s 7′ 3″ tall, if he’s got mad hops he can catch moon shots.

    re:Big Ryan……..He deserves a cool nickname doesn’t he? Get on that! I got nuttin.

  17. BigFatHippo says:

    In a completely unrelated story, Inspector Clouseau has teamed with Deputy Barney Fife to investigate the Michael Phelps Bong Photo.

    Much hilarity forthcoming.

  18. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: “doesn’t anyone with 50+ homers in the last, oh, six or seven years just seem kinda suspect right now?”

    Not Ludwick, I was talking about Howard. Geez Grey, read my mind will you? You can read a Unicorn, why not a Hippo? (would insert emoticon here, but I don’t do emoticons either)

  19. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: Ha ha, yeah maybe.

    Soon to be with his brother looks like. I thought little bro gave up acting?

  20. big o says:


    chavez evokes similar emotions in this old A ‘s fan .

  21. JR says:


    I’m not even gonna check the link. My guess is Adam Jones.

  22. Grey

    Grey says:

    @big o: I can imagine.

    @JR: You’re a wise man.

  23. Tony says:

    Pronk late is fine, why not? He sucks it up like a hoover you drop him?

  24. Fman99 says:

    I got Pronked in ’08. Passed Aramis Ramirez to take him looking for a bounce back.

    Didn’t happen.

    F that guy.

  25. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:

    Why don’t you tell us how you REALLY feel, Grey!?

  26. Ashley says:

    Hi Grey, I need some advice for my keeper draft..

    My 5 keepers are Ian Kinsler, Ryan Braun, Josh Hamilton, Carlos Quentin, and Tim Lincecum. 10 team H2H league, standard settings.

    When I’m talking about the draft rounds, I’m not including the first 5 rounds since those are our keepers. So when I say 1st round, that’s actually the 6th round but it’s the 1st round we’ll be drafting new players.

    I have the #3 pick in the 1st round that I got last season for Jason Bay.

    Last night I traded Tim Lincecum and my 5th round pick for Roy Halladay and the #4 pick in the 1st round. (I hope you don’t think that’s stupid, but I think pitchers are kinda overrated and Halladay had 200 k’s and 20 wins last year).

    And I have the #8 pick. So I have the #3, #4, #8, #13 picks.

    The guy with the #1 pick is going to take Brandon Phillips.

    Don’t know who #2 is taking.

    I would like to take care of 1B, SS, 3B, and my final OF/Util before I get into pitching because there’s so much pitching available.

    Top guys available at each position..

    1B – Adrian Gonzalez, Kevin Youkilis, and Chris Davis

    SS – Alexie Ramirez, Troy Tulowitzki, and Stephen Drew

    3B – Chris Davis, Garret Atkins, and Ryan Zimmerman

    OF – Jacoby Ellsbury, Curtis Granderson, Jay Bruce, Hunter Pence, Nelson Crus (Does he have a starting job??)

    I’m planning on drafting

    #3 – Youkilis (1B)
    #4 – Ellsbury (Util)
    #8 – Alexie Ramirez (SS)
    #13 – Chris Davis (3B)

    But I’m not sure Chris Davis will be available.. I’m a believer in him, are you?

    The top pitchers available are Haren, Liriano, Beckett, Felix, Ervin Santana, Cliff Lee, Harden, and the list goes on forever.

    So can you please tell me what you think about the players I’m targetting and your advice as to the best way to get them. Some people seem to love Youkilis and some people think last year was flukey.

    Thanks Grey!

  27. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Ashley: The trade you made for Halladay is fair. Not stupid by any means.

    I really like Youuuuk, but I think Adrian Gonzalez is slightly better. It’s splitting hairs a bit, so if you really like Youuuuk, go for it. I’ll make my case anyway.

    Gonzalez’s 2009 Projections: 85/34/95/.280

    Youuuk’s 2009 Projections: 95/25/110/.295

    Gonzalez will give more power and that’s what you want from a 1st baseman. His average won’t kill you and he’s only going to be 27 this year, i.e., he’s getting better.

    Youuuk will be thirty and I don’t see his power developing that much more. Obviously his team will give him more Runs and RBIs and he’s better at average.

    Because of the power and bit of upside, I like A-Gonz slightly more.

    The rest of the choices are spot on. I do believe in C. Davis, Alexei and Ellsbury.

  28. I say the over/under on Pronk’s 2009 HR total is 19. And I take the under

  29. Ashley says:

    Ok thanks =)

    I like Adrian better as a player, but Youkilis plays in a better park and is in a better lineup… So it’s going to be a tough decision, but I have a month to figure it out.

    If Chris Davis isn’t available for my 13th pick.. Who would you pick between Atkins and Zimmerman? Huff is also out there, I had him last year but can’t say I’m a believer.

    With Braun, Hamilton, and Quentin I have plenty of power so I feel like Ellsbury would be the perfect addition.

    And I know nothing about Alexie other than the fact he hits a lot of homeruns, but is he basically Alfonso Soriano’s twin?

    I’m going to target Chris Iannetta for my catcher and if I get all the guys I’m going after, I think I should have a pretty balance offense.

    Thanks for the help! I’m sure you’ve gone over a lot of this, so I’ll go look over your previous posts.

  30. Ashley says:

    Meant to say “hits a lot of grand slams” for Alexie

  31. Grey

    Grey says:

    @DrGravitee: I’d set the over under at about 22. But, yeah, I’m not excited about him.

    @Ashley: I like Zimmerman better, but I think you might be able to wait on him a little bit. Then again, I don’t know your league’s keepers as well as you.

    He’s Soriano’s doppelganger. Looks like him, quick wrists like him and lies about his age. Separated at birth, I tell ya.

    I like Iannetta too.

  32. holt says:

    I think the Lincecum for Halladay and a pick only makes sense for this season. If you want to win your league every year then you should never downgrade a keeper.

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