Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Those were my initial thoughts regarding this Rafael Devers trade.
The Red Sox treated real baseball like a video game during the off-season, signing Alex Bregman before discussing the possibilities with Rafael Devers, a player they had recently signed for $313.5 million. I’m not saying a team should run every transaction by their third baseman, but if you’re going to sign an All-Star at your franchise player’s position, you might want to lay some groundwork within the clubhouse.
Another thought: I was surprised when that story about John Henry flying to meet with Devers in Kansas City got leaked. How does something like that become public? Probably because they wanted it to, right? Wanted to look proactive? Or create some leverage in the public eye? I dunno. But that feels like a private kind of meeting. Instead, via Sports Illustrated, everyone knew it was about to happen and later learned that Devers did not agree to play first base despite being in a barbeque-free room with chief baseball officer Craig Breslow, team president Sam Kennedy, manager Alex Cora and owner John Henry. Breslow was quoted by Jeff Passan as saying “The decision was never going to be made on a couch in an office in Kansas City.” I don’t like the couch or office parts. Makes me think they were in the visiting clubhouse. Which is not where you want to have a crucial meeting, I think. Nice restaurants don’t often have couches around the tables, is all I’m saying.
I realize that the model-based math systems get wonky when you take a guy’s defensive value away, but this franchise had David Ortiz. Shohei Ohtani won the NL MVP last year. In some ways, it’s a blessing that Devers had adapted to his fate as a non-fielder. Should help his longevity if he takes care of himself. Plus, he’s been on fire since late April, slashing .316/.441/.603 with a superb 18.8-to-16.4 strikeout-to-walk rate over 46 games. In truth, he’s never been better in the batter’s box, which is especially impressive considering we’ve got something of a dead-ball season underway with oversized seams and increased drag on the baseball.
For a relative pittance, the Giants acquired his age 28-through-36 seasons, which could be several prime-age seasons of playoff pushes. These next four years could also be the best of his career as a hitter. Aaron Judge is 33, by the way, and I know he’s barely human and therefore a poor comparison to anyone, but Devers is pretty damn talented himself. His 148 wRC+ this season is a career high.
The Giants have some risky contracts right now, but it’s hard to hate what Buster Posey is putting together. Makes sense that a smart catcher can cut through the noise and add a great baseball player who costs mostly money. Boston’s Craig Breslow seems to be guided by saving money in accordance with the models. A former player himself, he should’ve been able to see this from Devers’ perspective from jump street and build some inroads there. Easier said than done, I realize, but anyone could’ve predicted that might get complicated.
Oh, and Alex Bregman has opt-outs after each of the next two seasons. His agent is Scott Boras, which suggests he’ll use that first opt-out, even if he wants to stay in Boston. Would bring them back to the table, and he’d have new leverage. They didn’t even really need him when they signed him. They sure need him now. He’ll be 32 at the start of next season.
The only “winner” in this trade is OF James Tibbs III, a left-handed hitter who won’t have to play his home games in San Francisco. The 13th overall pick in 2024 out of Florida State, Tibbs will head to Double-A Portland after hitting 13 home runs with a 132 wRC+ in 57 games for the Giants High-A affiliate in Eugene. His plate skills have been Devers-esque: a 17.6-to-16.4 strikeout-to-walk rate.
RHP Jordan Hicks is kind of an underrated piece of this. He could be, and has been at times, a truly elite reliever. Every team could use another arm at this point in the season. If Hicks gets healthy, and the team can get him in rhythm, he’ll be a lights-out end-game option and give them three postseason pushes at ages 28, 29 and 30. Course that’s assuming they don’t see him as a starter.
It’s also pretty easy to talk yourself into LHP Kyle Harrison, a 23-year-old who I’ve always been low on due to his lack of control. He’s improved a bit in that area and has a 1.27 WHIP and 4.56 ERA through 23.2 innings this year. Lefty starters who average 95.1 mph with the fastball are not common. The league average is 93.2 mph, but that includes relievers. The club might be planning to turn that slurve into a cutter and encourage him to throw the changeup against same-side hitters. He currently throws the slurve 25 percent of the time, and it’s not working. Batters are slugging .810 against the pitch.
RHP Jose Bello is exactly what this developmental group loves: a pitchability guy with excellent off-speed command. Listed at 6’1” 164 lbs, he’s a 20-year-old with room to add velocity, and his slider and changeup are already dominating young hitters to the tune of 28 strikeouts and a 0.72 WHIP in 18 innings pitched.
I’ve seen some public-facing model stuff that says this was a huge overpay by San Francisco, but those start from the premise that the Devers contract is already about $40 million underwater. I reject that premise. The models, to me, are pretty much useless at the highest end because there’s not another Rafael Devers available to you. Even if one became available on the free agent market, you would have to out-woo and out-spend a bunch of other rich guys who want to win just as much or more than your rich people want to win. If you don’t want any elite players, that’s fine, but if you do want players so good they cannot be replaced, you have to bend a little at the edges of the math, and Boston has repeatedly refused to do that. The 313 million dollar extension was supposed to signal the end of that sort of thinking, but then egos got involved on all sides, so they’re back on their goodbye-forever bullshit in beantown. Makes me want to watch Good Will Hunting.
Thanks for reading!
PS: The Red Sox will be in San Francisco this Friday for the start of a three-game series.
PPS: Here’s a quote from Posey that crossed my path via Alex Pavolic after I’d finished this article. I think it works even better at the end here than it would if I tucked it into the middle: “The bat is so special. It’s really hard to acquire this type of talent at this point of his career. It felt like this was a chance to take a shot.”
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Hey Itch, thoughts on Carson Williams this year and beyond? I’ve been offered Barger and either Abbott or Gil for him and Holton, and im in contention. My 3b are vientos, McMahon and Lee *we start 2)
I’m taking Barger and running. I’ll take Abbott because you’re in contention.
Thanks, though maybe a bit more context. We do a 3 round prospect draft every all star break, and any prospect drafted can be kept for two additional years beyond that year (keep up to 5 prospects). Williams can be kept for one more year, as can chase burns, roki sasaki and Lazaro Montes. Crews expires for me as a prospect this year, but we are also picking 3 more in July. Barger is not a prospect by our definition so would likely be letting him go. Still a slam dunk?
Also, our league still likes voiding. I’m a bit worried the Abbott/Holton part of the deal might cause some to object. Would Barger for Williams still be a win given the above context?
I wouldn’t let Barger go if I could avoid it somehow.
And yeah I’d still do that deal straight up no hesitation
Although also you might wanna shop Williams for a day or two. Let everyone know he might be on the move.
Yeah maybe. I actually am thinking of asking him to swap Abbot out for Brandon Walter. We have to start one rookie SP, and right now I don’t have one active (I have Sasaki, Henderson, Zebby, Burns). Hopefully at the least he can fill that void until one of those other guys gets healthy or called up.
Other option is to trade Sasaki instead of Williams, but not sure I want to do that.
While I agree with the readers complimenting you for a well-written article, based on your own descriptions of the players Boston acquired it seems like a pretty good return for the Sox, particularly with the Giants agreeing to eat Devers’ contract in its entirety. In my opinion the deal was only possible due to the Giants’ persistent inability to induce free agent sluggers to play in that ballpark, whose very attributes make it unlikely that Devers will perform up to the lofty standards of his deal. Not withstanding the criticism Breslow has taken in the immediate aftermath of this trade I wouldn’t be surprised if it works out quite well for him and the Red Sox in the long run.
I agree with all of that.
They did pretty well on the return considering the context. They’ve already stated they’ll be teaching Harrison their signature cutter and that he has a sinker he’s been working on in San Fran that they want him to continue developing.
Still have a question to answer at third base over the winter though, I expect.
Itch,
This is a very well written piece. Probably the best one I’ve read regarding the trade.
Nice work! Thanks.
Thanks!
Felt really good to read that: )
Hopefully this wont post double but i didnt see my previous post : should i drop Logan Henderson for Joe Boyle ? Or someone else coming sooner ? Thanks Itch
Is Didier Fuentes available?
If not, I think yeah go with Boyle, but it’s pretty close to a toss up.
Fuentes is available. Take him over Boyle and Henderson ?
Yes
Thank you
I hope you got there in time : ) (I did not expect him to be called up today)
Finally got to this. I agree with several commentors. Good read. I enjoyed it. Thanks
Thanks!
So cool to see Buster doing his thing and being aggressive in the right ways. Could Devers have played things a bit cooler in Boston when he got jerked around? Sure maybe. But they asked him to be the big man and then within a year started undermining that and communicating like children. I’d be disoriented and pissed too. As a Giants fan i’m delighted that we get to profit from the mess and welcome a truly gifted hitter to the lineup.
Great write-up Itch, love that you blend your baseball acumen with your understanding of how human beings actually work.
Thanks for the kind words!
And I agree he could’ve probably handled it better, but his primary job is to hit. It’s someone else’s job to manage the roster and the humans.
I suspected Posey might be extremely good at this job. Pretty sure I was among the majority there, but still neat to see it. Good time to be a Giants fan.
Its funny, I had the same (perhaps biased) feeling about Posey but I think we were actually in the minority. My feeling was that most commentators canned the hire as SF pivoting in desperation to a sentimentality play and surmised that Posey’s skills on the field were very unlikely to translate.
Im all for leaning into sentimentality and celebration of the franchise’s lore, especially as an alternative to the bean-counter middle management style of administration that we’ve been treated to in SF the last several years. But more importantly it seemed to me that anyone who thought Buster’s skills wouldnt play off the field and in a vastly more dynamic role hadnt paid enough attention to what the skills actually were that made him great. Seemed to me like his skills include great judgement, valuing of people and relationships, a relentless committing to winning, holding himself to the standard he expects of others, and being able to game out complex processes and select the highest value actions for a desired outcome with great success rates. In other words, most the qualities one would want in a leader.
So far so good!
One of your better articles I’ve read.
Thank you. I had a similar feeling about it. Feels good to hear it from outside my head : )
Too much has been made about the Sox getting only Hicks and Harrison. Tibbs should be the real deal. I saw him and Smith at an FSU game last year and he seemed a little ahead of Smith at that point. He should move through the system easily. Maybe Harrison can figure it out but Boston isn’t ideal for him but Bailey could work a little magic.
Yeah this could be pretty big for Tibbs.
I’m curious about your thoughts on two terrific young catchers. I just saw that Drake Baldwin is leading all rookies in Rookie Of The Year voting. Do you think he’s better ROS and long term than Agustin Ramirez? Isn’t Sean Murphy and his contract (6 year, $73,000,000) in the way of Baldwin’s development and his production? Maybe Baldwin gets traded?
I don’t think the Murphy thing is an issue, long-term. The team is reportedly open to shopping Marcell Ozuna, which I take as an endorsement in Baldwin.
I do think Baldwin is a better player than Ramirez, but I’ll give Ramirez the edge on power output this season.
The Bregman opt-outs after each of the next two seasons are the clincher that Breslow et al. are just making it up as they go.
My favorite film set in Boston is “Killing Them Softly” (2012), based on the 1974 novel by George V Higgins. Brad Pitt’s brief monologue at the film’s conclusion might perfectly reflect Devers’ state of mind these past few months: “I’m living in America, and in America, you’re on your own. America’s not a country. It’s just a business. Now f****** pay me.”
I’ve heard I should see that film from a friend who tend to know his stuff. I’ll try to find it.
Yeah if they lose Bregman to free agency, who plays third base? There’s only one Bregman at the third base store.
what the what?! higgins (of arguably the most famous from influence modern crime novel in u.s. history, “friends of eddie coyle”)’ had another book turned into a movie, i had read numerous reports of only his first book (coyle) being well received by pretty much anyone in comparison to that first one. never had any interest in that movie, do now though.
AL-only keeper, 5OF, 3 MiLB slots, would you be trying harder to hold Lazaro Montes or Colby Thomas?
Lazaro
Counterpoint: He was a distraction in the clubhouse. He refused to be a good teammate and team player. Boston can sign a free agent to replace him.
Nice get for San Fran. Totally one sided trade in their favor. Bad moves all, around in Boston! San Fran is better, and Boston is worse after this trade, for sure.
Cora went back on his word multiple times…they yo-yo d him around. He obviously got upset he worked hard to get where he did and made money for them for years as a home grown star. They didn’t treat him well at all. He was just a cog in the machine to them not the heart and soul of their team. Had they treated him that way instead perhaps things would have been different. The “managers” did not manage well. Never hire a former reliever to run your team….
I guess it’s kind of a question of who really created the distraction and who kept it going. I mean they were 9-and-1 over their last ten. Couldn’t have been that distracted.
That’s what the media does. They keep an issue alive, by continually talking about it…..On ESPN, they will be asking the question; Should Breslow be fired? Boom! It’s all people want to talk about.
Yeah, plus Boston is good at seeding a story.
Hitting the cover off the ball = good teammate.
Not moving to first base = A hole. He’s OK with it in SF.
He cried about being moved from 3B, even though he couldn’t throw with a bum shoulder. EGO MANIAC!
I want him on my team, but I would think he’s a total cock as a person. I’m not saying he was treated well, and I too would be upset. Well, until I saw my paycheck!
For real. It’s been a long time since I played, but you feel a kind of way about every single guy who steps into the box, when that guy steps into the box. I tended to feel pretty warmly toward the guys who rake.
Great take Itch and you’re spot on. Posey will treat this kid like a person and not a widget and may bring even more out of him once he settles in.
Thanks!
He certainly figures to be motivated.
Nice work! It’s always enjoyable reading your stuff! Thoughts on Daylen Lile…this kid going to make an impact ROS? Thank you!!
Double dipping….Mike Burrows or Hunter Dobbins….ROS and long term thanks Itch!
Thanks, Hutch!
I like Lile. Good flier for some steals.
I’ll take Burrows, but I like both guys.
Itch!!
Just amazing work, man. Amazing piece, journalistic excellence!!
Have a great day.
Cheers,
Ante
Thanks, Ante!
Hope you’re having a great day!