The second half is here! Ya know, people always gripe about how long baseball is, but it seems like every season we always say “it’s flown by!” I should become a baseball psychologist. Although I guess Grey would be one of my patients… I immediately rescind this idea! On today’s show, we break down Grey’s Top 100 for the 2nd Half where I nitpick the hell outta all of Grey’s work. His rankings make no sense! Everyone wants more Grey and JB arguing, and we deliver on this show! We also talk about how team needs play into value ROS and how the Razzball Player Rater differs from the ESPN Player Rater. Our numbers Sherpa Rudy can explain better than us cackling morons! Here’s out latest edition of the Razzball Baseball Podcast:
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Want more RV and BAV. Didi Gregorius or Tim Anderson? Thanks.
@jb: I’d probably stick with Didi
Rumors of Alex Bergman getting called up this weekend. Are they legit? If so drop Kang for him or a.j. Reed. Kang might be suspended thanks.
@Peter guigli: I haven’t seen anything definitive, but I would drop Reed for him either way
@Peter guigli: Legit multiple sources
@Peter guigli: @Ralph Lifshitz: Rappin’ Ralph is now Reporter Ralph!
@JB Gilpin: Ralph on the street! Back to you JB
@Ralph Lifshitz: Now that Bregman is up, it’s back to Panda watch!
@JB Gilpin: Like Designer, Sandoval, or an actual panda? Oh wait that’s an Anchorman reference.
@Ralph LIfshitz: Sandoval. Now that he’s on the DL, lord knows what buffets he’s hitting up….
Alright, I’m in a 10 team, 12 player keeper league. I’ve got a ton of OF and have been trying to deal one with decent value for pitching for a playoff run. I’ve got lots of lineup depth. I’ve been shopping David peralta and ive been offered Jacob degrom…or Yu darvish and a 3rd round pick from another team. I really like both and am leaning towards degrom, given Yu’s injury history as of late, but I know how dominant Yu can be when healthy. I’m just looking for some outside advice. Scoring is as follows, and thanks in advance!
HITTING: H, R, RBI, HR, SB, BB, K, AVG, OPS
Pitching: W, L, SV, ER, K, BB, ERA, WHIP, QS
My roster is
C- lucroy
1b- belt
2b- Devon Travis
3b- Bryant
SS- b Crawford
OF- trout
OF- mookie
OF- springer
UTL- cargo
UTL- eaton
UTL- j. Upton
BN- Reyes
bN- Dee Gordon
BN- Matt Duffy
BN- Orlando arcia
BN- David peralta
PITCHING- Steven wright, stroman, waino, Ian Kennedy, volquez, Aaron Sanchez, Jaime Garcia, Chad kuhl, wade Davis, will Harris, Jeremy Jeffress
@Tyler: Whoaaaaaa, deGrom would be a HUGE haul for Peralta! Doing that in a heartbeat. I’d probably do the Yu one too, but the pick thrown in makes it a lot closer. Def take deGrom if it’s still up!
A licky boom boom downnn!
No more excuses JB, you’ve now been informed. Don’t you watch those VH1 countdowns at all!?!
@knucks: Ummmmm, huh? Haha
Make way for Bregman!!!
Now everyone shutup about holding him!
@Ralph Lifshitz: Wait, should I hold him though?
@JB Gilpin: no complain about missing out on Tyler Glasnow’s one start
@Ralph Lifshitz: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I missed Glasnow I was too SLOWWWWWWWW!
@JB Gilpin: Blessing in disguise. I added him at the expense of Turner in perts. Not my best moment as Turner was then called up a day later.
@Ralph LIfshitz: Yikkkkes, yeah that’s unfortunate… Timing the prospects is tough, especially when everyone is making 1,000 more moves than me (cough, Grey)
In a 12 auction keeper keep 10
2 catcher league, 6×6 with OPS/BAA added
Is it worth holding onto urias for 10$(300 cap)…I could stream that spot or grab some sagnof instead
My keepers possibilities
C seager. 21
K bryant. 42
Jake lamb. 10
Springer. 39
Degrom 25
Villar. 10
Jose Abreu 37
Schoop. 10
Maeda. 10
Darvish. 15
Lorenzo cain 17
Belt. 15
Gattis. 10
Khris davis. 10
Jose reyes. 10
Matz. 15
More Bregman stuff…is he good enough to justify trading Springer for him in a 3yr keeper league or am I just getting caught up in the emotion of the moment?
Springer would be a ROS rental while Bregman would be keeper eligible for 3yrs after this.
12 teams, we keep 10 at a 2 round penalty from where they were drafted this year; Bregman would be a 15th next year.
weekly H2H 6×6 with OBP and SLG instead of BA.
I have Betts, Springer, Marte, and Hanley (Pederson, Buxton, Meadows on bench) starting in my 4 person OF.
I can possibly talk the other guy into throwing in Maybin.
@TBone: Deffffinitely too emotional :) Ohhhh I’m too emotional, I read too fast! Springer rental vs 3 years.
Mannnn losing Springer hurts your OF a ton though. Where you at in the standings? I’d likely hold Springer if you’re looking like a legit title contender, and with that OF I’m guessing you are
@JB Gilpin: Thanks for the response…losing Springer does hurt.
I move between 4th-7th place every week because my pitching is so abysmal…relying on Pomeranz, Duffy, and Baure because Wacha, Gray, Stroman, and Harvey have let me down.
I’m trying to solve this in a separate deal.
Soul searching question for me: is Bregman good enough to take the risk that my hitting can withstand the loss of Springer.
@TBone: I dunno if your hitting can, but if you’re waffling that low in the standings, I think it might be worth A) the upside of Bregman for this year and B) Putting the pieces together for next season
I’m in 12 team keeper keep 10
2 catcher league, 6×6 OPS/BAA added
Is it worth holding onto urias for 10 $…could be streaming or sagnof
Keepers
C seager. 21
Bryant 42
Lamb 10
Springer 39
Degrom 25
Villar 10
Darvish 15
Lorenzo cain 17
Belt 15
Gattis 10
Jose Abreu 37
Schoop 10
Maeda 10
J reyes 10
Khris davis 10
Aj reed 5
@Big league choo: Is there price inflation every year? If he’s locked in at $10 for his career I def would hold.
@JB Gilpin: 5$ inflation each year…that’s everyone’s price for next year
@Big league choo: Ehhhh so innings limit next year as a $15 guy, mayyyybe they unleash him by 2018 as a $20 guy… I’m on the fence, but likely not holding him firmly
I need to drop one…who should it be ? Bud Norris Hyun-Jin Ryu Nick Tropeano Lucas Giolito
@PHIL: Probably Ryu, I have 0 faith in that shoulder
You guys think AGon has completely lost it? BB% and OBP are up, but BABIP is probably 25-30 points higher than it should be (and his AVG is 15 points higher than it’s been the last couple years). His career ISO is a typical bell curve and he’s sliding down the end of it into a cesspool of old man stink. I could see him hitting 12 homers with a 250 avg, 40 RBI and 30 runs in the second half, which isn’t awful, but, like, meh.
Need an infielder — a good hitter will do. 12 team mixed. Drop AGon for Bregman?
@Bad Ash: The ground ball rate is absolutely atrocious for a slow power hitter. he’s typically right at 1/1 GB:FB and it’s at 1.97/1 this year, basically doubling. I don’t see any way he gets 12 more homers.
Sure, I’d be good losing him for Bregman
Rumor has it Conforto is close to being recalled. Do you like him over any of the following:
AJ Reed
Randal Grichuk
Andrew Benintendi
12 team, H2H, redraft, 30 man rosters. No real big need for a particular category.
Thanks!
@Tiger’s Pride: He’s batting .340 across 50 ABs in Vegas. They should recall him! Can’t speak to him over the others though, I’ll leave that part to JB.
@Tiger’s Pride: @knucks: Redraft, I think you nab him over Benintendi. Once Conforto is up I think he’s locked into playing almost every day again, maybe against tough lefties. Still no clear Benintendi ETA yet
@JB Gilpin: It’s a gamble either way, but to what knucks said, Conforto is hitting again in AAA, which is what you hoped for by sending him down. I did end up swapping out Benintendi because I feel there is less risk with Conforto. Thanks fellas!
@Tiger’s Pride: Nice move, glad to help!
What? No photo of you and the random stranger that followed you into the bathroom?
@Grey: He’s there, I see him… with the Nats hat, head is right above the ball. Def got those “I’m gonna follow this dood into the bathroom” eyes.
Haha, the guy licking his lips? Ew…
@knucks: @Grey: Hahaha, I think that kid was just mad I didn’t give him the ball! And unfortunately I don’t go to the men’s room with my phone on a selfy stick, but maybe I should!
Hey that’s no selfie stick!
@Grey: It has that multifunction functionality though!
Haha
@Grey: Yea, that guy, lickin the lips and mouthing “Licky boom boom down” in JB’s direction. BTW JB, you should prob use the buddy system next time you wear an away jersey to a sporting event and need to tinkle.
Maybe its just me, ’cause I wear a Mets jersey to Phillies/Yanks games, but drunks cross the line realllll quickly sometimes. You won’t always have that Bryce Harper ball to make peace with the hometown fans and their savage children. Unless you continue to use Seat Geek of course!
@knucks: Lord this reference is getting awful hahaha.
Hah I probably should! Although I’m the only Brewers fan in my circle… Maybe I’ll bring a second jersey and just make someone change real quick… Nats fans have all been cool, Reds fans are the only rowdy ones I’ve come across and it wasn’t really to me, it was to some other Crew guys at Great American
@JB Gilpin: Hah yes it is
The philly crowd is another breed of human being. I used to wear Mets gear for fun, even when I was at games like Phillies/Nats. Now I only wear it if its an actual Mets game and there will be other Mets fans around. And to be honest, my gf (who went to Temple) hates the Mets and does me no favors in these scenarios.
Hahaha
@knucks: @Grey: My wife only begrudgingly wears Brewers gear since she doesn’t care all that much. I think asking her to buddy up with me to the men’s room might put her over the edge and have her not go to games with me anymore…
You got her her very own Lucroy jersey, didn’t you?
@Grey: I made some conjoined twins jerseys so we have to walk in tandem
What about moncada? any chance he comes up?
@BelmarPhil: Sure, but if so I think Sept. cup of coffee at the best. Then postseason pinch runner
10 team OBP / qs h2h
heavy on sbs
My starling/franco/lester/manaea for
Bryant/carter/hamels/hill
@Big league choo: I like it! Pitching is a slight downgrade, but very slighht since I have faith in Hill. You get best in the deal too
Hey JB, congrats on the grab! Hoping you can help me out, 5×5 roto (OPS, QS, Solds)
Naquin and Dee Gordon are available… who’d you drop for one or the other or both? Pineda/Ryu are probably the obvious choices…i just worry about my rotation health to the point of paralysis haha. any guidance much appreciated!
c- Perez
1b- Davis
2b- Odor
3b- Frazier
ss- Seager
mi – schoop (ramirez)
ci- j. ramirez (moss-dl)
of- harper, marte, ozuna, saunders, davis (souza jr)
sp- strasburg, salazar, matz, samardzja, gray, gausman, pineda, ryu
rp- reed, rodney, colome, rodriguez, thornburg
@shibboleth: thanks man! The experience was much better than the ball, so felt right to give it up.
Yeah def losing Ryu. You don’t have a huge need at 2B, but I think you get Dee. Then prob holding Pineda. If your SP stay put together you’ll have a shot!
Hey, JB! Kemp or Dee Gordon for ros? Thanks!
@Jerry: Hey man! That’s a great question, I’ll lean Kemp still unless you have a solid lineup of starters and can afford the stash
Rumors that the Rangers will try to trade for Pom.
@Scott: I think a bunch of teams are “trying” to trade for him. Luckily his K numbers will minimize some of the park change effect if he goes there or say BOS
@JB Gilpin: do you think Pom will be on any sort of innings cap the rest of the way even if he gets traded to a contender?
@PED Inc: Nope! A contender I don’t think would hold him back. Maybe skip one start or two at the most, if that said contender had their playoff spot locked up
Now it seems Bregman will not be promoted…..Managers, who needs? AmIrite?
@Ralph Lifshitz: I think Hinch tried to whip out his big dick of the law as he was against having Bregman up, and now the GM has to make the team not look like they have bad communication
should i keep ellsbury at 10$ or Hosmer at 19$ in 5×5 roto league need to have keepers for next season in by today
@jjb: Gimme Hos
Nice pod! I have a trade question for you. 16 team h2h dynasty points league (QS for pitching). I am trying to win now, but its not a given. He offered Hector Santiago/Wei-Yen Chen/Roberto Osuna/Dillon Tate for my Alex Bregman/Jorge De La Rosa/Bassitt/Alex Gordon. The hard part for me is parting with Bregman. Is this enough for him? It feels kind of gross. Thanks
@AU!:
Meh pass
@AU!: @Frankgrimes: Thanks for listening! Nah yeah I agree. I’m passing on that
My pitching staff looks like so: MadBun, Pomeranz, Tillman, Verlander, Sanchez, Quintana, Ross, Rodon, Darvish, McCullers, Nola, Shoemaker, Duffy, Richards.
Do you think I can afford to trade MadBum? I have an offer standing for Kris Bryant.
@Jensen:
Do it!
@Jensen: @Frankgrimes: Whewwwww. You lose your anchor. You have a lot of decent depth but no other aces. What’s the format? And how is your O doing otherwise?
@JB Gilpin:
It’s 6×6, keep forever. My O was a disaster to start the year but has been much better the last month and a half leaving me between 2nd-5th in O cats. Runs and steals being my highest, RBI and OPS my lowest.
Problem is I have Machado, Nunez, and Beltre already and 2nd base is really my area of need on O where I am starting Rendon/Schoop. I could also get Odor + Odubel Herrera for Bum which fits my needs better but Bryant is just so much better than those guys.
@JB Gilpin: 12 team, 6×6, keep forever.
My O was dreadful to start the year thanks Upton, Billy Burns, and Delino Deshiznit. But has been very good the last month or so. I’m standing 2nd in runs and steals but 4-5th in HR, RBI, OPS, AVG.
Problem is I have Machado, Nunez, and Beltre at 3B. And my need is really at 2B. I could get Odor and Herrera which is better for my needs but neither of those guys can touch Bryant.
@JB Gilpin: 12 team, 6×6, keep forever.
O is pretty good/not great but has been much better recently and was a disaster the 1st month.
@Jensen: HA! this is what happens when you comment from your phone in NYC and they don’t show up at first. My bad.
@Jensen: Haha no worries man!
Agree Bryant is better… Keep forever is what’s luring me in. i think it’s worth having Bryant as a forever keeper
The podcast came in handy during my daily commute , great job fellas !
Grey mentioned Ordorizzi’s past 2nd half struggles … and now I’m being offered Ordorizzi for a 2017 minor league draft pick in my 16 team dynasty h2h …
The analytics of my team go like this — I’m in 1st place due to a super-charged uber mashing offense (207 homeruns, next team has 176), but my starting pitching is crap (15th in team ERA and WHIP). I’ve streamed my butt off just to stay competitive with the counting stats for pitching (I’m second in K’s from all the streaming, but remember that it’s h2h)…
My starters go…
deGrom
Carrasco
Guerra
Corbin
Bud Norris
A.J. Griffin
Tropeano
Mengden
Because of our minor league component, starting pitching prospects that are now getting the callups are mostly already tied up on minor league rosters, though I have tried the likes of Chad Kuhl and Chad Green who are available. The rest of what’s on the waiver wire is uninspiring (Tyler Duffy, Logan Verrett, Christian Freidrich, Wade LeBlanc, etc.)
At this stage of the season should I take the Ordorizzi offer or keep dumpster diving for starting pitching (aka streaming) in the hope something better will shake loose as the trade deadline passes? (or maybe do both?)… Ordorizzi’s career road splits look terrible.
Thanks!
@Racehorse: I’m taking the offer and nabbing Duffy, who I don’t think is all that different than Odorizzi moving forward haha. Never been a big Odorizzi guy, so I like that you can get something for him. Any time!
Regarding one issue you guys were discussing on this podcast; about how you just pick up SAGNOF and it’s just a whatever stat because it’s so easy to come across. I haven’t found that at all this year. Grey said pick up Jarod Dyson if you need SBs, but he might get 3 in two days and you pick him up and he hits .200 for a week and a half and doesn’t steal a thing so you drop him and didn’t get a single SB. It almost seems like PAGNOF where you can pick up power if you see a guy like Bour or Cron hit a homer and then they hit 2 or 3 more after that within a few days.
@Fungazi: Yeah I agree, I should’ve fought Grey on that more. I kinda did saying it burns a roster spot… I think Grey is locked into his sayings more than the results so far this year. power is soooooo up
I think my favorite thing about the podcast this year is the way you two seem hellbent on convincing us that you guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about! ?
@Hugman: the question mark at the end there was a winky emoticon that didn’t work.
@Hugman: Hahaha we just like to have fun and I think clowning ourselves is pretty fun :)