BABIP is Batting Average for Balls In Play.  And they do lie, sometimes.  But who can resist a title alluding to a Shakira song?  Not me!  BABIP is a quick way to know how much luck a hitter is having.  There’s more to it, but for the purposes of this, above .300 BABIP for a hitter and it means the hitter could hit a bloop single just over the pitcher’s head with a drawn in infield.  Below .200 and the hitter could hit a line drive into the Grand Canyon and it would get caught by Alice on the back of a mule.  Then there’s HR/FB%, which is a quick way to know if a hitter is hitting more home runs than what makes sense for that player’s amount of fly balls.  Then there’s LD%, which is the percentage of hits that are line drives.  Line drives are usually a sign of solid contact aka a player is hitting the ball hard.  Finally, K% or the percentage a hitter Ks.  So why all the fancy acronyms?  Well, the other day a FOR (Friend of Razzball), jsp2014 threw this nugget into the comments:

“I was curious about who’s been lucky and unlucky so far for some buy low/sell high ideas, so I did a little research on Fangraphs.  I figured this could be useful to others as well:

Min. 50 PAs

Lowest BABIP (look for the AVG to go up): Zaun, Byrnes, Berkman (.171), Rollins (.172), Encarnacion (.175), McCann (.176), Tulo (.176), Alex Gonzalez, Hardy (.178), Quentin (.184), Phillips (.184)

Highest BABIP (due to come back down to earth): F.Lewis (.543), Youk (.490), Flores, Votto (.469), Beltran (.464), B.anderson, Markakis (.441), Asdrubal, Abreu (.426), F.Sanchez, B.Roberts (.415)

Highest HR/FB (expect the HR pace to slow for most of these): Young (42%), Adrian Gonzalez (35%; career 16.5%), Quentin (32%; 21% last year), C.Davis (31%; 21% last year), Thome (31%; career 28%), Inge (30%; career 10%), Reynolds (29%; career 18%), Dye, Pena, Jeter, Overbay, Branyan, Fukudome, Uggla, Tulo

Highest LD% (unsustainable but means they’ve made a lot of solid contact): N.Johnson, Salty, Feliz, Fields, Rolen, Blum, Teahen, Fukudome, Bartlett, Asdrubal, Castillo, Dukes, Youk, Bourn, Andy LaRoche

Highest K-Rate: C.Davis (49%!), Maybin (42), Thome (38), Dickerson (38), Upton (38), Schafer (37), Salty (37), Flores (37), F.Lewis (36), Reynolds (36), Fielder (35), Fields (34), Upton (33)”

That’s a great comment right there, and I appreciate it.  Now what can we gleam from this?

Fred Lewis – With his power and speed Crapolanco-like, his average is due to regress.  Might want to get out while the gettin’ is good.

Lance Berkman – He’s been the anti-Fred Lewis.  All power, no average.  That will get better.

Kevin Youkilis – While he will continue to be solid, he won’t be this solid.

Adrian Gonzalez – He always seems to start the year on fire and cool off as the summer heats up (Maybe he needs a trade to San Francisco?  It’s cold there in the summer.).  This year probably won’t be any different.

Brandon Inge – Because he’s eligible at catcher, he’s not a straight sell candidate but the homers will eventually dry up.

Troy Tulowitzki – As a career .312 BABIP hitter, he’s due to explode at some point soon.  Buy into the correction.

Cameron Maybin – His K% shows he’s struggling.  Yeah, no kidding.

Jimmy Rollins – Maybe luck has knocked the wheels off of J-Roll in the early going.

Geovany Soto – Just missed the cutoff of 50 ABs, but he has a .161 BABIP.  Shoulder might not be the only thing holding him back.

Jesus Flores – Don’t believe his early season flash, the pan’s coming soon.

  1. mannybeingmanny says:

    Grey, what’s your take on El Caballo at this point in time?

  2. Grey

    Grey says:

    @mannybeingmanny: His power’s there. But average-wise, another victim of bad luck. At some point, he’s going to have a .350 average month.

  3. NoonTime says:


  4. cws05nuts says:

    Did you come across any information on where Aaron Hill is headed?

    And over/under 40 for Cansecito? (Carols Quentin)

  5. cws05nuts says:

    And outside of the Coors/Oak-land analysis for Holliday… is he getting unlucky or just bad?

  6. cws05nuts says:

    @Grey: 22 for Hill right? Carlos +10 from 22 at least! I’m a hack, apologies.

  7. Zebo says:

    Scutaro just hit a homer, buy him? Also, what’s the price tag on Tulo now? Freddy Sanchez + a good pitcher?

  8. NoonTime says:

    @Grey: Yah.. his leadoff HR today had me reminiscing about his A’s days… great stadium chant when 1/2 goes MARCO! and the other 1/2 responds SCUTARO! Lil’Papi was a fan favorite.

  9. Grey

    Grey says:

    @cws05nuts: Bit unlucky on average, but he’s hitting fly balls. They’re just not going out.

    @Zebo: Sanchez and a pitcher should be plenty.

  10. Joel says:

    I looked at Symborski’s updated ZIPS.

    I’m thinking of a crazy ass trade offer.

    Moving Kinsler and a closer (let’s say F. Cordero) for Blowjob Upton and Alexei Ramirez.

    Is that nuts? My team is really sucking badly outside of Kinsler and I know Kinsler is due for some regression.

  11. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Joel: I think it’s a fair trade for you. Don’t mind it.

  12. whigs says:

    What’s up with K Jo (k. johnson)? I know its early but an awesome 4/1/3/.130 for the last 15 is hard to stomach in a 10-team league with a lot of talent available, not to mention him sucking his thumb for two straight games.

    I know you like Felipe more, what about Weeks?

  13. Zebo says:

    Jobacum for Tulo? The other guy has Weeks and Aviles for 2B and SS so I doubt he wants Freddy Sanchez.

  14. cubbies299 says:

    hey, 2 trades.

    Brad Hawpe/chrisby Young for C. Lee in a 14-team mixed with OPS as a category?

    Fielder/Krisby for Pujols

    What do you think of both and which would you rather take?

  15. Frank Rizzo says:

    *Groan*……..Chris Davis strikes out LOOKING with 1 out and runners on 1st and 2nd. LOOKING!

    I was taught in little league not to K looking.

  16. cws05nuts says:

    Did Davis get major coing yet or no?

  17. Joel says:

    @Frank Rizzo: You *know* Davis was going to GIDP there. So he did the Rangers a favor. I’m glad Davis was snatched up before I had a chance to waste a pick on him.

  18. Frank Rizzo says:

    @Joel: Davis is not costing me much because I got him so late in my 10 team (11th round). None of my leaguemates believed in him and they look smarter every day I roster this guy. But what really sucks is I laid off of Votto because of this guy and Votto went in the 12th round. That guy who’s got Votto is a genius, I’m a complete idiot.

  19. NoonTime says:

    HanRam, Kendrick, Josh.Anderson, Sherrill, Percival, Kershaw
    Rollins, Tulo, Ichiro, KRod, Vazquez

    That’s not even close is it? What about with Cruz instead of Anderson?

  20. Frank Rizzo says:

    @NoonTime: You hoping to swap teams with another guy or what?

  21. NoonTime says:

    Nope, have HR/RBI to spare, need SB, an upgrade at closer and a better SP. Compulsive waiver wire monger and trade proposer too.

  22. Pops says:

    I’m trying to push Davis for McCann in a ten team mixed league. The other owner has V. Martinez as his starter. I would sleep a lot better at night knowing that my fifth round pick turned into a productive McCann as opposed to a potential bust in Davis.

  23. Pops says:

    @NoonTime: I don’t like those five for five trades, or in case, four for six trades. There’s just too many interchangeable parts.

  24. Juice says:

    I am hurting at third base in an OBP and total bases league. I have Teahen and Branyan but could pick up Stewart. Should I just pick up Stewart and not care that he sits twice a week?

  25. Ian says:

    I’ve got Gonzo at 1B and Votto at utility (no MI or CI). Should I trade one to a team desperate for a 1B? Is asking for Soriano straight up for Gonzo too much? I could add a guy like Pence or Wainwright to sweeten the deal. Or should I just sit tight? – I am in 1st place afterall

  26. Tom says:

    I wouldn’t draft Ethier because i didn’t believe. I still don’t. But then, what the hell, I didn’t see his name on those list. Where is he headed?

  27. cws05nuts says:

    In a h2h daily pts keeper league what do you think about:

    my buddy is desperate for CC I’m not panicking I’ve kept CC for a couple years now I know what the deal is I just want Reyes… What do you think:

    I would ship CC, Carl Crawford, and Michael Young

    for Reyes, Zimm (3b), and Lackey.

    Go or no?

  28. Grey

    Grey says:

    @whigs: Go with Weeks in a 10 team league over KJ.

    @Zebo: Jobacum’s fair.

    @cubbies299: Prefer Pujols, would take either.

    @NoonTime: It’s not close. The Rollins side by a lot.

    @Pops: That trade’s fair. McCann’s playing in the minors right now. He should be okay.

    @Ian: Gonzo for Soriano is fair.

    @Tom: I think he’s headed for about what I gave him in my preseason predictions. 22/7/.290 thereabouts.

    @cws05nuts: Looks fair. Go.

  29. cubbies299 says:

    Thoughts on Zumaya/Parra for Matsui or Zumaya/Parra/Lewis for Burrel?

  30. AL KOHOLIC says:

    salty is having eye problems,2nd game this year he missed,meet me at the tea-garden anyone,keep an eye(pun intended)on him

  31. Grey

    Grey says:

    @cubbies299: I’d want Burrell, if that’s what you need (30 HRs, .260 average).

    @AL KOHOLIC: Ooh… That’s tasty. I have Teagarden in an AL-Only. Wish he’d do something.

  32. cubbies299 says:

    @Grey: Well I don’t need much really, but I don’t see Lewis as worth much and our league is always pretty active. I figure I’ll have an easier time packaging Burrel than I iwould Parra, who’s a real project. My rotation is pretty ghastly in ratios, (Verlander/Kaz/Lowe/Vazq/Weaver/Parra), but if anything, Parra hurts my ratios. U still do it?

  33. JR says:

    @Grey: I rely on you for confidence about Parra. Have you lost faith?

  34. Griff says:

    Do you guys believe in “The Jetstream”? I’m thinking about packaging Adrian with a closer to go after Teixeira. The guy with Tex only has Fuentes and BJ Ryan.

  35. Grey

    Grey says:

    @JR: If you can flip Parra for a sure thing (Burrell) and you need that, then I’m all for it. Parra’s never going to be great on ratios and that doode already had some pitchers who were an issue on ratios.

  36. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Griff: I’d prefer Tex there.

  37. EricB says:

    Need some advice on who to start next week…10 team mixed league, roto

    Here’s the options:

    Kershaw vs. Nationals (Zimmermann)
    Meche @ Angels (Saunders)
    Slowey @ Orioles (Hendrickson)
    Chris Young vs. Diamondbacks (Haren)
    Paulino @ Nationals (Cabrera) & vs. Padres (Geer) (2 start)
    Davies vs. White Sox (Buehrle) & @ Angels (Ortega)

    The other guys already in the lineup are:
    Liriano @ DET & vs. SEA
    Scherzer @ LAD & vs. WAS
    Billingsley vs SF
    Harden @ HOU
    Shields @ BOS

    If you think I should move any of them out also, let me know. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

  38. EricB says:

    Sorry if that wasn’t clear. Of the first six guys, I need to start one of them.

  39. Grey

    Grey says:

    @EricB: Start Kershaw and Slowey. Eh on Shields vs. Boston.

  40. Doug Ault says:

    @Grey: I sat Braden on 3 teams today.I was afraid of the Texas bats,not to mention his bad groin,not sure which one.He put up some decent numbers today,is he gonna keep it up,bad groins and all?

  41. Ashley says:

    Don’t hate on Adrian! He hit 36 hr, 119 RBI’s last year and was consistent all year, I love him and am so happy I drafted him.

    But I’m glad I finally learned what BABIP, never really knew what it meant or why it’s significant.

  42. Jobu's rum says:

    Hardy vs. Tulo: who wins for rest of season?

  43. San Jose says:


    would you deal Granderson and Inge for him?

    Relevant roster: I have Tulowitzki, and Mauer coming off the DL to bump Inge at C. He can use Alexei if he wants to at SS, having picked up another 2B recently.

  44. PhillyYorker says:

    Is Nolasco/Cano/C.Davis too much for Utley? I am set in pitching and lead league by 10 HR’s without Davis production. What I am looking for is better OBP and roster spots to pick up cheap saves.

    If this is too much, what would be a fair trade?

  45. @AL KOHOLIC: Teagarden? Nah, I’m gonna try and acquire Salty. Second bout with vertigo? Hmmm, I’d love to add him just to make Lucille Austero Arrested Development jokes for my team name.

  46. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Joel: The way Kinsler is hitting, I’d aim even higher. I think you could really rob someone with Kinsler right about now.

  47. Jobu's rum says:

    Hardy vs. Tulo for remainder of season. Who wins?

  48. Doc says:

    Fielder or Votto?

  49. Dingo says:

    Oh happy day! Hallelujah! The First Holliday HR of the year has finally arrived! From this day forth, April 30th shall be a day of celebration in Fantasy Baseball communities everywhere. We shall call it… a “Holliday.”

  50. Jobu's rum says:

    Hardy vs. Tulo for rest of season?

  51. Frank Rizzo says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: A guy offered me Kinsler for Braun straight up and I thought about it pretty hard before rejecting.

  52. Frank Rizzo says:

    @PhillyYorker: You could really take it up the ace for that one. As much as I love Utley I wouldn’t give a solid SP, a borderline stud 2b in his own right, and an underachieving masher who’s lights could come on in the future. I wouldn’t do it.

    (You hear me Davis? Turn the lights on)

  53. Jobu's rum says:

    Sorry about the duplicate posts … apparently my internet has a bad case of the downs.

  54. mgeoffriau

    Mark says:

    Cruz might get the save opp here if the KC bullpen can get it to the 9th. Would be nice to get 1 save from him before Soria comes back.

  55. mgeoffriau

    Mark says:


    Then whenever Holliday hits one out, you can yell, “WHAT TIME IS IT? FOUR THIRTY!”

  56. Zebo says:

    why did Wuertz get the save? Ziegler has not pitched in 4 days. Is something wrong here?

  57. mgeoffriau

    Mark says:


    We knew this:

    “Ziegler might be unavailable Thursday because of a “non-baseball related” condition, the A’s official site reports.”

    Courtesy Rotoworld.

  58. Zebo says:

    @Mark: damn, wish i did.

  59. Doug Ault says:

    @Mark: 4:20 is much more fun ;-)

  60. AL KOHOLIC says:

    Thats Mr. Buck to you,3-3 2 triples a double and 5 rbi`s.if i didnt have INGE id grab him,infact if Inge gets to k ing a bunch again i might do it anyway

  61. AL KOHOLIC says:

    non baseball related?family emergency,contracted a std?hopefully nothing tragic

  62. AL KOHOLIC says:

    lets go cruzzin,after al the hype of mr. k getting a save chance while soria`s out,,he better get me one

  63. jsp2014 says:

    And in return you saved me from Brian Tallet last night.

    Is Hanrahan worth owning in deep mixed leagues where people hoard MRs?

  64. sneauxman says:

    Fair deal?:
    I give Soto and Kelly Johnson
    I get Uggla
    (16 team H2H, 5×5, OBP instead of Avg)

  65. Nick says:

    Good post, like to see stuff like this when this acronym is always posted on here

  66. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @jsp2014: i think hanraham will eventually get the closer job back,when?but thats just my gut feeling ,and the fact that they havent got anyone [email protected]sneauxman: thats a great deal for you,

  67. I just flipped Krispy and Hoffman for Salty and Reynolds.

    I think I overpaid slightly, but my OF in good shape (Quentin, Markakis, Ethier, Dukes, Fowler) and the wire has a few intriguing options.

    My infield is a different story. Aside from Aaron Hill, everyone is sub .210 and its killing my April.

    Now if only I could find some sucker to take Derek Lee off my hands.

  68. Nick says:

    Aramis Ramirez is killing me right now…possible DL stint apparently…who would you go with to fill his spot out of these free agents..

    1) Lowell
    2) Reynolds
    3) Branyan
    4) Blalock
    5) Feliz
    or maybe take a risk with someone who is recently hot like Hall or sandoval

    Either way I’m going to wait another day make sure he hits the DL

  69. Jobu's rum says:

    Does anybody like Volstad vs. Cubs tonight? His road splits are not very good.

  70. Doc says:

    @Nick: Looks like ARam won’t go on DL. Lou says he’s much better. No time line though.

  71. eithier/shields for peavy/teixiera? is the peavy/tex side the obvious winner?

    what about votto/shields for peavy/tex? trying to propose this deal to a guy…. I am trying to get peavy/tex, i think? HA!

  72. Doc says:

    @Jobu’s rum: I’m sitting him, but I’m a Cub’s fan. With no ARam tonight I thought about starting him.

  73. @naughtandcross: you were the “sucker” for drafting derek lee, no offense…..

    (STV) Shoulda Took Votto!

  74. Nick says:

    @Doc: hopefully…rotowire says he is getting an MRI today. That just doesn’t sound good

  75. Falcon says:

    Question for everyone!

    Which do you want in a trade: Fowler/Lowell or Madson/Percival

    Assume both sides are filling moderate needs.

  76. @Falcon: fowler/lowell

    i dont trust the two “closers” to keep the jobs….

  77. Jobu's rum says:

    @Doc: I’m a Cubs fan too but also a fan of my fantasy team. Conflicted! Screw it, I’ll be at that game so if he sucks balls I’ll hit him with some “yo mama” razz.

  78. what do you guys think about this:

    ryan howard/Johan


    Votto/Shields/ Francisco Cordero

    Is that cordero part enough to tip the shields for johan part? I think at the moment (maybe) i can sell votto in there equivalent/equal to howard… even tho in the long run as much as i love votto and I think he’ll have a great year i doubt he ranks out higher than howard?

    12 teamer H2H leage 20 cats, 10 pitching 10 hitting….

  79. Jobu's rum says:

    @Falcon: I agree with Tony Y. I never trade “for” closers … I usually ship them away and keep working the wire.

  80. the dude needs closers bad, plus votto is studly, Shields is nice…. is it enough tho?

  81. vinko says:

    @Grey:Nice Brady Bunch reference! lol

  82. @Jobu’s rum: ya and its not that you shouldnt ever trade for them, just not junk fill in guys that as soon as Lidge is back madson is gone and percival to me is a DL case waiting to happen… they’re not valuable closers, if one was something decent SURE…. but they’re not….

    anyone with help on my couple trade deals ABOVE (1.5 inches?) HA!

  83. Doc says:

    @Tony Y: I think it’s good for you, but might be hard to sell.

  84. Simply Fred

    Simply Fred says:

    Why did some schmo named Wuertz get the save for Oakland today instead of Zeigler (whom I obviously have)? Is Zeigler hurt? It isn’t because he has been used up the last few days. ???

  85. Simply Fred

    Simply Fred says:

    That makes two of us (sick that is). But, I am already better knowing the situation is temporary. Thanks for the info.

  86. royce! says:

    @Doc: I find it very reassuring that the info on Ziegler and Aramis is coming from a doctor. Maybe you could also diagnose what’s been wrong with my batters- they’re batting .237 over the last week! Must be a case of the BABIPs…

  87. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:

    @Tony Y: Do not want. You’re giving away the two best players in this trade, and for what? Coco Cordero.

    For shame, man. For shame.

  88. BigFatHippo says:

    @Doc: Is it the swine flu Doc, tell us it’s not the swine flu…………..

    Will he ever be able to play the violin? Badabing!

  89. Doc says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Maybe I read the trade wrong. I thought he was giving away Coco, etc…

    @royce!: The Babip Flu is going around. It may be pandemic, heading to New Zealand!

  90. papasmurf says:

    What is wrong with F Lewis? (Well, besides not being very good)

    He stole 4 bases early on in the spring, which is the big reason I took him, thinking he will run a lot. He stopped running as the spring progressed and now during the season he has 1 sb. Maybe his legs are hurting.

    And he has 20 hits on the season… and 1 lousy RBI! How is that even possible? He hit in the middle of the lineup for a while.

  91. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @papasmurf: i never have liked him but hitting in the top of that shitty lineup should be all the more reason to run,burris has 5 sb`s with 12 hits?winn batting 3rd has 3 sb`s but single digit rbi`s,if lewis doent run,he isnt worth much

  92. AL KOHOLIC says:

    i say abreu gets 35 sb`s, Without the big guns this year,they are going to run,figgins running to

  93. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Grey: how often does rudy update the master standings,im not complaining,i appreciate all of you guys efforts and entertainment,Go RCL WHOOOOOO, FRIKIN RAAAAAAA

  94. albertalbert says:

    Great post Grey – I love this stuff.

    Surprised Cano wasn’t on there with how hot he’s been.

    I’m thinking about giving up Cano and Votto and getting Lance B and Rollins. Whatchu thinK?

  95. Grey

    Grey says:

    @AL KOHOLIC: This weekend he’s going to show me how to do it, so I can relieve him when he’s very busy. So we’re going to try and do it more often. Hopefully.

  96. Steve says:

    @Doc: Guys on my teams have had it for weeks. I just didn’t notify the authorities.

  97. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    He just got another SB today. Although you and I could probably steal off of Posada. And I got a rare ribbie from Godzilla. Rare for my team, at least.

  98. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    Question – Is Beckett (currently mine) for Ludwick a good trade. I need punch in the OF. My biggest concern is that for some reason, Lud doesn’t play every day.

  99. sean says:

    Two questions:

    1) Too early to trade Brandon Phillips for whatever value may be left? Dooode is killing me.

    2) Is Quentin too big of a monster to try to sell high for higher pick off to a slow start (I’m looking at you, Teixeira!)?

  100. Nick says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: Seems far to me but I got Beckett on my team now and he is doing work against Tampa so far…hopefully I didn’t jinx him!

    *Napoli solo shot on Burnett!

  101. Steve says:

    Try to swap Morneau for Berkman or is it too apples-for-apples?

  102. Grey

    Grey says:

    @sean: Too early. I’d hold Quentin.

  103. BigFatHippo says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: The only bad thing about Ludwick is he is the only RH hitter in that Cardinal outfield. Tony will sit him when he feels it’s a bad matchup against a righty he hasn’t had success against, but for the most part he will play.

    Been sitting the last two games with the flu bug, Lohse had it, Albert had it, it’s getting around like a pig in the Cards dugout.

  104. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Grey: COOL ,hopefuly ill mov p a bit by then,but my 1 for 12 start tonight aint helping

  105. BSA says:

    @Nick: Thanks Nick – Cruising until he ran into a case of the bloops and a bang. Damn It!

    Tonight’s conundrum –
    Beckett out there tonight with Wheeler and Percival ready to go in the eighth and ninth in the RCL.

  106. Nick says:

    @BSA: Sorry but Fu*k Beckett…damn it now I need to rely on Peavy against the Dodgers to bring my ERA & WHIP down to earth. If I can get the W/SV/K categories of pitching this week I’ll be happy cause my offense should do work this weekend

  107. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: Parra vs D-Backs tomorrow, yea or nea?

    I only added him cause you still believe, believe enough to start him in a 12 team?

  108. EricB says:

    Who’s the better player to start in the OF, Elijah Dukes or Hideki Matsui?

  109. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BigFatHippo: I think I’m going to give him tomorrow, then we might need some changes. Let’s do it together like Thelma and Louise!

    @EricB: Dukes, ya gotta ask?

  110. BKK says:

    @Grey: The trade you mentioned in the other post that annoyed you. Is this an “Experts” league?

  111. sean says:


  112. EricB says:

    Just asking because I’m getting killed in batting average and Matsui hits for a decent average. Team is still batting .250 with a team of all-stars. No thanks to Teixeira, Phillips, Iannetta, C. Lee, and some bums that aren’t on the team anymore.

  113. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: Why not, show me yours I’ll show you mine. Gonna be pissed if this backfires, don’t cross me Grey!

    I accidentally added him, funny story, never played ESPN and I had an open bench spot. Clicked add on Parra just so I could compare him to others on my team, bingo he’s added automatically, not even a “confirm”. This is not your Fathers Yahoo…….there goes my 2 pending waiver transactions, ouch, live and learn.

  114. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BKK: Yeah… I caused a little brouhaha on the messageboard, but I don’t believe in protests so pointing out a bad trade is my only course of action.

    @EricB: Gotcha.

    @BigFatHippo: What do you think after a month of ESPN? I like so much better than Yahoo. Love that I don’t need to refresh a page for the stats change.

  115. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Grey: Oh and the real time standings page; don’t forget that!

  116. Vince says:

    @Grey: First time I play on ESPN too. Agreed on the live scoring/standings. But why no watch list?

  117. BKK says:

    @Grey: Wow, what “expert” would do that deal. It’s the kind of lopsided deal I might expect in my office league where I have on occasion fleeced one of my co-workers with a chump-dump of hot-starters for struggling regulars. I would have made some noise too.

    You’ll beat ’em anyway.

  118. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: Standings is the only thing I like about it, but I can do the same on Stattracker.

    Guess I’m just so used to Y that I haven’t figured it out yet but it’s kinda hard to do research on. And the automatically adding the player thing without asking you to confirm, yeah, that pisses me off.

  119. Vince says:

    @BigFatHippo: Yeah the “automatic” add happened to me too… I miss the Watch List, Players rankings from Yahoo… I don’t like the Players research too… I always forget to select the “pitchers” option when I search for a specific pitcher.

  120. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Vince: Not sure, don’t use the watch list on Yahoo. I watch everyone… muahahahahaha

    @BKK: It was in the Yahoo Expert league that Behrens put together.

    @BigFatHippo: Yeah, I guess Stattracker does that too, but I didn’t buy it this year.

    Also, there’s something to ESPN outsiders able to view the league pages that Yahoo doesn’t do.

    EDIT: Word.

  121. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @BigFatHippo: cant you drop him and still have your waivers

  122. Steve says:

    Jeez. the only – and I mean THE ONLY – bright spot in this Boston-Tampa fiasco (I have Beckett in Hippo and Al K’s keeper), is that my H2H opponent has Garza.

    On the bench.

  123. Vince says:

    @Grey: haha

  124. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Steve: bradley and fontenot helped,i could really use a little pop from bradley to ease the laughs from dropping swish,whom im still not sold on,and gotta save from cruz

  125. BKK says:

    @Grey: So like Paulie Allnuts, I missed out on the Swisher sweepstakes. Is Andruw a better option than Hermida right now. Hermida is scuffling pretty good lately.

    Other options I’d consider Kendry, Marlon, Zobrist (eligibilty is the main intrigue here).

  126. BKK says:

    @Grey: Re: ESPN and there’s all that free advise from Eric Karabell!

  127. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: Hope it wasn’t Behrens making that move, I like him.

    re: Stattracker, it’s 10 dollars dude, you can scrape that outta your console, or cash in a Daquiri! I still owe you 4 of those by the way, haven’t forgot.

    @AL KOHOLIC: I could, but now I’m gonna drop somebody else, me and Grey got a Thelma and Louise pact :) He prolly won’t fall to my waiver spot anyway.

  128. p0rk burn says:

    @Swisher: I took BigFatNick with pick 22 or something in a league as a back-up back-up, decided to play the Bonafacio sweepstakes on day two of the season. After Nady went out and what Swisher has done I sure wish I could have that back.

    @Team Huckleberry: Lets make something happen with this counter-proposal.

  129. Steve says:

    For crying out loud. My Damon and Tex both with the sacks full.


  130. BKK says:

    @p0rk burn: I think Swish has had 3 maybe 4 different owners in the Latin 9 this year. So your’e in good company.

  131. Infamous says:

    How does Russel Martin for AJ Burnett sound?

  132. paulzone says:

    baker or ianetta?

    kubel or fukudome?

  133. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BKK: You can try Jones, maybe catch lightning in a bottle.

    @BigFatHippo: It wasn’t Behrens.

    @Infamous: I want Burnett, but I’d prefer a different top SP.


    I suspect a lot of Sonvabenchings with Garza tonight.

  134. Grey

    Grey says:

    @paulzone: Ianetta — Fukudome for right now.

  135. Infamous says:

    @Grey- Martin and Capps/Bell for Shield if possible?

  136. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Infamous: Martin for Shields straight up should be doable.

    @BigFatHippo: What happened with Rasmus? Why was he pulled?

  137. Colin says:

    Ya I just came on to say Julian Tavarez is a fkn dumbass.

    Carry on.

  138. paulzone says:

    @Grey: 1 win, 1 loss, 18 k’s, 5.11 era, 1.22 whip. know what those numbers mean??

    (answer: combined stats if started beckett vs. garza tonight, like me)

    2 crap games for beckett in a row. garza stays off the waiver wire.

  139. ron mexico's papi says:

    Julian Tavarez, I should have known better than to add you to both of my teams.

  140. BKK says:

    @Grey: Well, that ship has sailed too. He just got picked up at about 15 minutes after I asked your thoughts. Snooze you lose.

  141. Steve says:

    Screw you Tom Gordon.

    Useless prick.

  142. Grey

    Grey says:

    Oh, Tavarez, why? Why? WHY?!

  143. Endless Summer says:

    @Colin: He’s baseball’s Ron Artest. Don’t tell him I said that.

    Freakin Beckett! Waiting for Godot, more like waiting for a start with less than 6 ER given up.

    I am trying to trade for Justin Upton. Would anyone think giving up Carlos Marmol, Manny Corpas, and Travis Snider would get it done or am I fooling myself and eventually dropping some of these guys?

  144. Jobu's rum says:

    I hate Tom Gordon. I wish him nothing but the worst.

  145. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Endless Summer: I’d take your castoffs for Upton in certain leagues.

    Wait, where did my Jobacum win go? Why are the fantasy Gods messing with me tonight?

  146. paulzone says:

    @Endless Summer: i feel your pain. had beckett last year too. it’s a rollercoaster with him.

    what’s the outlook for this Richmond, 29 year old rookie pitcher in Toronto?

  147. paulzone says:

    will hardy cross the mendoza line this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

  148. Jobu's rum says:

    I’m I cray for fearing the Manny/Either sex magik will keep Kemp batting 7th all season?

  149. Jobu's rum says:

    @paulzone: I have Hardy sucking it up and I can’t bring myself to let go. Sadly, nothing better on the wire. Like having an abusive husband in a small town

  150. Jobu's rum says:

    @paulzone: I have Hardy sucking it up and I can’t bring myself to let go. Sadly, nothing better on the wire. Like having an abusive husband in a small town

  151. p0rk burn says:

    The Fish just called Maroone looking for a used Pinto. There goes any chance of them winning this game.

    Regarding all the Tarvarez bashing, can I say thank you Chris Perez for the win?

  152. Endless Summer says:

    @Grey: Thanks for the advice on the trade. I think Upton is a great buy low guy.

    Justin Upton batting 8th: 27 PA, 5 singles. .208/.296/.208 .505 OPS

    Justin Upton batting 7th: 30 PA, 8 hits(4 doubles, 2 HR) .308/.400/.692 1.092 OPS

  153. paulzone says:

    @Jobu’s rum: nice analogy. the last respectful ss option abradubala cabrera was picked up a few days ago. I’m stuck too. at least he has been unlucky…

  154. Endless Summer says:

    @paulzone: Beckett keeps this up, he’ll be starring in season 2 of Eastbound and Down.

  155. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    @BKK – You have to watch what you ask for on these pages. Our league is filled with vultures – you ask Grey a question, he gives an answer, someone else moves a bit quicker then you, and bam! He’s gone!

    @paulzone – at least you get credit for the good and the bad. In one of my Yahoo Leagues, I won Garza and Beckett. Guess which one I benched…

  156. Jobu's rum says:

    @paulzone: What do yuo think about trying to trade Hardy for Tulo straight up?

  157. p0rk burn says:

    The Marlins are showing what their speed is good for. I take it back Renyel, just don’t try to pitch the bottom of the 10th.

  158. Dexter says:

    What do you guys think of a trade of Fielder, Alexei Ramirez, Liriano (or Kazmir) for Lind and Youkilis?

  159. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @BKK: we wouldnt hitthe waiver wire to fast,@Paulie Allnuts:

  160. AL KOHOLIC says:

    the hoff is back,now go lindstrom

  161. BKK says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: You know it. I had a waiver in for Swisher shortly after AL dropped him. Then he proceeds to make all kinds of noise while sitting on waivers. Jones hits a Donk tonight and bingo, he’s gone too.

  162. p0rk burn says:

    @Dexter: Its great if you are the one giving up Lind and Youk.

    @AL KOHOLIC: Its not a save opportunity anymore.

  163. BKK says:

    @Dexter: I think its extremely lopsided to the Fielder side!

  164. BKK says:

    @AL KOHOLIC: Comment 168: not sure what you meant there?

  165. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    @BKK, @AL KOHOLIC – We need to come up with a Razzball term for this this type of behavior – a fellow league member sees a question that you have posted answered by Grey, and then steals the recommended player before you get an opportunity to pick him up on waivers. This is outrageous, cunning, insidious, back-stabbing… (not that I wouldn’t engage in this action if the need arose…)

  166. paulzone says:

    @Jobu’s rum: A month ago, i had hardy ranked ahead of tulo. both are stinkin’. i can’t imagine an owner trading sh*t for sh*t or is it tit for tat? whatever. i’m gonna take my lumps for awhile longer…

    What do you think Grey?

  167. Colin says:

    How does Cantu actually get pitches to hit? Why doesn’t anyone throw in him sliders outside like they used to and strike him out on 3 pitches? Jeeze.

  168. p0rk burn says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: This is also why the original RCL specifically prohibited its members from asking for advice pertaining to their RCL teams.

    We almost vetoed a trade because of it. Cheaters.

  169. BKK says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: I’d like to call it coincidence. It’s not like Grey had a ringing endorsement for him. I grabbed Morales instead. He is 26 with some upside.

  170. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @BKK: snagging available players up,they dont last long with that [email protected]Paulie Allnuts: good idea,ill think on that one,plus you gotta tell grey about the good reference to picking up woods that you posted on our league page,,awesome

  171. BKK says:

    @p0rk burn: Ya right, you tried to prohibit it but it was happening all the time and Grey didn’t care or at least had no opinion on whether it should or should not be allowed.

  172. Steve says:

    Looks like Aramis might be out a bit longer.

    I currently have Branyan filling in. Should I be using Teahen, Rolen, Headley or Feliz instead?

  173. BKK says:

    @AL KOHOLIC: Oh I know, I have missed out on so many guys this week it is rather silly…Madson, Swisher, Jones, not to mention countless others Hughes, Holland, Hanson…

  174. mgeoffriau

    Mark says:

    I offer Peavy to get Berkman.

    That leaves (for SP) on my roster: Vazquez, Bedard, Slowey, Wandy R., Scherzer, Volstad, Scott Baker, and Escober sitting on my DL.

  175. p0rk burn says:

    @BKK: “You tried to prohibit it” meaning the league agreed to refrain, yes. Generally when it was noticed people were chastised and I hardly blame Grey for not comparing each question to a list of the RCL teams. The basic point was the agreement to try to compete against each other, not who had the direct line to razzball central.

    Take that as you may and carry on, its all for pride anyways. Unless you really, really, really want Tacobell coupons.

  176. Infamous says:

    Magglio for Haren and the owner rejected. What else or should I add something to the trade.

  177. dtv says:

    brian wilson for jon lester???

  178. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    @AL KOHOLIC – (From the Latin 9 league page) – “I wasted my waiver pick on Brandon Wood, who started once for me before I dumped him. He was UnScociable.”

  179. BSA says:

    @BKK: I disagree BKK it only happened once – Baron and Kenny – Kenny floated the trade and then claimed “I never agreed to that.”
    Grey didn’t have an opinion on the matter and c’est la vie.

    Even now the original Recipe does a pretty good job of staying away from RCL specific trade and pickup questions. Granted everyone, except me, is pretty good.

    I think it makes it more interesting, and harder, not to float RCL related questions on Razzball. It also takes vulturing beyond saves.

  180. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @BKK: man paulie is last in our league in steals but only like 8 steals from a 7 ,hes got bonifacio,hanley bourne and ichiro,so that will change,and since grey isnt competing in the rcl now,he provides educated opinions to mosany questions,quick draw Mcgraw wins.hippo ask him stuff on here about the league me him and steve are in,but he tries to do it when he notices we arent being active on here,sneaky little hippo isnt he

  181. Steve says:

    @AL KOHOLIC: He will never ask a question that I don’t know about.

  182. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Paulie Allnuts: thats a great one,and so true,he hates woods,

  183. p0rk burn says:

    @BSA: I think I’ve been out-succincted yet again.

  184. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Steve: he bitched on here about roob and now trying to suck up to screw him on a trade,and roobs pissed at me so he might do it since ive got a lead on hippo

  185. BKK says:

    @p0rk burn: Fair enough. Trade advise is one thing. I think I remember the controversy – Hank was using an alias or something like that. However, the guys in the league all know who I and asking whether schmohawk 1 over schmohawk 2 is rather inconsequential.

    Not like its made a difference as the guy I asked about got scooped anyway. I’ll likely refrain from these types of questions specific to the RCL.

  186. BSA says:

    @Steve: Shoot Steve I am starting to see where this time differential can work out for you. You’re day is ending while ours is getting going. Unless we go to bed wicked late and get up before dawn you get first pick (unless a waiver is accessed).

    Eh, C’est La Vie! I am going back to the basement. I noticed Cruisin’ tried to get away but she is coming back down for the party. Anyone else want to join in. It’s cooler in the basement as the weather heats up and the beer is cold.

  187. AL KOHOLIC says:

    ha look at weaver go,thought he retired 5 years ago

  188. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @BSA: you know how to say beer in New Zealand? beer,yeah teves a bit sneaky himself great having him in keeper league

  189. Bermuda Triangles says:

    Grey – can you give me a quick thumbs up / thumbs down:

    12 man HTH auction league

    My offense is a little weak, my pitching is stoked for now (Harden, Gallardo, Jered Weaver, Phil Hughes, Rickey Romaro) especially with closers (H Bell, B Morrow, M Gonzalez, T Hoffman, B Fuentes).

    I have the opportunity to make this trade:

    From me: H Bell, J Weaver, J Lugo, R Doumit
    Fom him: J Rollins, J Arendondo, C Ray (or Putz), R Barajas

    The extra guys are to make the dollars work. I’m giving him salary cap room and I’m going to basically max out my salary.

    Right now I have Theriot and Alexei Ramirez in the minors (free keeper next year if he stays down) and we play with 2 utility spots. My current util guys are Rios, Ankiel and Bourn – so Rollins will obviously play.

    The guy is also in my division (he’s 3-0-0, I’m 1-0-2), he has a much better offense, but is short on starters and has no closers.

    Advice would be appreciated.

    Bermuda Triangles
    Get Lost! (<-that’s our slogan, not directed at you)

  190. Steve says:

    @BSA: @AL KOHOLIC: I gotta say – I am in pole position to hoover up any of the nuggets that fall out of the daily round-up…

  191. Prince says:

    Hey guys, can anyone give me any info on Corpas? Has he been demoted?

  192. Doc says:

    Just got back from the Cubs game. Ugh, great game until the 10th!

  193. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Mark: I’d get Berkman there.

    @Infamous: You need to add a closer or something to that trade for Haren.

    @dtv: I want Wilson.

    @Bermuda Triangles: Thumbs up.

    @Prince: Hurdle says he’s considering going back to Street. Can’t drop Corpas yet though.

  194. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Prince: supposedly,i grabbed street and dropped hanraha,but after tonight hanny might be closing

  195. BKK says:

    @AL KOHOLIC: Kip wells will get a shot first.

  196. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @BKK: cant be any worse

  197. Prince says:

    @Grey: @AL KOHOLIC: Thanks guys. Street is on waivers, so I’m a bit torn as to whether to make a claim and drop Corpas. Dropping Corpas would also allow me to sub for Hamilton or Hanley.

  198. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Prince: Don’t drop him yet. You can miss one or two games without a replacement. You might save yourself an 0-for-4.

  199. Prince says:

    Denver Post:
    “The job as Rockies closer has been a revolving door, and right now it appears that Huston Street is on his way in and Manuel Corpas is on his way out.
    …’It was a significant opportunity to do something good for the ballclub, and (Street) was able to do it,” Hurdle said. “It was in pretty effective fashion, three punch-outs, no ball in play. But I’ll probably talk to the team first.'”

    I think I’ll take the chance and drop Corpas.

  200. Prince says:

    @Grey: Good point, that’s true. But if it’s probably going to be Street, now’s my chance to get him (though I’m 10th on waivers). I have no one else to drop.

  201. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Prince: Oh, if you’re looking to grab Street, then definitely. I’m saying don’t drop Corpas just let for random waiver hitter that might only be on your team for 2 days. In summation, hold Corpas, grab Street.

  202. Bermuda Triangles says:

    Grey: Thanks for much for the quick response. Really enjoy the site and the daily round up!

    Question – where do you see Rollins by the end of the year?

    .280, 110R, 12HR, 90RBI, 40SB

    or is that a pipe dream? what are your numbers?


    Bermuda Triangles
    Get Lost!

  203. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Prince: @Prince: good thing for me hr`s my 5th closer and i have B.J Ryan on dl,so i can try and trade after 1 save

  204. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bermuda Triangles: His lack of steals is really the most disconcerting thing. I don’t think he’s far from those numbers you posted, but he really needs to get going on the basepaths.

  205. Nick says:

    Just found a pretty good site called Said A Ram will not be going on the DL and will be back in a couple days, no need for 15 days recovery. I’m hoping there sources are reliable but its not a bad website.

  206. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:

    Two Teabaggers for John Buck in one game!

    Is there a curse on Jobacum? Will he ever get his first win in the Bigs?

  207. scarecrow says:

    Trade Howie Kendrick for Dexter Fowler, straight up? No brainer?

  208. Prince says:

    So – play Kershaw vs. the Pads?

  209. john says:

    @Nick: Rotowire is saying he’s going in for an MRI on the calf, are you sure about that website?

  210. Steve says:

    @john: Think MRI came back negative. Someone (pork burn maybe?) posted a link to a story in the Chicago press further up.

  211. john says:

    @Steve: thanks, that makes me feel a little better..ArRam has been one of very few productive members of my team this year

  212. Colin says:

    Matt Kemp hitting 7th again tonight….woohoo, somebody up there hates me!

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