There’s a few categories of rookies. One category of rookies is guys who could be extremely valuable if they get an everyday job out of Spring Training — your Wander Francos, your Royce Lewises, your Brendan Rodgerses (Rodgerii? Rodge on rye?). Then there’s another category of guys who will actually have a starting job but might not excite you with huge upside — your Luis Garcias, your Ryan Jefferses, your Andres Gimenezes (Gim Z’ers?). At least Andres Gimenez appears to be in the latter group. But, and, please allow Reversal Question Man to ask it — IS HE?! I hear that, RQM. Andres Gimenez last year went 22/3/12/.263/8 in 118 ABs. Casually, without much fanfare, I’m just going to muffle Mr. Prorater and do it myself:  Across 162 games that’s a statline of 100/15/60/.270/40. Oh, I’m sorry, are you gorgeous? Or am I mistaking you for someone else? No…*puts on sunglasses*…you are gorgeous. Now, let’s get out of here. *takes Gimenez’s 162-game prorated stats out of this honkeytonk bar, jumps in my Sebring and peels out of the parking lot, just as we hit the open road, I turn away from Gimenez’s 162-prorated stats and look at Carter Kieboom’s upside, and Gimenez’s 162-prorated stats smack me* What? I just wanted to see what Kieboom could do, you know I love you. Don’t be mad! So, what can we expect from Andres Gimenez for 2021 fantasy baseball?

Don’t want to make our Mets readers horny, but what if the Mets trade for Francisco Lindor? What if they don’t trade for Lindor? What if they trade Andres Gimenez to Cleveland? Well, in any of those scenarios, Gimenez plays from Jump Street. In the latter–Well, it’s actually the third scenario, so the lattest scenario? Yeah, in the lattest scenario on the Indians, Gimenez definitely plays. No way he gets traded somewhere like that and doesn’t play. If Lindor is in Queens with Gimenez, Andres moves to 2nd and platoons with Cano. If Andres remains in New York with no Lindor, he plays short. Tut-tut-tut, what about Amed Rosario? Okay, the infield is jammed, but I have to think Gimenez sees at least 75% of starts. For fantasy, playing time is near the top of my wants. My wantiest?

Last year, Gimenez had a 5.3% BB/9 and 21.2% K%. Not exceptional on the walks, not even near league average, but the strikeouts are actually better than league average, and his percentages of balls swung at outside and inside the zone were close to league average. He was getting pretty beat by the curve last year, and pounding the fastball and change. Basically, if you sit dead-red, Gimenez will get ya. In conclusion, his average won’t be bad. Doesn’t walk, doesn’t strikeout (much), hits fastballs. Check, check, fine, .265-75 with neutral luck.

How about that power? He had a 13.5 Launch Angle, 10% HR/FB and 33.7% fly ball rate, while pulling a majority of balls in play. He can power out 8-12 homers next year, and maybe 15-17 in his prime. Not a big power guy, but he has 60 grade wheels, and loves to run even if it’s into outs. I could see him being limited depending on what a manager wants to do. Luis Rojas seemed fine running, and Gimenez was only caught once last year, but the year before he had a hideous caught stealing percentage in Double-A. Maybe he figured out that part of his game. Or maybe it was 60 games in a weird season and pitchers and catchers didn’t care if Gimenez ran. I could see either being accurate. I want to believe Gimenez is good for 30+ bags, as his speed says he should be, but I also see a guy who might steal 18 bags while being caught ten times. To recap the last 37 words, he was around top 20 in the league in Sprint Speed, and I worry he might get a red light. So, wide range of outcomes is sadly in his most productive category. That’s a concern. How’sever, he should be cheap eh eff in drafts, so what the hey? To give you an idea of how good things could be, Steamer projects Gimenez for nine homers and 16 steals in only 352 ABs. If he can get to 550 ABs, we’re talking a possible 15/25 guy. Yummers! For 2021, I’ll give Andres Gimenez projections of 51/11/58/.268/19 in 397 ABs with a chance for more.

 
  1. Dave D says:
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    I think you hit the nail on the head. The talent is there on Gimenez but between a potential trade for Lindor, and Rosario around, PT could be an issue. No doubt Lindor gets traded, and we are talking the Mets so… an aging SS would be good for them to trade for and signe to a 10-year $300 extension. Perhaps the new owner is smarter though?

    • LaRockakis says:
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      Aging or hitting his prime?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Sitting in his prime, prolly

        • Dave D says:
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          Dont get me wrong, Lindor would be a great pick up at age 27 for the next 4 years, but the Mets, like my Angels, would tack on another half-decade of declining value at maximum cost.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Yeah, that’s fair…I kinda don’t mind until it becomes an issue…Meaning, if it sucks in five years, then when it sucks I’d worry about it

            • Dave D says:
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              Can you tell I’ve had to bear Pujols, Gary Matthews Jr., Josh Hamilton, Justin Upton… Rendon is fine for another 3 years I think, but then sh*t probably goes Pujols like it always does for LAA fans…

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Haha, I was gonna say…All indications are Pujols will finish his contract some day…No one knows quite when…Maybe 2025?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d move mountains if I were the Mets to get Lindor, sending Gimenez, if I had to…Which would be great for Gimenez too, prolly best scenario for him

      • Cram It says:
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        Yup, I want Lindor. I don’t care what the contract is. It’d be a change for us signing a star actually in his prime, as opposed to past his prime.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, exactly… Figure out the mess of having a star past his prime when he gets past his prime in 5 years

          • Pujols was traded at 32…Lindor won’t be 32 for 5 years…

            Imagine being the Mets new owner and having the ability to sign someone like Lindor and NOT doing it?

            There is an incorrect assumption that a player has to perform until their last year of a long contract in order to justify it…they don’t…it’s an illusion

            They just have to do more good than harm for it to be a win. This would be an easy win.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, agreed, I want Lindor if I’m the Mets (or any team)…

              • Wake Up says:
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                You guys our nerds!

                This is his niece.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I’ve never met a niece I didn’t like

  2. Smitty says:
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    Had just moved Gimenez up to my Adames, Berti, McMahon grouping. and ahead of the fading Rosario who seems to have forgotten how to swipe a bag. We’ll see how the spring shakes out, but Mets need to break the glass and pull out all the stops.
    Another subject, besides the usual N. Cruz, Y. Alvarez, Ohtani, and K. Davis’ listed at DH, I’m seeing JD Martinez, Soler, Stanton, F. Reyes, W. Calhoun, Encarnacion as DH onlys. Where can I find position eligibility for 2021? Guess the 20 games at a position requirement has led to the additional dudes at DH. Will need to adjust my thinking a bit.
    BTW – I’m in for early DC if we can start day after Turkey Day – have a great day

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I do a position eligib. chart, but haven’t yet…Not sure where to get it right now…That is a lot of DH only if that list is right…

      We can start on Friday after Thanksgiving if that works for people…I have to get signups going, maybe will get it going tomorrow

      • VinWins

        VinWins says:
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        What do you want, 5 games? 5, 10, 20?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Five games started, 10 games played

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            So, Yahoo rules (I think this is Yahoo rules, correct me if I’m wrong)

          • VinWins

            VinWins says:
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            Have you ever found that? Baseball Reference just seems to give games played. Unless I’m missing it.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Sad to admit, I think I jot down all players who play in 5 games, then weed out the ones that don’t start in that many…Maybe this year I’ll just grab everyone who plays in 10 games, and if Yahoo has some weird ones so be it

              • VinWins

                VinWins says:
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                They do have GS, just not by position. I thought I must have something wrong because it seems nobody started more than 60 games.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Haha, Vin, ACKSUALLY Starling Marte started 61 games

                  • VinWins

                    VinWins says:
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                    It says he played 61, but started 60. And I assume you don’t want DH separate.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ah, maybe he did only play in 61 — I remember them saying they were sending his cap to the HOF like 61 games was some kind of feat

      • Dave D says:
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        That works for me. Black Friday drafting.

  3. jayj says:
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    Enough Sp for 16 man dynasty? or too light

    Maeda, Montas, Sixto, Stroman, grffin canning. What kind of sp do i need if so.
    Very good RP to compensate currently.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have plenty, I’d just find some cheap IP on less than sexy guys to fill backend of staff

  4. Squat Cobblers says:
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    Good stuff Fantasy Master Lothario, don’t abbrev!

    Definitely like the upside…but the price in DC is too high at the moment given lack of PT clarity.
    It’s obviously early, but his ADP is 190. Someone like Madrigal at pick 178 seems safer.

    Would love to get Gimenez after pick 250 cause he’s someone that could win a league.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks, SC!

      Agree with you, right now I’m not drafting Gimenez above 200

  5. Squat Cobblers says:
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    Having a tough time figuring this out Grey. The following are roughly two years’ worth of stats: Early June 2018 through the end of this shortened 2020 season.

    Early ADP – Playa – PA – R – HR – RBI – SB – BA
    12 Christian Yelich 1274, 222, 85, 203, 50, .309
    1 Ronald Acuna Jr. 1275, 232, 76, 181, 59, .282
    11 Trevor Story 1330, 213, 72, 182, 57, .302
    5 Mike Trout 1193, 204, 83, 193, 24, .297
    3 Mookie Betts 1353, 259, 60, 162, 43, .307
    17 Cody Bellinger 1303, 207, 76, 196, 33, .284
    4 Juan Soto 1303, 220, 67, 211, 22, .294
    8 Trea Turner 1312, 213, 44, 149, 74, .295

    Any ideas for why Yelich, Story and Bellinger aren’t getting more respect in early drafts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Bellinger and Story should be…I think people don’t trust Story bc of health, and Cody bc of swing changes last year that didn’t do him well — Yelich is trickier bc he was miserable last year and coming off surgery

      • Squat Cobblers says:
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        Makes sense. Do you think Yelich will be 100% by opening day?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d guess so, but his 100% might only be 90% where he was

          • Squat Cobblers says:
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            He’s going to be a tough one for me since he’s still in his prime and has produced the best fantasy stat totals over the last 2 years (324 games or so.)
            I guess his team around him sucks but I could say the same for pre-2020 Trout and he still got his.
            The order that I put them above is the order that these players would be ranked based on their 650 PA averages.
            Barring recurring injuries, I think I will prefer picks 10-15 in NFBC this year. Story at 11, Yelich at 12 OR Belli at 17….combined with a Bichette/Machado/Harper OR Mondesi at pick 2 ….should be a nice start for The Squat Cobblers!!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I haven’t dug in yet on Yelich, but it feels like a buying opportunity…Was a top 3 guy easy for a few years, then 60 random games kills him? Feels premature, but again I have to look further

  6. Macuzo says:
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    Great post Grey, I was wondering, by trading Lindor, will Cleveland give a shot on Freeman? what are your thoughts on heriberto? should Texas be a little more aggressive on his development?. I mean Washington and Atlanta sent soto and acuna directly to rookie league, gulf coast i think it is. Well it seems heriberto played ARL at he age of 19 and he played another rookie level league DSl at 18. what do yo think is Texas ‘ Criteria? on sending a player with such a talent to rookie leagues 2 years straight.

  7. LenFuego says:
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    Cano suspension clears 2B for the Mets as well as $24 million salary saved. The plot thickens.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yes, indeed…But Lindor’s still on table, so we’ll see

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        And Rosario, maybe, who knows

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