There’s a few categories of rookies. One category of rookies is guys who could be extremely valuable if they get an everyday job out of Spring Training — your Wander Francos, your Royce Lewises, your Brendan Rodgerses (Rodgerii? Rodge on rye?). Then there’s another category of guys who will actually have a starting job but might not excite you with huge upside — your Luis Garcias, your Ryan Jefferses, your Andres Gimenezes (Gim Z’ers?). At least Andres Gimenez appears to be in the latter group. But, and, please allow Reversal Question Man to ask it — IS HE?! I hear that, RQM. Andres Gimenez last year went 22/3/12/.263/8 in 118 ABs. Casually, without much fanfare, I’m just going to muffle Mr. Prorater and do it myself:  Across 162 games that’s a statline of 100/15/60/.270/40. Oh, I’m sorry, are you gorgeous? Or am I mistaking you for someone else? No…*puts on sunglasses*…you are gorgeous. Now, let’s get out of here. *takes Gimenez’s 162-game prorated stats out of this honkeytonk bar, jumps in my Sebring and peels out of the parking lot, just as we hit the open road, I turn away from Gimenez’s 162-prorated stats and look at Carter Kieboom’s upside, and Gimenez’s 162-prorated stats smack me* What? I just wanted to see what Kieboom could do, you know I love you. Don’t be mad! So, what can we expect from Andres Gimenez for 2021 fantasy baseball?

Don’t want to make our Mets readers horny, but what if the Mets trade for Francisco Lindor? What if they don’t trade for Lindor? What if they trade Andres Gimenez to Cleveland? Well, in any of those scenarios, Gimenez plays from Jump Street. In the latter–Well, it’s actually the third scenario, so the lattest scenario? Yeah, in the lattest scenario on the Indians, Gimenez definitely plays. No way he gets traded somewhere like that and doesn’t play. If Lindor is in Queens with Gimenez, Andres moves to 2nd and platoons with Cano. If Andres remains in New York with no Lindor, he plays short. Tut-tut-tut, what about Amed Rosario? Okay, the infield is jammed, but I have to think Gimenez sees at least 75% of starts. For fantasy, playing time is near the top of my wants. My wantiest?

Last year, Gimenez had a 5.3% BB/9 and 21.2% K%. Not exceptional on the walks, not even near league average, but the strikeouts are actually better than league average, and his percentages of balls swung at outside and inside the zone were close to league average. He was getting pretty beat by the curve last year, and pounding the fastball and change. Basically, if you sit dead-red, Gimenez will get ya. In conclusion, his average won’t be bad. Doesn’t walk, doesn’t strikeout (much), hits fastballs. Check, check, fine, .265-75 with neutral luck.

How about that power? He had a 13.5 Launch Angle, 10% HR/FB and 33.7% fly ball rate, while pulling a majority of balls in play. He can power out 8-12 homers next year, and maybe 15-17 in his prime. Not a big power guy, but he has 60 grade wheels, and loves to run even if it’s into outs. I could see him being limited depending on what a manager wants to do. Luis Rojas seemed fine running, and Gimenez was only caught once last year, but the year before he had a hideous caught stealing percentage in Double-A. Maybe he figured out that part of his game. Or maybe it was 60 games in a weird season and pitchers and catchers didn’t care if Gimenez ran. I could see either being accurate. I want to believe Gimenez is good for 30+ bags, as his speed says he should be, but I also see a guy who might steal 18 bags while being caught ten times. To recap the last 37 words, he was around top 20 in the league in Sprint Speed, and I worry he might get a red light. So, wide range of outcomes is sadly in his most productive category. That’s a concern. How’sever, he should be cheap eh eff in drafts, so what the hey? To give you an idea of how good things could be, Steamer projects Gimenez for nine homers and 16 steals in only 352 ABs. If he can get to 550 ABs, we’re talking a possible 15/25 guy. Yummers! For 2021, I’ll give Andres Gimenez projections of 51/11/58/.268/19 in 397 ABs with a chance for more.

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LenFuego
LenFuego
2 years ago

Cano suspension clears 2B for the Mets as well as $24 million salary saved. The plot thickens.

Macuzo
2 years ago

Great post Grey, I was wondering, by trading Lindor, will Cleveland give a shot on Freeman? what are your thoughts on heriberto? should Texas be a little more aggressive on his development?. I mean Washington and Atlanta sent soto and acuna directly to rookie league, gulf coast i think it is. Well it seems heriberto played ARL at he age of 19 and he played another rookie level league DSl at 18. what do yo think is Texas ‘ Criteria? on sending a player with such a talent to rookie leagues 2 years straight.

Squat Cobblers
Squat Cobblers
2 years ago

Having a tough time figuring this out Grey. The following are roughly two years’ worth of stats: Early June 2018 through the end of this shortened 2020 season.

Early ADP – Playa – PA – R – HR – RBI – SB – BA
12 Christian Yelich 1274, 222, 85, 203, 50, .309
1 Ronald Acuna Jr. 1275, 232, 76, 181, 59, .282
11 Trevor Story 1330, 213, 72, 182, 57, .302
5 Mike Trout 1193, 204, 83, 193, 24, .297
3 Mookie Betts 1353, 259, 60, 162, 43, .307
17 Cody Bellinger 1303, 207, 76, 196, 33, .284
4 Juan Soto 1303, 220, 67, 211, 22, .294
8 Trea Turner 1312, 213, 44, 149, 74, .295

Any ideas for why Yelich, Story and Bellinger aren’t getting more respect in early drafts?

Squat Cobblers
Squat Cobblers
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Makes sense. Do you think Yelich will be 100% by opening day?

Squat Cobblers
Squat Cobblers
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

He’s going to be a tough one for me since he’s still in his prime and has produced the best fantasy stat totals over the last 2 years (324 games or so.)
I guess his team around him sucks but I could say the same for pre-2020 Trout and he still got his.
The order that I put them above is the order that these players would be ranked based on their 650 PA averages.
Barring recurring injuries, I think I will prefer picks 10-15 in NFBC this year. Story at 11, Yelich at 12 OR Belli at 17….combined with a Bichette/Machado/Harper OR Mondesi at pick 2 ….should be a nice start for The Squat Cobblers!!

Squat Cobblers
Squat Cobblers
2 years ago

Good stuff Fantasy Master Lothario, don’t abbrev!

Definitely like the upside…but the price in DC is too high at the moment given lack of PT clarity.
It’s obviously early, but his ADP is 190. Someone like Madrigal at pick 178 seems safer.

Would love to get Gimenez after pick 250 cause he’s someone that could win a league.

jayj
jayj
2 years ago

Enough Sp for 16 man dynasty? or too light

Maeda, Montas, Sixto, Stroman, grffin canning. What kind of sp do i need if so.
Very good RP to compensate currently.

Smitty
2 years ago

Had just moved Gimenez up to my Adames, Berti, McMahon grouping. and ahead of the fading Rosario who seems to have forgotten how to swipe a bag. We’ll see how the spring shakes out, but Mets need to break the glass and pull out all the stops.
Another subject, besides the usual N. Cruz, Y. Alvarez, Ohtani, and K. Davis’ listed at DH, I’m seeing JD Martinez, Soler, Stanton, F. Reyes, W. Calhoun, Encarnacion as DH onlys. Where can I find position eligibility for 2021? Guess the 20 games at a position requirement has led to the additional dudes at DH. Will need to adjust my thinking a bit.
BTW – I’m in for early DC if we can start day after Turkey Day – have a great day

VinWins
VinWins
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

What do you want, 5 games? 5, 10, 20?

VinWins
VinWins
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Have you ever found that? Baseball Reference just seems to give games played. Unless I’m missing it.

VinWins
VinWins
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

They do have GS, just not by position. I thought I must have something wrong because it seems nobody started more than 60 games.

VinWins
VinWins
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

It says he played 61, but started 60. And I assume you don’t want DH separate.

Dave D
Dave D
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

That works for me. Black Friday drafting.

Dave D
Dave D
2 years ago

I think you hit the nail on the head. The talent is there on Gimenez but between a potential trade for Lindor, and Rosario around, PT could be an issue. No doubt Lindor gets traded, and we are talking the Mets so… an aging SS would be good for them to trade for and signe to a 10-year $300 extension. Perhaps the new owner is smarter though?

LaRockakis
LaRockakis
Reply to  Dave D
2 years ago

Aging or hitting his prime?

Dave D
Dave D
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Dont get me wrong, Lindor would be a great pick up at age 27 for the next 4 years, but the Mets, like my Angels, would tack on another half-decade of declining value at maximum cost.

Dave D
Dave D
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Can you tell I’ve had to bear Pujols, Gary Matthews Jr., Josh Hamilton, Justin Upton… Rendon is fine for another 3 years I think, but then sh*t probably goes Pujols like it always does for LAA fans…

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yup, I want Lindor. I don’t care what the contract is. It’d be a change for us signing a star actually in his prime, as opposed to past his prime.

Wake Up
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Pujols was traded at 32…Lindor won’t be 32 for 5 years…

Imagine being the Mets new owner and having the ability to sign someone like Lindor and NOT doing it?

There is an incorrect assumption that a player has to perform until their last year of a long contract in order to justify it…they don’t…it’s an illusion

They just have to do more good than harm for it to be a win. This would be an easy win.

Wake Up
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

You guys our nerds!

This is his niece.