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I think this is the part of the article where I mention something about Mets starting pitching, and then something else about elbow injuries. Let’s check those two boxes right from the gate, and talk about how boring any, and all homegrown Mets hitters are. When was the last time the Mets produced a bat that wasn’t kind of boring? David Wright? Jose Reyes? Okay, okay Michael Conforto is exciting, but often for the wrong reasons. Like “I’m freaking excited to not own Michael Conforto any longer.” That was you after April 30th.  The problem is none of the upcoming bats have first round fantasy upside. Nevertheless, the divide between pitching talent and hitting talent is never so evident as it is at the major league level. The lineup is littered with talent acquired in trades and free agent mercenaries. While the rotation runs 7 deep with major league starters from within the organization. The stats bear this out too, as good as the Mets were at preventing runs (ranking third in 2016 in team ERA), were as bad as they were at scoring them (ranking 25th in runs scored). Maybe some of that’s park aided or maybe some of it’s talent. While the light (and I use that term lightly) at the end of the tunnel, is still more than likely a year or two away, there are some bats progressing through the system that should be on fantasy owners radar’s. Players like Amed Rosario, Dominic Smith, and Brandon Nimmo all offer fantasy impact (to varying degrees) in the next two years.  However, true to form the best talent lies in the pitching ranks, with the highest upside prospects coming in the form of pitchers like Justin Dunn and Thomas Szapucki. I certainly wouldn’t rank Amazin’s system in the top 10, but they’re in the top half, and that’s better than being the Marlins. Enough of the lead-in, hop into the post, and learn why I’m moderately enthused about the Top New York Mets Prospects.

 

Tier 1: Specs On The Beach
Potential stars. Consensus T100 prospects with premium fantasy ceilings.

Amed Rosario, SS | Age: 21 | ETA: 2018 | 2016 Level: AA/A+

Rosario was a youth teammate of Nomar Mazara when he signed for $1.75 million out of the DR in 2012. He was the first signing of scouting director Chris Becerra’s reign, and so far he looks to be a great one. He’s impressed throughout his pro career first in the Appy league in 2013, followed by the New York-Penn League in 2014 and the Florida State and Eastern League over the last two years. I saw a little of Rosario this year with AA Binghamton, and the easy right handed swing, and plus bat speed, stick out. While I don’t see him evolving into a 20/20 threat, I do see him with low to mid-teens power, and 20 or so steals in his high seasons. His carrying offensive tool is his ability to hit for average, which plays up due to his speed. His fielding might already be Gold Glove caliber, meaning he’s got no chance of moving off the position. Over the last year plus his approach and his eye have improved, meaning he’s not far off from Flushing. I’d be shocked if he’s not the Mets everyday shortstop opening day of 2018. Should see some time in New York, at the end of 2017.

Dominic Smith, 1B | Age: 21 | ETA: 2018 | 2016 Level: AA

Always knocked as a hit tool only guy with no power since going 11th overall in the 2013 draft, Smith has made slight power gains over the last two years, boosting his overall stock. The recipient of the always lazy James Loney comp, Smith was the MVP of the Florida State league hitting .305/.354/.417 in 2015. He followed that up with a strong year in AA, finishing third in the Eastern League in hits, and RBIs, while posting career best ISO (.155), slugging (.457), and home run (14) totals. He’s still only 21, so there could be more power to come, particularity with his keen eye and advanced approach to hitting. While I don’t forsee 30 home run years in Smith’s future he could be a .280/20/85 player with extra value in OBP leagues. I should probably mention he’s a thick through the middle big-bodied guy, listed at 250 LBS, but he’s not sloppy, and plays a solid first base. Closing statement: The bat is legit.

Robert Gsellman, RHP | Age: 23 | ETA: 2017 | 2016 Level: MLB/AAA/AA

One of my favorite rookie picthers entering 2017, was a bit overlooked heading into last season. Gsellman’s game starts with his elite groundball numbers, generating a 56% GB rate across all levels last year, and a 55% in his 44 innings in the majors. His fastball sits 93-96, with plus sink and good movement. This pitch in particular generates weak contact in bunches. His K per stuff took a giant step forward last season due to an overall improvement in his secondary offerings. He throws an above-average curveball, an average changeup, and a fringe slider. One of Gsellman’s greatest strengths is his ability to get ahead in counts, throwing first pitch strikes 61% of the time. He also does a good job of getting batters to chase out of the zone (30.5% O-Swing), while also swinging at a lot of pitches in it (68.6%). Couple his swinging strike rate (9.1%), with his groundball numbers, and you get someone generating weak contact, as well as swings and misses in and out of the strike-zone. This tells me Gsellman, is controlling at bats more often than not, which is a great indicator of long term success. Has a back end starter floor with Kyle Hendricks upside.

Justin Dunn, RHP | Age: 21 | ETA: 2019 | 2016 Level: A-

Straight out of Freeport, Long Island, the hometown of hypeman extraordinaire and reality show luminary Flavor Flav comes Justin Dunn. The 19th overall pick in this June’s draft was Boston College’s closer until the final two months of the season. Then Dunn was moved to the rotation, where he made 8 strong starts, and never looked back. His loose athletic delivery and live arm saw him rise up draft boards, but the questions remain if he’ll ultimately progress as a starter. His plus fastball and slider mix looks a lot like an elite pen 1-2 punch, Dunn’s future role will be determined by his fringe change or curve developing into an average major league offering. While his fastball works mid-upper 90’s, it’s his slider with good vertical break and tight spin that’s his bread and butter. Many scouts have dubbed it the best slider in the system. His returns through 30 pro innings in the short season New York-Penn League have been good, as he posted a line of 1-1 with a 1.50 ERA a 10.5 K/9, and a 3.0 Bb/9. I’d expect he gets a full season assignment to the Florida State League out of camp, with a chance to make some late season starts with AA Binghamton.

Tier 2: Floorboreds
Lacking the “star” upside. They might have some warts, but their ETAs are on the horizon.

Brandon Nimmo, OF | Age: 23 | ETA: 2017 | 2016 Level: MLB/AAA

The pride of Wyoming, as Nimmo is the only prep player to ever be drafted out of the state. I threw around some hyperbole about Nimmo on the recent episode of the Razzball Prospect Podcast, where I dubbed him a future batting title contender. When I watch him that’s what I see, and his recent numbers do nothing to dissuade that notion. In fact last year in the PCL he slashed .351/.424/.545 in AAA Las Vegas, missing the batting title by .001 of a point. He’s been an on base machine throughout his professional career, highlighted by his 12.3% career walk rate across all levels. Despite owning the 5th highest slugging in the PCL, his power is middling, but could improve should he get more aggressive early in counts. From a batted ball perspective he hit’s a lot of grounders, 48% to be exact, but his LD% of 23 is very solid. Looks like a solid future 2 hole hitter with batting title upside.

Peter Alonso, 1B | Age: 22 | ETA: 2019 | 2016 Level: A-

We spoke in depth about Alonso on the podcast this week, as he was a favorite sleeper of myself and Halp coming out of the draft. Oh hey, what do you know, I listed him as a sleeper way back in my 2016 Draft Sleepers post in early September. He’s a power hitter in the mold of A.J. Reed (also a 2nd rounder), in that he doesn’t possess a super quick bat, but makes up for it with caveman strength, and advanced approach. He was one of the more underrated players on last year’s stacked Florida Gators squad, and followed up a strong collegiate career with a good first run through proball, slashing .321/.386/.586 with 5 homers in 109 at bats. Alonso crushes lefthanded pitching, setting his floor as powerful platoon bat, but I think the Mets hope he can develop into an everyday first baseman to compete with Dom Smith.

Wuilmer Becerra, OF | Age: 22 | ETA: 2018 | 2016 Level: A+

The power outage in 2016 after a strong full season debut in 2015 is concerning on it’s face. But he was plagued by recovery from a shoulder injury, which could be the culprit for the reduced pop. When healthy he offers a decent power-speed profile, so he’s worth holding if you’re a Becerra owner.

Marcos Molina, RHP | Age: 21 | ETA: 2018 | 2016 Level: N/A

After good early returns through his first three professional seasons, Molina missed all of 2016 after going under the knife for TJ. When right he offers three above average or better pitches led by his plus fastball, mixed with an above average slider and change. Prior to his injury his control was also above-average, he’s just Mr. Above Average!! One thing, if I may rant for a second. Rant** Hey scouts we need a better description than above average, it sounds like a halfhearted attempt by a girlfriend to make her boyfriend fell less self conscious. It’s supposed to be good!! let’s fix this!! End Rant** He returned to the mound this fall in Arizona, and the results were mediocre. Here’s to hoping a full off-season and camp can help Molina get back on track. An excellent buy low candidate in deeper dynasty leagues.

Gavin Cecchini, SS | Age: 23 | ETA: 2017 | 2016 Level: MLB/AAA

I’m asleep and I haven’t even started writing up Cecchini yet. He’s as floor-boring as they come, a hit tool player with no real power or speed, though he does have a little of each. The younger brother of AAAA superstar Garin Cecchini, has had his own bouts with the overrating bug, having gone 12th overall in the 2012 draft. Not a strong defender, should move off the position and end up a future second baseman with not a lot of fantasy relevant tools.

Others: Jhoan Urena, Gabriel Ynoa, Tomas Nido, David Thompson, Eudor Garcia

Tier 3: Long Shot Lolitas
Sexy ceilings, but these youngsters also come with risks and distant ETAs

Thomas Szapucki, LHP | Age: 20 | ETA: 2019 | 2016 Level: A-

The 2015 5th round pick looks like a steal, which is exactly what the Mets needed after foolishly throwing away their first rounder in that draft for a .259/.309/.391 line from Michael Cuddyer. Due to wonky mechanics there’s lots of pen risk, but the stuff is phenomenal. There’s three plus pitches with his mid-90’s fastball leading the charge, his offspeed stuff features two plus breaking pitches in his slider and curveball, with the slider being the best of the two. However the curve is no slouch, as I’ve seen it described by scouts as the best in the Mets system. His fastball works well to both sides of the plate generating a solid amount of groundball contact (46% last year). However his ability to miss bats (41% strikeout rate) is what sets him apart from the pack. After adjusting his arm slot in 2015 instructs to a ¾ delivery, his results boosted, evident by his 1.38 ERA in 9 starts between rookie league and SS NYPL. Unfortunately Szapucki was shutdown toward the end of the season due to a back issue. If he’s able to stay healthy and meet his immense promise, we could be looking at the next Mets ace.

Desmond Lindsey, OF | Age: 20 | ETA: 2019 | 2016 Level: A-/Rk

The other pick Mets fans hope can make the Cuddyer mistake a distant memory. After going in the 2nd round of the 2015 draft, Lindsey was considered a bit of a steal after missing his senior year with hamstring issues (which popped up again in 16). He presents a fantasy baseball players dream skillset with power, speed, and hit tool. Lindsey’s ceiling is the highest among hitters in the system. His 19.2% K rate, and 16% Bb rate in 102 at bats show he’s polished for such a toolsy youngster. Scouts and reports from those inside the Mets front office laud his strong make-up and work ethic. The downside is the reoccurring soft tissue injuries at a young age, not good for a player whose upside is dependent upon athleticism.

Anthony Kay, LHP | Age: 21 | ETA: 2020 | 2016 Level: N/A

Anthony Kay is like if Marcos Molina’s blurb had a baby with Justin Dunn’s blurb, but came out a white guy in a UConn t-shirt and just baffled the shizz out of everyone. He’s another Long Island native, because the Mets made a bet with Rakim and R.A. The Rugged Man that they could only take pitchers from L.I in the first round this year. Now they got themselves another TJ survivor, I guess getting it out of the way before they become major league stars is the new thing in Flushing. Not a bad strategy. He’s a control pitcher with an above-average fastball, change, and fringe slider.

Andres Gimenez, SS | Age: 18 | ETA: 2020 | 2016 Level: DSL

Just turned 18 back in September, but is one to dream on in the Mets system. He offers tons of upside from a fantasy perspective with hit tool, speed, and developing power. He’s a long ways away, but he slashed .350/.469/.523 with 4 homers and 13 steals over 62 Dominican Summer League games.

Harol Gonzalez, RHP | Age: 21 | ETA: 2019 | 2016 Level: A-

We talked extensively about Gonzalez on the podcast last weekend, and he’s another favorite of Halp and myself. A control over stuff guy, Gonzalez excels as a pitchability guy. He’s one of the most overlooked Mets prospects hardly cracking many prospector’s system rankings over the past few seasons. It might be the bias toward small righties, because the production screams good prospect. In 85 innings in the short season New York-Penn League Gonzalez went 7-3 with a 2.01 ERA, a 9.32 K/9 to a 1.8 Bb/9. Good god, that’s sexy! But wait, it gets better. Gonzalez’s true skill is generating groundballs, in fact in 2016 he owned a 56% groundball rate. Doode is a stud how’s MLB.com not going to rank this guys? Here’s one to buy and one that’s off so many radars you should be able to scoop him very late in minors drafts.

Others: Luis Carpio, Milton Ramos, Merandy Gonzalez, Ali Sanchez, Gregory Guerrero

 

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  1. Another Dan says:
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    Excellent stuff again Ralph. Much appreciated.

    Are you feeling more bullish about Justin Dunn ? you had him down at 39 in your first year player rankings, but he’s sunbathing in glasses now.

    Is he above the like of Wentz, Manning, Hudson, Whitley, Garrett now ? or does his unknown future role devalue him?

    Dan

    FYI :
    FYPD results so far
    1.3 (upgraded from 1.8 via trade) Senzel
    2.2 (acquired via trade) Collins

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Another Dan: I probably under ranked him a little in my first year player draft. The way I do my rankings is less of a straight rank, and more dropping of players into certain boxes. I think Dunn will be on a lot of top 100 lists. I prefer Szapucki to him, but I doubt he’s on many top 100’s.

      I’d still prefer all of those arms, his moving up is more him jumping ahead of some bats.

      You got Collins that late? Holy moly

      • Another Dan says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz:

        Thanks. Gives me a few arms to target later in the draft. My milb roster only has 1 arm at present (Paulino), need to add a few more.

        It’s only a 12 teamer so 2.2 was pick 14. Plus we had J2 signings (Gourriel x 2, Morejon, Maitan went before Collins) and Maeda and Oh were draft eligible since they missed last years deadline.

        I’ve got 2.8 as well, so I’m up soon and am targeting an arm. Then 3.8, 4.8 and 5.8. Am thinking Quinn with 3.8 and Dalbec might fall to 4.8.

        There might be a few players I like left after the 5 rounds. I might have to make some space on my milb roster. Lucius Fox ever going to be a starting SS?

        Thanks again,

        Dan

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Another Dan: Sounds like a plan, is Juan Soto owned? He’s a good one to snag in these drafts.

          I think he can, or maybe a solid CF option, he’s far off.

  2. kenly0 says:
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    Thanks for everything. I need a little help picking a couple of prospects to protect. We can protect 8 prospects from 2 teams. My 2 teams are the Red Sox and Yankees. Torres and Frazier are already on other rosters and I have Sanchez, Judge, and Benintendi already on my big league roster. I plan on protecting Rutherford, Mateo, Kaprielian, Sheffield, Devers, and Groome. I’m having a hard time picking my last 2. Could you rank these guys for me. Positions don’t matter, but I’d prefer to use these last 2 spots on guys that wI’ll be up no later than 2018.

    Chance Adams
    Dustin Fowler
    Domingo Acevedo
    D. Tate
    J. Montgomery
    M. Andujar
    Albert Abreu
    B. McKinney
    Sam Travis

    I’m leaning towards Travis and Acevedo. Once again, thanks for all the hard work. Love you guys

    • Ralph Lifshitz

      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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      @kenly0: Abreu, Acevedo, Adams, Travis, Fowler, Tate, Andujar.

      I like Abreu and Acevedo you could go with any of the top 5 and they’re all about equal.

      Thanks!

    • jariax says:
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      @kenly0:

      I would take Andujar over any of the others.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @jariax: Why? He seems like an average third baseman.

  3. Hometown Heroes says:
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    Great stuff as always. Trade question for you. 12 team AL only league I give up Tim Anderson $1(3 yrs), Hyun soo Kim $1(2 yrs) and Rodon $1(1 yr) and I get Correa $16(3 yrs). Seems like a no brainer but Im worried Anderson could be a stud

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Hometown Heroes:
      Anderson COULD be stud…Correa IS a stud..Take Correa.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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      @Malicious Phenoms: No @Hometown Heroes: Yeah you take that trade, no way Anderson gets to that level. He’s good and an exciting player but he doesn’t have 1.1 ability Correa has that.

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz:
        Huh? no what? lol

  4. goodfold2 says:
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    where would these guys rank when compared to each other:
    almanzar SD, nova HOU, arrozarena STL (these 3 in your top 55 1st year), tatis SD, tejada TEX, long CIN, galindo CUBS. probably going P/MI or MI/P coming up here soon. lists have gotten close enough to go team needs time over marginal gains in overall player value.

    and i knew you were high on gsellman, but didn’t think he’d be living on the beach. wow.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @goodfold2: Almanzar (highest upside), Tejeda, Long, Galindo,Nova, Arrozarena, and Tatis..

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @goodfold2: He should be a top 100 guy. These aren’t rankings as much as they are a statement of keeper/dynasty value. Who cares where I rank I guy, you care how the general consensus views a player. Gsellman has the ability to be a top 30 starter in 2017, that’s in re-draft. He’s also only 23 and has sustainable skills.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: oh i know beach are top 100’s (and would’ve believed due to that ranking you meant a top 30 SP at some point), and i get that these are about the dynasty value. that’s what makes this quite amazing since this guy’s movement from last year (even last june). he was listed as swingman/back of rotation (still is in some spots) everywhere. last year BA had him as a 50, so that’s probably highest from a last year ranking.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @goodfold2: Yeah his breakout looks legit.

  5. zaphrodesiac says:
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    Sounds like Melky is a pretty good comp for Nimmo. *WOOHOOO*

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @zaphrodesiac: Yeah not a bad comp, but doesn’t walk enough to be Nimmo.

  6. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Ralph! What are your thoughts on Degrom for 2017 and onward?

    Also, in OBP/OPS leagues (no avg) – do you see much of a distinction between Turner and Villar? Turner obviously is the better overall player, but Villar has that sneaky pop and a much better BB rate, and should come much cheaper – particularly since many people don’t realize that Villar’s had this basic skillset all along (just had a full time job and some BABIP luck last year).

    • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Related question – I was offered in a keeper league (+$3/yr, this one tracks AVG only, not OBP) my $30 Kershaw for a $4 Villar and $18 Darvish. Thoughts?

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: The other offer still standing is Kershaw for $20 Kluber and $9 Desmond

        • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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          @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: And as long as I’ve already messed up this reply chain a bit, the FINAL offer I’ve received is Kershaw for $12 Degrom and $10 JD Mart (plus if I wanted a $3 VMart or $7 Buxton, but I would then need to keep that 3rd piece over a $10 Dahl).

          Sorry for the add ons! [all done!]

          • Ralph Lifshitz

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            @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: deGrom makes me too nervous, I wouldn’t do that. Though deGrom, JD, and Buxton is tempting. I like that better than the Kluber offer.

            As for the deGrom question I missed, I think it comes down to health. He makes 28+ starts then I love him.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: I think I take that, you’re getting two very good players and saving $8 which should buy you another player. Good value in a budget league.

        • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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          @Ralph Lifshitz: Thanks a lot, Ralph! Appreciate you drudging through my replies on replies. Sounds like Villar and Darvish is the winne!.

          Before accepting it, I may try getting the JD owner to replace degrom with an $11 Carrasco (and throwing in Bux). I also may try getting the Kluber owner to replace Desmond with Votto ($23).

          Great analysis on Villar/Turner. Very helpful for my new keeper OBP league drafting (my sense is Villar will be the forgotten guy and Turner will be the target of everyone).

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: I think they’re probably equal in many ways. I like Turner more than Villar, because I think there’s more upside with Turner. Villar can’t be better than he was in 2016. Year to year, Turner should hit for a higher average, and get on base more. The power and speed for each is about equal. If Villar is going a round or two after Turner he presents better overall value, and therefore I’d own Villar over Turner.

      If we’re talking about who’s a better player it TT. Just examine their batted ball profiles. Turner has a great LD% at 25% while Villar’s is an average 20% with a GB rate of 55%. While I want my speedseter to hit balls on the ground 55% is too high for my liking. What I’m getting at is the skills are the same but Turner makes better contact.

    • Slashline Criminal says:
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      I don’t know about “much cheaper”. TT went 14 and Villar 24 overall in a draft I just did. Both a bit $$ for me… As Raalph said, better value one round later for similar skill set, but I don’t know how much value you get shooting for the moon in the first two rounds, IMO.

  7. Clint says:
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    I noticed in the podcast and here you seem to have left off the most famous prospect to play minor league baseball since Michael Jordan in Timothy Richard Tebow? For shame.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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      @Clint: Haha when he decides to commit to baseball I’ll think about him. Until then he’s a sideshow.

    • Halp

      Halp says:
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      @Clint: haha … I can honestly say Tebow didn’t even cross my mind when I was thinking about Mets prospects, and that kinda makes me happy

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Halp: Same here.

        • Clint says:
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          @Ralph Lifshitz:
          Oh come on guys! Tebow’s podcast gold. GOLD Jerry!

          • Ralph Lifshitz

            Ralph Lifshitz says:
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            @Clint: That’s like taking on Beyonce or Bieber. I’m not dealing with the Tebow contingent.

    • Mobin Can't Hack It says:
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      @Clint: they mentioned him in a podcast and it was embarrassing they even thought they had to (it was clear they felt this way too) just from it being in the news. he was mentioned as an offseason update, not as a NYM prospect, since clearly ALL the people mentioned above are projected to be worth more than tebow ever will in baseball.

  8. Tweak says:
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    For Mets batting prospects, Nimmo is probably my favorite, but as a real life prospect rather than a fantasy one. He also tapped into a bit of power this past season, so here’s hoping that holds up.

    For the life of me, I just don’t understand why the Rockies and Mets haven’t really lined up on a deal yet. The Rockies’ system is full of bats and there’s no way a pitcher goes to Colorado in free agency. With the groundball numbers you list for Gsellman, he’d be a perfect fit. The Mets need offense.

    Also, around where do you see Dom Smith’s ceiling? If the lazy comp is Loney, the upside could be a Hosmer?

    Lastly, never again will I bite on a prospect named Alonso.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Tweak: I own too many Gsellman shares to be okay with this. Even if it’s 100% logical. Don’t kill my Gseie!

      I think he’s a lot like Hosmer with his approach, but he hits the ball in the air more often and harder than Hosmer. Hosmer hits a stupid amount of grounders. I think he’s more like Jose Abreu with a little less power.

      Ha! Peter should come cheaper and with less hype.

  9. The JoGarza says:
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    Hey Ralph, could you rank your the top 10 from this group with a bias toward OBP for the batters? All are available in my upcoming prospect draft and I’m having some trouble sorting them out before aggregate prospect lists come out.

    Wladimir Galindo
    Dinelson Lamet
    Dustin May
    Walker Buehler
    Will Benson
    Brandon Woodruff
    Desmond Lindsay
    Leody Taveras
    Sandy Alcantara
    Aristides Aquino
    Joe Jimenez
    Oscar de la Cruz
    Fernando Romero
    Garrett Stubbs
    Taylor Trammell
    Anfernee Grier
    Monte Harrison

    • Ralph Lifshitz

      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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      @The JoGarza: Leody Taveras, Walker Buehler, Taylor Trammell, Desmond Lindsey, Brandon Woodruff, Oscar De La Cruz, Will Benson, Aquino, Galindo, Grier, Stubb, Alcantara, Jimenez, Lamet, Harrison, May, and Romero.

      • The JoGarza says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz:

        Very eye-opening. You’re the man.

      • The JoGarza says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz:

        Quick follow up, where would you slot Joey Wentz in that list?

        • Ralph Lifshitz

          Ralph Lifshitz says:
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          @The JoGarza: After Buehler.

  10. So, a few years ago I lived 2 blocks from MCU Park, which is where the Coney Island Cyclones call home. I got a mini-season pass, and seats were first row behind home plate, adjacent to the mini Mets dugout. Think they ran around $20 bucks per, and it was a 6 game plan – how could you not, right?! My full intention was to see Amed Rosario, and get a good feel for him, as in 2014 he was already being tabbed as a future front line MLB Shortstop. Walk two blocks, spend time with the kids, and see a promising talent on the rise; Perfect summer for a Baseball diehard, and prospect hound. Funny thing was, as much as Rosario passed the eye test, there were TWO other mini Mets that were garnering all the attention. The first was Marcos Molina who was utterly dominant on the mound. I don’t mean blips, or good innings, I mean good games and stringing them together consistently. He was the best pitcher in the Penn League, starting 12 games and finishing with a 1.78 ERA!! Also had a K rate north of 10. For reference, Joe Musgrove was the second best pitcher in the league that season, and his good numbers were a distant second. At 6’3″ Molina has a great pitchers body, and will absolutely leap up charts if/when he is recovered from TJS. He is REALLY GOOD!

    Additionally, that second player was 3B Jhoan Urena. He has an infectious smile, and was the soul of that team. Still was carrying some baby fat in 2014, but was only 19. Point is, squared off stocky type with a nice lefty stroke that has natural power. I haven’t been keeping close tabs on him since, but see he has added 1B to his profile, and seems stuck at High-A. He’s still young enough that I have hope he can turn it around, because the player I saw in 2014 was definitely on the rise. Anyways, good stuff as always pal.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Andy Singleton: Thanks Andy and good stuff! I like Molina a lot, certainly in line to raise up prospects lists of he has a strong 2017.

      Yeah, looks like Urena’s star has dimmed some, you’re right though still young enough to breakout.

  11. Juan says:
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    Who is better to have now Bregman or Moncada? who will be better long run?

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Juan: Right now its Bregman, long term the potential is behind Moncada. He has the highest upside of any player under 23.

  12. Claw Dawg says:
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    Hey Ralph, great write up. Question not related to the Mets. But do you have any prospects that you think may pull an Eloy this coming year? I don’t necessarily mean guys with the exact same profile, but guys who aren’t top 100 or maybe low on lists now, that you really believe will be top 25 a year from now? I have a couple late picks in my minor league draft and am trying to make the most of it. One example that I kind of think could have a meteoric rise is Acuna. Thanks again!

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Claw Dawg: Acuna was the first one that came to mind. Another is Washington prospect Juan Soto.

      • Claw Dawg says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Yeah I’m hoping to land Acuna late, but someone ahead of me in the draft mentioned he was looking at him to I don’t have high hopes. Figured for my 5th minor leaguer I can just go young and really high upside as opposed to just a mediocre prospect thats gonna be in the majors soon. What’re your thoughts on Basabe? He looks interesting too, but I like what I see with Soto.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Claw Dawg: Oh well if Basabe is off the radar and not owned then he’s right with those guys. It’s tough to know who’s owned or not.

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            @Ralph Lifshitz: Yea its just 5 minor leaguers each in a 12 teamer so we don’t get incredibly deep. I like the potential power though with Soto.Looks like he actually could be similar to Eloy stats wise. Just further out

            • Ralph Lifshitz

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              @claw dog: I’m not sure I’d own any of those guys in a league that deep. Is someone like Tyler O’Neill already owned?

                • claw dog says:
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                  @Ralph Lifshitz: He’s not owned, but I’m almost positive he will be taken before my picks which are in the 3rd round. I already have Moncada and am looking to get Bellinger first round, so I figured I would go for someone late that could turn into a top prospect instead of taking someone mediocre that may get called up this year

  13. Big Odio says:
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    I’ve read reports about Dom smith that says he said he is taking his own approach with his hitting progression/evolution. If this is true are we seeing the hitting version of Trevor Bauer who gets all nutty? Can smith hit for power but just hasn’t chosen to make that a part of his game yet? Crazy to say it make sense. Learn how to hit well before worrying about clearing the fences.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Big Odio: I think that happens with a lot of hitters, the hit tool and the art of hitting comes first then you make adjustments for power.

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: unless your are Jon Singleton, who oddly enough has a career path like the director of the same name. Makes a big hit then just blows hot air since

        • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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          @Big Odio: You trying to say 2 Fast 2 Furious wasn’t fire?!? Blasphemous.

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: that movie was bigger than the director. Actually any moron could of made an amazing movie with Vin Diesel and fast cars…fact!

            • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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              @Ralph Lifshitz: @Big Odio: Those movies are terrible. I don’t even know if I’ve ever seen that one. I researched that, wasn’t off the top of my head.

                • Big Odio says:
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                  @Ralph Lifshitz: he watches films not movies

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: You people have no appreciation for mind numbing entertainment. The absurdity of those movies it what makes them something to see. Besides Im an old school street racer so for curiosity’s sake I had to

                • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                  @Big Odio: Please, I just binge watched all of Brooklyn 9-9. I know all about quality mind numbing entertainment.

                  And I’ve watched the majority of them. They aren’t bad enough to be funny, or good enough to be good. I also grew up driving an ’87 Accord in the 90’s so I’m no Hot Rod…..come on, 2 Andy Samberg mentions in one post.

                  • Big Odio says:
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                    @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I love the nine nine! Oh that Captain Holt….nothing wrong with Sandberg, he makes me laugh. HAHA on the 87 Accord. I had a 72 Nova that I used to run a lot and then after my 3rd race clutch I was over it but still loved the adrenaline rush of the races. Now this was before all the rice burners came onto the scene and ruined it.

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      @Big Odio: Captain Holt is the best! Too funny when he actually gets excited about something, like the Halloween episodes.

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                      @Big Odio: Oh Raymond!

          • Ralph Lifshitz

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            @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Wait, he was the Director on that flick? BTW I know I’m a coastal elitist because I hate those movies. They make me physically angry.

            • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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              @Ralph Lifshitz: And damn, I always click in the wrong order to comment back to two people at once.

            • Big Odio says:
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              @Ralph Lifshitz: you really should find things that justify anger like the economy and the final season of Lost

              • Ralph Lifshitz

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                @Big Odio: The economy? It’s not 2008 is it?

                • Big Odio says:
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                  @Ralph Lifshitz: no it isn’t but every 8 years it takes some form of a crap and we just ended 2016 and if my math is correct that means a financial crap will be taken on our chests

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Big Odio: I think we’re more into “water sports” now….;)

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Ralph Lifshitz: Is the P-grab code for water sports?

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Big Odio: I remember I put up a stink a few years ago in a dynasty league after Anthony Rendon and a pick was traded for Singleton. Everyone told me it was an even swap.

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: bro, all trades are fair as long as there is no collusion *said in a stoned out surfer voice*

            • Ralph Lifshitz

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              @Big Odio: I like to save people from themselves.

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Ralph Lifshitz: why not focus on our league. I think you need to kick someone out as a sacrifice to the fantasy gods. I nominate Cubans. It must be done to keep us right with Jobu

                • Ralph Lifshitz

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                  @Big Odio: I think we already did that, didn’t help.

                  • Big Odio says:
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                    @Ralph Lifshitz: fine, then kick out smokey

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

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                      @Big Odio: Not happening.

              • Mobin Can't Hack It says:
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                @Ralph Lifshitz: whether you like to or not the comish has to in some instances (i’m not making any comment on that particular league as i don’t know, just in general) assuming he wants to keep a league competitive.

                • Ralph Lifshitz

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                  @Mobin Can’t Hack It: I tried to but ultimately the group needs to be in agreement.

  14. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Braves traded for more pitching?? Giving up Mallex Smith?

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Malicious Phenoms: Yeah whats up with that? It’s like one team is acquiring as many OF as possible and the other pitchers.

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Love that flip for Smyly move

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Me too, I’ve been saying it as much as I can, and I’ll hammer it home on the mariners podcast. Dipoto don’t play!

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: And I’m sure the Braves are now asking themselves what they could have done to get Smyly.

          • regan says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: That’s my boy! Please tell Grey the Mariners front office isn’t a joke anymore.

            • Ralph Lifshitz

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              @regan: Would he listen? Haha, DiPoto has changed so much in his short time. He’s a big part of the improvements Tyler O’Neill and DJ Peterson made last year. There has been an organizational shift in hitting philosophy. They’re now focused on teaching hitters to have a plan at the plate. It’s a new day.

              • Mobin Can't Hack It says:
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                @Ralph Lifshitz: as opposed to trading HR hitting types (trumbo) for backup minor league caliber catchers. guessing dipoto wasn’t the guy there last year at this time.

                • Ralph Lifshitz

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                  @Mobin Can’t Hack It: yeah, that wasn’t a great move, I was never sure why Clevenger. Since then he’s made a lot of moves I really like. Did well in last year’s draft as well. He’s been excellent this offseason.

  15. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Ralph – thanks again for the Kershaw trade help. The Degrom/JD guy gave me a new “best offer” to try and beat the one you liked best. Here’s the final “best offer” options:

    A – $18 Darvish + $4 Villar

    B – $11 Carrasco + $10 JD Mart

    C – hold my $30 Kershaw

    In case relevant, my other keepers would be Rizzo ($33), Betts ($28), Story ($11), Dahl ($10), Moncada ($3), and, if I held Kershaw, Khris ($6) [i’m pretty confident i could draft Khris at $10 or less in this league]

    Thanks as always

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Real tough! By your response, can I assume that you like either trade over keeping Kershaw? I’m a Razzballer, so I’ve never actually owned a non-injured Kershaw! (I traded for him after the injury last year).

        I’m definitely in “flags fly forever” mode, but it will start to get tough to keep Kershaw, Rizz, and Betts when they all hit mid-to-low 30s next year.

        Darvish and Villar are a little sexier, but I could look silly if Villar fizzles . . . though even Villar’s floor to me seems like .250 10/40 (i.e., basically altuve with less average). I like JD Mart a lot, but the power isn’t as scarce as it used to be. Plus, a perpetual 2b/ss/MI of Story/Villar/Moncada would be pretty fun if Moncada pans out.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: True on Villar, but @ $4 that’s real cheap. For me it’s Carrasco vs Darvish. I want to lean Carrasco but they’re both #1’s with injury concerns. I think the Carrasco and JD package is safer while the Villar and Yu is sexier with a chance to crash and burn.

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: good points! Either way, both seem like worthwhile returns for kersh

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                @Ralph Lifshitz: the guy with Carrasco is backing off and leaning towards degrom again (adding $3 victor mart instead as a third piece, who I don’t think I could really use over dahl). So that would make the decision easier!

  16. Plan B says:
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    Brent Honeywell will be call up in 2017 or 2018? Should I select him in a rookie draft? Not to many pitchers have 5 Pitches to throw in the game today.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Plan B: With Smyly moving I bet we see Honeywell in July. He’s worth a pick. About 10 other pitchers I like better, but he’s good.

      • Plan B says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Will you post your top 15 or 10 pitching prospects.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Plan B: Reyes, Glasnow, Martes, Giolito, Hader, Kopech, Espinoza, De Leon, Yadier Alvarez, and then probably Honeywell. So he’s 10! Haha!

  17. Big Odio says:
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    So the M’s trade for Mallexx and then flip him to the Rays for Smyly. Why didnt the Braves just make a deal for Smyly. That would of made sense for them with all the retirees they have hanging on their staff

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Big Odio: Not old enough or a pitching prospect. Braves only want old men and young boys. Like nambla

  18. Jason says:
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    Hey Ralph

    I want your opinion on a trade offer.

    I’m in 12-team H2H keeper “keep forever” league. For some context, the scoring categories are:
    R H HR RBI BB K SB TB AVG OPS and IP K/9 K/BB QS W HRA ERA WHIP SV+HLD

    I’m looking to upgrade my rotation but not lose too much “oomph” on offense.

    I have an offer where I trade: Dn.Murphy+Braun for Carrasco+Dozier

    At SP I currently have – Arrieta/Lester/Verlander/Hamels/Hill

    Dozier and Murphy would replace each other at 2B, and I have Brantley/J.Ramirez to replace Braun in LF

    Which pair would you want now and in the future? Murphy or Carrasco?

    Thanks :)

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Jason: Carrasco and Dozier side for sure. Dozier is an upgrade over Murphy (unless he repeats his 2016 act, he can’t repeat that right?) and Braun for Carrasco is fair, and you get your arm.

  19. Raoul Duke says:
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    What are your thoughts on Julio Urias vs Alex Reyes?

    Grey didn’t necessarily advise it, but agreed if I was willing to overpay some for a young pitcher for my keeper league that Khris Davis for Alex Reyes and a 2nd rd pick wouldn’t be insanely far off. The owner of Reyes has declined trade talks for Reyes, so what are your thoughts on Khris Davis for Julio Urias and a 2nd rd pick?

    Jose Ferandez was my lone pitching keeper, so looking for his replacement. Big shoes to fill. On the bright side, I have Josh Hader in my minor league system.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Raoul Duke: It’s a great pivot you win in either deal. Urias in 5 years is the better player. Might be next year too, though that’s close. Less risk with Urias and you get a 2nd rounder. Shooooot sign me up!

  20. Another Dan says:
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    Ralph,

    Picking your brain some more, sorry.

    Matt Thaiss – No longer catching ? He’s available at pick 20, am thinking of moving away from targeting arms to picking either him or Will Craig (at least one will be available). Pitchers available include Gsellman, Gonsalves, Fedde.

    I have lots of 1B talent though (Goldy, Abreu, Bellinger, Hoskins, Ockimey, Bauers, Travis) so does it clog my farm? But then I will be able to flip for proven pitchers if that’s what I need at a later point in time. The league is H2H 6×6 (BB and HLDS), so all pitchers take a hit because they only contribute to 4 cats at most.

    Dan

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Another Dan: I think you’re telling me you should take Gsellman…;)

      Thaiss over Craig 100%, he’s been moved off catching but the reports are the Angels are open to him splitting time between 1st and C. I like him more than Ockimey, who I’ve really soured on. Can’t hit lefties and gets crushed by the shift.

  21. regan says:
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    Just pulled a trade for Barretto. I can’t recall you talking about him much. Since the A’s review isn’t up yet i have to ask your thoughts.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @regan: I like Barreto had him ranked 58th at mid-season, and he had a terrible first half. He’s an excellent power/speed guy, not sure he sticks at short. He’s a favorite of Razzball writer Smokey.

      Wrote about him here, http://razzball.com/cody-bellinger-2016-fantasy-baseball-prospect/

      He’s going to be well within my top 50, and should see some time in Oakland late in the year.

  22. goodfold2 says:
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    seeing the woodruff MIL > alcantara STL above, that being the case (along with 2 NYM from above):
    where do woodruff/a.kay/harol gonzalez fit into that SP group of :

    c.perez/albertos/diplan/zeuch (surprised this guy is still available from real life draft slot)/mata/alcantara/puckett. lauer/speas/sixto gone now.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @goodfold2: Is put Gonzalez right behind Woodruff

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        @Ralph Lifshitz: and all three of woodruff/gonzo/kay behind mata then. alcantara just disappeared don’t worry about him relative to others.

  23. Matt says:
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    Hey Ralph, I was offered the No. 3 pick in the dynasty supp draft for four 2nd rd picks. I have a stacked minor league system with only a few spots left.

    The trade would leave me with 3, 10 and 12 in the first rd and a late 2nd rd.

    I would nab Ray or Maitan. You think four guys in the late teens and early 20s are too much to give up for Ray/Maitan?

    Just wondering if I shouldn’t try to trade those 4 picks for MLB guys at any rate.

    Thanks

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Matt: Nah if you have a few spots to fill go quality over quantity.

  24. Swfcdan says:
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    Am starting a new dynasty slow draft and having trade talks in my other league but finding it hard to rank prospects as well theres no damn top 50/100 prospect rankings out there! When yours come out? Can’t wait for that magical day.

    Have to shoot a few Q’s on here in instead. I’m a big Margot fan, good hit tool and Pads love to run, can see him going 10/40 in future years. Trying to get him sending either Barretto+Ross or Mateo+Ross for him. J Ross has to be kept at $3 next year so isn’t a huge piece but an add on, obviously main pieces are the prospects. Which offer would you rather do and are they both fairish?

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Swfcdan: I would go with the Mateo offer, I like Barreto far more

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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Yeah thought you’d say Mateo there, and guess Im underestimating Barretto. I’ll ask using Mateo but if he comes back and says no would you give up Honeywell for him instead?

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Swfcdan: Yeah Barreto is the better of the two.

          By himself yes.

          • Swfcdan says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: I’m not sure Ross is even worth keeping at $3, so ill add him in along with honeywell as I don’t need him.

            My other league about to kick off slow draft over the weekend! Pretty shallow rosters (no MI, CI, 4OF) but 16 teams. Got 5th pick, think im nuts going Kershaw?! H2H categories too so pitching more valuable

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              @Swfcdan: Not nuts picking Kershaw 5th then?

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        @Ralph Lifshitz: And when do your prospect top 50/100 rankings come out homie? Throw the dog a bone here.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Swfcdan: When I finish all the systems. Should be around late February.

          • Swfcdan says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: Just wondering do you use other sites for reference or is it all your own work the rankings. I mean theres nothing but useless team rankings out there right now, well they aint useless but no good at comparing the top guys.

            • Ralph Lifshitz

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              @Swfcdan: I definitely read as much as I can everywhere. Baseball America is my favorite, but there’s others BA, Logenhagen on Fangraphs, and others. I try to read as much as I can. I also watch videos of everyone, and look at batted ball data on MLBFarm.com.

              Probably a week away from lots of good lists hitting the web.

              • Swfcdan says:
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                @Ralph Lifshitz: longenhagens the man! Well Dan Farnsworth was better before him but theyre both kick ass!

                Guess you don’t get to watch too many minor league games, cos hey you have a job and a life too.

                • Ralph Lifshitz

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                  @Swfcdan: Oh no I watch a ton. I got the MiLB package, and live near Pawtucket, Lowell, NH, and Hartford. So I am close to affiliates with the International League, Eastern League, and New York Penn League. I’m hoping to get the some Cape League games this summer. I probably watch like 250 baseball games a year.

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                  @Swfcdan: i used to only use the razz guy too (pre Ralph), but damn early drafts necessitated other lists/info. minorleagueball is pretty good too (and long, not a top 10, actually is up to post team 20 as we speak too). issue is most of the posts are behind ralph’s pace (logenhagen only post team 12). the pace for all of them would really be fine if comishes would just have drafts at reasonable times (say late feb-end of march).

  25. goodfold2 says:
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    ah, here’s another person who agrees with you about gsellman, in fact he sickels-sells him (hehe, pretty funny the pitcher in question’s name goes with this though was a quite good enough pun without it): from minor league ball’s list:
    “best stretch of pitching in his entire pro career; fastball up to 95-96, mixes in plus slider, plus curve, mediocre change-up; secondary pitches looked better in the majors than they did in the minors, reflected in higher strikeout rate while maintaining lots of grounders; undoubted parallels to Jacob deGrom and not just due to the hair, development paths very similar; while a longer track record would be nice, overall I think this is mostly real

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @goodfold2: I agree with all this. Good looks Sickels!

  26. barvesgonnabarve says:
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    Where would you slot Gohara in the Braves system? Seems like he’s a long shot lolita, but an interesting one at that. Seems like a left-handed Toussaint — double plus velo, plus breaking ball, history of poor command and still a few years away from contributing.

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      @barvesgonnabarve: that is a weird one as he was traded from SEA after the ATL post went up. finding info elsewhere isn’t great either, but…
      -BA had him 3rd at SEA (albeit with no info since you hit a paywall with SEA, and ATL’s came out too early). last year’s BA book had him a 55 (damn good) and 6th at SEA. so he’s moved up at BA (and/or SEA’s group has gotten worse)
      -prospectus also has him 3rd at SEA and again a paywall.
      – fangraphs no list yet
      – minor league ball ATL also done before trade and SEA’s not yet done (so he’ll miss both lists here)
      – mlb.com’s list (albeit with outdated tools from probably feb-march 2016, except for guys drafted or international signed post 2016 draft, then from probably june-july) has him lower (12th), with very good fastball (65), goodish slider that i bet has improved from this rating (50), 45 (CH) and bad control (40).

      to have moved up those lists and overall placement at them i’d guess at least one of changeup/control has gotten better. floor certainly seems to be a very good loogy or lefty closer. does seem like he’d fit right behind touki (touki seems to already have the 3 pitches and better control). mlb.com with their outdated tool ratings do have him 2 spots behind touki.

      • barvesgonnabarve says:
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        @goodfold2: Awesome breakdown, @goodfold2. I do wonder if Gohara might actually be a touch above Toussaint after doing a bit more research. Gohara probably has Toussaint beat on his FB grade (since he was up to 99 from the left side in the AFL), and while both have struggled with control in the low minors, Gohara just went 80+ innings this year with a sub 3 BB/9, something Touki hasn’t really come close to yet. The wild card is probably Touki’s curve, which I’ve seen graded as double plus already. Another high upside, high variance arm though, and as a Braves fan, can’t say I’m mad about it.

  27. goodfold2 says:
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    pitchers getting decimated, rank these guys:
    diplan MIL, woodruff MIL, mata BOS, harol gonzo MIL, puckett KC, kay MIL, m.thompson SD
    and these PIT guys (fangraph’s PIT list out, so got some recent info tools wise), if some of the PIT guys aren’t in near same class just ditch those: hearn, hinsz, macgregor

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      @goodfold2: pick up soon, my guess is one of diplan/woodruff/harol G. this is probably only pitcher i get all draft (kirilloff/craig/okey/a.tejeda thus far, probably an OF and another good MI later). maybe a 2nd pitcher instead. pitcher’s have thinned a lot.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @goodfold2: I like them how you had them, not a fan of those Pitt arms.

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