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The other day I went over some 2nd half hitters.  Today, it’s time for everyone’s favorite 2nd half fantasy baseball pitchers.  Or maybe these won’t be your favorite pitchers.  These are decisions you have to make on your own.  I can walk you to the fantasy baseball water, I cannot drink it for you.  Similarly to hitters, players get in grooves or slumps.  So if a pitcher has been terrible for the last month, but showed flashes in the 2nd half of last year, he’s worth considering, but he’s not suddenly going to be great, i.e., recent history should be weighed.  Anyway, here’s some 2nd half fantasy baseball pitchers for 2010:

CC Sabathia – 1.56 ERA in 2008’s 2nd half to lead the league for pitchers over 60 innings.  He was ranked 7th for 2nd half ERA in 2007 with a 2.76.  Last year, Chubb rock’d a 2.74 ERA, the 9th best in the majors.  Though his K-rate is down.  Though, Part II:  The Return of Though, he does have a 3.61 career ERA.  Though, Part III: Though Lives, he is usually better in the 2nd half.  Though, Part IV:  Though Part Three Confused Me.  Though, Part V:  Why Do They Keep Making Thoughs?

Jorge de la Rosa – In 2008, dlR’s 1st half was 7.26 ERA vs. a 2nd half 3.08 ERA.  Last year, he had a 3.46 ERA in the P.S. to the All-Star break.

Ubaldo Jimenez – Hasn’t been great recently…  Neverthehoo!  For the last three years, he’s been better in the 2nd half.  And that’s me combing over Ubaldo!

Roy Oswalt – Didn’t have a good post-All-Star break last year, but in his last three years prior, he shaves nearly a full run off his ERA in the 2nd half and that’s including last year’s bleh one.

Scott Kazmir – Second best ERA in the 2nd half in 2007.  I know what you’re thinking.  I had the 2nd best list of fantasy baseball pitchers for the 2nd half until I put Kazmir on the list.  Fair enough.  He skipped 2008 with injuries.  Then he was better in the 2nd half last year too.

Scott Baker – Sticking with the Scott theme, Baker had a 2nd half 3.28 ERA vs. 5.42 in the 1st half.  In the last three years, a 2nd half ERA of 3.38  vs. 4.80 in the 1st half.

Bronson Arroyo – I’ve been covering his 1st and 2nd half splits too much now.  People are going to start to think I really like him.  He still doesn’t strikeout anyone.  His 2nd half ERA over the last three years is more than 2 runs lower.  Okay, that’s enough!

Ricky Nolasco – In the 2nd half of ’08, he struckout ninety-eight hitters and only issued 12 walks… 105 Ks to 23 walks in 2009… That RN is just what the doctor ordered.

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  1. chrisbenson says:
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    dang!

    grey, can you rank these doodes? thanks.

    kelly johnson, ty wiggy, barmes, fe lo, miggy tejada

    thanks man!

  2. Adam says:
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    I’ll steer clear of Webb, thanks. I’m in first in a 12-team league thanks in large part to you, by the way. One other question: I have to declare keepers by the trading deadline, and Vlad can be kept for another year on my team. Is he a retirement/injury risk or do I have a ridiculous steal of a keeper for next year?

  3. Drew says:
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    Better 2nd half, King Felix or Josh Johnson?

  4. Wow, I already own two of these guys. I just emailed myself a buy-low offer…but I shot it down after reading this article.

  5. Kazmere says:
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    I’m last in ERA and 3 of my pitchers are on that list. Thanks, Grey, for giving me a glimmer of hope.

  6. mc serch says:
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    Great post! i’ve got three of these guys (Ubaldo, DLR and Oswalt), would like to make a play for Nolasco cause I agree he has a bad ass name and my staff needs an image makeover…how weak is it to have a staff with guys on it named Wandy, Roy, Brandon and Cole….sounds like a new boy band!

  7. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: Do you like Baker or Arroyo for the 2nd half over Morrow, Lilly, Lewis, or Vazquez?

  8. Art Vandelay says:
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    Too soon to drop Stanton (for, say, Corey Patterson) in a single season league? Still think he comes around?

    Also, would you deal King Felix and Valverde for Prince Fielder?

  9. John says:
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    is there a site you use or some where you can find the stats on PABST splits? and how much stock do you put into them when trying to acquire these players?

  10. XnadyMen says:
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    Feeling real good, currently in 1st in my league and have 2 of these guys after having 4 of the hitters mentioned. Thanks Grey for the virtual confidence boost…hmm I guess that actually qualifies as a legit confidence boost.

  11. XnadyMen says:
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    @John: I stay away from the PABST…Blue Ribbon gives me the SHATS the next day without fail….

  12. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: Will you be doing a player ranking for the second half?

    Also, would you give the green light to start Johan? (I can’t believe I’m asking this!)

  13. @Grey: No Johan love? Dude’s always a better 2nd half pitcher. I don’t own him anywhere but I’m one of the Flushing faithful, so I’m hoping he does his usual 2nd half work and leads us to the promised land (this time). Been going after him hard, but his owner obviously feels the same way as I do about him.

    I’ve had my eye on Nolasco and Baker. Unfortunately Nolasco’s owner needs pitching worse than I do and Baker’s owner is insane. I’m assuming you’d trade Jaime for either of those guys?

  14. pjtres says:
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    grey…
    can you rank these guys from here on out (or give me the top 3)??? i need some help in SP!

    cecil, sheets, bum-g, myers, buehrle, padilla, volstad, olsen

  15. Nathan says:
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    Reyes will be back in lineup tonight, but will bat right-handed even against a right-handed starter.

    Not exactly inspiring confidence here.

  16. Cal Cheats says:
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    Mind rating these pitchers in order? Billingsley, Shelds, Kazmir, Wandy, Cahill and Edwin Jackson.

  17. TheEvilEmpire says:
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    @Art Vandelay: I dropped him yesterday.

  18. Cheese

    Cheese says:
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    A Gonz/K Johnson/Kennedy for Tex/Figgins/Baker

  19. hoju says:
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    How do people feel about Rich Harden’s career 2nd half splits??

  20. ScoutAbout says:
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    Hi Grey. 2 catcher, H2H league with OBP. I’ve got McCann and have been using Jason Castro as my 2nd catcher. LuCroy was just dropped onto waivers and Jake Fox is available now. Do you think either is a better option than Castro?

  21. magicterp says:
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    Great stuff as always, Grey… Thanks!
    NL-only H2H keeper league – I’m currently in first place and making a championship push. I think I know your answer but I need to look at long-term v. short-term…
    Would you trade away a $1 Jaime Garcia for a $24 Matt Cain?

    I currently have a rotation of Garcia, Cole Hamels, Sanchez, Medlen, and LeBlanc, with Bumgarner, DLR, and Volquez on my bench.
    Thx!

  22. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @mc serch: Ha!

    @timSTi: Baker over Morrow if you don’t need Ks.

    @Art Vandelay: It’s fair for Fielder, depends needs.

    @John: Just about every site has splits:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=4937&type=batting3

    @XnadyMen: No problem.

    @GopherDay: I’d start Johan. I’m doing 2nd rankings next week.

    @3FingersBrown: I’d trade him for Nolasco. Johan’s last three year splits have him worse in ERA in the 2nd half.

    @pjtres: Cecil, Bum…

    @Nathan: Yup

    @Cal Cheats: Bills, Wandy, Jackson…

    @Cheese: I’d take Tex.

    @hoju: Same way I feel about his 1st half splits, he’s always injured.

    @ScoutAbout: LuCroy over Castro…

    @magicterp: Thanks! I’d stay with Garcia.

  23. Steve says:
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    @3FingersBrown: You mean Baker’s owner has been DRIVEN insane.

  24. Wilsonian says:
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    In the earlier thread I asked about dropping Beckham in my 16 Team H2H Keeper for Hammel, Hunter, Storen or League. By the time I saw your response and got to my league, Hammel had been picked up. Would you drop him for any of the remaining 3, or Lincoln, Kuo, Bard, or just hold tight (have Gonzo coming off the DL after the break)?

    Also, thanks to you, Razzball commenters, and my supreme genius, I am currently in 2nd in this 16 Teamer, after being in 15th last season and 11th the year before (my first two seasons in this league after picking up a defunct team). Keep up the good work on this shizz, doode…

  25. dj says:
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    hey y’alls.
    my awful, cobbled together pitching staff is:

    lester, latos, buccholz, clayton richard, morrow, cueto, medlen and bedard DL

    de la rosa and volquez are on waivers. which 2 of all these pitchers would you leave off your roster?

    would you rather have bedard or de la rosa (or even volquez?) at this point?

  26. cashmoney says:
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    Last utility spot for tonight. ..start uggla, pence or Bruce?

  27. dj says:
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    also when can we drop lind?

    i already regret giving up on 1 player this year… trading quentin for ludwick a month ago :(

  28. brad says:
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    combing over ubaldo. . . ha!

  29. CoreyII says:
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    anyone have thoughts on Brett Myers? any chance he keeps being a usefull pitcher for the 2nd half?

  30. Nuke LaDouche says:
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    Hey Grey, would you trade Longoria for Tex or Howard if you currently had Panda at first. I could slide Panda to 3rd where I think he has more value.

  31. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Ha

    @Wilsonian: Nice, hopefully we can get you the win. I’d hold Beckham for now.

    @dj: Volquez and dlR over Bedard.

    @cashmoney: Uggla

    @dj: Lose him if you like. Though I have no idea who you’re losing him for.

    @brad: Hehe

    @CoreyII: Seems like a #4 fantasy starter with no chance for wins.

    @Nuke LaDouche: Sure, Howard.

  32. Nuke LaDouche says:
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    Thanks Grey. One more quick one, would you rather have Stubbs or Pagan going forward?

  33. Eddie says:
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    @Grey: Would appreciate some advice, Grey. 16 team H2H keeper format. I’ve got this proposal on the table:

    I send Rolen, Stanton and Soto.

    I get Wieters and C. Pena.

    Per the rules of our league, neither Soto nor Pena can be kept by any team for next season. I’ve got Neil Walker on my roster to plug in at 3B, and hopefully Snider coming off the DL next week for my third OF spot. Already starting CarGo and Hart.

    Whaddyathink?

  34. Eddie says:
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    @Grey: I also have Votto at 1B, so Pena goes to my util slot.

  35. alvaro says:
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    With this outfield is it worth it to trade for Laroche and move Dunn to the OF
    Start 3

    Markakis
    Kemp
    Pence
    Span

    I also have Konerko at UT.

    I would try then turning around and trading Konerko and/or an OF for a quality starter

  36. Dominic says:
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    Earlier in the year I dropped Nolasco for Hughes now should i cut ties with Hughes for Nolasco?

  37. Dominic says:
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    Pavano is actually still available too

  38. Cheese

    Cheese says:
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    @Grey: How about if figgins were subbed for asdrubal

    So…

    A Gonz/K Johnson/Kennedy for Tex/Asdrubal/Baker

  39. Yankees2010 says:
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    Grey et al,
    Do I need to hang onto Slowey with the following Starters:
    Johann, Hamels, Garza, Oswalt, Hudson, Scherzer, Cueto and Volquez (DL). I am tired of looking at the guy and I could probably use some Hold assistance for Joba. 12 Team H2H with OPS and Holds!

    Thanks guys.

  40. Wah says:
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    DeJesus just hit the WW… should I drop Marlon Byrd for him?

  41. @Grey: Looked a little closer. Fair enough. Didn’t realize that he fell off in ’07, but he did improve in ’08. Last year he had bone chips in his elbow, so I’ll give him a pass.

    I like him for the 2nd half this year. Coming off of surgery, he’s had to work through some bad habits that he picked up while pitching hurt last year – opening up his glove and tipping his change – while increasing his arm strength. We’re seeing a little uptick in his velocity over earlier in the year and from what I’ve read, he’s made strides in hiding the ball better.

    …Anyway just a thought. I still get goose-bumps when I think back to when I saw Johan and his 3-hit gem, on a bad knee, against Nolasco and the Fish in the 2nd to last game at Shea. Perhaps the saddest victory I’ve ever seen, since I had no confidence in Oli getting us into the playoffs the next day.

  42. Martin says:
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    @grey- who would you rather have nolasco or c-grand and ian kennedy?

  43. barker says:
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    yea that was rough 3 fingers

    i was at glavines gem in 07 to end the season and as i was sitting down in my seat D-train(blast from the past eh) was crushing a 3-run triple to make it 7 – 0 in the 1st inning that was probaly my worst experinece at a game people were crying on each others shoulders

    worst of all my yankee friend brought me and was laughing the whole time

    good times man

  44. Yankees2010 says:
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    @3FingersBrown:

    I too hold Johann and am looking forward to a big second half. I watched his last outing against the Nats and his velocity was up (91 to 92 MPH) and he was hitting his spots. How he comes out of that with a ND is beyond me. I understand it was Livan he was facing, but the Metropolitans need to start hitting for Mr. Santana.

    Glad I’m not a Met fan!

  45. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @3FingersBrown: Gotcha… All I can think about is Reyes coming back healthy.

    @Martin: Grandy

  46. Mr2Bits says:
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    is Branyan going to be an everyday player in Seattle or should I look elsewhere for a D Lee replacement?

  47. Steve says:
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    CQ a DNP this PM. He’s DTD.

  48. nick m. says:
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    need to add a 2B or SS, who should I grab? Pennington, Aybar, Felipe Lopez, Aviles, Carlos Guillen, Callaspo?

  49. @barker: Ugly ugly day. That final game was even more painful to me than being at game 7 of the ’06 NLCS. Mets were down 7-0 before my popcorn was ready! I wandered the streets talking to myself in a drunken daze the rest of the afternoon (didn’t even bother watching the G-Men beat the Eagles) as though my wife left me and my dog died simultaneously. ’08 was just as bad. What a terrible way for the Mets to close Shea.

    @Yankees2010: Yeah it would be nice to see him get some runs. Clueless Jerry should have left him in regardless though. I believe he was at 97 pitches when he was removed. Jerry only lets Mike Pelfrey throw more than 100. Which makes perfect sense since he’s young – right Mark Prior? Even Dickey (with no Ulner collateral ligament) doesn’t get to throw 100. I’m not saying to abuse guys Dusty Baker-style, but you gotta give your big guy the ball when he’s going well and has an opportunity to win.

    @Grey: I hear you. From what I read, it sounds like he’ll be ok. I really hope so. I can’t take anymore of the Cora/Tejada MI combination.

    @Steve: True. Baker can do that to a man. I really don’t want any part of him but that low BB rate is so enticing.

  50. Steve says:
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    @3FingersBrown: I’ve just picked him back up in my auction keeper – having bought him for $9 and then dropping him in disgust…

  51. and1mcgee says:
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    I give Longoria/Lind and I get Braun/Pence do i win on net production? h2h 12-team 6×6

  52. @Steve: I think he’s rosterable in 12 team and larger leagues. That 2nd half split looks mighty nice. Who’d you drop for him?

    With the more pitcher friendly home field, I was very high on him (and Slowey, who I have) coming into the year. I’ve got a lot of marginal pitchers doing well right now, but if/when someone falters, I’ll throw another offer out for him. To be honest, I’m shocked that I couldn’t get him last month for my offer of Swish or JWill. The guy has lousy OBP and could use an OF.

  53. Steve says:
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    @3FingersBrown: Kennedy. Wish I’d done it before yesterday, though!

  54. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Mr2Bits: Should play vs. all righties and maybe some weak lefties. He’s hitting better than Lee right now and has been all year.

    @Steve: Hehe

    @nick m.: Felipe

    @and1mcgee: Looks okay for you.

  55. and1mcgee says:
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    @Grey: is it just ok? or is Lind going to pull his head out of ass, a la Quentin, soon?

  56. tourinct says:
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    Reality check: guy in a 10 team 5×5 9 keeper league (7 teams within 11.5 pts) is interested in my Kendrick and Rauch because he lost Utley and has one closer. I could use OF with Choo on DL. Is asking for any of the folllowing unreasonable : Dread Pirate, Either, Rasmus, Cargo? Aren’t we at specific needs now as opposed to potential?

  57. @Steve: Ah… He just hit waivers in my league too. I loved him at draft day but I think we’ve seen the best of Kennedy this year.

  58. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @and1mcgee: Lind has better upside, but he could stay unusable. Depends how desperate you are.

    @tourinct: A bit unreasonable, but try them.

  59. Eddy says:
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    Ugh, hate that Holliday and miggy are in the HR derby. I’ll never forget Abreus demise.

  60. Steve says:
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    @Grey: And Hamels is getting me there too.

  61. and1mcgee says:
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    @Grey: I’m not desperate at all. I m in 2nd place and comfortable there. But anything that can inch my team positively I am down for.

  62. Ryan says:
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    Just traded morneau Capps and lindstrom for Howard. What relievers do you recommend picking up for speculating for saves? I have marmol, clippard, and just picked up chris perez. Putz, league, storen, meek, gregerson and lyon are some names that are available.

  63. Steve says:
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    Hah. Ibanez was 1-11 against Jar-Jar so I benched him (in favour of Lind!) in my H2H league.

    Needless to say, he’s 2-12 now…

  64. Awesomus Maximus

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    Speaking of second-half pitching… 10-Team, H2H, 5×5… would you trade Strasburg straight up for Ubaldo, knowing that Big Baby Jesus won’t be pitching when you need him at the end of the regular season (H2H playoff time)?

  65. penpen says:
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    Hart for Oswalt?

  66. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Ryan: Putz

    @Steve: Who did you put in instead?

    @Awesomus Maximus: I’d want Ubaldo in a roto or H2H league over Strasburg.

    @penpen: Hart… It’s fair though.

  67. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Lind…

  68. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Glad I’m not starting Lind anywhere. Emoticon.

  69. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Ah – but this is a new one I’m trying.

    The double-reverse jinx with a half-twist.

  70. alex says:
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    which side of this trade do you like

    Adam Jones, Alex Gonzalez, Troy Glaus for Derek Jeter, Aubrey Huff and Barry Zito.

    20 team League non keeper

  71. xopchipili says:
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    Carlos Lee and Robot both hit the waiver wire in one of my leagues this afternoon (6×6 w OPS). My droptions include Gaby Sanchez, SeanRod, Wiggy, Berkman, Willingham, Pagan, and LaPorta. Grab both? And if so, who gets dropped?

  72. Tom Emanski says:
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    @Grey: Same here. Terrified about losing Reyes because they rushed him. Why the eff would you bring him back if he can only bat against righties? That would mean he is not healthy. Meaning he shouldn’t play. If that sounds too obvious, we’re talking about the Mets training staff.

  73. danimal35 says:
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    Youk Down! Youk Down!

    Youkilis comes out of the game due to an apparent phantom achilles, ankle or calf injury…occured on the way from on deck circle to batter’s box

  74. danimal35 says:
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    Beltre fouls ball off right knee…looks painful and limping back to dugout

    Sheesh! the Red Sox are falling apart

  75. BSA says:
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    Red Sox game is on and Remy and Orsillo have dead air as I am sure they are watching replays. Dr. Orsillo thinks cramp, Remy said he went down to grab front and back of ankle. More worthless commentary to come. Youk was stretching in the third while on first.

  76. William says:
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    @Grey – Is Raul Ibanez worth using a waiver priority on?

    My OF right now is – BJ Upton, Jason Bay, Matt Kemp, and Dexter Fowler

  77. Black Beard says:
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    What round will Grady be drafted in your standard 12 team keeper in 2011? I still have him hanging around my DL at the moment.

  78. Steve says:
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    @BSA: His legs have finally given out under the strain of dragging those enormous feet around.

    @William: As long as I keep benching him, he is.

  79. BSA says:
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    @Steve: I thought maybe the inbalance of the chin was the issue.

  80. Black Beard says:
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    Bills or J. Pierre in an OBP league?

  81. Steve says:
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    @BSA: Indeed. The human body is not equipped to cope with those feet and that melon.

  82. BSA says:
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    @Steve: Imagine someone not knowing what he looks like – What an image we are painting….

  83. barker says:
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    12 team league hth CI MI spots

    drop assdrubal barmes or freddy sanchez for felipe lopez

  84. SPARTACUS! Rises up from the dust to challenge his own ineptness!

  85. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @zombie: He’s still playing major league ball?

  86. Joe B says:
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    Hey everyone… let’s do the right thing here and go to MLB.com and vote for Youkilis and Votto for the last spots on the All Star teams. No doubt these two deserve it… they are 4th and 3rd respectively (only behind Morneau and the Studmiser) in the league in OPS and are just flat out studs. Let’s do these guys a solid!

  87. Grey

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    @Joe B: Youk, is that you?

  88. Joe B says:
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    Hey Grey… what is your opinion on this trade?

    My Montero, Pence, and Hamels

    for his

    T Hunter and Nolasco

  89. Joe B says:
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    Grey don’t tell me you’ve been brainwashed by the Swisher campaign and voted for him… what a travesty if he gets in over Youkilis. I am a Red Sox fan, but all biases aside he has been better this year.

  90. Joe B says:
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    Also, if dumbass Joe Girardi picks Pettite over Weaver for Bucholtz’s spot on the AL squad, he should be hung from the gallows pole. Drop… Swing, Swing, Swing… ehhh I digress.

  91. mr baseball says:
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    Ian Al Stewart

    hasn’t had an hit since the year of the cat

  92. mr baseball says:
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    The reason Girardi picked Pettite over Weaver was for the fans – who wants to see Weaver pitch in the all star game

    I am a yankee fan – My vote is for YOUK

  93. mr baseball says:
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    don’t vote for Votto – he needs the time off – believe me

  94. fitz says:
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    Morrow or Wandy for rest of year?

    Wandy is pitching well tonight.

  95. Steve says:
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    @mr baseball: Ian Rod Stewart – Tonight’s The Night.

  96. big o says:
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    @Steve:
    half-twist ?

    man , i’ve got to step up my game .

  97. Joe B says:
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    @mr baseball: I just hate it when a manager picks his own guys over more deserving ones… ie Manuel picking Howard over Votto, with the DH even. What and effing scam!

  98. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Joe B: I’d take Hamels.

    @Joe B: Honestly, I didn’t even know who was up for vote. Other than Votto, of course.

    @mr baseball: Ha

    @fitz: Wandy

    EDIT: Word.

  99. Looks like Jerry was reading Razzball today… You see the look Johan gave him when Jerry came out to chat after Bay dropped that flyball in the 9th? That’s the Johan I’m talking about! Even took it upon himself to get some offense with his first career jack.

    @Joe B: They got my vote although I still wish we could vote Infante off of the team.

  100. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Hey look – Didn’t See That Coming Sanchez just showed up.

  101. GRRRR… Damn Clippard couldn’t get Livan off of the hook in that 8th inning. So much for that QS and what looked like a W. Meanwhile my boys are a collective 0-21 tonight! Yikes! At least Pagan got a steal…

  102. Howie says:
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    @Grey…

    Injury replacement questions for you– NL Only league, 4×4

    1) Utley- replace with one of the spares available or wait and see if the Phils trade for someone of some note? I need help in SBs and Avg. and from the free agents available in my league I don’t see any SB help and the leading Avg. guys who have started over the past month include Herrera, Schumaker, and Lopez.

    2) Gallardo- wait a few weeks and see how he can throw or replace him ASAP with either Lilly, Billingsley, R. Clayton, LeBlanc, Medlen, Cueto? I need wins, ERA, and WHIP equally…

    Note- my league does not allow subbing in and out (i.e., if I replace Gallardo…he goes to the free agent list and I could not reclaim unless I had another pitcher go on the DL. As I “bought” him in our auction this year, I would have the ability to keep him next year for 1.5x his “sale” price.

    Thanks!

  103. Don Marino says:
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    Which side: Beltre and Soriano for Haren and Napoli?

  104. fitz says:
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    Crawford absolutely KILLS the Red Sox. It’s just incredible.

  105. gza says:
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    Got 2 for you Grey:

    jorge dlr or edinson volquez for the rest of the year?

    stewart or cuddyer?

    thanks

  106. danimal35 says:
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    Seriously…I know I’m a Tampa Bay homer but Benoit deserves Mr. B some props

    and Zimmerman says “Mr. Votto, I’ll see your two donks and raise you a walk-off!”

  107. danimal35 says:
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    @Don Marino: which Soriano?

  108. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Walked and stole a base. Gotta get get your jollies where you can.

  109. Don Marino says:
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    @danimal35: Alfonz

  110. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Ah, yeah, suppose so.

  111. @Grey: Yeah off the RF foul pole. Santana said, I don’t need no stinkin’ offense. He looked really good on the hill tonight… Both of Jose’s hits were IF singles but he didn’t look to have anything bothering him. Of course he was hitting righty all night.

    Hey Bumgarner’s throwing a heck of a game, huh? Who do you like better, him or Tommy Hunter? I suppose both are just spot starters for the time being. I’ve never actually seen Bumgarner pitch, so I have to go on hearsay – and MLB 2k10, where he stinks.

  112. BSA says:
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    What the heck just happened to Peavy? Fluid come flowing out of the shoulder?

  113. LMack says:
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    Peavy out after a solid 1.2 IP? Anyone know whats up?

  114. royce! says:
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    @LMack: I’m hearing rumors of fluid flowing out of his shoulder…

  115. Grey

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    @3FingersBrown: Yeah, saw Jose’s hits. Was running fine. Bumgarner over Hunter.

  116. royce! says:
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    Just saw the Peavy video, looked like shoulder or elbow. Didn’t look good.

    Much, much worse was watching the players, ump, and crowd response to the fan at the Rangers game falling from the second tier going after a foul ball. Seriously disturbing. I hope that guy recovers.

  117. BSA says:
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    @Grey: Funny timing this past week as Bumgarner was pitching. I was visiting family in Hudson, NC and my brother in law told me how excited the town was for his promotion. I then noticed that his camper came from Bumgarner Campers. I guess the name just got a little bit larger in a small town.

  118. Don Marino says:
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    @royce!: Man, did this dude just did this?

  119. royce! says:
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    Edit: “respond,” not “response.”

  120. fitz says:
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    hooray for owning Vlad, Cruz and Hamilton. Texas lineup is ridiculous.

  121. Fletch says:
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    @Grey: Are Latos and Medlen sell high candidates because of inning restrictions?

  122. Grey

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    @BSA: Strasburg gets a city, Bumgarner gets campers…. Oh, well.

    @fitz: It’s real nice, right?

    @Fletch: As always, depends what you’re getting.

  123. royce! says:
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    @Don Marino: Oh, and the fluid thing was a joke. I just thought it was funny that comments #115 and #116 asked the same Q.

  124. fitz says:
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    @Grey: Yep, until one, two or three of them hit the DL. Knock on wood.

  125. @Grey: Crap. Guess I shoulda benched Cahill tonight. Could be worse I suppose. My opponent this week had Peavy.

  126. underthebleachers says:
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    Got dlr, vasquez, and bedard. Should drop Bedard for G. Floyd for a better second half, right?

  127. BSA says:
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    @royce!: I’ve been laughing heartily, even though I own Peavy.

  128. mr baseball says:
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    The end has come to Cano Season

    Yankees’ 2B Cano picked for Home Run Derby

  129. mr baseball says:
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    Niuman Romero time is here

  130. Steve says:
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    @3FingersBrown: I’m against my sister in H2H this week and she’s been away in Europe, so I’ve been managing her team – against myself!

    I benched Cahill for her…

    She has Hamilton, Holliday, Morneau and Felipe (who I picked up for her!) and I have Zimm and KJ (with Ibanez benched!) so the homers havbe been flying today.

  131. frank says:
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    pick up arroyo for metco start, who would you drop:

    cahill
    sheets
    heilman

    none?

  132. mr baseball says:
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    Hudson to replace Peavy – its real – its damm real – it might happen

  133. Steve says:
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    @mr baseball: Ian Rod Stewart – Tonight’s the Night!

  134. Cheese

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    At CI: Betemit, Peralta, or Smoak
    16 team h2h league 8×8 (BB, SLG, H)

  135. ASAOK says:
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    Would u do Ethier and Cueto for Lincecum and Niese?

  136. @Steve: Yeah lotta big flies tonight. Good man. I couldn’t run my opponents team sans shenanigans.

    @Grey: What do you think of this trade offer I made: Posey for Figgins.

    Keeper league w/ OBP. Not that I love Figgins, but I’m desperate for steals and have Lopez at MI. Figure I’d platoon the two or use both when Panda or McGehee get a day off. I’m thinking Figgins could give me a little more flexibility and some much needed SB. Posey’s sitting on my bench anyway and the other guy’s buried in last place. I’m hoping he’s interested in a cheap keeper for next year.

  137. Good god I hate the Yanks announcers. Ken Singleton is such a stooge. What’s the deal? If he doesn’t root for the pinstripes, Al Yankzeera fires him?

    Barton is called out on a third strike and gets run for going a little nutzo on the ump. Replay showed it was a good 2 or 3 inches outside, to which Singleton responds: “It was close, but it was definitely knee high.”

    Uh right… oh btw F Centaur-Rod

  138. Don Marino says:
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    Please rank: FraGu, Laporta, Stubbs, Pods, and Fowler.

    Rest of the year. Thanks!

  139. Wilsonian says:
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    I’ve asked similar questions before, but I don’t think I tossed all of these fine gentlemen into the pool…

    How would you rank these pitchers for the remainder of the season:

    Wandy, Richard, DLR, Volquez, Floyd, Lewis, Shields, Cueto, E. Santana, Medlen?

    Yeah, I know, it’s an 8 Team League. I own Floyd, Lewis and Richard. The rest are FAs, so I wanted to know if I should make some ch-ch-ch-changes. And sorry, there’s just so damn many arms out in them there hills…

  140. ASAOK says:
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    hmm just to clarify ud take lincecum and niese?

  141. Buddo Chezuski says:
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    Grey, where do you see CarGo getting ranked next year? I have him in a keeper and wasn’t planning on using a spot on him but its starting to look like he might be worthy

  142. barker says:
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    12 team roto same guy as yesterday

    i give Jimenez and moobs butler i get johan and miggy

    pitching includes wain lincecum filthy bills ubaldo pelf garcia

  143. Wilsonian says:
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    @Grey: thanks man. Wish I would sat Richard tonight. Those BBs were brutal in a league where we count ‘em…

  144. Terrence Mann says:
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    Jose Guillen just pulled his quad running to first. He bunny-hopped all the way to the bag except the last two feet then let himself get thrown out for a double play.

    God save any blinded team that trades for him with pennant hopes.

  145. elwood blues says:
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    In my search for more steals: I’m looking to trade Byrd.. who is the better target:
    Tabata or Victorino?

    Also Y.Escobar.. do I hold onto him and hope for something better in 2nd half.. or go after A.Escobar or S.Castro??

    I’m still in contention in this keeper league.

  146. barker says:
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    would u do wain straight up for miggy

  147. royce! says:
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    @BSA: Laugh out the pain.

    I don’t own him anywhere, the guy in my main league that owns him is currently enjoying the ride on the Wandwagon that I bought a ticket for, and I’m a Padres fan and sick of hearing him talk trash. So I thought the liquid flowing from his shoulder was just karmic retribution. But I’m sorry to hear that his injury may cause you pain.

  148. frank says:
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    is daniel hudson the real deal? (sorry i havent been keeping up with the scouting the unknowns…) worth a pickup in deep 12 team league?

  149. Martin says:
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    @Royce- I feel the pain so much. he kills me all year, I drop him, he gets picked up and does amazing. Ugh

  150. mr baseball says:
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    Ken “Hawk” Harrelson calling a homerun – its pretty cool

    “You can…put it on the BOARRRD!! YES!”

  151. royce! says:
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    I just saw that Sean Marshall and Marmol have 12 K over the last two days. I sure am proud of my h2h opponent for rostering both!

  152. @Grey: I figure Figgy for Posey isn’t too one sided since the guys pretty much out of it anyway and Posey will cost him only a 25th rounder to keep.

    I think it’s because the Yankee higher-ups won’t tolerate anything that can even slightly be construed as criticism. Hence Coney’s no longer in the booth.

    @barker: If I could spare the pitching and needed the stick. In a vacuum, I’ll always take the bat over the arm due to the greater inherent risk of injury that pitchers face.

    @elwood blues: You’re looking to trade for Tabata? I wouldn’t deal for him. Unless you’re in a big big league and there’s noone left with a job on waivers, I’m sure you can find another speed option.

    I’d take Yunny over Al and Castro for this season. They are all pretty lousy right now but I think Yunny can have the biggest impact. I have Yunny and Castro in a 15 team redraft and neither are really giving me much.

    All 3 are young enough to be potentially cheap keepers next season – depending on your keeper rules. I keep 5 in my league, so none of those guys would make the cut for me next season.

  153. fitz says:
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    Hmm that’s gonna hurt Franklin’s ERA just a bit.

  154. elwood blues says:
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    @3fingersbrown
    Yeah, I usually never trade for steals, but it’s the one category that’s dragging me down this year. I tried Bourn and Morgan to no avail.

    And nice to see the Rockies pitch Chacin on 3 days rest in the pen.. double whammy – no longer a starter and now killing my pitching stats

  155. Kent Bottenfield says:
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    Wow. Glad I don’t own Franklin. Not glad that I’m a Cardinals fan.

  156. elwood blues says:
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    Good to see Franklin implode.. maybe Motte will get more chances

  157. Kent Bottenfield says:
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    @elwood blues: Wasn’t a save situation. LaRussa just wanted to get him work. For now he’ll still keep running Franklin out for save chances.

  158. BSA says:
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    @royce!: The pain sets in when they leave him dangling on the non DL inactive list.

  159. @Kent Bottenfield: Brutal inning!

    If the Cards were still in the NL East, I’d have something derogatory to say but the baseball gods have decided that it’s more important for the Mets to play the Twins, rather than renew the best rivalry in my lifetime.

  160. barker says:
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    yea interleague needs to go

  161. @barker: Seriously. It’s fun to see AL players but I’d much rather see the NL West and Central more often.

    Mets/Cards was a great rivalry.

    On a side note: What’s up with Yahoo not adding Bumgarner unless you play with P as opposed to SP/RP? Weak. I’ll have to hope he makes it through to my 9th waiver postion – which I’m sure he won’t.

  162. barker says:
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    12 team 2 C league deep rosters CI MI 2 util

    i have three C he has one
    i want to get rid of one

    i give napoli doumit glaus i get grandy and mauer

    my other C montero 1b a gon huff gaby sanchez glaus OF braun ethier abreu damon

    does it make sense ??
    is it that big an upgrade for me??

  163. barker says:
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    not after tonight on bum

  164. @barker: Definitely not. This start will make him eligible for SP I believe, so he should hit waivers tomorrow – well in an hour 1/2. I’ll put in a claim, but I ain’t getting him.

  165. aj says:
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    morrow or mad bum for rest of the year

  166. BSA says:
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    Kevin Youkilis seems to be OK and said he plans to play tomorrow. He jammed his ankle while playing in the field in the bottom of the third inning and when he came to the plate in the fourth inning felt it “lock up” on him.

    “It felt like I had a cramp in my ankle,” Youkilis said. “It’s the most strange thing ever.”

  167. aj says:
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    sorry to bug you again mad bum or wandy the rest of the way

  168. aj says:
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    pelfrey, mad bum, or wandy the rest of the way

  169. BSA says:
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    Pulling a Steve and throwing this one out there to Grey, even though I already made the decision in the RCL, and not breaking the rules.

    Based on your initial thoughts, shoulder issues cropping up, and now a “back strain that hurts up into the right armpit” at the halfway point – drop Peavy for Bum?

  170. Steve says:
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    @BSA: You have my blessing. But watch out behind you…

  171. BSA says:
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    Yeah you had a good night. I’ll be taking those three points tomorrow with Niese going and teetering on the edge of picking up points for HRs and SBs.

  172. big o says:
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    @Grey:

    well , what i think is logic ,
    has been producing only mediocre results .
    thus , i’m taking a different tact .

    am starting rzep against the twins tomorrow ,
    and expect he will neutralize those 2 left-handed studs ,
    simply because i want him to do so .

    a full-gainer into the pool of reckless abandon .

    and it feels good .

    should this have a cleansing effect , i will be the better for it .

    and if it fails ,
    then , perhaps , i deserve it ,
    for letting al koholic feel like the lone stranger ,
    when he admitted to sitting f-her , back on june 30th , in nyc .

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