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We at Razzball realize that exporting our views across the country has damaging consequences on the blogosphere. To help make amends, we are reaching out to leading team blogs and featuring their locally blogged answers to pressing 2012 fantasy baseball questions regarding their team. We feel this approach will be fresher, more sustainable, and require less energy consumption (for us anyway). The 2012 Rays Fantasy Baseball Preview comes courtesy of Jason Collette from DRaysBay.

1) I have Evan Longoria as my preseason 2012 MVP pick.  This is the year, friend.  According to me.  Live with me for a second (not literally) and give me your most optimistic line for Longoria.

Ignore the easy route and looking at his insanely low BABIP last year and look at the narrative. He strained his oblique in Game 2 of the season and missed 26 games because of it. He came back only to develop a nerve issue in his big toe on his right foot that did not allow him to properly get into baseballs like good hitters want to do. He didn’t get to 100% until somewhere around mid-June, right about the same time Matt Joyce cooled off from his rocket-fueled streak in May. Now, let’s get back to that BABIP. His plate appearance and batted ball results were nearly identical to what they were in 2010: K%, BB%, pitches per plate appearance, G/L/F splits, swing rates, etc. Yet, his BABIP fell 97 points and was only over .225 in three of the five months in which he played last season. What quietly flew under the radar during his monster close to the season was that he walked more than he struck out from August 1st throughout the rest of the season and did so without sacrificing any power as he had 26 extra base hits in just 244 plate appearances. .285 with 220 R+RBI, 40 HR, & 10 SB is not crazy to predict.

2)  Desmond Jennings and I had a baby.  It was under-reported that’s why you didn’t hear it.  Okay, so I basically love all Rays (except Hellickson, we’ll get to him).  You’re a fantasy guy yourself, so you know how much the fantasy community loves Desmond Jennings.  Will we be disappointed or will he be a 2nd round pick in 2013?

I guess he took that maternity leave for most of September then. As awesome as he was in August, major league pitchers quickly found the holes in his swing in September and he proved time and time again he couldn’t lay off that high fastball and then got him making bad contact while protecting the plate after that. Dive into small sample size hell with me for a second and revisit the 17 games Jennings had after his 2 home run performance in Toronto. He hit .174/.278/.246 after that  with just two extra base hits as pitchers gave him a steady diet of those high fastballs until he finally started laying off them toward the end of the season. Durability is always a concern with him as he has only had one blemish-free professional season. I’ve seen him go in the top 50 in some drafts but that’s a risky move – not because of the talent but because of the durability issues.

3) Jeremy Hellickson’s 2011 was a mess outside of ERA.  This year his ERA catches up to his other peripherals.  True, false or I shall explain.

False. The “norm” is different in Tampa Bay. Joe Maddon employs more defensive shifts than any other manager in baseball and it is no mistake that the Rays pitching staff has had the lowest team BABIP each of the past four seasons. Sure, Longoria and Zobrist are elite defenders, but Jason Bartlett was no gem during his run here and Carlos Pena and Casey Kotchman aren’t terribly rangy side to side. Positioning is everything so a .223 BABIP against a team BABIP of .280 looks a bit better. Shields’ disastrous 2010 season is the only Rays’ starting pitcher to have a BABIP over .285 during that run as well. Hellickson is flyball heavy, but 25% of his flyballs in play never leave the infield as he induces a lot of bad contact. Also understand that his K/9 was problematic because he had John Jaso “catching” him often. Jaso is to catching what Rex Grossman is to quarterbacking. Hellickson had the lowest called strike three rate in baseball last season and thanks to the work of now Houston Astros front office guru Mike Fast, we know that Jose Molina is the best framing catcher in baseball. It is pretty easy to envision a caddy situation here as Hellickson is also susceptible to basestealers in that he isn’t quick to home plate. Molina’s framing and throwing were an early Christmas present for the young kid out of Iowa.

4) How many innings do we see from Matt Moore this year?  Does he break camp with the team?  I’ve already dropped my Matt Moore fantasy.  Now yours please.

The Rays like to keep increases from season to season at 20%, but it’s with pitch counts, not innings pitched. As long as Moore isn’t turning in Scott Kazmir 2009 specials early in the season, I see no reason why he would be under any kind of restriction in September unless the team is not contending. Then again, after what happened in 2011, the Rays would probably need to be 14 games out for the front office to throw in the white flag. We are 20 days from pitchers and catchers reporting and the Rays still have six starting pitchers. Seven when you factor in the strong likelihood of Alex Cobb going to extended spring training and eight if you consider Alex Torres could pitch in the back end of most rotations in baseball right now. Putting Davis and/or Niemann in the bullpen does nothing to help their trade value, and the bullpen is already a bit crowded with guaranteed spots for Farnsworth, Peralta, Rodney, Howell, and likely McGee. Moore is already under contract so the typical model of the team sending him down past the Super Two deadline is out of the way and if the team did send him down, the fans (insert joke here) would boo louder than they boo a B.J. Upton strikeout looking. The run support should be there this year, much like Hellickson enjoyed last season so if he is up for the full season as a starter, 12+ wins, 180+ K’s is expected, not hoped for.

5) Do Tampa Bay Ray fans live in fear of the day that Andrew Friedman finds out that Jews aren’t supposed to live in Tampa until they collect Social Security?

There’s a rumor that Friedman has part ownership in the team which is why he has turned down lucrative jobs elsewhere. That tells us he is hoping to turn a profit when the team is eventually relocated to a more appreciative market so he can cash in his chips just in time to re-enter a recovering Wall Street market and make more millions to buy his own Island. As long as Gerry Hunsicker is still in the organization, the thought of Friedman leaving is easier to digest. Losing Dan Feinstein to Oakland was a tough talent bleed for the front office but adding former fantasy guru and now scout extraordinaire Jason Grey to the front office was a nice trade-off. Besides, with Jason Grey out of the way, maybe I can finally finish in the top 3 in AL Tout Wars.

59 Responses

  1. chata says:
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    Jason :

    Thank you for taking the time , again this year , to respond to Grey’s
    inquisitive and probing questions .
    Again , you have provided valuable insight .
    Certainly , in my mind , you have been the “go-to” guy for all things Rays .

    (Though , a couple of years back , your respect for Nelson Cruz and that
    power-house Ranger offense , made me question your loyalty , I came to realize that it was the fantasy baseball purist , in you , that was speaking ,
    and , in that , there were lessons to be learned .)

    Good luck with your quest for a top finish in this year’s AL Tout Wars .
    And , if you’re still doing that “win-a-cruise” league over at that “other” site , my wishes are with you there , as well , even at the expense of our own Rudy and Grey’s teams . (Geez , I hope that they’re not reading this comment) .

    Again , I appreciate and admire your stick-to-itiveness and look forward to
    learning more from you in the future .

    Much thanks .
    big o

  2. Pig Charmer says:
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    It would be crazy to judge Hellickson by his first full season in the bigs. Sure he had a low BABIP but it’s one season. Look at his ridiculous minor leage numbers. I’m not sure what your opinion was on Madison Bumgarner going into 2011 but I imagine you shared the same opinion considering he had low K totals his first year (2010) in the bigs. Elite prospects like these guys still need some time to develop. Hellboy probably isn’t going to be a sub-3.00 ERA pitcher but he will continue to get rising K totals and should win a lot of games with a low to mid 3.00′s ERA sooner than later. This kid wasn’t compared to Maddux by accident.

  3. Eddy says:
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    Wow, those are some very interesting notes on Hellickson.

    While I’ll still avoid him and probably go all in for him in 2013, if I do somehow end up with him in 2012, I won’t be that disappointed.

    @Grey

    I want to pick your brain for a second. I remember you said that you weren’t going anywhere near Dunn this season. But I want to know why. Traditionally you’ve always been about the bounce back guys that no one wants (Latos in 2012, Kemp in 2011, Hamels in 2010). But you’re suddenly staying away from Dunn?

    We know you love to use peripherals as a sign to point out why a player will bounce back, and you’ve undoubtedly seen Dunn’s. He was WAY off on his BABIP, ISO, IFFB%, and HR/FB among others. And as you say often for struggling hitters, he just simply started pressing.

    There’s just simply no way you’re turning your back on a player who from 2004-10 never hit less than 38 HR, less than 100 RBIs once, and an OBP of less than .354 once.

    Most projections have him at 20-25 HR/ 70 runs/ 70 RBI/ .345ish OBP in about 450-500 ABs. The way I see it, those numbers represent the absolute worst-case scenario, not the best case.

    Now, I understand if he were getting drafted in the 10th or something. But this is someone currently going no earlier than the 20th.

    Please enlighten me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Eddy, Bounce back from a Latos or Kemp, two guys that were like 25 years old is a lot different than expecting a fat 32-year-old who wasn’t very athletic to begin with… History isn’t kind to the big-bellied when it comes to declining skills…

      • Eddy says:
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        @Grey,

        But one thing is slowly declining, another is falling off the face of the earth. And again, I have to point out the rounds he’s getting drafted (if drafted at all). This is a round where you normally draft flyers who you’ll drop for the first player to go 3/4 on opening day.

        You seriously think a 30 HR season is out of the question for him?

        • Grey

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          @Eddy, I do because I think the White Sox have to move in a different direction and Dunn will become a bench bat for a playoff contender. Like Berkman on the Yankees that one year. Is it absurd to take him in the end rounds? No, you’re taking flyers, if you need power it’s worth a shot. I think it might be for naught though.

          • Eddy says:
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            @Grey,

            Hmm, I don’t know. I guess it depends on how Robin Ventura uses him. And don’t managers get pushed by the front office to start players who have just signed a big contract? Dunn is still owed $44 million over the next three seasons. Relegating him to a bench role is basically the White Sox saying, “Sorry, we screwed up.”

            I predict that he’s in the starting lineup from the get go, and then, if he flails as bad as he did last year, he’ll get 3-4 starts a week.

            For now I’ll just hope he’s 2012′s Lance Berkman then.

  4. Tom Thumb says:
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    As a huge Rays fan and close follower of all things Rays, Jason has definitely been a great source of insight. Following him on Twitter has been really informative and he is often willing to respond to questions. Great review.

    That being said, I do think we see some regression from Hellickson this year, although I mostly agree with Jason. Hellboy’s IFFB % was unreal high last year (Matt Cain 2010 high) and as we know, FB pitchers that can induce weak or IFFB can outperform FIP. Hellickson’s xFIP numbers look ugly for sure, but a large part of that is the inherent bias against FB pitchers and also his diminished K-Rate. I would find it hard to believe his K Rate isn’t at least 7 this year.

    The biggest questions that linger for me are whether the Rays can make some move to get an offensive catcher and can Brignac be a serviceable bat. I think it’s more likely they see what they have in Chirinos and Lobaton but Molina being a first-time full-time (insert hyphenated words here) catcher at 36 smells fishy.

    Anyway, great review and thanks to both of you!

  5. RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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    2nd mock draft of the season and I think I did alright. I can see AVG and SB being a potential issue, but I have power to burn that I would be able to flip if need be. What do you think, Grey? Also, will there be a Razzball draft tool for 2012?

    I think with the lack of OF depth this year, I may be going 1B/OF/OF/OF in the 1st 4 rounds in any 5 OF leagues I’m in.

    Final Roster
    Pos Name Team Pick
    C Miguel Montero ARI R10 P6
    C Russell Martin NYY R23 P7
    1B Paul Konerko CHW R5 P7
    1B Ike Davis NYM R16 P6
    2B Howie Kendrick ANA R7 P7
    2B Aaron Hill ARI R22 P6
    SS J.J. Hardy BAL R12 P6
    3B Evan Longoria TB R1 P7
    OF Mike Stanton MIA R2 P6
    OF Andrew McCutchen PIT R3 P7
    OF Hunter Pence PHI R4 P6
    OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R11 P7
    OF Logan Morrison MIA R14 P6
    DH Adam Dunn CHW R21 P7
    SP Mat Latos CIN R6 P6
    SP Dan Hudson ARI R8 P6
    SP Matt Moore TB R9 P7
    SP Anibal Sanchez MIA R13 P7
    SP Brandon Morrow TOR R18 P6
    SP Roy Oswalt FA R20 P6
    RP Andrew Bailey BOS R15 P7
    RP Rafael Betancourt COL R17 P7
    RP Frank Francisco NYM R19 P7

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice, There will be a draft tool. I don’t think steals would be a problem considering you’d be able to drop Dunn and pick up a SAGNOF guy. Your pitching looks better than your hitting but your hitting still looks solid. I’m only guessing this is a 12 team league, I have no idea.

      • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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        @Grey,

        Pretty much standard 12 team 5×5 with 2 C, 5 OF, CI, MI. Thanks for your analysis. Looking forward to the draft tool!

        PS – the new comment section format us IMMENSELY helpful. It used to be nearly impossible to follow what question you were answering without constant back and forth scrolling. Big improvement IMO.

        Cheers!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice, Cool, assumed it was 12 team so what I said works. Glad you like the new comments.

      • Jay29 says:
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        @Grey, FYI you can tell his is a 12-team league because his snake draft picks are either #6 or #7 in each round.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @Jay29, Yeah, good point.

    • JoeC says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice, I like this team overall, but yeah, you diagnosed your own weaknesses correctly: BA and Steals.

      Really like your starting pitching, but dislike your bullpen. Don’t trust Bailey to stay healthy, Betancourt blows Saves like they’re party balloons and I trust Frank-Frank about as far as I can throw him (not far).

  6. sandles says:
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    @Grey & Razzball community!
    Just finished a slow mock draft.
    27 rounds: 12 teams(H2H & 5*5)
    8th pick
    C: G. Soto
    1B: A. Lind
    2B: D. Uggla
    3rd: E. Longoria
    SS: Z. Cozart
    OF: M. Stanton, J. Bruce & B.J. Upton
    UT: R. Howard & K. Young
    SP: Z. Greinke, M. Latos, J. Zimmerman, T. Cahill & T. Stauffer
    RP: Santos & Sokia
    Bench:
    Hitters

    • SwaggerJackers says:
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      @sandles, A little heavy on the power at the expense of average. Uggla, Stanton, Howard, Bruce and Upton = .250 average on a good week.

  7. sandles says:
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    @Grey & Razzball community!
    Just finished a slow mock draft.
    27 rounds: 12 teams(H2H & 5*5)
    8th pick
    C: G. Soto
    1B: A. Lind
    2B: D. Uggla
    3rd: E. Longoria
    SS: Z. Cozart
    OF: M. Stanton, J. Bruce & B.J. Upton
    UT: R. Howard & K. Young
    SP: Z. Greinke, M. Latos, A. Sanchez, T. Cahill & T. Stauffer
    RP: Santos & Sokia
    Bench
    Hitters(had to be hitters): Stubbs, Bourjos, V. Wells, B. Belt & Altuve
    Pitching(had to be SP): Peacock, Volquez, Cecil & S. Baker
    What do you all think?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @sandles, Looks very bad on average and slightly poor on steals. Pitching looks great, probably too good.

      • sandles says:
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        @Grey,
        Thanks Grey for your feedback!
        Maybe a couple of swaps?
        Kendricks instead of Uggla
        A. Jones instead of B.J. Upton
        Gardner instead of D. Stubbs
        A. Escobar instead of Z. Cozart

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @sandles, The first three changes would’ve helped. 4th is neither here nor there.

  8. exactly says:
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    @Grey: when it comes to 2B value, I keep reading about the following names: Zobrist (who you dislike, but I like – in that lineup with his position flex and 20/20 potential…sign me up!), Kendrick, Kipnis, Altuve, and Kelly Johnson. In a 12 team H2H Points league, which do you like best? Earlier values like Zobrist/Kendrick around 7-9, Kipnis around 13-15 or Altuve/KJ at 19+?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @exactly, Earlier values if you have a MI spot… Shouldn’t punt 2nd base and shortstop and if you’re punting something, punt SS.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @exactly, Altuve/KJ are MIs.

      • exactly says:
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        @Grey, thanks for the tip…don’t know if you’re the same way, but I always fall in love with sleepers and underachievers like Altuve and KJ and figure I can stock up on other positions. Ideally, I’m grabbing Votto or Longo in the 1st, McCutchen in the 2nd, and a stud SP in the 3rd, so I’ll probably miss out on cano, kinsler and pedroia…and end up with Zobrist or Kendrick…you like?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @exactly, Yeah, that works.

  9. Mark says:
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    I did a few Mocks earlier in the year but here’s the first one I did semi-seriously:

    C Matt Wieters
    C Devin Mesoraco
    1B Miguel Cabrera
    2B Ben Zobrist (RF)
    3B Brett Lawrie
    SS Jose Reyes
    OF BJ Upton
    OF Jason Heyward
    OF Peter Bourjos
    OF Brandon Belt (1B)
    OF Alex Presley
    UT Alex Rios
    CI Lucas Duda (1B,OF)
    MI Jason Kipnis
    SP Felix Hernandez
    SP Zack Greinke
    RP Ryan Madson
    RP Sergio Santos
    P Matt Garza
    P Corey Luebke
    P Brandon Morrow
    P Mike Minor
    P Kyle Farnsworth
    BN Nolan Reimold
    BN Nick Hundley
    BN Francisco Liriano (R26, last round, FWIW lol, just couldn’t bring myself to draft Duffy over him, Erik Bedard was my other consideration)

    In hindsight, I could have drafted Kelly Johnson instead of Alex Rios (he was available) since I took Zobrist partly for his multi-position eligibility.

    I wouldn’t usually draft a pitcher as early as Felix, but I didn’t see any other values I liked in the middle of the third round. David Wright was a consideration, but I thought Hernandez was a similar type of value there and with Cabrera as my first rounder and Reyes in the second I thought I was off to a good enough start on offense to take the plunge on an elite SP.

    I took Nick Hundley as a backup for Mesoraco in case he’s not getting enough PT, with the idea that I could drop Mesoraco if he wasn’t playing enough or trade him for his inflated name/prospect value if he was and still have a solid, cheap 2nd Catcher.

    Brett Lawrie would also be trade candidate if he got off to a hot start and Cabrera got 3B eligibility quick.

    The MDC projections were a bit worried about my power and ERA. I do think power could be a slight issue, but wouldn’t be too worried about it–I suspect I’m expecting more playing time from Duda and Reimold than they are, though Belt could be the gamble that makes or breaks my power projection. As for ERA, it was really drafting Morrow and Minor that the projection didn’t seem too crazy about, but they were both pretty cheap and I’m not terribly worried about either.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mark, F-Her and Greinke are too much in combo. Your hitting’s a bit of a mess. Your hitting is almost all upside gambles.

  10. adam says:
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    I play in a 12 team 5×5 with an innings cap of 1400… why would i not draft five or six top closers and a couple of big k middlemen and then nab up some sp’s with high k rates towards the end of the draft. my thinking is even if i get dead last in wins i could win k’s, era, whip and saves. also not taking sps early would allow me to rack up good bats

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @adam, And if closers don’t work out you’re screwed… Lot more turnover with top closers than top starters.

    • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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      @adam, you would never win K’s without having top SP’s. 200 K’s compared to “top middle men” who may get 110 at the most. you’re basically giving up 2 categories, and would have to win all the batting categories to even compete.

  11. Aaron says:
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    Which prospect do your prefer for 2012 and beyond: Jennings or Lawrie? I just received Jennings in a trade and could possibly wind up flipping him for Lawrie. The power/steals combo at 3B intrigues me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Aaron, Jennings

  12. anon says:
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    Grey – remember either last year or year before you posted a link with a bunch of C and D list celebrities that were charging like $25 to call people? I believe it was part of prize for winning the RCL. Do you remember that URL? I want to read that absurd list of names again. I am reminded of this because I am watching Multiplicity and John De Lancie is in this movie and I remember he was DEFINITELY on that list. Also, nice job on the ranks again I will be 100% in on razzball again as usual.

      • anon says:
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        @Grey, Thanks! I am happy to announce that Lou Ferrigno is making an encouraging motivational call to my friend within the next 7 days at a time that is convenient to Lou Ferrigno.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @anon, Make sure your friend doesn’t make him angry.

  13. Westly says:
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    Hey Grey, whats your take on Brett Anderson in Dynasy Roto leagues? I have him on a resign and don’t know if he’s worth locking up for 2 years to see if he can come back or saying screw it he pitches for the A’s anyway and cut him free. What are your thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Westly, He was due back in July, that’s since moved to August. His timetable is already moving back which means we’ll see him in 2013.

  14. Black Beard says:
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    First mock of the year. What do you say?

    Player Team Acquired
    1B Prince Fielder DET R1 P12
    1B Adam LaRoche WAS R27 P12
    1B Derrek Lee FA R29 P12
    2B Aaron Hill ARI R17 P12
    2B Kelly Johnson TOR R18 P1
    3B David Wright NYM R3 P12
    SS Hanley Ramirez MIA R2 P1
    C Wilson Ramos WAS R15 P12
    C Kurt Suzuki OAK R22 P1
    OF Carl Crawford BOS R4 P1
    OF Shin-Soo Choo CLE R5 P12
    OF Chris Young ARI R10 P1
    OF Nick Markakis BAL R11 P12
    OF Jeff Francoeur KC R16 P1
    OF Vernon Wells ANA R19 P12
    OF Grady Sizemore CLE R21 P12
    OF Alex Rios CHW R23 P12
    OF Jason Bay NYM R24 P1
    DH Billy Butler KC R9 P12
    SP Stephen Strasburg WAS R6 P1
    SP Mat Latos CIN R7 P12
    SP Ian Kennedy ARI R8 P1
    SP Tim Hudson ATL R14 P1
    SP Alexi Ogando TEX R25 P12
    SP Gavin Floyd CHW R26 P1
    SP Ted Lilly LA R28 P1
    RP Jonathan Papelbon PHI R12 P1
    RP Sergio Santos TOR R13 P12
    RP Dan Bard BOS R20 P1
    RP Vinnie Pestano CLE R30 P1

    • Black Beard says:
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      @Black Beard, forgot the details:

      5×5, non keeper, 2xC, 5xOF, CI, MI, Util, 9P (no RP/SP), 7 bench spots.

    • Grey

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      @Black Beard, What really matters is how many teams. Looks like 12 teams from where you picked. Your pitching is way too strong and your hitting is terrible. Why do you have quality over quantity? It looks like you have ten outfielders. You don’t need to take 3 top starters back to back.

      • Black Beard says:
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        @Grey, in my defense I only drafted 9 OFs. In your defense, it appears I’ve learned nothing in all my years reading razzball.

        • Grey

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          @Black Beard, I wouldn’t go that far, it’s just a mock.

          • Black Beard says:
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            @Grey, all in good fun. I had a strategy going in. Got derailed and tried something different. I’m not gonna go all Marla Daniels and quit playing.

  15. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    Got to love weekend posts! Grey, what got in your coffee?!?!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, Alize

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey, Ew.

  16. SwaggerJackers says:
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    Does anyone know any good baseball websites that are up to date with the latest projected opening day lineups? I know there is a lot that is still undecided but I’m curious where things currently stand.

    • Tony says:
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      @SwaggerJackers, give it time swagger, haha…. its only FEB. 5th

      • SwaggerJackers says:
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        @Tony, I know it’s early…just wondering if any sites are attempting to sort them out yet. Most of the ones I’ve come across still show Fielder on the Brewers and other outdated info. It’s possible the answer is simply “no” but there are some diehard fans around here that might have some insights.

        • JoeC says:
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          @SwaggerJackers, I’d look at the major fan blogs for each team (perhaps the ones that Razzball does the team reports with).

  17. chata says:
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    @ Grey :

    ok .
    i’ll admit it .
    am watching the stupor bowl .

    was wondering what baseball would be like if ,
    after every hit , ichiro danced a jig .

    • JoeC says:
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      @chata, I tried to avoid it as well, but I got sucked in! Pretty good game. I guess parity is the norm now in the NFL, which is good, as it makes for more entertaining Super Bowls. Nothing worst than a 55-10 blowout, even if you’re cheering for the winning team.

  18. Thanks for the feedback, all. I’ve been on a cruise all weekend so this is my first chance to respond without paying $20 a mb

    • JoeC says:
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      @Jason Collette, Where’d you go? I’ve never been on a cruise before. I would go on a poker cruise for sure!

  19. @JoeC, Monarch of the Seas boat which is in the Royal Caribbean fleet. Went to Nassau (meh) and their private island (excellent) on a 3 day/2 night bachelor party with the groom and 12 others. Great boat for the price. Room, food, drinks came in ~$450

  20. dingbat says:
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    “if the team did send him down, the fans (insert joke here) would boo louder than they boo a B.J. Upton strikeout looking. ”

    Call me old-fashioned, but I was raised never to boo a B.J.

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