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Ryan Zimmerman went into last year with a bum wrist, which was enough for me to be down on him — Beavis, “Hehe, Grey was down on him.” — I didn’t want any part of Zimmerman.  Then when he came down with an injured shoulderitis or some shizz, I backed away slowly from him like when your friend tells you he got herpes from his cousin.  It all smelled bad like a skunk in a microwave.  There was no way I was drafting Ryan Zimmerman last year.  And my concerns were confirmed, as Zimmerman put up some yawnstipating numbers, 51/14/51/.283/1.  Those numbers look similar to the numbers Ryan Howard can put up in one month.  So why am I touting Ryan Zimmerman as a 2009 fantasy sleeper?

In September of last year, Ryan Zimmerman went 14/5/13/.290 in 93 ABs.  5 home runs in that final month shows me the surgery he had on his shoulder last summer took, and there’s no reason to have any worries about lingering problems.  Oh, bee-tee-dubya, he’s still only 24 years old.  He won’t make huge strides in his power numbers for 2009.  He’s not going to explode for 40 HRs.  He’s not that type of hitter.  But 100/20/100/.290/7 is not a completely unrealistic floor for Zimmerman.  That’s right, floor.  He can go above those numbers.  Since he’s going late in drafts, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t grab him as your 3rd baseman if you punted that earlier.  Or grab him as your corner man.  Ryan Zimmerman is not going to save your team, but he’s a decent fantasy sleeper.

  1. Christopher says:

    “Since he’s going late in drafts, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t grab him as your 3rd baseman if you punted that earlier. ”

    Interesting scenario, someone punting 3B and SS to grab Zimm and Alexei late.

  2. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Christopher: Alexei’s not going to go very late, unless you switch out all of your leaguemates fantasy baseball magazines with last year’s.

  3. AJ says:

    Love me some Zimm. If I don’t get the first pick, or Wright early, or Davis mid, Zimm is one I’ll target.

  4. Christopher says:

    @Grey: Sorry, your right about Alexei. I should prolly rephrase the statement to read:

    “punting 3B and SS for Zimm late and Alexei somewhere in Rd 4-6.”

    Still, not a bad idea if you can’t get one of the bigguns at 3B and can stack OF or 1B/Util, huh?

  5. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Christopher: Yeah, you’re still on target.

  6. waters96 says:

    @Grey – In Yahoo rankings, Garrett Atkins is 64, Chipper is 65, and Zimmerman is 69, making them all 6th round picks. In my Yahoo mocks, I’ve been picking Chipper in 6th, then Atkins if Chipper’s gone. So, in Yahoo leagues, would you take Zimmerman in the 6th if both Chipper and Atkins are gone? Or wait and pick up one of the Schmohawks much later?

  7. @waters96: Just curious — are you looking at the rankings, or the ADP?

    In Yahoo!, you can go to Draft Central and see which rounds people are generally picking players. Right now, Zim’s avg pick is 93.2, putting him in the 8th round — which makes much more sense than the 6th.

  8. big o says:

    i can understand if you want to have a man-crush , or share the love , or whatever you want to call it , for zimmerman , but 100 RUNS ??

    sorry …. completely unbelievable . not even if he had 700 AB’s !

    has ANY nat ever scored 100 runs ?

  9. Grey

    Grey says:

    @waters96: Zimmerman in the 6th is too early.

    @big o: Zimmerman will be the first Nat to just for you, you non-believer. BTW, where have you been? Did you sign up for a RCL?

  10. waters96 says:

    @Baron – Good point. I’m actually looking at the pre-rankings. I don’t have the Yahoo ADP’s in front of me. But the main point I’m making is that Zimmerman is not going to be a late round sleeper. He won’t drop much below the 6th or 7th round due to Autopicking.

  11. waters96 says:

    @Baron – I’m bad in math, but 93 is still the 8th round and in my three mocks, he’s been going no further than 10 picks below his pre-rank. But I can’t ignore the fact that if his ADP is 93, that means he’s dropping lower than that around half the time, which would send him to the 9th and make the pick more intersting.

  12. Grey

    Grey says:

    @waters96: Zimmerman’s at 123 in ESPN’s rankings. And you shouldn’t be in leagues with auto-pickers.

  13. @waters96: His avg round in Yahoo! is 8.2, so early in the 8th. I suspect that’s where he goes in most leagues, because after that, who is there at 3B? Joe Crede?

    Totally unrelated: Grey, what’s your take on Chase Headley this year? Is he a Petco casualty?

  14. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: He probably doesn’t have 3rd base eligibility, which takes the shine off a bit.

  15. @Grey: In Yahoo! he does, probably because he rounded 3rd once.

    I generally avoid Arlington pitchers and Petco hitters. Simplistic, I know, but I’m a simpleton. Exceptions in ’09: Frank Francisco and, possibly, Chase “Max” Headley.

  16. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Wow, weird, cause he had only 7 games at 3rd last year. I thought even Y!’s system accounted for at least 10 GP.

  17. waters96 says:

    @Grey and Baron – IMO, M. Cabrera has extra value in Yahoo because he has 1B and 3B eligibility due to the 5 start/10 appearances rule.

  18. Grey

    Grey says:

    @waters96: He’s already #6 overall, he’s not gaining much more value than that.

  19. Steve says:

    @Grey: @waters96: Is it fair to say that any extra value lies in a little added flexibility that you have as the first 2-3 rounds unfolds? You could treat him as a 3B and maybe go Prince with your second pick (that’s some weight at the corners there, boy), or consider him a 1B and perhaps go a top OF (Lee?) and then hope for A-Ram in the third.
    Cust kayin’.

  20. @Steve: I think that’s definitely true. Position eligibility is even more handy in a draft than in the actual season, b/c in a draft you’re still picking your team.

    So if a guy you take early fits at 2 or 3 slots (like Miggy or Alexei or, I think, Berkman) that gives more flexibility to snatch someone late who falls in your lap.

    Conversely, taking a Util guy like Ortiz or Hafner really ties your hands later on. So don’t do that.

  21. @Steve: p.s. holy shizz, Steve, how did you get to 1079 comments? Are you Grey’s Siamese twin or something?

  22. Steve says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Well, I do visit several times a day and was here keeping Grey company during the very early offseason.

    It should be noted that only 79 of those comments actually relate to fantasy baseball.

  23. Steve says:

    @Grey: Not if you remove all those comments about his pitching keepers.

  24. Fman99 says:

    @Baron Von Vulturewins:

    I believe Berkman played only at 1B last year, no OF time at all. Yahoo lists him only as a 1B.

  25. big o says:

    i like your idea of holding down the corners with heavy-weights .

    baron’s comment # 14 is eerily similiar to your “random italicized voice” ?

    i feel a little left out .
    almost thought about getting a “pet rock” , way back when .
    (i wonder if hippo still has his).

  26. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: @Steve: 754 of my comments were professing my love for Ludwick, 250 for my pitcing staff, only one for my pet rock.

    The others were just about random topics. Carry on…..

  27. James says:

    Davis or Zimmerman – who do you want at the end of the season?

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