This young Angels starter, Reid Detmers, isn’t also a great hitter so why do we care? In this 14,000 word essay, I will explain to you how Reid’s not Ohtani, but he is Okay-to-me! Okay-i, first-y thingy first-y, let’s read Reid, reed, read, Reid, read, reed–What’s wrong with you? Broken record-itis? Here’s what others before me have said on Reid Detmers, then I will rejoin you on the other side (it’s a lot, but what the heck, let’s do it). Here’s Prospect Hobbs from the top 10 college prospects to target in dynasty leagues, “Several players on this list would be ranked ahead of Reid Detmers if this were solely about upside, but it’s not. I’d be hard-pressed to tell you to pick up and hold a prospect not destined to reach the pro circuit for several years. So although many feel Detmers projects as a middle-of-the-rotation guy who sits around 90-94 MPH with his fastball, he has elite command and pitchability and should move more quickly through the minors than many of the arms that are drafted before him this June.” Side note from Grey, Hobbs was right that Detmers would move through the minors fast. Detmers debuted in the majors this past year to garbage results (7.40 ERA), but it was only 20 2/3 IP and he’s still 22 years old. So, what can we expect from Reid Detmers for 2022 fantasy baseball? Or, rather: Let’s get back to Hobbs!

“Detmers is a southpaw with three pitches that all grade at 50-plus on the 20-80 scale. As mentioned previously, he sits low-to-mid 90s with his fastball, which is paired with a mid-70s curveball and sinking changeup. He’s a strike-thrower with a smooth, repeatable delivery, meaning he already possesses many of the attributes most other college pitchers will spend added time in the minors smoothing out.” Note from Grey: While Hobbs is talking pitches, let’s look at some!

That’s a wicked curve. In that it’s a curve that sings Popular with Kristin Chenoweth. Wait, that might not track. Let’s see a slider that Hobbs hasn’t even mentioned:

Hobbs did say a lot about a fastball, so how about one of those cheese jammies:

I likey! Okay, let’s go back to Hobbs.

“Still, his readiness as a MLB-caliber starter alone isn’t quite enough to rank him here. So why then? Because Detmers struck out 167 batters in 113.1 innings in 2019 (13.29 K/9) en route to a 2.78 ERA and .177 BAA, while setting 48 batters down on strikes in just 22 innings (19.64 K/9) to begin the 2020 campaign. At the college level, we don’t always possess the advanced metrics to evaluate players to the same ability as we do at the professional level, but allow me to unpack this one for you: we’re being told Detmers projects as a middle-of-the-rotation starter with comps to a Brendan McKay with less stuff, yet the guy is sporting a curveball that eclipses 2,700 RPMs and sports elite K/9 numbers while showing an increased ability to miss bats as he matures as a pitcher.”

“Remember when Yu Darvish was being scouted by MLB teams in 2011 and was projected as a No. 3-4 starter in the big leagues? Or when Aaron Nola was drafted seventh overall in 2014 despite being saddled with a No. 3 starter ceiling? Yeah, I see room for steady and rapid growth by Detmers here, and if he fails, he can always pair that wicked breaking ball with a couple ticks up on the heater and become an elite bullpen weapon.” Uh, Grey checking in again. Did Hobbs say bullpen? I don’t like that. Don’t want to project that. Okay finally wrapping up this world’s longest quote:

“Jump on Detmers if you’re looking for someone primed to move more quickly through the farm, but be warned that he isn’t ranked as highly in other draft pools as many of the players to follow.” Okay, that’s Hobbs, then Prospect Itch added, “I’m slightly less bullish than Hobbs but not much less.” Grey popping in: Less bullish? Hobbs said bullpen weapon. Elite, but still. I’m still reeling on that a little. Okay, back to Itch, “Command can be the great separator at the top level. Detmers can be a special pitcher. Couldn’t agree more with Hobbs on the No. 3 starter stuff. That’s just content. Short-hand jargon that represents the safest stance to take on just about any pitcher. But it’s notable that people don’t say back-end starter. No. 3 kind of means No. 2 but it’s tough to put that on most prospects so I’ll say he’s a number three. Grey? He’s a number two, but not as in a pitcher, but as in a turd.” Okay, not cool, moving on! Not my usual modus operandi to just pull a bunch of quotes, but I agree with both of them, and they really dug in, so didn’t think I had much to add.

Detmers looks like a middle-of-the-rotation guy who can be a number two. Nola and Darvish were brought up; I’ll throw out Luis Castillo. He seemed like a number three, and at times in the majors, he’s been that, but he has ace and number two starter moments. Detmers’s curveball truly is a “Why bother swinging at that pitch” for hitters, and if Detmers gets it over, then it’s bye-bye from Uncle Charlie. Detmers does get it over too. Can you imagine peppering that curve to lefties? Righties have no chance, lefties really would be a ‘why bother.’ It’s like swinging a drumstick at a fly. If he finds the right pitch sequence, Detmers could be number one. His high for innings, as far as I can tell, was around 113 IP in college, but that was a few years ago. My guess is the Angels give him a chance to break camp, but even if he does (which I doubt), he’s gonna struggle to throw more than 130 IP. For 2022, I’ll give Reid Detmers projections of 6-8/3.93/1.24/151 in 128 IP.

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Brian M Naftzger
Brian M Naftzger
9 months ago

Can only keep 12. Trying to figure out if Detmers should be kept. 12 team 23 man roster and 17 man reserve roster. My 3 reserves are Marte, Freeman and Martin.

Player Year Contract
Rafael Devers 23o $31
Luis Robert 23o $30
Ryan Mountcastle 23o $19
Adolis Garcia 23o $17
Isiah Kiner-Falefa 23o $16
Eloy Jimenez 23o $12
Andrew Vaughn 23o $12
Kiki Hernandez 23o $8
Bobby Bradley 23o $5
Willie Calhoun 23o $4
Kyle Isbel 23o $2
Logan Gilbert 23o $10
Brady Singer 23o $9
Emannuel Clase 23o $8
John Means 23o $5
Shane Baz 23o $5
Reid Detmers 23o $5
Peter Fairbanks 23o $4
Kris Bubic 23o $2
Josh Staumount 23o $1
#Noelvi Marte 23o $2
#Tyler Freeman 23o $2
#Austin Martin 23o $2

TarmanGotHim
TarmanGotHim
9 months ago

Hey Grey!

I’m going to ask you again now, and again closer to Spring Training:

Keep 7 in a 12 Team H2H Yahoo! 6X6
R HR RBI SB OPS AVG
K ERA WHIP S+H K:9 QS

Keep 7:

My draft Position will be 8th Overall as unfortunately I finished 5th. I have won the league 2 out of 4 years and missed the Semifinals on the last hour of the last day this season.

Who I am keeping:
Juan Soto – OF
Luis Robert – OF
Bryce Harper – OF
Matt Olson – 1B
Max Muncy – 3B
Shane Bieber – SP

Final spot:

Dansby Swanson – SS
Jazz Chisholm Jr. – 2B
Trevor Rogers – SP
Pablo Lopez – SP
Alek Manoah – SP
Tyler Mahle – SP

I know how deep Pitching is and I can either keep Swanson or Chisholm and draft pitcher heavy in the first half of the draft or keep Rogers or Manoah.

I’m so on the fence. What would you do? I mean my offense is so potent in an OPS AVG league look at the guys I’m keeping. I basically have 5 top 25 guys + Bieber. I really want Jazz but I know I can snag him in the draft at a reasonable price as opposed to Swanson who will go in the first couple of rounds. I believe I can snag Manoah at a reasonable price but Rogers will probably be drafted in the first couple of rounds too because I (as a biased Marlins fan lol) believe he is a top 30 Starter next season and on.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks!!

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
9 months ago

Grey,

Just got a trade offer.

I trade: Anthony Rizzo ($23), my 5th round pick in the minor league draft, and $5 in cash
I get: Robbie Ray ($13)

Make the deal?

Smitty
9 months ago

Gotta love crafty LHPs especially with high K rates. Southpaws with that type of stuff can shut down good lineups occasionally. If he continues to develop he has a chance. Thanks, have a great weekend

packers2018
packers2018
9 months ago

Keep all Dynasty 12 teamer.

Marsh or Bassitt?

packers2018
packers2018
Reply to  Grey
9 months ago

Thanks, I have Marsh trying to get a little more.

leon
leon
9 months ago

Jp crawford or Olivares(KC) dynasty, 16 man for 2022 and beyond

Sport
Sport
9 months ago

Man I love guys with high K/9! I’m really interested to take a flier on Detmers in the late rounds, and curious to see if anyone is selling low in my dynasties.

Am I wrong to want Detmers in round 22 or 23 vs. low k/9 guys like Ryu, Civale, Mize, Means, DeSclafani that will go round 13 or 14?

Coolwhip
9 months ago

Oh look… Angels Beat Reporter Coolwhip, checking in…

Yeah the slider is a relatively new pitch for him at the pro-level. He used it some in college and its more of a Slurve. But he wanted to try to incorporate it this year. The Curve for sure is his best pitch and very much looked unhittable at times in 2021. That’s his meal ticket to playing time and innings is maintaining command of the curve. He very much is feel pitcher which is where that “pitchability” comes from. If he can stay on top of it and avoid falling off of it like he did a few times this last year he’ll be their backend starter… pitching in Angel stadium certainly helps too.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Coolwhip
9 months ago

if i was the Angels, for at least the first part of this year after he’s up I would throw a opener in front of him (assuming we sign a decent bullpen LOL)

Smitty
Reply to  Coolwhip
9 months ago

Hey C-dub! Whadya think will it be Adell and Marsh in the OF with Trout?

Smitty
Reply to  Grey
9 months ago

I know right? One of the biggest burns in recent years

Coolwhip
Reply to  Smitty
9 months ago

i think both are given shot at playing time with Madden giving JUp more rest days to keep him fresh (and hopefully, not injured). So it could very well be the 3 OF splitting time at 2 spots… Trout would be playing LF on days that Marsh is in lineup at CF. At least that’s what I’d do. hahaha.

VinWins
VinWins
9 months ago

Brett Cecil Announces Retirement

Zeus
Zeus
Reply to  VinWins
9 months ago

I saw that and thought, brett Cecil was still playing?

Much like when Dean Stockwell died and I thought, that guy is still alive?

VinWins
VinWins
Reply to  Grey
9 months ago

“Yeah, that’s what made it postable!”

VinWins
VinWins
Reply to  Grey
9 months ago

haha…I guess I must have said that previous comment before I typed it, so I had to put it in quotes.

luvdarooks
9 months ago

I have Greene (cin) $2
Cavalli $2
Gore $5

all players get a $5 raise per year —ONCE I ACTIVATE THEM–in this $260 very deep NL only keeper league.

So looks like I can only keep ONE and must cut two or trade them.

What’s your take on who I should keep? Who is your second place?

DonnieB
DonnieB
9 months ago

Man,that is a Corbinprime slider. I think a lefty with a little movement gets by with a 93 mph fastball. I like him. How about Zac Gallen this year? I have him at $10. Is he a keeper? Any word on why the White Sox walked from Rodon? I have him at same price. Thanks for all your help.

Sport
Sport
Reply to  Grey
9 months ago

Rodon injured? Is this recent news revealed and would you not consider him an ‘ace’ moving forward?