Don’t think I’ve ever done a joint post before like this, which is not to say I’m smoking a joint while I write this. Brucely, that’s every post if that’s what we’re talking about. When I say I’m cashed out, I’m not talking about being negative on my bank account. Okay, I’m talking about that too. Casey Mize and Matt Manning go together like peanut butter and your dog staring at you with a look like, “Yo, Cousin Ownerpants, give me some of that shizz.” Casey Mize and Matt Manning go together like Casey Mize and me thinking of Tyra Banks telling someone to smize. Casey Mize and Matt Manning go together like a ladder and Jose Altuve’s kitchen. Is it just me or do you also imagine Jose Altuve’s house is like a mid-century library with ladders sliding along the walls to get cereal and drinking goblets? Altuve 1000% drinks from a goblet; don’t even try to tell me different. Any hoo! The 22-year-old Casey Mize and the 22-year-old-in-January Matt Manning are both in the Tigers’ minor league system, said Mr. Obvious. The Tigers took Mize 1st overall in the 2018 draft; Manning went 9th overall in 2016. Both have the pedigrees of potential aces, so how long until the Tigers trade them to other teams so they can win Cy Youngs? I kid, I kid! (I don’t kid; this is deathly serious.) So, what can we expect from Casey Mize and Matt Manning for 2020 fantasy baseball?

In June, Casey Mize hit the minor league IL with shoulder inflammation. He was sent to see Dr. James Andrews, and became the 1st pitcher ever to see Dr. James Andrews and not come away with a 12-14 month setback. It’s not great, either way. Pitching prospects are the gift that keep on giving and that gift is devastating injuries. Mize returned about six weeks later, but didn’t look nearly as effective. His final Double-A numbers were 78 2/3 IP, 8.7 K/9, 2.1 BB/9, 2.98 FIP. Can’t lie, that injury worries me and I’m afraid of ghosts and that Mize might need some major surgery before resting for 18 months and then returning to being an ace when he’s 24 years old. Specifics on his stuff:  double-plus splitter with a plus heater, slider, and control. It’s all purdy, and will purdify our fantasy teams if he’s healthy, but call me a worriwort because I’m worried and take St John’s wort.

Next up, Matt Manning in Double-A went 133 2/3 IP, 10 K/9, 2.6 BB/9, 2.53 FIP. Honestly, I think Manning’s numbers look better than Mize’s because Manning was healthy. Casey Mize is above Matt Manning for long-term potential; Matt Manning could see 2020 MLB action sooner. That’s getting information out of the way upfront after a bunch of stuff that was up in front of the upfront — upfronter? Bringing this back to one of the alluded to pitchers the Tigers traded away who became a Cy Younger, Rick Porcello was called up crazy fast, and thrown to the wolves (Tigers, I guess in this case), and Mize and Manning are already more polished, so putting our fingers on when Mize and Manning appear in the majors isn’t easy. Could be as soon as Opening Day to September. Honestly, I have no idea. I’m going to hedge like a great landscape architect and say June for both. It’s merely a guess. The guess is coming from the assumption that they both start in Triple-A this year, and breeze through for two months and the cries for them to get promoted become untenable by June. If I was being aggressive, I’d say Manning sees MLB time in April and, if I were being pessimistic, I’d say Mize gets shut down and we don’t see him at all this year in MLB. For 2020, I’ll give Casey Mize projections of 3-4/3.44/1.16/71 in 68 IP; Matt Manning projections 5-2/3.86/1.27/97 in 88 IP, and, for just 2020, I’m going to be a little more interested in Manning.

 
  1. Harley Earl says:
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    Hey Grey,

    You asked for suggestions, and I keep reading how Seth Beer will be up in 2020. How about something on the guy with the best last name in baseball? Haha!

    Yeah, I know, he’s probably going to stink but he did have a really good year through two levels and was on the All-Arizona Fall League team after a solid showing there. I’m looking for a 1B is why I ask!

    Thanks for your consideration!

  2. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Stats for 2019 of the following:

    Willie Calhoun
    83 games 309 at bats 83 hits 51 runs 21 homers 48 rbi 0 sb .269 ba .323 oba . 524 slugging

    Lourdes Gurriel
    84 games 314 at bats 87 hits 52 runs 20 homers 50 rbi 6 sb .277 ba . 327 oba . 541 slugging

    I have both on my dynasty team. 600+ at bats each and we cud be looking at two 40 homer guys!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, they’re both big-time on radars for 2020

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        It’s amazing on how similar there stats were, almost identical numbers. Also hearing the Jays are open to trading Lourdes for pitching.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, hope Lourdes lands somewhere decent if he is traded

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            Rockies are said to be looking to move Jon Grey..Grey for Lourdes..

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              That works for me!

  3. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    How about a prospect post for the Friars Mckenzie Gore.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Feels like a guy who I’ll do a post for next year at this time for 2021

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        Padres are saying Gore could debut for them in 2020.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hmm… When? September? I wonder if it’s posturing

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            You never know with Preller, he’s hard to figure.

            • Manny says:
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              Grey you are most likely correct, but remember how aggressive Preller was with Paddack. Also last Spring the Pads told Gore to expect a similar track if he performed like Paddack did. That was the incentive in needed, dominating all year & finishing in AA just like Paddack. If Gore is lights out unhittable in Spring Training, as was Paddack last year, I would not be surprised to see them take a similar approach. Stretch him out to 140 innings in MLB carefully just like Paddack last year.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I’d love for you to be correct… Not sure I agree tho.. Paddack is 3 years older, Gore feels like he’s bit further away, but, like I said, I hope you’re right

  4. Smitty says:
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    At least Gardy will have some young arms to rebuild a franchise in tatters

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tigers could be fun a year from now, but they need to hope Mize is healthy and play Manning

      • Sweatpants Nation says:
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        The Tigers don’t have much money tied up in long term contracts other than Miggy through 2023 and Zimmerman through this year. They could start looking at free agents again next year and build around Mize and Manning so agree about them being fun next year.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, they can turn around in a hurry

  5. Carl Sr says:
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    FML, 14 team dynasty 6×6 with OPS & QS, I am nearing being ready to compete, so I have Brendan Rodgers & Nico Hoerner that he wants for Javy Baez. I may not be fully competitive next season, but the season after when I have Kopech and Gore to anchor my staff. Is Baez worth acquiring now?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Baez

      • Harley Earl says:
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        Definitely, take Baez and don’t look back!!!

  6. TC says:
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    I’m holding on to Wander Franco and Mackenzie Gore in a 15 keeper league. I’m looking forward to your write ups next season. This is also coming off my first championship in that keeper league, thanks much to this site. Trouble is, I have enough to keep 20!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, good problem to have!

      • TC says:
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        Do you feel Wander makes a Soto/Acuña type impact in 2021, or will it take more time? I’m assuming he’s potentially at their level based on what I’ve read so far. Thanks.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          For sure, he feels like a top 50 overall pick for 2021 in redrafts, like Vlad was this preseason, then a top 20 overall pick in 2022 — of course, there’s possible strike that could fudge that up, but he will be special

  7. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Mike Fiers, wow.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, they 100% cheated — crazy

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        Astros should be stripped of the 2017 World Series Title.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d like to just see them replay the season

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            I am really really glad the Nats won it all this year, beating those cheaters 4 straight in the cheat box!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha, yeah! Damn, now hearing the Nats signaled changeup by playing Baby Shark

              • Malicious Phenoms says:
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                Lol, no way, seriously?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Haha, nah, kidding

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Only thing Nats were signaling by playing Baby Shark was a strikeout by Gerardo Parra

  8. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Astros should be stripped of the 2017 World Series Title.

  9. Curious George says:
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    Unrelated to the tigers pitchers, but I am curious why people are so high on ohtani in these early drafts? I understand the talent on both sides of the ball, but are people a year early? How many innings can we really expect?! Am I wrong in thinking he won’t be a big pitching impact until 2021?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I think they’re nuts to be in on him… He will be lucky to throw 100 IP and you’re gonna have no idea when he’s hitting until the day of the game — he’s way more fun for real life

      • Dave D says:
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        Yes, they are nuts. I follow the Angels pretty closely and I expect them to use a six man rotation frequently as they did in 2018 with him. There’s no way he pitches more than the 150 IP range. As a bat, the only time I might start him in NFBC is on the weekend after a Tues or Wednesday start. Otherwise, they bench him the night before a start, and he still is much better vs. RHP and wont start against sone tough LHP.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, not great for fantasy

  10. Dave D says:
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    In round 18. Just drafted Domingo Santana 257 and Kopech 254. I have a full roster minus a second catcher and three more pitchers. It shaping up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s a crazy over correction on Domingo Santana now… So, talked to Greg at NFBC, and we’re going to (hopefully) announce something tomorrow for a league

      • Dave D says:
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        Yeah, Domingo’s prorated 162 games give him real value. Looks like ADPs have already been added from earlier drafts into the draft room :-(
        Canning went way higher than I expected at 241. I like him but that’s before some other guys I prefer.

        Ok, when would the projected start date be?

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