Give me a Kris to build a dream on,

And my imagination will thrive upon that Kris,

Sweetheart, I ask no more than this,

A Kris to build a dream on

Nothing like kickin’ it off old school with a little Satchmo (with, uh, alternate lyrics).  Hello all, and welcome to the return of the Bear or Bull series. In honor of Easter season, the powers that be have decided to resurrect yet another tried-and-true Razzball favorite and have placed it’s fate into the hands of yours truly. Big mistake. I mean, good call! The concept is simple. Each week, I’ll be highlighting a certain player and creating a framework of where he is trending in fantasy terms. Think of it as the Offseason Stock Report series but in-season and with animals. After some background analysis, number crunching, and perhaps a player comp or two, I’ll reveal whether I’m Bearish (pessimistic) or Bullish (optimistic) on the player in question. Cause everyone loves Rocky Mountain oysters, right? Right? Moving on…

From the title of this post to the somewhat altered Louis Armstrong lyrics in the opening, you may have guessed that the player that will be going under the microscope today is none other than Chicago Cubs uber-prospect Kris BryantIn case you haven’t been paying attention to spring training this year, Bryant has been absolutely destroying the ball in Cactus League play. His 9 home runs (in just 44 PA) lead the league while his 1.652 OPS is tops among players who have logged more than a dozen plate appearances. While it’s prudent to take ST statistics with a few grains of salt, those gaudy numbers are hard to ignore.

And based on recent ADP data, Bryant’s spring results certainly aren’t being ignored by fantasy owners. His ESPN ADP has risen by almost a full round over the past week, and he’s been selected in the 4th-6th round range in the majority of recent drafts that I’ve participated in. It seems as though a large number of people are building their championship dreams on rosters featuring Bryant as a core contributor. But what kind of production should be expected from a player who hasn’t even played in a single major league game in his young career?

How about a good old-fashioned player comparison? Bryant is a rare young talent with a unique skill set, but there’s another young player who immediately sprung (pun intended) to mind when attempting to identify an accurate comp for him: George Springer. Similar in age (25 to 23), size (6-3/205 to 6-5/215), pedigree (both high 1st round draft picks), and skill sets (namely power), Springer and Bryant seem to have a lot in common.

Let’s compare Bryant’s 2014 AAA stats with Springer’s 2013 AAA numbers and see if we’re on the right track:

Name Team Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG ISO BABIP wOBA wRC+
Kris Bryant Cubs (AAA) 22 297 14.50% 28.60% 0.295 0.418 0.619 0.324 0.367 0.439 164
George Springer Astros (AAA) 23 266 15.40% 24.40% 0.311 0.425 0.626 0.315 0.362 0.453 175

The offensive numbers produced by these two players are practically identical. Does that mean that they can be expected to produce identical results in the big leagues? Not necessarily. But it makes for a promising comparison.

Now let’s see how Springer fared in 2014 during his first MLB season:

Name Team PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG ISO BABIP wOBA wRC+
George Springer Astros 345 11.30% 33.00% 0.231 0.336 0.468 0.237 0.294 0.352 127

The biggest concern about Bryant is his tendency to strikeout at a high rate. You can see from these tables that Springer’s K% jumped from 24.4% in his last season in AAA to 33% in his rookie season in MLB. Bryant’s was even higher than Springer’s at similar points in their developmental processes.

While there are a few things to be concerned about regarding Bryant in terms of his fantasy prospects for this season (high K-rate, missing at least the first two weeks of the MLB season to delay his arbitration clock), he possesses rare power in an environment which is lacking in that area. In dynasty leagues, lock him up early on and enjoy the ride. In redraft leagues, pay for a .260ish average with 25+ homers in around 135 games, and you could still make a profit.

                                                              Final Verdict:

bull-cool-hd-photo-gallery

 

 

 

 
  1. FrankGrimes says:
    (link)

    Finally some else besides me who likes Kris Bryant

    • Tehol Beddict says:
      (link)

      @FrankGrimes: FRANK!!! why didn’t u tell me u won the computer??? And a razz t shirt? Uz on fire big homaaaay

      • FrankGrimes says:
        (link)

        @Tehol Beddict:
        I figured with your narcissism you wouldn’t care

        funny how i received the laptop today and
        won that shirt months ago and its no where in sight haha

        • Tehol Beddict says:
          (link)

          @FrankGrimes: AGAIN, I PERSONALLY PURCHASED the shirt and Grey probably had to have it made as we don’t stock extra smalls! lol. it will come!!! perfect timing for the summer. wear it every day. #Kudos

        • Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho says:
          (link)

          @FrankGrimes: how did you win the shirt, i knew about the computer giveaway deal.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @FrankGrimes: You can cut the sarcasm with a knife. Grimey!

  2. Tehol Beddict says:
    (link)

    Magoo, are u bear or bull on me taking bryant on the turn of the 5th round?????

    All I eat are rocky Mountain oysters which may explain my insane testosterone levels

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Tehol Beddict: In a redraft? That’s still a little early for my liking, but if you want him, you probably wouldn’t be able to wait much longer than that. The power’s for real, we’ll just have to see if he can hit for average in the big leagues.

      Is that where all of your testosterone comes from? Chewy balls seem like quite the acquired taste…

  3. Jay

    Jay says:
    (link)

    I’ve told this tale many times before, but it’s worth saying it over and over again.

    He went in the 2nd round of one of my RCLs.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Jay: That’s insane. Someone took a trip to Crazy Town. My verdict for that would be a butterfly. Are insects acceptable in this column?

    • I don't want to brag, but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
      (link)

      @Jay: by that logic soler should’ve gone no later than 3rd round.

  4. Grant says:
    (link)

    In our keep 3 forever league, he was a keeper this year. an NA hold over from last year as a keeper this year, that just doesn’t happen too often.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Grant: Yeah, I could definitely see that. His upside is through the roof.

    • njs says:
      (link)

      @Grant:

      i did the same thing (used an NA last year and kept him for this year) in a 10 team, 4 keeper (2 position player), league (cost me an 18th rd pick)…. i even traded springer last year because i knew i’d be keeping bryant over him this year (my other keeper is hanley ramirez in the 7th rd).

  5. Will says:
    (link)

    How early in a 12 team head to head keeper league?

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Will: It depends. Starting from scratch? How many keepers?

      • Will says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: unfortunately starting from scratch. I had him on my keeper team last year and this year everyone voted to start all over. Unless something changes we can keep 5 players.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @Will: Bryant definitely gets a significant boost in a keeper league. Is it keep forever or are there restrictions?

          I’d give him a hard look in the 25-30 overall range. There’s enough established young talent out there to resist moving him any higher than that, but his ceiling is quite high.

          • Will says:
            (link)

            @Big Magoo: I will be able to keep him through his 2018 season. So the drafted year and 3 keeper years.

            • Big Magoo

              Big Magoo says:
              (link)

              @Will: Ok. That doesn’t change a whole lot. Maybe bump him down into the mid-30s or so. Should still provide quite a bit of value over that time period.

  6. He went 4.01 in my 10-team redraft.

    .260/25 isn’t going to justify that draft position in a million years.

    I expect something closer to .240/20 – big league pitchers will soon get a book on the youngster. His age and relative inexperience will be exploited IMO & his K-rate plays right into opposing pitcher’s hands.

    In keeper leagues I’m bear-ish on Bryant. Redraft leagues I think it’s insanity to reach for him in the 4th, especially as the 41st pick off the board. You could stack up on OF bats of 5-cat performers and take a combo of Frazier, Chase Headley, & Lawrie in the 6-7 / 16th-18th and 25-27th and likely have better average and other counting stars to show for it as a result.

    People taking Bryant that high in redraft leagues are paying for his ceiling – which seems to negate any value. It’s 100% risk at that point with very little reward.
    My $.02

    • @Lucky Dog:
      Excuse me – the 31st pick off the board (4.01)

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Lucky Dog: You’re paying for the upside factor with Bryant too. .260/25 is about what I expect from him this season if he’s called up sometime in April. He could easily over or underperform those numbers though. The bullish verdict doesn’t reflect how I feel about his ADP in redraft leagues, but what I think of his talent and overall potential going forward.

      • @Big Magoo:

        Understood, but it’s very, very, VERY hard for me to pay for upside with a 4th round pick.

        The talent available there has a higher floor, and track records to justify.

        I landed Abreu in a 12-teamer last year with an 11th round pick – to me Bryant should be going in the 9-10th for his upside/floor and unknowns (e.g. Adjustments, inexperience, age) – 4th isn’t worth the risk.

        Sure, you could win the lottery with him and get Ryan Braun type rookie #s. But you could also as easily (and seemingly more predictably) get a middling rookie who K’s a shitload and gets abused by more experienced pitchers. Granted, he’ll likely in into a couple dozen HRs regardless, but in the 4th round he’s likely to hurt you more than help.

        I won’t touch him redraft this year. Not for that price.

        Had he made it to my 4.12/5.01 turn I would have had a hard time passing on him – but still probably would have passed.

        I’ve been burned way too many times by can’t miss prospects who did. Some of those put up amazing #s in spring training too.

        At his current price tag, Bryant is either gonna be the hero or the boat in redrafts this year. I’m not willing to pay the lofty price to find out.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @Lucky Dog: 31st overall is too rich for me in a redraft league as well. I think a good spot for him is somewhere around the 65-70 overall area. That’s still well above his current ESPN ADP of 94.7, but probably reflects the general consensus on him over the past week or two.

          • @Big Magoo:

            His yahoo redraft adp is similar, but in dozens of mocks and 2 real drafts I’ve been in, 4th-5th round has been the consensus pick.

            Too many fantasy dorks writing articles about the 2nd coming of Jesus Bryant.

            No offense intended & no dorks were harmed in the writing of this post.

            He’s so overhyped right now that you have to spend an early to mid 4th to get him.

            No thanks.

            • Big Magoo

              Big Magoo says:
              (link)

              @Lucky Dog: Yeah, I’d pass on him at that price in redrafts as well. This dork isn’t offended in the least. Thanks for reading.

        • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
          (link)

          @Lucky Dog: you said you’d value him at the 9th-10th round, but had an issue deciding on whether or not you’d take him at end of 4th start of 5th? i’d love to have your decision making set in an auction league.

  7. Zeus says:
    (link)

    Look Beyant is going to be good eventually but has bad swing and miss rates and is a rookie. By paying $20+ you are basically eliminating profit on him. Now if you got him for -$15 or so I could maybe take a look but paying for stats that he’s never done eliminates his sleeper potential.

    See Brett Lawrie 2012, Wil Myers 2014, Mookie Betts 2015. Hell the mighty God Mike Trout had a rough first go. By the way Mike Trout was the result of me becoming smitten with his mother while swimming and transforming into an actual trout. Then I listened to the lady and let me spawn.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Zeus: I hear ya. I’d be cautious of him in redraft leagues also. You can read what I wrote to Lucky Dog above if you want to see what affected my decision making process.

      • Zeus says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: he’s in a 10 team league. It’s easier to take risks in smaller formats. No way I’m paying those prices in a 14 teamer.

        I had an auction last week in a 15 team mixed with $330 budgets. I nominated Ortiz early because I know people were looking at Bryant for their dh (rookies only quality at util). I got Ortiz for $14 while Bryant went later for $27. Granted not having util available limited me later in the auction but it wasn’t a big deal. I would take Ortiz for half the price of Bryant any day.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @Zeus: I agree. Bryant’s ceiling this year is basically what Ortiz has been producing over the past 10-12 years. Nice grab.

          • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
            (link)

            @Big Magoo: except in average, as ortiz routinely hits higher than .260.

  8. J-FOH says:
    (link)

    Where is Rudy for this one?

    I said that because Grey says he hangs in the back end of the site and waits for his name to pop up

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @J-FOH: He’s always had an alert set up for when his name is mentioned. Get with the program!

      • J-FOH says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: I thought it was like Beetlejuice

        Rudy…Rudy…RUDY!

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @J-FOH: Rudy follows his own schedule. Did you notice how long it took for Keaton to reappear in Hollywood?

          • J-FOH says:
            (link)

            @Big Magoo: are you saying Rudy is the better Batman? if so then I agree.

            • Big Magoo

              Big Magoo says:
              (link)

              @J-FOH: I bet Rudy could design a killer Batmobile

              • J-FOH says:
                (link)

                @Big Magoo: I think he would be better at making cool bat tools

                • mauledbypandas says:
                  (link)

                  @J-FOH: You guys talking about our favorite Huxtable, Rudy?

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
                    (link)

                    @mauledbypandas: As long as it’s about her interactions with her TV dad on-camera only…

  9. Zeus says:
    (link)

    Off topic. Billy Burns an early season viable sagnof with Crisp out? If so in what size mixed leagues.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Zeus: Burns certainly has speed to, uh, burn but I think he’ll be in some kind of a rotation with Gentry and Fuld, while Zobrist will play more OF for the time being. I like him in daily formats since you can just swap him out if he’s on the bench, but he’s tough to use if lineups lock weekly.

      • GhostTownSteve says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo:

        FYI they’re going to play a lot of Mark Canha out there.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @GhostTownSteve: Forgot about him. Add another player into the outfield mix.

  10. Wake Up says:
    (link)

    Good call Rudy!

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Wake Up: Thanks, Wake…

  11. Wake Up says:
    (link)

    Oops, I meant Magoo. Not Rudy…

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Wake Up: Yup, Wake…

  12. Wake Up says:
    (link)

    To be clear, I did NOT mean to type Rudy. I meant to say good call Magoo!
    Not Rudy…Rudy,Rudy,Rudy…
    .250/27

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Wake Up: Understood, Wake… Wake, Wake, Wake… You got Bryant at a good spot in the FCL…

  13. GhostTownSteve says:
    (link)

    I can’t get behind Bryant. He’s got two risk factors in my actuarial table. Track record and playing time. I am not on board with the general foregone conclusion that he’ll be right back up in April. I’m guessing June and I’m guessing he’ll have periods where he struggles after he comes up.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @GhostTownSteve: It’s funny. I started writing this thinking that I’d be bearish on Bryant, but I slowly changed my mind the more I dug in. Seems like quite a few people are bearish on him though, surprisingly. He’s the kind of buzzy player who tends to divide a room.

      Looks to me like he’ll be up in late April/early May, but you could be right. He’s definitely one of the biggest boom/bust players this year.

      • GhostTownSteve says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo:

        Like all things, we’re dealing in a probability curve here and trying to figure out if we’re taking the high or the low end of his projection range. I’ll also add the high K rate as a factor and say that’s 3 marks against. I’m not down on the kid and I do think he can be useful. I think you’d have to qualify my comments to mean bearish relative to how I’m perceiving the market at the moment.

        • J-FOH says:
          (link)

          @GhostTownSteve: do you think because of all the hoopla pitchers will try to challenge him more than normal?

          • @J-FOH:

            I think they’re going to go right after him at 1st. But once there’s some data on him he could get exposed. It would hardly be the 1st time. Look at Chris Davis – as long as the shift continues to work and Davis refuses to use the whole field, he’s going to continue to float around the Mendoza line.

            If Bryant has a similar weakness, you can bet word will spread. That’s the thing about the hype guys – everyone in baseball knows who they are, and they all pay attention to their strengths and weaknesses.

            Take Frazier for example – everyone is saying he’ll regress in SBs this year. I don’t see it being as extreme as a couple of the experts, but I would not be shocked to see his SBs drop to the 10-12 range now that teams know he’s a threat rather than ignoring him altogether.

            Bryant is young, and will have weaknesses. Baseball is a continuous game of adjustments on both sides of the ball. Defenses & pitchers adjust to the hitter, then the hitter must make adjustments to the adjustments.

            Some do that better than others. Jury’s out on Bryant until we’ve seen some significant AB’s.

            He could be the next Babe Ruth. I don’t discount the possibility. But being a realist, I have to believe it’s unlikely.

            • J-FOH says:
              (link)

              @Lucky Dog: I think the Cincy running situation will be one to watch. With all the injuries last year they ran a lot, see Jay Bruce, so with a healthy team are they more conservative in the run game or do they continue running. Being that last year was Price’s first season I think that is in their plans.

              Im not feeling the Bryant to Davis comp.

              • @J-FOH:

                It wasn’t a comparison of Bryant to Davis. It was an example of pitchers/defenses making an adjustment and a player failing to adjust to it, resulting in a ~.200 ave and sub-par season.

                The point being, IF Bryant is exposed somehow, and opposing teams/pitchers similarly make adjustments to exploit the flaw(s), Bryant will similarly suffer for it.

                That is the only comparison I’m making – it’s a lot of “if’s” and bullshit speculation, but it would not be the 1st time a young player experienced this. The major question will be “how will Bryant change his game once opponents start to figure him out” – the figuring out is inevitable. It’s how Bryant adapts that will define him as a hitter. The same can be said for any hitter, but obviously the spotlight will be brighter on Bryant due to the hype.

                As for Cincy, I am inclined to agree – In my projections I dropped Frazier to ~12 SBs because the manager likes to run. I don’t necessarily agree that it was solely due to injuries – he was expected to run more out of the gate as that’s the style of ball he said he prefers. Some folks think Frazier will be lucky to swipe 5, but that seems pretty low for a guy who’s capable of 20.

                That said, Votto looks great this spring, and with healthy Bruce & Votto behind Frazier in the lineup (if that’s how it shakes out) then I am inclined to agree. But getting a RISP is still a vital part of the game, and Frazier proved more than capable of doing it last year.

                I had a hard time with ranking Frazier this year because of it. I figured I’d have to take him with a 4th or 5th round pick to get him. When he fell to me at the 6-7 turn drafting from the 1 spot, I felt like the value was there. I actually double dipped on Reds there taking Votto/Frazier, then snagged Bruce in the 12th which I couldn’t pass up. Bruce is on my bench, but that might change if he bounces back as I expect him to.

                Uh, go Reds? lol

                • J-FOH says:
                  (link)

                  @Lucky Dog: Reds will be fun to watch for sure.

                  On Davis I think the shift played into it but that BABIP was insanely low last year. Some have called that his floor but I think its much higher than that.

                  Will Bryant be Braun or will he be Baez….I like the letter B. The one thing he has going is he was an accomplished college hitter firs round pick.

      • @Big Magoo:

        I suspect Razzball readers are sharper than the average bear (see what I did there?) – and this might be a wild assumption but I think most of us have played the game for long enough to see more busts than Brauns.

        I know I sure have. After his brief (and awesome) stint before injury, I was the schmuck who spent a 5th round pick on Brett Lawrie the following year expecting HUGE returns on the investment, only to get dogshit #s and kick myself for passing up literally every player taken in the next 11 rounds over him. I’m big enough to admit it.

        That experience and others like it have made me slightly more risk averse when it comes to drafting highly touted prospects based on lofty spring numbers.

        it would be interesting to see a list of the names of pitchers that Bryant homered off of. Would also love to see the average distance, and what the weather was like in AZ on those days. And to be really telling, I’d like to see what pitchers he’s faced all spring, and somehow know which of those pitchers were working out kinks in their delivery, which were warming up and which were truly trying to get him out with their “best stuff”.

        Spring Training is a lot of things – an accurate predictor of success is almost never one of them.

        Still – Bryant has the track record in the minors to suggest some success, but that K rate scares me. And we have no idea how he’ll make the adjustment once pitchers have a book on him in the bigs.

        To me that’s an awful lot of unknowns. They were there last year with Abreu – but he was an 11th round gamble. Hardly season-ruining if he wasn’t the man.

        Bryant absolutely must be the man to justify his current ADP. And while I never actively root against players, I have to admit that I’d like to see the dude who made him the 31st overall pick suffer a little for it with a .235 ave and 15 HRs.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @Lucky Dog: First of all, thanks for the well thought out response. I agree with you about Razzball readers. Definitely a sharp bunch.

          Most of the people who have played against me before will probably tell you that I focus on two things when constructing a team – balance and value. The buzzy young players usually don’t provide the latter, which is why I’m content to pass on them most of the time. There’s always somebody who’s willing to reach for upside. It’s all about risk/reward with a player like Bryant, especially in a redraft league. What’s his ceiling, and when should you gamble? Always a conundrum on draft day with young, unproven players at the MLB level.

          The spring training stats were quoted as an example of what Bryant might be capable of against more advanced competition. The pitching that he’s faced in ST has been rated as slightly above triple A level, and he’s demolished everything that’s been thrown at him. That’s not necessarily indicative of the kind of production that can be expected of him in the majors, but it’s certainly a good sign.

          Bryant is not Abreu, in all likelihood. But very few players are. I was quite high on Abreu last season, and Bryant has a few more question marks surrounding him. That doesn’t mean that he can’t be productive from day one though. Just looks like more of a Springer than a Miggy at the plate.

          • @Big Magoo:

            I agree totally – I think the springer comparison is good, though I expect lower average (less walks, more K’s)

            as I have shares in Soler I’m certainly hoping Bryant is productive as that’ll likely help Soler too.

            • Big Magoo

              Big Magoo says:
              (link)

              @Lucky Dog: Definitely. I’m a big fan of Soler as well. If Bryant hits the ground running, that’ll only help everyone in that Cubs lineup.

  14. Hal Incandenza says:
    (link)

    On March 18, I took Bryant at pick 80 in a 12 team H2H league with keepers. I’m sure some of the guys in that league thought that was early, but it sounds that he might have gone earlier if the draft were now.

    For me, the real factor was 3B talent after the top guys were gone (some of which I wasn’t high enough on to want anyway). I went into that draft expecting to get Arenado at 56 but he went at 52. Bryant was my adjustment for that. In the meantime, I went heavy on some SPs in rounds 4-6, grabbing Price, Shark, and Arrieta (kept Goldy, Rizzo, and A. Jones). I didn’t expect any of this but felt I was responding to how the draft went.

    This draft was via email, where you have some time to adjust to who has been taken before being on a longer clock. The live ESPN draft clock is shorter than I’d like, but I understand it as drafts can still run 2.5-3 hours. This was 22 rounds completed in 8 days (1 1/3 rounds of players were kept), which seemed pretty reasonable for the draft format.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Hal Incandenza: Nice value on Bryant there, especially in a keeper. He would’ve definitely gone earlier in that format if your draft took place at a later date. Well done.

      • Hal Incandenza says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: Thanks, Magoo. I hope it turns out that way!

        One other factor that I forgot to mention in my decision to take Bryant where I did was having the time to track the draft and team rosters, as well as knowing the owners. I saw three other owners that I thought had the cajones to nab him between my #80 and #89 slots. I still had a sour taste over missing out on Arenado already so I wasn’t going to let that happen with Bryant. Of course, there is a chance that I will regret it, but I want to have guys that I want, you know?

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @Hal Incandenza: If there are players that you’re especially high on, I’ve always believed that it ok to reach a bit for those guys as long as you’re not taking all of the value away from that pick. Looks like you did a good job of that in this case. There will always be a trade market for the young, buzzy elite prospect types in a keeper format if you choose to go that route too.

        • A Wesley Snipes Life says:
          (link)

          @Hal Incandenza: not sure if espn ADP’s are much different than yahoo’s, but you could’ve waited till near 100 (or 90’s if early) for arrieta. I have him in many spots this year and i think i’m the only person who’s taken him earlier than pick 90 in any of them. Unless this league you mention is one heavy with Razzballers, in which case you might have had to pay 20 or more picks.

  15. SheriffMcRawDawg says:
    (link)

    Magoo! don’t worry I’m almost out of teams to flood the comments with. just finished this 10-team h2h standard league and arguably botched it up royally on the pitching end. basically had $20 left for about 10 players and endured a tortuous latter hour or so getting outbid, etc. Except for Trumbo and Myers who of course no one wanted and I got stuck with for $1 each.

    Question is – what are your thoughts, and can I get by with that pitching staff? some names on the wire: McCarthy, Liriano, Quintana, etc. (and other closer/set up options as well). probably moving at least Davis for hopefully a Ross type pitcher…

    C –Martin
    1B – Goldy
    2B – Mookie
    3B – Arenado
    SS – Hanley
    OF – Puig (K – $11)
    OF – Springer (K – $2)
    OF – Giancarlo
    Util – Chris Davis

    BN – Danny Santana
    BN – Trumbo
    BN – Myers

    SP – Zimmerman
    SP – Arrieta
    RP – Rondon
    RP – Clippard
    P – Fiers
    P – Shoemaker

    BN – Pineda
    BN – Walker

    thanks as always!

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @SheriffMcRawDawg: It’s all good, Sheriff! I’m always here.

      The pitching looks solid, but you might be able to use another workhorse. Zimm is the only SP who can be expected to log 200 IP. I like all three of those guys that you mentioned (McCarthy, Liriano, Quintana) and you should be able to stream them in the Myers/Fiers/Walker spots as needed (though I’d give Walker some leash).

      Your offense looks really strong. Great power/speed combo, and the infield should offset the low averages of Springer/Davis/Trumbo. Looks good!

      • SheriffMcRawDawg says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: thanks Magoo. yeah – in a league this shallow (10 teams) and only 4 SP/P positions, I decided to roll heavy on my offense and grab a couple solid starters. hopefully it’ll work out. I’m not a huge streamer, b/c I like owning a pitcher when they come around, but I might have to stream several spots like you say – there are 6 adds per week so streaming won’t be an issue.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @SheriffMcRawDawg: Your pitching should be fine. Zimm, Arrieta, and Pineda can be started each time out, and you can play matchups with Fiers/Shoemaker/Walker/streamers in the other slots. Good luck!

  16. Robert says:
    (link)

    I took Bryant in the 8th round of 10 team h2h league. I have already heard the anger of other owners who thought they could get him later in draft. What kind of return should I ask for if I trade Bryant? For me Bryant would be a util spot.

    • @Robert:

      See, that’s the tricky part: ypu picked him on the 8th round, which is good value.

      But It’s really only great value for your team.

      The other 9 teams in your league obviously did not think he was worth taking for 7.x rounds, which makes it incredibly difficult to determine his trade value – your prospective trade partners already told you what they think of his value.

      If your intention is to deal him, in my opinion you’re stuck until he’s called up & performs.

      If he comes out of the gate mashing, hitting 3 HR his 1st week, his trade value will be ridiculously high. But at the same time you might be hesitant to deal him if he’s producing like that unless you have glaring weakness somewhere else on your team that you can address.

      So yeah – tricky scenario.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Robert: Is this a redraft league? If so, I would look for a pitcher in the Zimmermann/Harvey range or a hitter in the Cespedes/C. Santana/Kipnis range at the very least. If you can’t get that type of return, I’d probably just hold.

      • Robert says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: OK got it. It is a redraft league. The others do value him. They just thought they could wait and get a steal in middle rounds.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @Robert: Definitely. I’m just saying not to sell him at a discount. There’s nothing wrong with holding onto him and waiting for his promotion.

        • @Robert:

          Yeah, but if I were your trade partner and I took Zimmerman in the 6th and you offered me your 8th round Bryant for him preseason I’d reject without a second thought.

          I’m not totally buying that they thought they’d get a steal later – what they thought was that the players they were picking were more valuable. Which makes going after anyone taken in the 7 rounds before him difficult.

          even if they did think they could get him later, I still say your best bet is to wait & see how he performs out of the gate. If he has a flu lushly red hot 1st week everyone will think “holy crap, the hype was real!!!” – his value will never be higher.

  17. Barry says:
    (link)

    I am in a Salary Cap League with 16 teams and last year, I was able to snag Kris Bryant immediately following the pick of Jose Abreu.

    While I watched the South Sider do what he did, all I could focus on was Bryant and his season last year.

    Patience is a Virtue!

    This is my salary cap squad for this year:

    C – Ramos
    1B – Fielder
    2B – Altuve
    SS – Segura
    3B – Valbuena (2b eligible)
    IF- AGon
    LF – Choo
    CF – B. Hamilton
    RF – Braun
    OF – Soler
    UTIL – A. Garcia
    Bench – Wil Myers, Kris Bryant, Francisco Lindor, CJ Cron, Swihart

    SP – Scherzer, Wainwright, Cole, Teheran, Sonny Gray, Shane Greene

    RP – Danny Farquhar and two other relievers when Fernandez and Richards are placed on the DL

    DL – Profar, Jose Fernandez, Garrett Richards

    NA (2 Prospect Slots) – Mark Appel, Julio Urias, Jameson Taillon

    $135 million salary cap, 22 keepers, 3 DL slots, 2 NA slots. It is an OBP League.

    This team is primed to win a title.

    • Barry says:
      (link)

      @Barry:

      The statistical cats are: R, HR, RBI, TB, SB, BA, OBP, IP, W, L, SV, HLD, ERA, WHIP, K/9

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Barry: Wow, that’s a very strong roster for a 16 team league. Pitching looks like a 10 teamer. Just need to grab some MRs for holds/saves, but that should be easy enough. I’m higher on Braun and AGon than most it seems, and Soler looks like a prime breakout candidate. Nice team.

      • Barry says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: Thanks Magoo – We have been working hard on rebuilding this roster for the last couple of years and I have not been more excited about this franchise since it finished 3rd in 2011.

        Suffice it to say, I am pretty stoked to see what this roster can do.

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
          (link)

          @Barry: I’d be stoked with that team too. Good luck!

  18. Ra'zbahl Al Ghul says:
    (link)

    I’m all bear here… yogi, smokey, teddy, paddington, berenstain, and grylls.
    K’s, contact, BABIP, rushed through milb.
    Having a monster spring I think was the worst thing that could have happened for him.
    His confidence is sky high, read cocky, but his approach needs some work.
    I cringe at the pending humblage headed his way this year.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Ra’zbahl Al Ghul: No Bryant for you! He’s a boom or bust player this year for sure. I see a Springer type of rookie season. Troy Glaus is a good comp for him too. I think he hits the ground running until the scouting report develops and he goes through an adjustment period. Definitely an average risk but he makes a lot of hard contact. Big time power too obviously.

      • Ra'zbahl Al Ghul says:
        (link)

        @Big Magoo: Yeah, well said. Guna be fun to watch Bryant/the Cubs no matter what happens

  19. Will says:
    (link)

    what about instead of paying a high price in the draft for Bryant I wait and pick up Joey Gallo at the end of the draft or off of waivers? Gallo should get brought up this year, will play some 3B, OF, DH, and 1B until he settles in somewhere, and has some of the same power that Bryant displays. Thoughts? Not a close enough comparison? Just trying to look at options as I prepare for my upcoming draft. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Will: This is for the 12 team keeper that you mentioned above? With only 5 keeper slots, I wouldn’t worry too much about Gallo. Don’t really think that he makes an impact this season, and you probably wouldn’t be keeping him in a keep-5 format (unless there’s an N/A keeper thrown in there).

  20. Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho says:
    (link)

    it’s funny how close those two were/might be, esp since i was ALL OVER grabbing springer last year, and don’t have bryant anywhere this one, mostly since you didn’t have to spend a pick on him in the 60-110 range at all in redrafts, like with bryant now.

    • Big Magoo

      Big Magoo says:
      (link)

      @Flowers misses his old glasses… he’s ok tho: Bryant is certainly a buzzy player right now. Tough to get a discount on him anywhere. In redrafts, he looks like a pass unless he falls a bit. I’m still bullish on him in dynasty/keeper formats though.

Comments are closed.