It’s super fun to put all our prospect eggs in C*nt Hurdle’s basket, isn’t it?  A basket of desirables, if you will.  “I’m sorry I said that deplorables comment in my one unguarded moment all campaign.  It won’t happen again,” and with that — beep-beep-booooop — Hillary-bot powered down.  Up front, I’m going to get out of the way the biggest drawback for Austin Meadows.  I don’t think he has an everyday job unless Andrew McCutchen gets hurt or traded.  “Why you gots to prospblock me, yo?”  That’s Austin Meadows.  Or maybe Meadows sneaks in if the same injury fate befalls Gregory Polanco or Starling Marte, but I don’t be-fault you for thinking McCutchen gets moved or nothing happens with Meadows in 2017.  Shoot (not you, Raylan Givens!), Meadows may not see a full-time job until 2019 when he’ll still only be 24.  That obviously would be a waste of his talent, but I’m talking real world circumstances and you have Hurdle and the hurdle of McCutchen’s contract going through to 2018.  Sure, maybe McCutchen gets moved to a corner outfield slot, but then what?  Marte moves to center and Meadows is still without a job.  Does this all sound like it’s leading up to a fun 2017 projection for Meadows?  Or put more segue-y… Anyway, what can we expect from Austin Meadows for 2017 fantasy baseball?

Absolutely nothing from him in 2017 seems too conservative since he is a great talent.  Actually, his talent is the only reason we’re talking about him.  If he was even a B-level prospect, there would be no reason to talk about him, because he is so prospblocked in the Pirates’ outfield.  In the minor leagues (across Double and Triple-A), he had 12 homers and 17 steals in only 293 ABs.  “Excuse me, Mr. Meadows, can you put down the video game controller for a moment and explain your video game numbers?”  At FanGraphs, they said, “Despite a prodigious posterior and a body that mostly suggested (Meadows) would hit for power,” blah blah blah it hadn’t shown up yet.  I guess he needed to put his back into to it, as the rappers say.  Honestly, I found that quote so puzzling I Googled Meadows + butt, and it returned results for Audrey Meadows’ badonkadonk.  Yo, Audrey Meadows was hot!  Wow!  Can I get a humm-a-na-humm-a-na?  But Austin Meadows?  He got a baby badonkadonk that couldn’t booty bump with Jonathan Broxton if they were on a dance floor simultaneously.  Weird for me to say this since I am white, but that above FanGraphs quote is so white, it should’ve been written in mayonnaise while watching Seinfeld.  Back to Austin Meadows, his booty aside, the power did come in 2016 as the previous stats show.  Oh, that’s right, the power came for him as a 21-year-old!  Meadows has NL Rookie of the Year in 2017 written all over him if the Pirates move McCutchen in a trade, and not just for real world value, but Meadows will be a fantasy beast.  Though, as I said in the 1st paragraph, it may not come until 2018 or even 2019.  If it’s 2019, it’s a damn waste, if it’s 2018, it’s understandable, if it’s 2017, then giddy up in all leagues!  For 2017, I’ll give him the projections of 19/3/15/.289/6 in 105 ABs, though you multiple those by five if he has an everyday job in April and things get pretty pretty, pretty fast.  Nah’mean?

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Wake Up
5 years ago

NL is definitely a better game…and you can write that in black truffle aioli…not that there’s anything wrong with that!

Wake Up
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Shizz, I just played in Kentucky for a whole herd of pigs! Shot aioli on more than a few!

Wake Up
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Trust me on the garlic level!

Big Odio
Big Odio
5 years ago

Call me a hater or a pessimist or a guy that don’t believe the hype….Chuck D! Seriously though the headlines feel like the Cubs have already mounted the most amazing comeback in sports history. Lets see here, they have beaten Trevor Bauer twice. That’s it. You had your best games against drone boy? that’s amazing *sarcasm*. I will also take this time to point out how many times it gets referenced the amazing Cleveland staff of 2016 and yet almost always fail to mention Carassco and Salazar. You cant talk about the staff numbers in the season then in the world series when 2 of the 5, who were way better than Bauer and Tomlin, aren’t there, you reference the team numbers. FFS!

Also Kerry Wood is a fucking moron. He was on Dan Patrick the other day and between all the offensive players to choose from to start a franchise, he couldn’t decide between Bryant or Schwarber. This idiot couldnt figure out if the NL MVP, most likely, or a .250ish hitter who is a defensive liability would be the best player to start a frachise with. Forget Rizzo, he’s old I guess. But really Wood, what else did Dusty do to you. Did he remove logic and reason from your brain?

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: Schwarber is grossly overrated. It’s like he’s Moobs Jesus.

M
M
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Yes the Indians are a great team but I agree I can’t believe they’re where they are now with losing both Carrasco & Salazar from the rotation. Yesterday’s broadcast showed the Indians playoff ERA split between Starters/RP’s and they were almost identical

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: maybe on wood. He also chose Hendrick over Arrieta which I agree on. But he was annidiot. YOU can usually tell.

And no shit on that staff. Instead every article and talk radio show going on and on about the genius of epstein they shoukd be talking about how amazing the Indians have done without arguably the best staff in baseball

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

I’m not sure the Pirates would make such a savvy move that involved trading the face of the franchise while they can still see the cliff he’s about to plummet off.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Hell, I could see them resigning him.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I can’t see them moving cutch. What do they need? They have a solid young staff and with one of the best pitching coaches in baseball they can play the small market payroll and be fine. TheI only major need would be first base. The problem is they will never pony up to sign one and that means they need to groom one. Look at Cleveland right now, outside of kluber they are trotting the B team out on the mound and still doing fine.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: I don’t think they move him either, but it will be so they don’t upset all of the new, uninformed fans they’ve collected the past few years who don’t realize he’s now their 3rd best outfielder.

Josh Bell can be their 1B and he would be better than anyone they’ve had playing there recently.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I have to wonder about Bell. THEY seemed hesitant with him. I also think meadows gets moved to add rhat needed piece…whatever that may be

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: Think it was the same problem as Meadows, he was supposed to be an OF. Believe he just started playing 1B within the last year or two.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: to be honest, I think so little of meadows I wonder why grey even wrote about him

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Matty Truss renamed me after I won Perts. Like Big Papi, I’m Big Hate…in Spanglish

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: pinche gringo albright

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Gringo Albright

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: Outside of injuries there’s not much to dislike about Meadows. He’s just hurt a lot, definitely a perfect fantasy toolset. Contact, speed, and pop.

Wake Up
Reply to  Ralph Lifshitz
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: Agreed. Nothing to dislike. He gonna be good.

Tweak
Tweak
5 years ago

I’m not sure that I’m quite as bullish as Grey here, but he’s looking pretty solid. If the Pirates are anywhere near a playoff spot by the trade deadline next season, they’d be nuts not to move Cutch for pitching (as sad as it would be to see him leave Pittsburgh). I think Meadows gets play down the stretch and maybe only enough ABs to hold him back to win ROTY in 2018.

Overall, I’m glad to see some support for Meadows. It gives me all those happy feels looking at my lineup in my dynasty league with MP running the show. He won this past year, but my future OF is shaping up to be Mazara, Pederson, and some combination of Meadows, Lewis Brinson, Ian Happ, Clint Frazier, Alex Verdugo and Tyler O’Neill with Derek Fisher, Harrison Bader, Adam Eaton and Max Kepler as hangers-on.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Tweak
5 years ago

@Tweak:
My man Homestead here is loaded with prospects. He is and will be the number 1 challenger to my title..

He took a so-so team made some solid trades and solid free agent pickups all in this his first year..Well done, man!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Smells like a tasty $0 keeper reserve round pick to me!!

Just saw rumors that Miami will look to trade Dee and/or OZUNA for pitching. Do you see OZUNA going anywhere that would significantly change his outlook? (COL seems highly doubtful)

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I like it! Definitely improves his keeper chances for me if he does get moved. Maybe even CLE (they’ve been looking for OF and could move a Bauer type). Would love a hitter friendly park on a team that likes stealing. That’s all it’ll take to make him a 30/30 player right?

ChiCitySox23
ChiCitySox23
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
This has Rick Hahn and the White Sox written all over it. Welcome to Miami Jose Quintana.

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
5 years ago

Grey!!!!

Made it to civilization only to find out the Internet at the hotel is no good, [yadda] cubed. Great write-up and hope you had a great weekend.

a. Met a guy named Joe at the pool at the Hilton Hotel in N’Djamena. It costs 10$ to access the pool all day, fairly cheap when considering that the taxi ride to the Hilton from our hotel was the same price!!! Joe is in a unit of 4 other guys who are doing work for the DoD – all of them named Joe!! It’s weird, right? Anyway they’re doing serious top secret stuff that for sure no one knows about. When they finish the project they go home, no other news forthcoming. He plays fantasy football and I referred him to razzball dot com, so that makes 3 hits from Africa for razzball! Only 9999997 more to go diamond!

b. Still like the Tribe to win, it’s gonna be a helluva a finish.

Cheers,
Ante

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Grey!

LOL, only there are 5 guys, Joe and the four others in his unit all named Joe. For sure their names aren’t Joe. He was very very secretive about everything about the project. He was however super forthcoming about his fantasy football draft strategy / team.

Cheers,
Ante

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Grey!

It’s like he was brainwashed NOT to talk about it. Like a bizarre episode of Scooby Doo!

Cheers,
Ante

branta
branta
Reply to  Ante GALIC
5 years ago

@Ante GALIC: Four Guys Named Joe, coming this fall to ABC

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

Schwarber time in Cleveland on Tuesday night..

Cubs in seven!

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

May the Schwarb’s be with you!

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Ok, here’s hoping you are not a M.E.G.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
No way, Arrieta pitches better then he did in game 2 and Cubs bats continue to come to life

CUBS in 7!

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
I would really like to see Madden flip flop Bryant and Zobrist in the lineup..Bryant needs to come up with men on base, and Zobrist is not a clean-up hitter..

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

That plan sounds solid; personally, I would like the coaches to tell Javier to swing at the first pitch!

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

You nailed it Grey, I would love to see the guys bunt more, especially with the way the field has been lined up for Rizzo (mega shift). Seriously, if you were given that defensive positioning 100% of the time and all you did was bunt? What would your B.A. be, .800 (obviously wouldn’t happen in real life). This is the WS cubbies, run all out to first base every time and take what the D gives you… I hate to say it, but I think the cubs have gotten out-managed so far. Its clear that the Indians have had a solid game plan (pitching strategy and defensive alignment)

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Count de Monetball
5 years ago

@Count de Monetball:
They need to outlaw the shifts..

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

I hear ya MP, but the cool things about the shift, is it gives the batters a chance to take advantage of the shift. These could be negated/minimized if batters would just take advantage of what they are given. You don’t like having the shift use against you, beat it/take advantage… If HR to the Izzo would have bunted 4+ times by now, the D probably wouldn’t be utilizing in most situations…

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Count de Monetball
5 years ago

@Count de Monetball: very out managed

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
They are swinging at everything, everybody trying to be a hero by going for the solo homer.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
Exactly. Maddon is suppose to be some sort of genius but that is just wack..

Fowler
Zobrist
Rizzo
Bryant

That should be there top 4.

CMUTimmah
CMUTimmah
5 years ago

One of my friends did something deplorable 3 years ago at our draft… he drafted Austin Meadows as a high school senior in a keeper league, then tweeted him saying welcome to his organization in reply to a tweet Austin had posted about PROM.

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
5 years ago

Hurry up and adopt the DH National League

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Ralph Lifshitz
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: did I read he has an arm like a little leaguer?

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Agree with M.E.G.

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I get that it’s the traditional game and helps boost pitching stats from a fantasy perspective. But wouldn’t it be better if we got bad fielders out of the field, and replaced awful hitting pitchers with professional hitters?

I don’t know I want all of my Muppet Babies to have a job.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
I so agree with you! Leave it alone, I like the DH in the AL and not in the NL!

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Did you just go real baseball on me?

The NL is a better offensive league? Even with arguably the two best offensive parks in baseball AL teams always lead the MLB in runs. Wouldn’t you like another everyday hitter to start in Coors?

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: The NL and AL leaders?

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: oh you two, this is simple, There are 9 players on the field and in the NL that is honored. In the AL, you have 10. Its fucking stupid the AL did that. Bitchball to me

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: You meant averages. I didn’t know where your numbers came from.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Im agreeing with you….for once

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: *takes off belt* get your ass over here….right now!

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I grew up watching AL baseball, and one of the best hitters for my favorite club was a DH. So my perception is shaped by that.

I’m not really a traditionalist about anything.

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Ortiz, I mean it sort has to be. Dewey Evans is always a RF to me.

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: It probabalt wouldn’t have been a Red Sox DH. Probably like Edger. I always liked Travis Hafner too. No idea why.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

wouldn’t that be the mobility challenged?

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: If a guy could pinch hit in a motorized cart, the AL would do it

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Hell yeah! I’ll take Ortiz or whatever hit only guy over a Jason Heyward/ JD Drew guy. Overrated athletes!!!

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Ralph Lifshitz
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: I wouldn’t take many in history over Trout. That’s even worse than my Heyward choice. Heyward is the ultimate athlete/tools/NL type guy.

BTW I’m so commited to this argument I’m responding from Frontierland in Disneyworld while I’m carrying my daughter on my shoulders. Lol I’m nuts!!

COURT-VISION
COURT-VISION
Reply to  Ralph Lifshitz
5 years ago

AL baseball is a joke. DH to the NL would kill the sport. When asked this year what managing in an AL ballpark was like, Bruce Bochy said it “is like taking a day off”.

bigbear
bigbear
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: This! Chapman going in with 1 out in the 7th, then Maddon was forced to make a decision again in the bottom of the 8th whether to pinch hit or not. Quality baseball.

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  bigbear
5 years ago

@bigbear: How painful was that at bat to watch? It was disgusting.

SwaggerJackers
SwaggerJackers
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I’d be fine with either way as long as it gets standardized.

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Exactly. In other sports it seems like a ridiculous idea but in baseball it’s accepted.

From a pure athletes perspective, I’d rather see the NL rules used so everyone has to play the field and pitchers get to impact both sides of the game.

Sorry Twins, figure out somewhere to play Sano.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

Its lonely in these comments…Good Morning boo.