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Sometimes you just can’t trade a guy in your fantasy baseball league.  For whatever reason, the rest of the teams don’t believe in your guy.  Whether it’s someone who has been doing well who people aren’t sure if they’re for real (Ben Zobrist) or someone who has been struggling (Liriano), no one in your league will trade for them.  You’ve tried to sell lower than even their value warrants, but no bites. So you go even lower and, before you know it, you’re trading Liriano for a VHS copy of The Secret Life of Desmond Pfeiffer.  So what do you do when no one wants to give you any value for one of your guys?

Let’s look at the guys that are supposedly playing above their heads (the Zobrists).  The best thing you can do with these guys is for you to trust in their value.  Say you have Jeter and Zobrist, and you’re stuck benching Zobrist every day because you just don’t have room.  But you really need a starter.  You know Zobrist is worth a starter, but no one’s biting.  So trade Jeter for a starter, who will give you value, and slot Zobrist in as your shortstop.  Trust in The Zo.

Next, the guys who don’t have any value because they’re sucking wind like a burro in Machu Picchu, the Liriano case example.  There’s two things you can do here.  Drop them so they stop sucking the life out of your team.  For instance, some might remember when I said I dropped Carmona after his first start of the year.  I knew no one would trade me anything for Carmona.  I also knew that people wouldn’t let him sit on waivers.  Sure enough, he was picked up and dropped by countless teams in my league, i.e., he did serious damage to my opponents ERA and WHIP, not mine.  ‘Natch!  The other thing you can do with an underperforming player, trade them for a player that someone else can’t trade.  Someone who owns Ben Zobrist and is benching them?  They might consider Liriano.  Someone can’t stand the sight of Stephen Drew on their team?  They might take Liriano.  Instead of chewing gum, chew bacon!

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  1. adamh says:
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    HAHA. I am currently discussing trading Liriano for Drew with somebody.

  2. mgeoffriau

    mgeoffriau says:
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    Good ideas. I started shopping Garrett Atkins back in May and couldn’t get anything more than a “Ha, no thanks” reply from anyone. I waited a bit, then offered him to the owner who I noticed had been swapping CI schmohawks all year long after losing Delgado and A-Ram….he gave me Furcal in return (he had him on the bench and was playing Izturis). I figured that was a nice deal since I was swapping in SS schmohawks while waiting on Reyes.

  3. Pops says:
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    I’ve been trying to move Chris Davis for some time now. Has anyone had any success in doing so?

  4. Scott says:
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    @Pops: I was able to move him to the waiver wire and he only struck out twice while moving through cyberspace.

  5. mgeoffriau

    mgeoffriau says:
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    @Pops: Try shopping him as C. Davis — maybe someone will get confused and think that Chili Davis is still playing.

  6. JRT says:
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    Grey – maybe my line of all time.

    One last try, if I give Broxton, Bailey, DeRosa and JD Drew and get Ichiro, Shin-Soo, J. Lopez and Scott Baker am I giving up too much?

  7. JRT says:
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    *favorite

  8. anoraxx says:
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    I´ve been trying to shop Drew, Bruce and Pierre for like a month for literally anyone. Guess what. I didn´t even caught up the girl next door for any of them.

  9. Simply Fred

    Simply Fred says:
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    @Scott: Thanks for the data on Kemp, by lineup position. I won’t go into quite the nightly tizzy seeing him homer from #9 (knowing he otherwise would have k’d in the 3 hole).

  10. Simply Fred

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    @Steve (my bad).

  11. jamesllegade says:
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    So I just traded Jeter for Kazmir and Liriano… (I had Miggy at SS and no one was believing so I Believed!)

    Do I start Kazmir this weekend??? Lirano is on my bench until he starts striking people out (I have the lead in avg/SB/Runs and ma pulling a 2 in K’s hence the trade).

    Kaz has looked filthy in rehab starts… do I believe right out of the gate? I WANT TO BELIEVE.

  12. SaltyBiscuits says:
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    I traded FOR Chris Davis in a long term dynasty keeper league. He cost me Antonio Bastardo.

    A little bench project, if you will.

  13. john says:
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    Been trying to trade Lilly, Lowell, Ludwick for a month now

  14. john says:
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    And I just noticed all their names start with L, a coincidence?..I think not.

  15. Rick Dempsey says:
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    What are your thoughts on Andrew Miller, he seems like he’s starting to make corrections on his game that did him in last season. Where do you see the trend going?

  16. Mr. Rickey says:
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    Hart + Capps for Markakis – fair?

  17. Scott says:
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    @Simply Fred: No problem. 0-3 with 2 k’s so far today out of the 5 spot.

  18. Corey says:
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    Chipper Jones is so one of these untradeable guys. I can’t get a fair offer for him. The best I’ve gotten is Nick Johnson.

  19. Doug Ault says:
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    @mgeoffriau: I too was trying to move Atkins since almost day 1, not a sniff.Inge was another guy I couldn’t get rid of fast enough after his fast start,another hard sell, I felt Soto would wake up.I’m happy I kept him now,if Soto keeps rolling I can use Inge at 3rd or the corner.

  20. anoraxx says:
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    Nice, 2Ks for Kemp, that will definitely convince Torre to keep him in the 5th hole. Great job, Matt, great job.

  21. @Corey: everyones afraid of him getting hurt at any moment…. when you draft chipper you just pray for 130 games and have some type of decent back up, AND DONT PLAN TO DEAL HIM… haha

  22. jake fox is having a solid day, worth grabbing? he got dropped last week in my league…

    Or is he just getting AB’s because its a DH situation…?

  23. steamer says:
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    Someone just offered me his Arod for my Haren. It’s a H2H league & I’m winning in pitching every week. Besides Haren I already Carpenter, Bills, Cueto, Bedard, Floyd, Kazmir. My current 3B is DeRosa. Do I buy Arod or hold tight? I’m also winning in batting most weeks, so I don’t need the bat that bad.

  24. @anoraxx: HAHA ya i complain CONSTANTLY about where kemp hits…. down in the order, but every effff’n time he does get moved up he does NOTHING!

  25. excuse me “up in the order”

  26. Scott says:
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    @steamer: Do it. Haren ALWAYS has a 2nd half slide.

  27. ahhh crap i was right in what i said the first time, dammit kemp you make me crazy…

  28. @steamer: is it a league like mine where a wins worth like 7 pts, etc?

    I’d hold on Haren, he went 8-3 last year, the era went from the 2’s to the 4’s, but if its how my one league is i’m in he’s still very valuable….

    Arod is a very nice return, just hope he comes back to reality and stops pussyfooting around….

  29. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    Great post, Grey. Every year, there’s a few kind of players who are untradeable:

    1) Hyped but unproven prospects who struggle (Chris Davis)

    2) Last-year wonders who struggle this year (Jose Cantu)

    3) This-year wonders who no one believes in (Zobrist, Edwin Jackson)

    4) Middle-tier craptastic pitchers (Lilly)

    5) Blahtastic preseason bust-picks who are, in fact, busting (Atkins)

    However, as I did with Edwin, you can probably find one guy who thinks you think you’re selling high, and he secretly believes the hype, so will actually make a trade with you for player #3.

    As for 1 and 2 and 4 and 5, good luck with that.

    Though I do love the strategy of trading your bust for his bust, if only to swap busts.

  30. Doug Ault says:
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    Is it worth keeping Pierre after Manny gets back?
    I have a short bench in the league I own him,and at 2 starts a week it doesn’t make much sense.The thing is,any injury in the outfield and he’s a regular again, but nobody is going to give you anything in a trade for him.I just don’t wanna cut the guy

  31. Ant says:
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    Alexei or Tulo for Joba? I need some starting pitching and I have Tulo,Alexi,Cano, and Hill. Any input to get some good pitchers out of these guys would be awesome

  32. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Ant: Trade Alexei for a 2nd to 3rd tier pitcher. Think F-Her, Wainwright, Scherzer then Joba.

  33. john says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: how dare you call my currently best ranked pitcher craptastic! (thanks for underperforming Bills and Shields!)

  34. Rick Dempsey says:
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    @Grey: …. Who would you consider a better pickup? Blanton, Happ, or Scott Baker?

  35. mgeoffriau

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    LMAO….just freaked out a bit when I saw the headline, “Soto failed drug test at WBC.”

    Apparently he’s a toker.

  36. Baron Von Vulturewins

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    @john: And Bills just pooped the bed against AJ Pierzieniskiy.

    BILLINGSLEY!!!!

  37. john says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Yea, I’ve been Billy Clubbed (< new term invented just for this special occasion)in pitching today

  38. Simply Fred

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    @Scott: Time to start the campaign: “What’s wrong with Torre? Get Kemp back in the 9 hole!”

  39. Dingo says:
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    Great post, but I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea that someone with Zobrist would be open to trading him for Liriano. Zobrist-types and Liriano-types are both difficult to trade, but for opposite reasons. The Zobrist-holder would be trying to sell high on his uncertain commodity, while the Liriano-holder would be trying to get anything of value for his damaged goods. I can see a damaged-goods for damaged-goods swap, but damaged-goods for sell-high doesn’t quite seem to fit.

  40. mgeoffriau

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    @Simply Fred: I’m developing a theory about Torre that postulates that his encroaching senility has led him to believe that he’s still managing the Yankees, and that he fills out his lineup card accordingly. To take an example box score from June 3rd, consider the actual lineup, and then the corresponding Yankees in parentheses.

    LF Pierre (Damon)
    SS Furcal (Jeter)
    1B Loney (Teixeira)
    3B Blake (A Rod)
    RF Ethier (Swisher)
    C Martin (Posada)
    CF Kemp (Gardner/Cabrera)
    2B Castro (Cano)
    P Billingsley

    I figure somewhere around the 8 or 9 spot, he suddenly realizes he’s managing the Dodgers and not the Yankees, but by then he’s too worn out to start over, so he just leaves the first part of the lineup and fills in the last spot with the pitcher.

    Tell me this theory doesn’t make at least as much sense as any other explanation for batting Kemp 7th and 8th all year.

  41. Simply Fred

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    @mgeoffriau: Would have thought you nailed it if Steve hadn’t revealed Kemp’s performance by batting order position. The lower he goes the better he performs and makes Joe smile.

  42. Grey

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    @Dingo: Me thinky it makes sense, but it might not. Tell me if you’re still having a hard time figuring it out. I’ll have mgeoffriau explain.

  43. Simply Fred

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    @mgeoffriau: BTW, what planet are you from? Lineup comparison scary aligned.

  44. SRM says:
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    @Tony Y: @Grey: Fox did play 3B yesterday and actually made a couple good plays. He’s played LF too when Soriano needed a “mental break”. That said, he looked like Sandoval playing SS during one play at third that Aramis could have made in his sleep and he’s DH today. The guy can hit, but without an every day job, it’s a stretch for 12-team or shallower.

  45. john says:
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    My Ludwick and F-Cord for his Victorino?..h2h, my other OF are Rios, Markakis and my remaining closers/pseudo-closers are Aardsma, Howell and Meyer

  46. Grey

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    @john: Good in theory, but not crazy about it for you. Victorino coupled with Rios and Markakis leaves a bit of a power vacuum. Unless you have solid cornermen.

  47. john says:
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    @Grey: I have Reynolds and Fielder as my corner men, Hill at 2B and Greene filling in at SS for now..I still would prefer to get more of a power OF but I don’t think there is much of anything I can trade for, at least not until Aramis comes back at which point maybe I can trade him or Reynolds for one

  48. Thank you Dr. Nick Riviera.

  49. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @john: I’d take Victorino there. You can cover with Fielder and Reynolds, then Aramis.

    @Boss Hogg: Hehe

  50. john says:
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    @Grey: Yes, I hope so. But I’d be happy to just get Ludwick off my team…I didn’t like him last year, yet owned for a month or so, and I didn’t like him this year, yet find myself owning him again.

  51. Doc says:
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    They are reporting that Michael Jackson has died.

  52. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Doc: Isn’t that Farrah Fawcett?

  53. Doc says:
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    @Grey: So in the law of threes that closes off what Ed McMahon started, right?

  54. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Doc: I’m watching CNN rigth now. The haven’t said he’s dead.

  55. EJ says:
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    10 team H2H, need Avg. and runs and would love to get Ichiro or someone similar at the top of the lineup. My only leadoff type guy is Victorino until Reyes gets back.

    Looks like his owner needs pitching, which is where I’m stacked (good draft and a couple trades). And I can also throw in an OF if necessary since I have Manny coming back in a week. Here’s my pitchers and OFs:

    Josh Johnson, Yovani, Cain, CC, Oswalt, Joba, Jurrjens, Scherzer

    Abreu, Victorino, J Upton, Cruz, Hart

    Where does a Scherzer + Abreu for Ichiro sit? I’d prefer not to involve Josh or Yovani.

  56. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Doc: Wow

    @EJ: I don’t think Scherzer/Abreu’s going to do it. Maybe Justin/Scherzer?

  57. Mike says:
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    @Grey: I have 4 closers in a 16 team H2H – Bell, Sherrill, Howell, Frasor. What would be the right return to expect for Howell + Frasor? Scott Baker/Gavin Floyd type? Or should I sit tight and take the saves they give me?

  58. Doc says:
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    @Grey: Knowing TMZ’s journalistic integrity I’m waiting until I hear something from CNN or the like.

  59. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Mike: Baker is a good target there. Maybe Scherzer? Maybe Lowe? Maybe Lilly?

  60. Simply Fred

    Simply Fred says:
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    @Doc: CNN reports “Taken to hospital w/cardiac arrest.”

  61. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Doc: LA Times is saying coma.

  62. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Simply Fred: Actually, LA Times is now saying he’s dead. Wow.

  63. big o says:
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    @Doc:
    @Grey:

    so , tim lincecum can officially keep “the freak” as a nickname ?

  64. BigFatHippo says:
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    He’s been struck by….

    A smooth cardiac………………

  65. Doc says:
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    Kemp 0-6 with 4 K’s. Ugh and Argh

  66. john says:
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    @BigFatHippo: wow..i’d say waaay too soon, but it made me laugh so i’d be a hypocritical bastard instead of just a bastard

  67. BigFatHippo says:
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    @john: Sorry, but I can’t help wondering if there’ll be a Jackson 4 Reunion Tour………

  68. Doug Ault says:
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    @Grey: Are there any big Micheal Jackson fans playing tonite? I was thinking I should bench them, it might mess with their game

  69. jesse says:
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    so apropos…i was offered liriano for bruce. is good?

  70. big o says:
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    @Doug Ault:
    never heard of fantasy tee-ball .

  71. john says:
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    @BigFatHippo: I think what we really need to be concerned with is if the Thriller video will turn into reality…choreographed dead zombies with Jackson as their leader? God Help Us All

  72. Denys says:
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    michael are you ok? are you ok? are you ok michael?

  73. BigFatHippo says:
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    @john: Ha, as long as they’re not after my kids I’d be down with that.

    @Grey: On to baseball….

    Fantasy baseball takes no vacation. In the last week in the RCL, I have acquired Pierre/Kazmir for Franklin then acquired Pence/Bruce/Wainwright for Dunn/Bourn/ Kazmir.

    This makes it essentially Pence/Bruce/Pierre/Wainwright for Dunn/Bourn/Franklin.

    Win or “eh”? Am thinking eh, since I have Ibanez coming back.

  74. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Denys: Awesome!

  75. Greg says:
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    Slowey @ STL tomorrow?

  76. Denys says:
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    one more: i guess his heart just beat it.

  77. john says:
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    @Denys: @BigFatHippo: ..i’m pretty sure we’re all going to hell

  78. Denys says:
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    @john: window seat please!

  79. john says:
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    @Denys: lol, fine but you’re buyin my headset for the movie

  80. Denys says:
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    @john: speaking of movies. wonder who’ll play mike in movie about his life… you know hollywood just can’t wait to cash in on this somehow.

  81. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Denys: First: Omar Epps, then Johnny Depp………..

  82. john says:
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    @BigFatHippo: Hahah, those are exactly the same two actors I was gonna say…with Gary Coleman playing the young Jackson

  83. john says:
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    @Grey: Now the guy doesn’t want Ludwick, I wish he’d make up his mind…I assume Lowell/F-Cord or Soto/F-Cord for Victorino are better deals in your mind?…Iannetta is on the ww if it comes to that

  84. big o says:
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    watching the game to see if smoltz will survive his 1st outing ,
    but , this curly-Q “W” that is the nats logo is a little too pansy-ish ,
    and detracts from the game .
    wonder if frank howard would have worn it .

  85. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @john: They are better, yeah.

    @big o: Smoltzy doesn’t look like he’s going to get a curly-Q W.

    EDIT: Word.

  86. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: To an extent, worried about Pierre’s playing time and Bruce upside.

    Ie; Think Pierre gets traded? Does Bruce bat at least .250 in the 2nd half? Is Bourn a .290 hitter? The deal hinges on these factors.

  87. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @BigFatHippo: Agreed. If those are all answered in the positive, then the deal works out great for you, but there are some ifs.

  88. Robert says:
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    I am desperate for power. I know most believe that Rios will come around but I am starting to doubt. I have Hardy at SS. What if I could get Bruce and S. Drew for Rios. Am I going to wish I had kept Rios? Other guy has Tejada and is willing to trade Drew.

  89. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: Remember…..

    If if’s and but’s were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry fu^*#ng christmas…………..

  90. Dingo says:
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    @Grey: I think it was just a case of the examples you were using. If it were a player who seemed to be more unlucky than bad, then I’d see the reason to trade a flash-in-the-pan for an underperformer. But Liriano looks like he’s been both unlucky and bad this year.

    Meanwhile, the Zobrist I have come to know and love has finally returned. Thank you, Tony Bastard!

  91. Dingo says:
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    @john: Awkward Michael Jackson moment of the day:

    My office has a Trivia Night thing going on in the conference room, while I’ve been “working” at my cubicle. After reading about Michael’s demise, I stopped in on the Trivia to grab a slice of pizza. While I was there, the Trivia MC asked a question and put on a song to mark the time for group deliberation. The song? “Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough.” I asked the group nearest to me if the MC had put on the song as a tribute, and I got a bunch of blank stares. Nobody in the room had heard the news, including the MC. It was fun to watch the news spread from group to group, accompanied by shouts of “Really?” “Are you serious?” (with Michael singing in the background).

  92. Wizo says:
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    trade jobacum for bruce?

  93. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Dingo: That’s a tremendous story.

    @Wizo: If you need an outfielder, sure. But you might be able to get better with Jobacum.

  94. Sucklingduck says:
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    Cain and Choo Choo for Lackey and Rios? I think I’m going for it.

    It’s pretty pathetic that the most reliable media outlet for MJ news is TMZ. They called it way before the supposed more “reliable” sources. ABC had a story on the Real Housewives of New Jersey porn tape! Who the hell cares about some sex tape! Wait……… I’m gonna investigate.

  95. Doc says:
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    Votto is 3-for-3 with two singles and a double and 2 RBI. I tried buying low, but nobody wanted to give him up. Oh well, it’s good to see him back at it.

  96. Grey

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    @Sucklingduck: Ha! That deal’s real close. Not a huge win in your favor.

  97. Chase says:
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    Brilliant post, Grey

  98. john says:
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    @Dingo: haha, wow..you shoulda said “Apparently, Michael got enough.” right as you walked into the room

  99. Steve says:
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    Derek Lowe owner here. It hurts to sit down.

  100. jerkstore says:
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    desperate for starters this week … contreras v. cubs or Hammel at Oakland?

  101. paulzone says:
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    drop qualls for frasor, gonzalez or nunez?

  102. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    and votto goes yard

  103. john says:
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    Votto!

  104. paulzone says:
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    @Steve: yeah, i’m sore too. had a busy day today…i remember saying oops he’s playing the yankees…

  105. paulzone says:
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    lowe or cook? is lowe cooked? or is cook lowe?

    who would you rather own…

  106. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    i just hope the nats pull j zimm out now after 7 big innings he gave me in 2 leagues,109 pitches,surely he`s done

  107. Robert says:
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    For the rest of the year: Cruz or Rios?

  108. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: San Diego 3-6 against the likes of Seattle and Oakland since I said they’d be lucky to win 1/3 of remaining games. The good news–they still have 6 (the rest of the season) against AZ.

  109. was offered A-rod, Uggla, and A. Gonzalez for Fielder and Utley

    I can’t do this right? I need a 3B (I have a Pablo/F Lopez platoon in there) but I just wanna check with the experts

  110. Dim says:
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    Verlander+Manny or Dunn, Haren + Scherzer?

  111. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Lowe will be glad to get away from the AL East. He’ll bounce back.

    He said hopefully.

  112. Denys says:
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    alright guys. one more b4 i update my team in the forums.

    cardiac arrest @ 50?… i guess he really was black after all.

  113. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: BTW, thanks for support of Aardsma as a reasonable alternative to Bell. Aardsma best reliever in MLB since May 15 with 12 saves, 2 wins, and 25 K in 17.2.

  114. sean says:
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    Glad to see Joseph Votto is starting slow: 4-4, 2B, HR, 3 RBI, 2 R

  115. So i wasssss getting shelled this week in pitching, threw WOLFY and UBALDONUTS…..

    my oppenent tonight throws RICH HILL AND LOWE!

    God what a great night, the fantasy gods are smiling…. DRINK!!!!

  116. paulzone says:
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    i am a cano and hill owner. if choosing straight up, i’d take cano. so, i’ve tried every team in the league and no one will trade for hill. by the rationale in your newest post, i should just trade cano and put hill in 2b. agreed?

  117. Schlitzy says:
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    guess who didn’t activate Votto on Monday? Next day for moves is tomorrow…great! Morrow worth a pick up in a 15 and 12 teamer? Would dump Gamel from both teams.

  118. SRM says:
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    @Grey: Was offered Votto for my M Young in a 12-team, non-keeper, 6×6 with OPS. Seems good, but how much more valuable is Votto than Young (SS, 3B) when I’d have to slide F Lopez or post-DL Lowrie to cover SS?

  119. john says:
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    Thank you Fielder, Votto, Reynolds, Hill for the offense with a little side of Markakis…however, screw you Bills and Lilly for the crappy pitching

  120. knighttown says:
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    Twice Ticker Teased!! Rays and Yanks both put up 10 and Upton and Teixera are 0-7.

  121. Mini Donkey #20!

  122. @Elijah: SO MAD MY PRIORITY WASN’T HIGH ENOUGH TO GRAB HIM AFTER HIS HUGE GAME 3 WEEKS AGO OR WHENEVER….

    DAMN MINI DONKEY….

  123. Dim says:
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    Pujols & Cain for Prince, Haren, Scherzer?

  124. Wizo says:
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    was offered Cruz, Bruce, F-Lo for my Holliday, Jobacum, Homer B? non-keeper, OBP. My pitching is dece so I can loose Max and my OF is Kemp, Mclouth, Ludwick, Holliday in my Util. My goal is to upgrade over Ludwick. Cruz > Holliday before this month? Then Bruce is a better play than Ludwick the rest of the year? He told me he wanted a closer, I think he messed up on the Irish Cream.

  125. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Schlitzy: I’d dump Gamel and grab Morrow.

    @SRM: I’d want Votto.

    @Elijah: Sweet!

    @Dim: I’d take the Pujols side.

    @Wizo: re: Irish Cream — ha! I’d take the Bruce side.

  126. Gareth says:
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    Nolasco is available. Drop Meche, Hanson or Smoltz to get him?

  127. Simply Fred

    Simply Fred says:
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    @Grey: “Trust in the Zo.” Gold!

  128. Make that #21 MINI DONKEY!!!

  129. Grey

    Grey says:
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    Get on the Donkey!

  130. Absoultely crushed it too…

  131. only 2nd allowed all year by Francisco.

  132. Dingo says:
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    @john: Ouch! No respect for the dead!

    And yes, it is a good day to own Fielder, Votto, and Reynolds. Toss in a little Berkman & Zobrist, and you’ve got yourself a tidy 7-HR day

  133. big o says:
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    ok , so it’s big news that soto was smoking a little grass (pot/ganja) before the wbc … and now he’ll pay the consequences .

    what i’d like to know , (and a simple show of hands will suffice) , of all the people in this room ……

    cust kayin’ .

    @Grey:
    is this why the total # of individual commentors posts are not available ?
    are they being reviewed/revised due to possible enhancements ??

  134. john says:
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    @Dingo: Yes, we’ve already established that I’m goin to hell with a free movie headset courtesy of Denys…

    And wow nice, it was only a 5 hr day for me, but I’ll just have to live with it.

  135. BigFatHippo says:
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    @big o: Guilty as charged……..

    But I’m on vacay so it doesn’t count.

  136. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: We were getting too many comments and it was slowing the site down. I’m looking into a way of bringing it back. Might take moving to a better web server.

  137. DrEasy says:
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    Burrell or Luke Scott?

  138. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @DrEasy: Give Burrell a whirl.

  139. reveries says:
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    This post makes me happy because I DO have Jeter and Zobrist. I usually play the Zo in OF anywho or back up for Jeter when he isn’t playing. He’s in there every day one way or another. That’s what’s great about him. Right now, he’s hitting as well as anyone but, at the core, is a utility guy fantasy-wise.

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