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It’s super fun to put all our prospect eggs in C*nt Hurdle’s basket, isn’t it?  A basket of desirables, if you will.  “I’m sorry I said that deplorables comment in my one unguarded moment all campaign.  It won’t happen again,” and with that — beep-beep-booooop — Hillary-bot powered down.  Up front, I’m going to get out of the way the biggest drawback for Austin Meadows.  I don’t think he has an everyday job unless Andrew McCutchen gets hurt or traded.  “Why you gots to prospblock me, yo?”  That’s Austin Meadows.  Or maybe Meadows sneaks in if the same injury fate befalls Gregory Polanco or Starling Marte, but I don’t be-fault you for thinking McCutchen gets moved or nothing happens with Meadows in 2017.  Shoot (not you, Raylan Givens!), Meadows may not see a full-time job until 2019 when he’ll still only be 24.  That obviously would be a waste of his talent, but I’m talking real world circumstances and you have Hurdle and the hurdle of McCutchen’s contract going through to 2018.  Sure, maybe McCutchen gets moved to a corner outfield slot, but then what?  Marte moves to center and Meadows is still without a job.  Does this all sound like it’s leading up to a fun 2017 projection for Meadows?  Or put more segue-y… Anyway, what can we expect from Austin Meadows for 2017 fantasy baseball?

Absolutely nothing from him in 2017 seems too conservative since he is a great talent.  Actually, his talent is the only reason we’re talking about him.  If he was even a B-level prospect, there would be no reason to talk about him, because he is so prospblocked in the Pirates’ outfield.  In the minor leagues (across Double and Triple-A), he had 12 homers and 17 steals in only 293 ABs.  “Excuse me, Mr. Meadows, can you put down the video game controller for a moment and explain your video game numbers?”  At FanGraphs, they said, “Despite a prodigious posterior and a body that mostly suggested (Meadows) would hit for power,” blah blah blah it hadn’t shown up yet.  I guess he needed to put his back into to it, as the rappers say.  Honestly, I found that quote so puzzling I Googled Meadows + butt, and it returned results for Audrey Meadows’ badonkadonk.  Yo, Audrey Meadows was hot!  Wow!  Can I get a humm-a-na-humm-a-na?  But Austin Meadows?  He got a baby badonkadonk that couldn’t booty bump with Jonathan Broxton if they were on a dance floor simultaneously.  Weird for me to say this since I am white, but that above FanGraphs quote is so white, it should’ve been written in mayonnaise while watching Seinfeld.  Back to Austin Meadows, his booty aside, the power did come in 2016 as the previous stats show.  Oh, that’s right, the power came for him as a 21-year-old!  Meadows has NL Rookie of the Year in 2017 written all over him if the Pirates move McCutchen in a trade, and not just for real world value, but Meadows will be a fantasy beast.  Though, as I said in the 1st paragraph, it may not come until 2018 or even 2019.  If it’s 2019, it’s a damn waste, if it’s 2018, it’s understandable, if it’s 2017, then giddy up in all leagues!  For 2017, I’ll give him the projections of 19/3/15/.289/6 in 105 ABs, though you multiple those by five if he has an everyday job in April and things get pretty pretty, pretty fast.  Nah’mean?

   
  1. JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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    Its lonely in these comments…Good Morning boo.

  2. Ralph Lifshitz

    Ralph Lifshitz says:
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    Hurry up and adopt the DH National League

    • Big Odio says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: did I read he has an arm like a little leaguer?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: I heard you say that on your podcast, I don’t agree… Would prefer pitcher hitting in both leagues…Though, I think it would go your way before mine

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        Agree with M.E.G.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          MEG!

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Grey: I get that it’s the traditional game and helps boost pitching stats from a fantasy perspective. But wouldn’t it be better if we got bad fielders out of the field, and replaced awful hitting pitchers with professional hitters?

        I don’t know I want all of my Muppet Babies to have a job.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’m a traditionlist… DH takes all strategy away from managers on offense… They’re left with middle relief management… At least if pitchers are hitting, then you can pinch hit, rearrange fielders, double switches and the like… Plus, there’s plenty of offense without DH… NL’s better offensive league

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            @Grey:
            I so agree with you! Leave it alone, I like the DH in the AL and not in the NL!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup

          • Ralph Lifshitz

            Ralph Lifshitz says:
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            @Grey: Did you just go real baseball on me?

            The NL is a better offensive league? Even with arguably the two best offensive parks in baseball AL teams always lead the MLB in runs. Wouldn’t you like another everyday hitter to start in Coors?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Nah, there’s plenty of offense in Coors already for me…

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Oh, and to my point, the NL scored 718 runs last year, AL scored 731 runs… 13 runs more and only 19 more at-bats for the AL…And they have one extra hitter in their lineup…

                • Ralph Lifshitz

                  Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                  @Grey: The NL and AL leaders?

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Leaders of what? Runs? RBIs? HRs? I don’t follow

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Grey: oh you two, this is simple, There are 9 players on the field and in the NL that is honored. In the AL, you have 10. Its fucking stupid the AL did that. Bitchball to me

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You two? I’m the one saying NL does it right

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

                      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                      @Grey: You meant averages. I didn’t know where your numbers came from.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh! My bad, the numbers come from ESPN… I gave the amount of runs scored in the NL vs the AL…AL barely outscored them combined….

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ralph, I’m surprised you want the NL to have the DH, never took you for such a progressive

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Grey: Im agreeing with you….for once

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha, you even have to undercut your agreement…. You’re worse than my father for approval!

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Grey: *takes off belt* get your ass over here….right now!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

                      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                      @Grey: I grew up watching AL baseball, and one of the best hitters for my favorite club was a DH. So my perception is shaped by that.

                      I’m not really a traditionalist about anything.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Who was your favorite DH?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Please tell me Dwight Evans

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

                      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                      @Grey: Ortiz, I mean it sort has to be. Dewey Evans is always a RF to me.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh, I tried too hard to think of an obscure pre-Ortiz DH, like one you would’ve identified with when you were a kid

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

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                      @Grey: It probabalt wouldn’t have been a Red Sox DH. Probably like Edger. I always liked Travis Hafner too. No idea why.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I enjoy that you have a real soft spot for the athletically-challenged

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      wouldn’t that be the mobility challenged?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That sounds much worse

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Grey: If a guy could pinch hit in a motorized cart, the AL would do it

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      For reference, see Billy Butler

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

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                      @Grey: Hell yeah! I’ll take Ortiz or whatever hit only guy over a Jason Heyward/ JD Drew guy. Overrated athletes!!!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Heyward’s an easy garbage player right now to put down… You take Ortiz over Trout?

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Ralph Lifshitz: I wouldn’t take many in history over Trout. That’s even worse than my Heyward choice. Heyward is the ultimate athlete/tools/NL type guy.

                    BTW I’m so commited to this argument I’m responding from Frontierland in Disneyworld while I’m carrying my daughter on my shoulders. Lol I’m nuts!!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Hahaha…I believe in Disney it’s called being Goofy

                    • COURT-VISION says:
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                      AL baseball is a joke. DH to the NL would kill the sport. When asked this year what managing in an AL ballpark was like, Bruce Bochy said it “is like taking a day off”.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      HA! Nice!

          • bigbear says:
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            @Grey: This! Chapman going in with 1 out in the 7th, then Maddon was forced to make a decision again in the bottom of the 8th whether to pinch hit or not. Quality baseball.

            • Grey

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              Yup!

            • Ralph Lifshitz

              Ralph Lifshitz says:
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              @bigbear: How painful was that at bat to watch? It was disgusting.

      • SwaggerJackers says:
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        @Grey: I’d be fine with either way as long as it gets standardized.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, in some ways though there’s charm that the two leagues are different… It’s kinda crazy, don’t get me wrong… Imagine in the NFL, there was no punting in the NFC

          • swaggerjackers says:
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            @Grey: Exactly. In other sports it seems like a ridiculous idea but in baseball it’s accepted.

            From a pure athletes perspective, I’d rather see the NL rules used so everyone has to play the field and pitchers get to impact both sides of the game.

            Sorry Twins, figure out somewhere to play Sano.

  3. CMUTimmah says:
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    One of my friends did something deplorable 3 years ago at our draft… he drafted Austin Meadows as a high school senior in a keeper league, then tweeted him saying welcome to his organization in reply to a tweet Austin had posted about PROM.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @CMUTimmah: HA! Does he still have him? How has that worked out for him?

  4. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Schwarber time in Cleveland on Tuesday night..

    Cubs in seven!

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      May the Schwarb’s be with you!

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        Ok, here’s hoping you are not a M.E.G.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        @Grey:
        No way, Arrieta pitches better then he did in game 2 and Cubs bats continue to come to life

        CUBS in 7!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          We’ll see!

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            @Grey:
            I would really like to see Madden flip flop Bryant and Zobrist in the lineup..Bryant needs to come up with men on base, and Zobrist is not a clean-up hitter..

            • Count de Monetball says:
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              That plan sounds solid; personally, I would like the coaches to tell Javier to swing at the first pitch!

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Or just bunt

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              It should’ve been like that all season, but wasn’t…

              • Count de Monetball says:
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                You nailed it Grey, I would love to see the guys bunt more, especially with the way the field has been lined up for Rizzo (mega shift). Seriously, if you were given that defensive positioning 100% of the time and all you did was bunt? What would your B.A. be, .800 (obviously wouldn’t happen in real life). This is the WS cubbies, run all out to first base every time and take what the D gives you… I hate to say it, but I think the cubs have gotten out-managed so far. Its clear that the Indians have had a solid game plan (pitching strategy and defensive alignment)

                • Malicious Phenoms says:
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                  @Count de Monetball:
                  They need to outlaw the shifts..

                  • Count de Monetball says:
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                    I hear ya MP, but the cool things about the shift, is it gives the batters a chance to take advantage of the shift. These could be negated/minimized if batters would just take advantage of what they are given. You don’t like having the shift use against you, beat it/take advantage… If HR to the Izzo would have bunted 4+ times by now, the D probably wouldn’t be utilizing in most situations…

                • Grey

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                  Also surprised to see the Cubs’ OBP go up in smoke… where’s the walks?

                  • Malicious Phenoms says:
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                    @Grey:
                    They are swinging at everything, everybody trying to be a hero by going for the solo homer.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, exactly… Especially everyone after Zobrist in the lineup

              • Malicious Phenoms says:
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                @Grey:
                Exactly. Maddon is suppose to be some sort of genius but that is just wack..

                Fowler
                Zobrist
                Rizzo
                Bryant

                That should be there top 4.

                • Grey

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                  Seems so obvious, but the Cubs did win 103 games this year with Zobrist hitting more cleanup than Bryant

  5. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!!!!

    Made it to civilization only to find out the Internet at the hotel is no good, [yadda] cubed. Great write-up and hope you had a great weekend.

    a. Met a guy named Joe at the pool at the Hilton Hotel in N’Djamena. It costs 10$ to access the pool all day, fairly cheap when considering that the taxi ride to the Hilton from our hotel was the same price!!! Joe is in a unit of 4 other guys who are doing work for the DoD – all of them named Joe!! It’s weird, right? Anyway they’re doing serious top secret stuff that for sure no one knows about. When they finish the project they go home, no other news forthcoming. He plays fantasy football and I referred him to razzball dot com, so that makes 3 hits from Africa for razzball! Only 9999997 more to go diamond!

    b. Still like the Tribe to win, it’s gonna be a helluva a finish.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: You too! Glad to hear you made it there safe… A. Awesome! Ring up those Africa Razzball hits! One thing though, maybe their names aren’t really Joe, and they’re top secret stuff requires a fake name? B. Yup!

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: Grey!

        LOL, only there are 5 guys, Joe and the four others in his unit all named Joe. For sure their names aren’t Joe. He was very very secretive about everything about the project. He was however super forthcoming about his fantasy football draft strategy / team.

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          “He was however super forthcoming about his fantasy football draft strategy / team.”

          He’s got all kinds of secrets in all facets of his life, except fantasy…He needs to talk about something!

          • Ante GALIC says:
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            @Grey: Grey!

            It’s like he was brainwashed NOT to talk about it. Like a bizarre episode of Scooby Doo!

            Cheers,
            Ante

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha… He’s got nothing else! Humor him!

    • branta says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Four Guys Named Joe, coming this fall to ABC

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        All four are played by Matt LeBlanc!

  6. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Smells like a tasty $0 keeper reserve round pick to me!!

    Just saw rumors that Miami will look to trade Dee and/or OZUNA for pitching. Do you see OZUNA going anywhere that would significantly change his outlook? (COL seems highly doubtful)

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: I like it! Definitely improves his keeper chances for me if he does get moved. Maybe even CLE (they’ve been looking for OF and could move a Bauer type). Would love a hitter friendly park on a team that likes stealing. That’s all it’ll take to make him a 30/30 player right?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I should’ve said there’s likely few places he could go that would be worse… Crayola Canyon isn’t great and the Marlins/NL East aren’t good either

      • ChiCitySox23 says:
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        @Grey:
        This has Rick Hahn and the White Sox written all over it. Welcome to Miami Jose Quintana.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Then Quintana would suddenly have his worst year ala Wei-Yin

  7. Tweak says:
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    I’m not sure that I’m quite as bullish as Grey here, but he’s looking pretty solid. If the Pirates are anywhere near a playoff spot by the trade deadline next season, they’d be nuts not to move Cutch for pitching (as sad as it would be to see him leave Pittsburgh). I think Meadows gets play down the stretch and maybe only enough ABs to hold him back to win ROTY in 2018.

    Overall, I’m glad to see some support for Meadows. It gives me all those happy feels looking at my lineup in my dynasty league with MP running the show. He won this past year, but my future OF is shaping up to be Mazara, Pederson, and some combination of Meadows, Lewis Brinson, Ian Happ, Clint Frazier, Alex Verdugo and Tyler O’Neill with Derek Fisher, Harrison Bader, Adam Eaton and Max Kepler as hangers-on.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice prospects you got!

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Tweak:
      My man Homestead here is loaded with prospects. He is and will be the number 1 challenger to my title..

      He took a so-so team made some solid trades and solid free agent pickups all in this his first year..Well done, man!

  8. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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    I’m not sure the Pirates would make such a savvy move that involved trading the face of the franchise while they can still see the cliff he’s about to plummet off.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Savvy’s a good word for what the move would be, would tae rather large balls too… I don’t think it happens either, which is why I only gave Meadows 105 ABs

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Grey: Hell, I could see them resigning him.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, sadly, I can see that too

    • Big Odio says:
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      @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I can’t see them moving cutch. What do they need? They have a solid young staff and with one of the best pitching coaches in baseball they can play the small market payroll and be fine. TheI only major need would be first base. The problem is they will never pony up to sign one and that means they need to groom one. Look at Cleveland right now, outside of kluber they are trotting the B team out on the mound and still doing fine.

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Big Odio: I don’t think they move him either, but it will be so they don’t upset all of the new, uninformed fans they’ve collected the past few years who don’t realize he’s now their 3rd best outfielder.

        Josh Bell can be their 1B and he would be better than anyone they’ve had playing there recently.

        • Big Odio says:
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          @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I have to wonder about Bell. THEY seemed hesitant with him. I also think meadows gets moved to add rhat needed piece…whatever that may be

          • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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            @Big Odio: Think it was the same problem as Meadows, he was supposed to be an OF. Believe he just started playing 1B within the last year or two.

            • Big Odio says:
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              @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: to be honest, I think so little of meadows I wonder why grey even wrote about him

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                What is Big Odio, btw? Did I miss something?

                • Big Odio says:
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                  @Grey: Matty Truss renamed me after I won Perts. Like Big Papi, I’m Big Hate…in Spanglish

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Oh! Odio is hate in Spanish? I had no idea…I mean, of course I knew that!

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Grey: pinche gringo albright

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Super gringo-ey

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Grey: Gringo Albright

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    HA!

              • Ralph Lifshitz

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                @Big Odio: Outside of injuries there’s not much to dislike about Meadows. He’s just hurt a lot, definitely a perfect fantasy toolset. Contact, speed, and pop.

  9. Big Odio says:
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    Call me a hater or a pessimist or a guy that don’t believe the hype….Chuck D! Seriously though the headlines feel like the Cubs have already mounted the most amazing comeback in sports history. Lets see here, they have beaten Trevor Bauer twice. That’s it. You had your best games against drone boy? that’s amazing *sarcasm*. I will also take this time to point out how many times it gets referenced the amazing Cleveland staff of 2016 and yet almost always fail to mention Carassco and Salazar. You cant talk about the staff numbers in the season then in the world series when 2 of the 5, who were way better than Bauer and Tomlin, aren’t there, you reference the team numbers. FFS!

    Also Kerry Wood is a fucking moron. He was on Dan Patrick the other day and between all the offensive players to choose from to start a franchise, he couldn’t decide between Bryant or Schwarber. This idiot couldnt figure out if the NL MVP, most likely, or a .250ish hitter who is a defensive liability would be the best player to start a frachise with. Forget Rizzo, he’s old I guess. But really Wood, what else did Dusty do to you. Did he remove logic and reason from your brain?

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Big Odio: Schwarber is grossly overrated. It’s like he’s Moobs Jesus.

    • Grey

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      Wood likely could land on one of them b/c everyone’s so politically correct, he didn’t want to insult anyone that loves Schwarber, or have it made into something by the media… I can’t believe Salazar and Carrasco are out and the Indians are this deep into the playoffs, shows that one great pitcher can carry a club and Kluber needs to win the World Series MVP

      • M says:
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        @Grey: Yes the Indians are a great team but I agree I can’t believe they’re where they are now with losing both Carrasco & Salazar from the rotation. Yesterday’s broadcast showed the Indians playoff ERA split between Starters/RP’s and they were almost identical

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Crazy, shows how far one great starter and a great pen can go

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: maybe on wood. He also chose Hendrick over Arrieta which I agree on. But he was annidiot. YOU can usually tell.

        And no shit on that staff. Instead every article and talk radio show going on and on about the genius of epstein they shoukd be talking about how amazing the Indians have done without arguably the best staff in baseball

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Totally, agreed

  10. NL is definitely a better game…and you can write that in black truffle aioli…not that there’s anything wrong with that!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      In Kentucky they call black truffle aioli, pig shit mayonnaise

      • @Grey: Shizz, I just played in Kentucky for a whole herd of pigs! Shot aioli on more than a few!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You’re confusing aioli now with what they call man-aise

          • @Grey: Trust me on the garlic level!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Hahaha, I’ve missed you

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