Loyal (or at least frequent) readers of this site know that Grey LOVES to rub it in my face whenever he is right about a player and I am wrong. I think he has an archive of every conversation we ever had for that expressed purpose. It’s like he is keeping an NSA dossier on me and the S stands for Spite.
In the spirit of transparency – and maybe actual learning – I stitched together our 12-team mixed $ values for 2014 so there is a complete comparison out there for you to see. I am only including players where one of us gave the player a $0+ value as once you agree a guy is undraftable, there is no reason for further debate.
Some other notes:
- Through the preseason, Grey and I update our rankings nearly every day – usually driven by expected changes in playing time. This table will change as we update our $ values.
- Here are some general findings on our differences:
- Grey prices star players outside Cabrera/Trout higher than I do. We both agree that Goldschmidt is the 3rd ranked player (CORRECTION: I actually have him 4th) but I price that at $31 vs. his $41. My values show Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout so far ahead in projected value that I would go over $40 for them and would barely crack $30 for anyone else. If Cabrera, Trout, and Goldschmidt went at Grey’s prices in a 12-team auction, I think the Cabrera/Trout teams are way ahead (~$10) in team value.
- Grey has a hatred for MIs without plus power or speed. He always has low values for the Daniel Murphy/Martin Prado type. Not surprising that several of the guys where I am much higher than Grey fall in that camp.
- Grey will price guys with unsure playing time at $1-$2 if he sees upside potential (think Dee Gordon) where my values are based solely on projected stats/playing time. In 12-team mixed leagues, I consider positions like 5th SP, 5th OF, MI, and UTIL to be ‘streaming’ positions and would have no problem taking ‘upside’ bets for those positions.
- Grey has a hit/pitch ratio of 68.5/31.5 where mine is 67/33. So his hitter values are slightly higher than mine. For pitching, our total $ for SP is similar but my reliever $ dwarf his (the equivalent of $26/team vs. $15/team). This reflects our differing opinions on RP (I value them higher given their contributions to ERA/WHIP/K while Grey is SAGNOF). I think Grey’s position makes more sense if you are fantastic at getting guys off the FA wire before anyone else. My thinking is there are maybe 1-2 people per league who will always be quickest and I have no faith I will be one of them.
- At the position level, I put more $ towards catching (4.4% of $ vs. 2.6%) as Grey prices to ‘punt’ where I price based on projected value (but would only draft if a catcher came at a nice discount) and Grey is more bullish on 1B/3B (21% of $ vs. 17%). He is only 1-3% higher than me on 2B/SS and OF.