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The other day the top 10 for 2016 fantasy baseball was straight sexy like when a model on America’s Next Top Model knows how to smize and booty tooch.   Then, the next day, the top 20 for 2016 fantasy baseball was all the flavors of the Skittles rainbow melted into one giant Skittle that was a color that was not-black even though all colors together should’ve been.  Today, the top 20 catchers for 2016 fantasy baseball is the direct opposite of those wondrous achievements.  This post, here, is, um, catchers.  Lowercase yay.  Most of you know how I feel about catchers.  If you draft a catcher any time before the first 100 picks, you don’t know how I feel about catchers.  Let me freshen up your cocktail with a splash of insight.  I don’t draft top catchers in one catcher leagues.  I Reggie Roby them.  Last year, Posey was the top ranked catcher at the end of year.  Yet, he was only the 8th best 1st baseman, about as valuable as Albert Pujols, who hit only .244.  The best catcher can’t spray aerosol deodorant on the top guy for another position.  The top five catchers last year were Bust Posey, Bri McCann, Eve Gattis, Russ Martin and Sal Perez.  Only one guy was drafted in the top 100.  No one should draft a top catcher because there are no top catchers.  They’re all hot garbage with a side order of gefilte fish, or kapelka as Q-Tip calls it.  Catchers are unreliable to stay healthy; the job is grueling and takes its toll on offensive stats.  There’s not much difference between, say, the tenth best catcher and nothingness.  Last year, Welington Castillo was the tenth best catcher.  He was on waivers for at least half the season.  He was the tenth best catcher with a line of 42/19/57/.237.  Yo, Q, forget kapelka, Welington Castillo makes me vomit.  Also, with this crop of catchers — they’re actually deep in mediocrity.  You can draft the fifth best catcher or the 12th best and they’re tomato-tomato said with a different emphasis.  Because I ignore the top catchers doesn’t mean I’m starting the top 20 catcher list at number twenty-one; some of you might want to know the top catchers.  You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them draft d’Arnaud.  In two catcher leagues, catchers are a little more valuable, but I’d still prefer to avoid them.  You can see other top 20 lists for 2016 fantasy baseball under 2016 fantasy baseball rankings.  Listed along with these catchers are my 2016 projections for each player and where the tiers begin and end.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 catchers for 2016 fantasy baseball:

1. Buster Posey – This is the 1st tier.  This tier goes from here until Schwarber.  I call this tier, “Do I need a 2nd baseman?”  By the tier name, I mean that I’d be looking at drafting another position when this tier is being drafted as Mr. Intro Paragraph explained.  “You can call me Mr. IP.”  You know what’s goofy?  Looking at catcher stats in the 1990s.  Piazza’s line from 1997:  104/40/124/.362/5.  I was younger then, and apparently naive, but how did sportswriters of the time not say something like, “Okay, maybe these numbers are slightly inflated due to an illegal substance?”  By the by, what a crock that he gets into the HOF and Bonds doesn’t.  Piazza wasn’t on steroids?  His bacne says otherwise.  Oh, and in 2006, Piazza’s next to last year at 39 years of age, he hit more homers than Posey last year.  “We need a commissioner that will look the other way.”  “How about the guy who doesn’t even notice how obvious his toupee is?”  That was two baseball union representatives back in the late 80s.  As for Posey, meh, you know what he’s going to give you.  2016 Projections:  75/20/91/.310/2

2. Kyle Schwarber – This guy could excite someone on oxy, and will likely snag a few people in his crosshairs during draft season.  Even people who have never drafted a top catcher before will feel a little twitch when they see Schwarber come up on their draft sheet, assuming people still use sheets and aren’t drafting on their phone while taking a “sheet.”  I get the excitement on Schwarber, so I will attempt to quell it.  In Triple-A, he had a 34.3% strikeout percentage, then came up to the majors and had a 28.2% rate.  Normally, guys don’t hit above .250 with that kind of rate and neutral luck, and he hit .246 last year.  His plate discipline isn’t off the charts bad, but his contact rate is awful.  He doesn’t hit a ton of pitches he swings at.  If he qualified last year, he would’ve been the 4th worst player for contact rate.  From June through September/October, here’s his batting averages:  .364, .302, .221, .208.  Shorthand of what was being said on pitching mounds in June, “We can’t get this guy out.”  Shorthand in September, “Just throw him some offspeed crap in the zone.”  He could make adjustments this year, but I wouldn’t go near him to find out.  2016 Projections: 68/24/75/.228/7

3. Salvador Perez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until McCann.  I call this tier, “Not quite, kung fu fight.”  The tier name means, this tier isn’t quite the top tier and it’s not quite the next tier.  The ‘kung fu fight’ part means nothing but it rhymes.  As for Perez, after the last two seasons of the regular season and the postseason, it’s not surprising that “Royals catcher” anagrams to “C rear, lots achy.”  Still, he’s only 25 years old and he looks like he’s only now entering his prime hitting years, after hitting 21 HRs last year.  Am I drafting him?  Nope.  Did I consider putting Perez above Schwarber because he feels safer?  Yup.  Does it matter since you’re punting catchers?  Nope.  To keep with this pattern, should this next question be affirmative?  Yup.  2016 Projections:  57/22/72/.266/1

4. Brian McCann – This is a good trivia question to stump your friends with:  out of McCann’s ten full seasons in the majors, how many times has he hit at least twenty homers?  Nuh-uh, try again.  Higher still.  He hit at least twenty homers every year except for one.  Crazy, right?  Nine of ten seasons with 20 homers.  I never would’ve guessed that.  Oh, and the season he missed 20 homers, he hit 18 homers.  If he would’ve had some of Piazza’s bacne, he’d be a 40-homer hitter.  2016 Projections:  64/22/79/.236

5. Welington Castillo – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Hundley.  I call this tier, “Okay to draft, but by no means a requirement.”  You might be thinking that this feels early to be drafting a catcher.  First, Castillo will be ranked around 200 overall, so it appears early on this list, but it’s really not in the big picture.  Second, I’m saying you can draft a catcher around here, but there’s no reason to if you need another position.  Third, there’s no third.  Fourth, I’m not saying you have to draft a catcher here.  Only saying it’s possible.  Fifth, the second and fourth were kinda the same, so how is there a fifth?  Sixth, seriously, stop counting!  Seventh, okay, chillax.  Eighth, AHHHHHH, I HATE YOU, NUMBERING!!!  As for Castillo, he hit 19 homers in 110 games last year, which is only an outlier if you make a note inside Malcolm Gladwell’s Outlier book that reads, “Castillo hit 19 homers last year.”  By the way, if you find that note in twenty years, it will likely confuse the hell out of you.  I have a feeling that I’m the only that is a fan of Welington.  So, what’s everyone’s boeuf?  Welington!  By the by, Gordon Ramsey should sit in a theatre and watch himself scream at cheftestants and call the entire exercise, Shia LaBoeuf Wellington.  So, fo’reals, why the love for the boeuf?  He hit 15 homers in 61 games in Triple-A.  He hit 19 homers last year in 110 games.  He’s only going to be 29 years old.  He’ll be hitting in a home park that is nearly as good as Coors.  There’s not much to dislike other than his lack of track record.  Cool, so don’t draft him in a Track & Field league.  2016 Projections:  56/21/68/.240

6. Travis d’Arnaud – He will hit 20+ homers one of these seasons.  Only thing stopping him is his health.  I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s even got a .280 season with solid counting stats in his bat, making him the best catcher for fantasy.  The Mets have said d’Arnaud and Kevin Plawecki could split time at catcher this year, which is spoken like a person who wears socks on their hands because they’re trying to generate enough static electricity to power their Prius.  Ya know, just stupid.  I have to hope by April, d’Arnaud is the starter, but I also had to dock him a bit.  2016 Projections:  55/17/62/.264/1

7. Devin Mesoraco – The other day Mesoraco reported he felt great and expects to be ready for spring training.  He then looked in a mirror and said, “Baby Ruth,” like he was Sloth from The Goonies.  I don’t think Mesoraco is the on-pace-for-30-homers guy that he was in 2014, but he’s also not flotsam as he was last year.  Hopefully, the only thing ugly this year refers again to his face.  2016 Projections: 49/18/56/.238/2

8. Russell Martin – He’s coming off a career high in homers with 23, but he also had a career high in HR/FB% and was almost double his career average.  He also went over 50% on a ground ball rate, which was top 30 in the majors; a distinction you don’t want, if you want to hit 20 homers again.  Oh, and Russell J. Martin won’t hit 20 homers again.  So, why rank him in a tier where I’m saying draft him?  Cause he hits in the Jays lineup, a lineup that made Kevin Pillar palatable.  2016 Projections:  63/15/69/.244/5

9. Nick Hundley – Coors.  Want more?  Um, he comes from a baseball family, so he’s been spitting and scratching himself from a young age.  2016 Projections:  48/12/55/.283/3

10. Matt Wieters – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Chirinos.  I call this tier, “Draft now.  I know, very unexciting.  How about…DRAFT NOW!  More excited?”  If you don’t draft from this tier, the next tier begins the abyss, or as it’s often called, “Playing matchups with my catcher for the better part of six months.”  One thing this tier has in common is all of these guys have shown signs.  As for Wieters, Keith Law said he is the greatest catcher we will see in our lifetime.  Sure, he said that seven years ago when Wieters was just a prospect, but Keith Law is merely a prospect evaluator, so Wieters is the best of all-time.  Make like Big Lenbo, and follow that Logic.  2016 Projections:  51/17/57/.252/1

11. Derek Norris –  He hit 14 homers last year and he’s only going to be 27 years old this year.  WHAT WHAT?!  Oh, wait, 14 homers in 147 games is only good for a catcher.  2016 Projections:  60/15/64/.261/5

12. Yan Gomes – ‘Member about 2500 words ago when I said there was depth in mediocrity at catcher?  This tier is said depth in whatevs.  Gomes isn’t dust-old, and has had extended flashes before like my Cougs.  2016 Projections:  49/16/54/.257/1

13. Wilson Ramos – You from 2011-14, “If Wilson Ramos can stay healthy, he will have a long-lasting career like Jared Fogle’s advertising career.”  You in 2015, “Okay, I was an idiot the last few years.”  2016 Projections: 53/16/60/.238

14. J.T. Realmuto – On Telemundo, there’s a Spanish Shark Tank and the most famous shark there is Marco Cubano.  Marco Cubano made all his money inventing Realmuto, a video player for a Spanish-language audience.  Just thought you’d like to know some trivia.  As for Realmuto, the catcher, he has 10-homer power and 10-steal speed.  That’s the good and the bad.  2016 Projections:  51/11/54/.264/10

15. Blake Swihart – Sleepers at the catcher position seem like a good idea, and Swihart is one, but this is how catcher sleepers go:  “Hey, it’s April 6th and I’m already bored of my catcher.  I’m gonna try this Yasmani fella.”  2016 Projections:  52/9/56/.262/4

16. Robinson Chirinos – He hit 10 homers in only 78 games.  Nice!  He only played in 78 games.  Uh-oh, Chirinos!  2016 Projections:  49/15/53/.230/1

17. Jonathan Lucroy – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Vogt.  I call this tier, “Down on these guys in a non-sexual way.”  At least I’m assuming I’m down on them, nonsexually.  I’m writing this in the beginning of December, so I can only guess where others will rank guys, but for one reason or another, I’m not a big fan of the guys in this tier.  As for Lucroy, I’m his biggest non-fan.  He gives nothing but counting stats, assuming he stays healthy.  He has no power, no speed, his average is pretty bleh.  He has playing time.  Sorry if playing time doesn’t act as herbal Viagra for me.  2016 Projections:  60/9/51/.258/4

18. Miguel Montero – I ain’t got real venom for Montero, but I also don’t have much love.  He’s a 18 HR, .280 guy in Arizona during his prime.  He’s now in Chicago as he turns 33 this year.  That was your life, Miguel.  2016 Projections:  41/15/50/.241/2

19. Stephen Vogt – Vogt was great last year *covers mouth so you can barely hear the rest of the sentence*  until about July.  2016 Projections:  46/11/49/.258

20. Hank Conger – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Cervelli.  I call this tier, “In two-catcher leagues, draft one of these guys. *moves hand like my Force has just awakened or I’m wafting away a fart*.”   Here’s what I said when the Rays traded for Conger, “Finally, my morning Asian porridge of Conger will congeal into a 20-homer hitter!  Or at least he’ll be a solid 2nd catcher in two catcher leagues.  If you recall, and I know you do because you remember everything except your wedding anniversary, I liked Conger a ton last year, thinking the Astros would make him the starter due to his pitch framing ability.  They didn’t, but theRays are another club that could see the benefit of that.  Why should we care?  He hit 11 homers last year in only 201 ABs.  If someone ever gives him 450 ABs, he could sneak into the top five for catchers.  Sadly, he’s still a wild card at this point since he’s currently penciled in as a backup backstop, why don’t you back dat thang up?”  And that’s me quoting me!  2016 Projections:  38/16/45/.237 in 300 ABs

21. James McCann – “When a guy I drafted from Wieters’s tier didn’t work out, I picked up James McCann and he ended up performing better than I could’ve ever expected.  Lastly, I am so grateful for sweatpants.”  That’s your fantasy championship acceptance speech from next October.  Before we start reaching around on guys in this tier, McCann did only have 7 homers in 114 games last year, so, um, yeah.  2016 Projections:  42/10/50/.249/4

22. Yasmani Grandal – How long do we have to wait for Billy Beane to trade for Grandal to have him play 1st base?  I’m getting old here!  2016 Projections:  47/14/52/.244/1

23. Francisco Cervelli – This guy is the bomb dot gov for two-catcher leagues, where you just want an everyday catcher.  For one-catcher leagues?  Well, Cervelli — or Cerwelli, if you’re into portmanteaus — just had his best season imaginable and he only hit seven homers with one steal.  2016 Projections:  48/6/41/.272/2

24. Yadier Molina – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Murphy.  I call this tier, “Good news:  they have an everyday job.  Bad news:  they have an everyday job.”  Last year, Molina played in 136 games.  Anyone want to guess how many homers he hit? Let’s just say Hard Hittin’ Mark Whiten once hit that many in one game.  2016 Projections:  40/6/50/.261/2

25. Jason Castro – As with most of the guys in this tier, Castro has an everyday job because the team has no one else that owns a catcher’s mitt.  2016 Projections:  38/12/44/.209/1

26. Cameron Rupp – He hit nine homers last year in only 81 games.  Sadly, what goes Rupp must come down.  2016 Projections:  38/11/41/.228

27. Chris Iannetta – He started his career in Coors, then went to Anaheim, now he’s in Safeco.  Next stop, Petco then Canned Atlantic Herring Stadium in Siberia.  By the by, at Canned Atlantic Herring Stadium they chant, “CAHS rules everything around me.  Sour cream’s where I spend my money.  Ruble, ruble, y’all.”  2016 Projections: 35/10/37/.222/1

28. Carlos Perez – I have a feeling this guy might be the most underrated catcher in all of baseball this year.  Why?  Cause no one has any idea who he is.  He sounds like the name law authorities give to John Doe’s in Latin America.  *Detective moves sheet over a corpse in the morgue*  “Damn, another Carlos Perez.  Third one this week.  Okay, who wants to go get some chimichangas and discuss the case?”  2016 Projections:  40/6/42/.240/2

29. John Ryan Murphy – Keep an eye on the Twins starting catcher slot in the spring because Murphy and Kurt Suzuki will likely battle it out, which is like watching salmonella battle listeria on a petri dish.  2016 Projections:  32/5/34/.247/2

30. A.J. Pierzynski – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the end of the list.  I call this tier, “Platoony tunes.”  None of these guys are everyday catchers.  As for A.J. Pierzynski, definitely move him up if you play in a pun league where he also counts as A.J. Pollock.  2016 Projections:  32/8/38/.266

31. Alex Avila – Playing on the White Sox this year will only help Avila like it helped Tyler Flowers, Avisail Garcia, Micah Johnson, Adam LaRoche…Okay, so it helped no one. 2016 Projections:  35/8/38/.203/1

32. Dioner Navarro – True Story Alert!  There’s a parasite with blonde hair inside Navarro’s gut and he hosts, Dioner, Drive-Ins and Dives.  2016 Projections:  25/6/31/.242

33. Josh Phegley – Yes or no:  There’s no more fey name than Josh Phegley?  2016 Projections:  23/7/30/.240

34. Austin Romine – Can we never call a catcher a top prospect again?  “Amen!”  That’s Jesus Montero, who works as a pastor during the offseason.  2016 Projections:  20/5/24/.228/3

35. Andrew Susac – Hey, at least I didn’t rank Max Stassi, Hitler’s favorite 2nd catcher.   Yes, Susac is behind Posey.  Yes, Susac sounds like a made-up word sung by Missy Elliot.  No, I don’t think Posey gets hurt.  Belt can’t seem to stay healthy though, and maybe Posey does get hurt.  I’m not saying you draft Susac as your first catcher.  Not even really as a 2nd catcher unless you’ve really punted, but in crazy deep leagues, Susac isn’t a terrible flyer as a guy that could work his way into playing time and has 15-homer power.  2016 Projections:  18/7/27/.247

   
  1. Al koholic says:
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    Damn the position looks worse than normal

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Al koholic: I disagree. There are a lot of “what are they gonna do guys” or it could just be catcher day and I’m feeling contrary.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Al koholic: Kinda feels about the same as past years… But it’s more obvious weak up top than past years….

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: it’s very flat chested with baggy pants. There might be some ass under there or there might not

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sounds like you’re describing a chola

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: busted! I’m a sucker for a hyna who can fight.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Hyna? What’s that? Some street slang?

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: urban dic it

                • say it with me now, boDEga says:
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                  @J-FOH: or listen to any sublime song.

    • SwaggerJackers says:
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      @Al koholic: Agreed. This was a painful read after the excitement of the top 10 and top 20 posts from earlier this week. Nick Hundley and his projected 12 homers in a top 10 list? I was done after that.

  2. Endershadow says:
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    Grandal and Lucroy Debbie downer over here

  3. Robert says:
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    As a lifelong Cubs fan there is a ton of hype on Schwarber. I like him, but realistically he struggles vs lefties and his contact rate is pretty bad. Yes his power is immense and I also think a lot of people are going to remember his long post season hrs, and he will be over drafted. I could see drafting him in round 6 at the earliest but he’s going top 40 that seems absurd. So catcher like always is a pass, the one guy you did mention is Wellington Castillo, (ex Cub) he is a very talented guy I never thought Montero was much of an upgrade. Castillo has sneaky power and could hit 22-25 hrs. I plan on getting him in many leagues. You should be able to draft him after the 9th or 10 th catcher in most leagues. Great job as always.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Robert: Thanks! You should realistic about Schwarber for a Cubs fan

  4. Nittanychris says:
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    Any chance Swihart has a slight bump in power and hits for a decent avg? What do you think? If he hits 14 HRs and bats 270 something he’s a top ten guy amongst all this sludge, right?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Nittanychris: Yeah, and not really ownable for the whole season in 12 team leagues

  5. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Great article, man! I thought it was a top 20 catcher article (judging solely by THE title), so I stopped reading after 20. Nah, just razzing you. I read everything right to the end even though I know I probably will never join a 2-catcher league. Never say never, hah? At least I’ll be fully equipped in the event I do join a 2-catcher league.

    a. I’ll take your salmonella vs. listeria comparison and double it with…
    salmonella vs. shigella (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigella). Incidentally, shigella is the LEAD cause of diarrhea worldwide…smoke that in your pipe and eat it! Also am a proud former shigella patient. Only humans and gorillas get it, and I get stuck with it.

    b. Of all the catchers after Wellington, I like Carlos Perez and Susac the most. Something about watching Susac hit gives me a boner. If he gets the opportunity to do some damage like you alluded to, he could be useful. Oh and his manager likes him too, so that’s always a plus plus.

    c. In a 10-team H2H mixed points league, where do you draft a Catcher? Does it depend on scarcity? In a shallow league I’m not sure if I want anyone below Wellington Castillo? You?

    d. How come some of the players you write about (like D’Arnaud and Castillo, for two) don’t have the famous blue hyperlink underneath their names? D’Arnaud had to suffer that injustice all year last year, just not right.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Old School Brother says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Glad you’re free of Shigella Ante! Nasty stuff, that Shigella is

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Old School Brother: Thanks, bro. I lost 22 pounds in a very short time in 2009 because of shigella. Shigella, salmonella’s ugly African sister.

        Good luck to your Rangers this year. If Yu and Dutch come back strong this year, this could be a very good year for them.

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Old School Brother says:
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          @Ante GALIC: Fingers crossed! I got high hopes. Still have a sour taste in my mouth from how ALDS game 5 ended

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Thanks! A. Yikes B. Susac will be giving lots if Posey gets hurt C. Around 200 overall D. Welington did the first two times I mentioned him (two is the limit), d’Arnaud cause the site struggles with the apostrophe in his name

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: Hey, what do ya know? You’re right about Welington! On D’Arnaud, blame it on French Canadians. That’s what we do in Canada when things go slightly sideways!

        Thinking about making a contribution this year, less innocuous than last year’s Norm MacDonald shizz. Like CSI Miami punchlines before they queue the music at the start of the show. It lasted 10 seasons (232 episodes) so would have to find 150 of the 232 to make it through an entire 6-month season.

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          When in doubt, it’s the French Canadians’ fault…Always with them! Love the CSI idea!

          • Ante GALIC says:
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            @Grey: Thanks, I’ll give you a taste of what it would look like.

            Frank Tripp: ‘It’s not looking too good, Horatio.’
            Horatio: ‘On the contrary, there’s a chance that this girl is alive, and we (queue the sunglasses) are going to find her.’

            Cheers,
            Ante

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              HA! Love it

              • Ante GALIC says:
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                @Grey: Thanks, man! Done.

                Cheers,
                Ante

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Thank you!

  6. Dodger Rabbit says:
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    Yuck. Only thing good about the catcher post is Grey’s humor. Previous rankings had my favorite tier name: “Damn, Ninja… you really punted!”

  7. Zeus says:
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    The Canned Herring Stadium bit was great by the way. I can see a bounce back from one of the lower seeded guys but name recognition will have them go too high for me

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Zeus: Thanks!

  8. Fungazi says:
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    Catcher rankings on a Wednesday. Womp womp.

    • JakeLamburglar says:
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      @Fungazi: Catcher is the non-holiday Monday of positional ranking lists.

  9. First Lady of the Nation says:
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    Love it… Always the funniest… It’s like the New York Times review of a Guy Fieri “restaurant”… ITS MANHATTAN you dicks, go anywhere else…

  10. Bunt Holes says:
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    Spit up my coffee at “Baby Ruth”. Well done.

  11. The Captain says:
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    I’m surprised you are not “giddy-er” on Schwarber. I subscribe to the “don’t-pay-for-catchers” theory, but the allure on Schwarber is that he is a starting LF who qualifies at C. Assuming Montero doesn’t tear his ACL in spring training (yikes—I hope I didn’t just jinx that), Schwarber is penciled in as the starting LF. Big time power hitter with full-time at bats (not catcher “full time” at bats) and not taking the beating that a catcher takes every day? Yes please.

    Now the stats. Yes, that downward trend in batting average looks scary, but it’s not the full story. That .221 August also came with a 26/9/24 line with a .537 slugging %. Yes, his September was abysmal—but he was dealing with a pretty serious rib injury that would have cost most players the DL. However, we all know he rebounded in the playoffs: .333/.419/.889 slash with 5 HR in 9 total games. As far as his strikeout, walk, and contact rates: who was worse across the board on those numbers? Kris Bryant.

    Does all that mean the league won’t figure him out this year starting in April? No. But somehow I think this guy is underrated (compared to other top young guys like Bryant, Correa, Seager, etc.) and could put up the same or better numbers than Bryant at a cheaper pricetag. I might be one of those people who got snagged in the crosshairs…Help!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Captain: I don’t think the upside is immense enough (25 HRs, .250) to justify the reach

      • ES says:
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        @Grey: I think you’re low on Schwarber. Batted ball profile looks comparable to JDM, who hit .282 last year. Hard hit % could sustain a BABIP closer to the .350ish he posted in the minors.

        Definitely risk there, but I tend to agree with @The Captain ‘s line of thinking

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gotcha

  12. Old School Brother says:
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    You know how some people have a zit popping fetish? 90s Piazza’s back must be their Mecca

  13. Ralph Lifshitz

    Ralph Lifshitz says:
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    The top 20 catchers is sort of like when your favorite TV show has a setup episode. Not a lot happens but it’s necessary to get onto the rest of the season. So to summarize top 20 catchers is one of the Tony dream episodes from the Sopranos.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: So, you’re saying it’s like the 2nd episode of Scandal to the last?

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Grey: Shhhhh we keep our Scandal talks offline!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          My bad!

  14. Clint says:
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    So, is it safe to say that if you’re going to punt catcher (and I plan to as I have the last 3 years or so), the best strategy is merely to target a guy that plays everyday in a hitter’s park & hope for the best until a waiver wire darling appears?

  15. Lville Jim says:
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    Guy traded me Arrenado for Mauer a few years ago in my dynasty league. I still occasionally pleasure myself while thinking about that deal.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Lville Jim: That guy shouldn’t be allowed to play fantasy

      • @Grey: He writes for rotoworld…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Mike Piazza?

          • @Grey: Diners, Drive ins, and Bi’s…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha… Today, we’re in the kitchen with Mike Piazza and Queen Latifah and Kevin Spacey…

  16. Turd Ferguson says:
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    Hello Grey,

    I was hoping to get your thoughts on a 2 catcher AL only league. You can keep 12 players a year. Surprise, suprise: I never save Catchers. Do you think it’s smart to handcuff catchers like someone might in fantasy football. So say you draft Weiters then you go after Caleb Joseph as well? That way you at least get ABs each day from one of them.

    Thanks for any advice, so happy baseball season is back…or at least the rankings.
    Turd

    • Shill Team 6 says:
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      @Turd Ferguson: You’ll get more ABs having 2 starters.

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: Ok, proven. I wasn’t aware. Either I have blinders on, or, more likely….I just don’t care anymore who did or didn’t take PED’s back then. Time heals all wounds.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I don’t care Piazza was let into the HOF but they should just let everyone at this point

          • Cram It says:
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            @Grey: Agreed. I think Bagwell has been held out because of PED suspicion/Andro admission, a la Piazza. Nonsensical I says.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I says, let all of them in…Even Bonds… Like anyone can say 100% Griffey was PEDs free

              • I don't want to brag, but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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                @Grey: even if we through out everything with bonds since he obv looked like he was on shit (giant neck, round 2000), his career earlier than that was HOF worthy.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, exactly

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cram It: And if he admitted to that, imagine what he’s not admitting too… Andy Petitite took PEDs, he never got buff

  17. SheriffMcRawDawg says:
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    good stuff. waited on catcher last year and ended up with Vogt and Russell, which worked out.

    so we should call matt wieters ‘young jesus’?!

    also reposting here: is this one a no brainer? owner just offered this deal: my first round pick (2nd overall) and cole hamels (4th round keeper) for his 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks…

    my first pick would be giancarlo or donaldson. not sure which exact # picks I’d be getting, but should I go for it?

    12 team roto (MI, CI, 5 OF), keep 8, here are mine for reference:

    4 – Cole Hamels
    6 – Nelson Cruz
    10 – Dallas Keuchel
    17 – Taijuan Walker
    18 – Chris Davis
    19 – Joey Gallo
    21 – Lorenzo Cain
    25 – Jeurys Familia

    thoughts?!

      • SheriffMcRawDawg says:
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        @Grey: I mean I do too – a shot at Giancarlo with the fences coming in 11 ft! BUT isn’t getting 4 early round picks back almost too good to pass up? this is a keeper, where most players are kept in the latter rounds…

        he also has Springer in the 16th – would you do this trade: my 1st rd pick + hamels in the 4th, for his 3rd, 4th, 5th rders and Springer in the 16th?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d take Springer there, I guess, but have no idea what you’re getting with say a 3rd round pick

          • SheriffMcRawDawg says:
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            @Grey: this is true. last year the 3rd round was:
            Fielder
            Dickerson
            Kinsler
            Carlos Santana
            Reyes
            Longoria
            Kemp
            Carter (wow)
            Samardzija
            a keeper
            Heyward
            Jay Bruce

            backed off the ledge a little bit; liking the idea of Giancarlo or Donaldson

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, better to take the sure thing, or surer at least

  18. Boomer19 says:
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    I punted catcher last year and ended up with Hundley and Cervelli. I’d be happy enough again with those two. Not much for stats but don’t kill average. Not much to say about catchers except looking forward to you 1B list tomorrow. Cheers.

  19. james says:
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    In the minor league section for a dynasty draft… kept 10 prospects, draft 5 (so 15 each team 12 teams). When should I be looking at a C prospect. into 3dround of 5 (so really 13 rounds since we keep 10), and sanchez is the only C gone…. are the next few reasonable targets now,a Chance Sisco in the last round?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @james: Last round

  20. JoeG414 says:
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    M.Franco or R.Odor , or coin flip. 6×6 roto.

  21. CoreyII says:
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    $4 Hundley worth keeping as a #1 C in a 2 C NL-Only league ($260 budget)? Over someone like $18 Rendon or $8 Kang or $6 Wacha?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah, gotta toss back Hundley

  22. J-FOH says:
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    Got a new mode and tank. It’s amaaaaaaaaze balls

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      By who?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I posted a pic last night. I’ll do it again when I get back from the gym

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Of you? Are you sweaty in it?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I can’t talk, last I checked I had 626 selfies in my phone and 35 regular pics…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Wow, that looks like next level shizz… I need that! You get it online? How much?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: homie discount, In a store it will be around a hundred and online Im not sure, they have an old model and a new one, I got the new

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      $100 is nothing… Speaking of which, all vape stuff is so cheap… They could jack up the prices nearly double and it would still be reasonable

                    • goodfold2 says:
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                      @J-FOH: that’s wonderful, as lots of stuff that’s been out for a while is 80. what is the name of that, such that i can ask for it in stores, or have them order it?

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Got an amazing new juice too, great clean taste. Called Lava Flow by Naked 100. They do 60ml for 25 bucks too

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      60 ML, damn…I’d have that for about 3 years… That name means nothing to me, what’s it taste like

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ugh, I’m under 18, damn

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Hey, 21 Jump Street, you only look like you are under 18….when you shave.

                      Here is a cut and paste description.

                      Transport your taste buds with Lava Flow, a flavor profile that fuses sweet and rich strawberries with two island staples, a refreshing Coconut and the sugary tang of Pineapple. Layered to perfection, the end result is a bright, fresh, sweet, and tangy concoction that never fails to satisfy.

                      or this description…

                      Lava Flow e liquid provides an escape to that tropical island on your screens background within two puffs. This delicious tropical flavor combination of fresh strawberries, with coconut, and pineapple intoxicate the senses and seduce the taste buds. Naked 100 E-Liquid is not responsible for any limbo dancing that ensues, or the desire to run your toes through sand.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Strawberries, nice… I just got a blueberry donut and Lucky Charms from vape kitchen, they’re solid

                    • goodfold2 says:
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                      @J-FOH: nice, thanks. i looked up that battery, i’m pretty sure i already have one like that from an older unit but i’ll check at local (for me) vape stores. It’s the battery that from that site shows to be between 6-11 bucks or so.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      The same people that made that amazing blueberry Greek yogurt I gave you made that flavor.

  23. Jon says:
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    Not a catcher question, but would you deal Ian Desmond for Ken Giles or Wade Davis in a dynasty where I’m set at MI but need pitching?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure, Davis

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Jon: either.

  24. A-Ram Baller says:
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    I find it hard to believe that there are 7 better first basemen with better numbers than Posey. Especially in H2H leagues where a guy who gets double digit hits every week is a plus.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Stats don’t lie

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Though obviously I wasn’t talking about H2H with hits

      • A-Ram Baller says:
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        @Grey: you sorta lied though. You had Posey as your #7 first baseman in your 2015 recaps and Pujols was #11. Cust sayin.

  25. JakeLamburglar says:
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    The next three weeks of Razzball posts are the gottdamn chocolate Advent calendar of fantasy baseball content. Thanks Grey!

    10-team H2H keeper league (w/ OPS). I know from the podcast that you love some Heyward this year but do you love him enough to give up a 4th round pick for him? I could see this. If you look at his stats, 2015’s GB rate is the aberration. His contact % has gone up four straight seasons and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a 20-20 season with 95+ runs. That seems like an awfully tasty 4th rounder.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, No problem… Yeah, I’d take him as a 4th rounder, but that’s the edge

  26. Alex says:
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    Hey grey

    Let’s say I hypothetically accepted the rizzo trade I mentioned yesterday (rizzo and Arrieta and jup, whom I don’t plan on keeping, for abreu, schwarber and Frazier) if I can then turn around and flip Arrieta and Chris Davis for machado, I have to do? right!? My five keepers will be :

    stanton first round
    Machado 5th
    Rizzo 10th
    Klubber 14th
    Correa 22nd

    P. S the most we can keep is five as long as one is a pitcher which is why I have klubber listed.

    Sure I would be way overpaying for both Rizzo and machado but that’s the right move. Right?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  27. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Grey

    He turned down my offer and countered with this:

    I give up: Posey, Conforto, Zimmer and Severino
    I get: j Upton, longoria Lackey and Kendrys Morales

    When I told him I don’t need a fifth first basemen and the deal doesn’t really help me he said I was a special kind of stupid.

    Was I right to decline the deal and what the hell does special kind of stupid even mean

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds fair

    • Let us now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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      @Scott Kimmel: what do you think it means? i wouldn’t trade for that many declining/old players at the same time. upton is best player in it though. but conforto could quickly make up some of that ground this year, severino likely becomes 3rd or 4th best player in it in 2 years.

  28. My favorite Piazza story goes a little something like this…he decided to learn karate over the winter, like his kin, Daniel…he practices his palm strikes, he kicks like a bird, he waxes his windows…Johnny is gonna get his when he sees him again…so,Johnny throws a fastball at his eyeball and a broken bat at him, whilst he runs to first…he finally has the chance to use his “moves” …and what does he do? Waits for the old ump to step in front of him, and eeks out a whiny “what the heeeeeeeeeck man? “

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Then lets Roger Clemens’s wife bodypress him

  29. Teddy Heater says:
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    BFF! I have to hand it to you, you sexed up the catcher position with this post. Writing about catchers is like fostering a half hairless mohawked rat dog that refuses to use the doggy door on a consistent basis, HA! BTW I love guys that draft 2 catchers in case one gets hurt! More pitchers for me!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Need to see pics or it doesn’t count… Cougs says Sakura looks great, she’s down

      • Teddy Heater says:
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        @Grey: Coo, next Saturday work?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I need to run it by her

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          1/30 @ 7 works…

          • Teddy Heater says:
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            @Grey: Done and Done!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              We should each bring our Santoku knives and have a sushi challenge!

              • Teddy Heater says:
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                @Grey: I just ordered my belt Loop utility knife sheath so I can quick draw anytime you want to throw down.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I’m going to wear my chef’s jacket and have the knife tucked into my upper sleeve area

                  • Teddy Heater says:
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                    @Grey: The spoon is getting the boot. Have you heard anything on Bloodline from Netflix?

  30. El Boss says:
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    The fact that I had to read about 35 of these flickers makes me hate catchers even more, can we just eliminate the position for fantasy baseball.

    • El Boss says:
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      @El Boss: FUCKERS!!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  31. Matty Ballgame says:
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    Anyone out there ever play a season and just not started a catcher at all? Asking for a friend.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Have your friend ask! Kidding, no I haven’t

    • Teddy Heater says:
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      @Matty Ballgame: I do it in H2H all the time! I wouldn’t do it in Roto because that’s an empty slot that you’re losing valuable playing time and it may hurt you in avg but you need those counting stats.

    • Tigres says:
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      I punted catcher all of last September. And had Vogt in for July and August, which sure felt like a punt.

    • And Now the Jon Lovitz Dancers! says:
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      @Matty Ballgame: i’m in a pts league where 2/5 of the top 5 teams do it all the time. keep in mind that isn’t a standard league, it’s a very pitcher heavy pts league. the idea of those 2 owners is that a decent SP is worth more than a starting C, and that roster spot is filled by 1 extra SP. I just stream (we get i think 8 moves a week) really bad SP daily (there’s also no negative pts for horrible starts). that team has posy and schwarber, took it over midseason, it’s only decent keeper (keep 4) at the time was posey, i added carrasco, correa, schwarber, but due to K’s i might be better off dropping schwarber (negative pts for K’s). had to drop c.davis from that team.

      • And Now the Jon Lovitz Dancers! says:
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        @And Now the Jon Lovitz Dancers!: clearly it wasn’t midseason, it was like start of may. i did have to hold correa in a bench spot for like over 3 weeks though.

  32. JW says:
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    I love your rankings because they’re bold and justified for the most part. But last year you weren’t buying into the Mookie madness and now he’s a top 20 player. This year it’s Schwarber. How many more scoreboards does the kid need to hit in pressure packed post season games for you to buy in?!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  33. goodfold2 says:
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    Do you believe these guys are likely to stay in these roles? (best thing i can do right now is go off current depth charts) C = closer, S1 = set up first man in line, S2 = set up 2, 2nd man in line. going over available guys to bid on in FA (broken apart into 4 nearly equal sized groups, each nearly a week long starting Jan 31st). I’ll probably hope to get 2 of this list (and if not i’ll get lesser middle relief types for cheaper, saving money for 2 SP spots and some bench bats, maybe werth for homers but he might cost too much, plus i’m already paying his bitch-ass 6 mil not to be on my team right now)
    COL motte (closer),
    b.logan (set 2)
    LAD – hatcher (set 1)
    yimi (set 2)
    SD – chuck newtown (set2). guessing i should just avoid this guy, doubt he repeats that crazy better than he is ERA again
    CIN – b.wood (set 2). this guy’s been out of MLB for a bit.
    MIL – jeffress (set 2)
    ATL – grilli (C)
    NYM – reed (set 1)
    robles (set 2)
    PHI – d.hernandez (C)
    l.garcia (set 1)
    hinojosa (set 2)
    HOU – w.harris (set 2)
    LAA – salas (set 2)
    OAK – r.madson (set 1)
    – hendriks (set 2)
    SEA – cishek (C)
    CLE – mcallister (set 2)
    DET – lowe (set 1)
    BOS – uehera (set 1)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Impossible to say at this point, I’d go by depth charts too at rosterresource…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: any of those you like more on skills than roles at this point (when i get home late Sat Shandler’s book will be waiting for me, and his is very good at quantifying these). chuck newtown forced out i’m sure with rodney at SD now. although how he’s drummed up this much interest from 2 separate teams in just a few months is beyond me. i’m thinking hernandez (if healthy), hatcher, robles and hendriks best values, maybe salas since he was so good last year too.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hernandez, Hatcher, Madson, Jeffress, Yimi

  34. Mike says:
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    14 team keeper league
    Start 3 outfielders

    Sano $7 or Seager $7. I’m leaning Seager because outfield is deeper.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ugh, tough call… I’d likely go Sano

  35. Jake Rivers says:
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    No love for my boy Curt Casselli anywhere on here?!?! He should have the starting job, hit a bomb in almost every 10 mlb ab’s last year, is in his 27th year of life which used to be a big deal in this sport of fantasy baseball. Grey, what are your wildest dreams of Curt’s possible potential? & then what are your realist views of his 2016 #’s?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He could hit .210 and 15 HRs if he is the starter… Hoping he’s not

  36. Jon says:
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    I’m looking for pitching. Do you like dealing Tulo for Lester?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s fair

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Jon: depends on need and what the rest of your roster looks like and what kind of leauge it is and how many teams. I would say no but it depends

      • the great knoche says:
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        @J-FOH: Think Tulo is going to score lots of runs at top of that lineup. RBIs will be down, but I can see the BA rebounding….of course he will likely only play 96 games or so.

  37. Joe Shmoe says:
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    Evening Mr. Grey,
    Is Profar worth a spot on a dynasty team? They say he is about to come back this spring. Was he a must own prospect before he got injured, then got injured again, then got injured again….Or is he MI waiver fodder?

    Appreciate the time…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Depends on league size

  38. MB says:
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    Hello Greg, thanks in advance.

    Is Wong and Wieters enough in return for Chris Archer in a dynasty league?

    Appreciate the help

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not enough

      • MB says:
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        @Grey: Sorry for the typo Grey! Thanks

  39. Hawk says:
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    On the upside, at least the Catcher article is done. Hot garbage indeed.

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