What was I thinking when I thought this would be a fun post? I came into this wanting to be Grey’s opposite for S’s and G’s, but that ship sailed south really fast. If you are disappointed that I bailed on that idea, then go to his comments any day and you can view my contrarian ways as I try to keep him honest and keep myself being…well, me being good ole me. When Rudy told me he would make me a table doing a side-by-side with dollar values, I was a little worried about how that would be accepted by the Grey-heads. Then I thought to myself, who doesn’t like money? Well maybe Monty Brewster, who hated money for 30 days, but I would too with what he had to do in that classic 80’s baseball flick. On a hunch, I went into the archives to find that Rudy wrote this post last year and realized I got duped into doing it for 2015. Well played señor Rudolfo…well played indeed.

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This season as I have prepped for drafts, I’ve been checking my work against what both Grey and Rudy have so generously prepared for us. Thanks you two for all the hard work you put in to help us each and every year! You all need to go buy Grey a daiquiri right now. No really, go do it, I can wait. Now before I move on, I have one last question, if we buy Grey a daiquiri, what do we buy Rudy? Seriously, is there a buy Rudy a beer button I’ve never seen before? Is he a non-drinker and I have to send over a cup of black coffee? Dammit, I got questions and I want answers! What does Rudy like to sip on while he works his magic? My bet is a nice Hibiscus Tea with a little honey and a shot of Cazadores tequila dropped in it like a boilermaker.

The chart below gives us a side-by-side look with the ability to sort by rank, position, team, as well as a Grey minus Rudy calculation. Before I get to the list, lets take a look at some players that have at least a 10 dollar difference between them. The first number will be Grey’s, the second will be Rudy’s,  and the third will be the difference. The words will be mine.

Justin Upton (29.0 – 16.4 = 12.6) – Talk about a difference of opinion here. Basically Grey has no problem with the move to San Diego and has him as his 7th ranked outfielder. Rudy would rather have him do that on someone else’s team and has him as his 24th ranked outfielder. Personally, I think he falls somewhere in between and ends up as the 12th-ish best outfielder for the season. Sorry Jay.

Nolan Arenado (27.0 – 16.2 = 10.8) – When I saw this, I thought the site was going to crash and a vortex would suck me into middle earth. Rudy has him just below my ADP steal Charlie Blackmon ($16.4) and we all know how Grey feels about Nolan. Sky is another lover of Arenado too, and I am feeling Nolan like a teenager who wants to feel his friends hot mom. Grey likes to be bold for who is next and Rudy is hanging out with Bill O’Reilly with his conservative rankings here.

Ian Desmond (29.0 – 17.3 = 11.7) – This one screams positional scarcity to me. For those that read Rudy’s post where he threw scarcity out the car window like an old cheeseburger wrapper, know that his rankings this year are fueled by Meritocracy Theory – Do no position adjustments. Looking over Grey’s top-30 shows us that 26th ranked Michael Brantley (87/17/92/19/.301) is better for your team than 16th ranked Ian Desmond (75/21/87/22/.251) as long as you use Rudy’s 2015 theory.

Tyson Ross (20.0 – 7.6 = 12.4) – Okay, this one is too easy to pick on. In every draft I have been in, no one is agreeing with Grey on Ross. Steamer has him at 166 innings so that comparison is useless. Rudy values pitching more than Grey except on Ross…and a few others. He has him at 39, Grey at 14, and I have him on someone else’s team for 2015.

Mat Latos (16.0 + 1.2 = 17.2) – WTF is with my math problems? Grey kinda sorta likes Latos in a “take a flyer on a guy that should be a deal on draft day” way because “Latos is too young (27) to be breaking down, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt”, and that’s me quoting Grey. I’m guessing he is banking on Dallas Latos the blogger and motivational speaker factor that no one else is seeing. Rudy is zipping up the body bag and moving on to older pastures with guys like Brandon McCarthy (30th), John Lackey (26th) and Lance Lynn (29th).

Evan Gattis (7.0 – 18.7 =  -11.7) – We all know Grey hates drafting catchers early but Rudy just told us to take that theory and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Numbers are numbers wherever they may come from. Catchers have been going at a massive discount in the few drafts I’ve been in this year and I’m leaning Rudy on this one. In Gattis we get the rare chance to draft a catcher that will be playing the outfield and DH’ing in a better home park than last year. What’s not to like! Can I get a 600 at bats? I love you Albright, but for the love of god, bump up Gattis in your ranks. 183? Oh FFS, c’mon!

Kolten Wong (18.0 – 6.8 = 11.2) – Grey hearts Wong and Rudy is just okay with Wong. I’m all in with Grey here. I like me some nice young hot Wong to make everything better for 2015. With all the small-to-large question marks with the 2nd basemen going ahead of Wong in this years draft, why not live a little and buy yourself some Wong? Sometimes you have to throw your sack on the table and let the draft room know you want a player and that you DGAF. Wong is that guy. Own him, hold him, but not too much, you’ll go blind. Rudy has him below the the fantasy snoozer Daniel Murphy Bed, and that’s just wong…wrong.

There are many other names I could have gone over here, Clayton Kershaw (-10.4 difference), Anthony Rendon (9.1), Adam Jones (8.5), Max Scherzer (-9.2), Danny Santana (10), Jedd Gyorko (14.6), and Melky Cabrera to name a few. But what fun would that be? Please explore the list and share your thoughts in the comments. My best advice is to use them both, one to let you fly and the other to keep you grounded. I’m going to be drafting one of my RCL’s by making alternating picks between the two ranks for funnzies. You don’t have to pick a side, unless you want to. My choice is…

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Note: Filters and sorting in the table below apply to the output!

# Name Team Pos Grey $ Rudy $ Grey Minus Rudy $)
Kyle Lewis SEA OF 22 1.4 20.6
Hanser Alberto KC 2B 3 -15.1 18.1
Andrew Vaughn CHW 1B 5 -9.0 14.0
Joey Wendle TB 2B/SS/ 3B 2 -11.8 13.8
Jazz Chisholm MIA 2B/SS 1 -12.1 13.1
Jonathan Villar NYM 2B/SS 1 -11.5 12.5
Matt Olson OAK 1B 23 12.1 10.9
J.D. Davis NYM 3B/OF 8 -2.7 10.7
Garrett Hampson COL 2B/OF 6 -4.5 10.5
Cavan Biggio TOR 2B/3B/ OF 16 5.9 10.1
Nolan Arenado STL 3B 25 15.0 10.0
Yoan Moncada CHW 3B 21 11.0 10.0
Zach Plesac CLE SP 13 3.1 9.9
Jorge Alfaro MIA C 1 -8.3 9.3
Dansby Swanson ATL SS 19 9.8 9.2
Dylan Moore SEA 2B/OF 14 5.0 9.0
Zac Gallen ARI SP 14 5.1 8.9
Sandy Alcantara MIA SP 8 -0.5 8.5
Brandon Lowe TB 2B/OF 16 7.5 8.5
Ryan Yarbrough TB SP 5 -3.4 8.4
MacKenzie Gore SD SP 2 -6.4 8.4
Julio Urias LAD SP 12 4.0 8.0
Leody Taveras TEX OF 8 0.1 7.9
Jarred Kelenic SEA OF 5 -2.8 7.8
Noah Syndergaard NYM SP 1 -6.7 7.7
Shohei Ohtani LAA SP 2 -5.6 7.6
Hunter Dozier KC 1B/OF 6 -1.5 7.5
James McCann NYM C 6 -1.4 7.4
Alex Kirilloff MIN OF 1 -6.4 7.4
Franchy Cordero BOS OF 2 -5.2 7.2
Dane Dunning TEX SP 3 -4.2 7.2
Dominic Smith NYM 1B/OF 10 2.8 7.2
Avisail Garcia MIL OF 1 -6.1 7.1
Sixto Sanchez MIA SP 9 2.0 7.0
Luke Weaver ARI SP 3 -3.9 6.9
Tommy La Stella SF 1B/2B 3 -3.8 6.8
Richard Rodriguez PIT RP 11 4.2 6.8
Mike Yastrzemski SF OF 9 2.3 6.7
Ty France SEA 2B 2 -4.5 6.5
Austin Nola SD C 2 -4.4 6.4
Matt Chapman OAK 3B 17 10.6 6.4
Jake Cronenworth SD 1B/2B/SS 6 -0.4 6.4
Ian Anderson ATL SP 10 3.8 6.2
John Means BAL SP 8 1.8 6.2
Justus Sheffield SEA SP 1 -5.2 6.2
Mike Soroka ATL SP 6 -0.2 6.2
Tyler O’Neill STL OF 1 -5.1 6.1
Marco Gonzales SEA SP 7 0.9 6.1
Austin Hays BAL OF 5 -1.1 6.1
Caleb Smith ARI SP 2 -4.0 6.0
Elieser Hernandez MIA SP 5 -0.9 5.9
Hyun-Jin Ryu TOR SP 18 12.1 5.9
Jurickson Profar SD 2B/OF 1 -4.8 5.8
Charlie Blackmon COL OF 22 16.4 5.6
Aaron Civale CLE SP 6 0.5 5.5
Willy Adames TB SS 4 -1.5 5.5
Carson Kelly ARI C 3 -2.4 5.4
Michael Conforto NYM OF 22 16.6 5.4
Trent Grisham SD OF 17 11.7 5.3
Dylan Bundy LAA SP 13 7.9 5.1
Cristian Javier HOU SP 4 -1.1 5.1
Adbert Alzolay CHC SP 2 -3.1 5.1
Eduardo Escobar ARI 3B 8 2.9 5.1
Ramon Laureano OAK OF 13 7.9 5.1
Francisco Lindor NYM SS 34 28.9 5.1
Jose Abreu CHW 1B 26 20.9 5.1
David Price LAD SP 6 1.1 4.9
Jeimer Candelario DET 1B/3B 5 0.3 4.7
Pete Alonso NYM 1B 24 19.4 4.6
Mitch Keller PIT SP 1 -3.5 4.5
Kyle Crick PIT RP 1 -3.4 4.4
Max Fried ATL SP 15 10.7 4.3
Tim Anderson CHW SS 26 21.7 4.3
Bo Bichette TOR SS 32 27.8 4.2
Jesus Luzardo OAK SP 13 8.8 4.2
Jesus Aguilar MIA 1B 4 -0.2 4.2
Lucas Giolito CHW SP 24 19.9 4.1
Gio Urshela NYY 3B 9 5.1 3.9
Chris Bassitt OAK SP 8 4.2 3.8
Dallas Keuchel CHW SP 4 0.3 3.7
Yordan Alvarez HOU DH 22 18.4 3.6
Rowdy Tellez TOR 1B 5 1.4 3.6
Javier Baez CHC SS 20 16.4 3.6
Pablo Lopez MIA SP 11 7.5 3.5
Tyler Mahle CIN SP 7 3.7 3.3
Bobby Dalbec BOS 1B 5 1.7 3.3
Tommy Edman STL 2B/SS/ 3B/OF 11 7.7 3.3
Nate Pearson TOR SP 2 -1.3 3.3
Manuel Margot TB OF 3 -0.3 3.3
Bryan Garcia DET RP 1 -2.3 3.3
Teoscar Hernandez TOR OF 12 8.8 3.2
Nick Castellanos CIN OF 19 15.8 3.2
Aaron Nola PHI SP 24 20.8 3.2
Triston McKenzie CLE SP 2 -1.1 3.1
Austin Meadows TB OF 15 11.9 3.1
Eric Hosmer SD 1B 13 9.9 3.1
Evan White SEA 1B 4 1.0 3.0
Sam Hilliard COL OF 2 -1.0 3.0
Isiah Kiner-Falefa TEX SS/3B 6 3.0 3.0
Keston Hiura MIL 2B 18 15.2 2.8
Brandon Nimmo NYM OF 3 0.2 2.8
Christian Walker ARI 1B 7 4.2 2.8
Zach Eflin PHI SP 7 4.3 2.7
Wil Myers SD OF 12 9.3 2.7
Manny Machado SD 3B 30 27.3 2.7
Tony Gonsolin LAD SP 2 -0.7 2.7
Enrique Hernandez BOS 2B/OF 1 -1.7 2.7
Brady Singer KC SP 3 0.3 2.7
Sonny Gray CIN SP 15 12.4 2.6
Yasmani Grandal CHW C 10 7.4 2.6
James Karinchak CLE RP 11 8.4 2.6
Clint Frazier NYY OF 8 5.4 2.6
Dustin May LAD SP 3 0.5 2.5
Max Muncy LAD 1B/2B/ 3B 15 12.5 2.5
Jose Urquidy HOU SP 4 1.5 2.5
Kenta Maeda MIN SP 16 13.5 2.5
Jack Flaherty STL SP 24 21.5 2.5
Tyler Glasnow TB SP 15 12.6 2.4
Jameson Taillon NYY SP 2 -0.4 2.4
Jorge Soler KC OF 9 6.6 2.4
Paul DeJong STL SS 9 6.7 2.3
Bryce Harper PHI OF 30 27.8 2.2
Ryan McMahon COL 1B/2B/ 3B 4 1.9 2.1
Mike Trout LAA OF 36 34.0 2.0
Freddy Peralta MIL SP 3 1.0 2.0
Dinelson Lamet SD SP 15 13.1 1.9
Kris Bryant CHC 3B 10 8.1 1.9
Nick Solak TEX 2B/OF 10 8.1 1.9
Devin Williams MIL RP 8 6.1 1.9
Brad Hand WSH RP 11 9.2 1.8
Mark Melancon SD RP 2 0.4 1.6
Nelson Cruz MIN DH 13 11.4 1.6
James Paxton SEA SP 3 1.4 1.6
Xander Bogaerts BOS SS 26 24.5 1.5
Miguel Sano MIN 1B 10 8.6 1.4
Christian Yelich MIL OF 33 31.6 1.4
Nick Wittgren CLE RP 3 1.7 1.3
Matt Bush TEX RP 1 -0.3 1.3
Willi Castro DET SS/3B 2 0.7 1.3
Greg Holland KC RP 3 1.7 1.3
Ketel Marte ARI 2B 17 15.8 1.2
Trevor Story COL SS 36 34.9 1.1
Rowan Wick CHC RP 1 -0.1 1.1
Stefan Crichton ARI RP 1 0.2 0.8
Luis Robert CHW OF 27 26.3 0.7
Anthony Santander BAL OF 12 11.3 0.7
Griffin Canning LAA SP 3 2.3 0.7
George Springer TOR OF 22 21.3 0.7
Starlin Castro WSH 2B 1 0.3 0.7
Salvador Perez KC C 11 10.3 0.7
Alex Colome MIN RP 5 4.4 0.6
Luke Voit NYY 1B 6 5.4 0.6
Anthony Rendon LAA 3B 21 20.5 0.5
Blake Treinen LAD RP 1 0.5 0.5
Paul Goldschmidt STL 1B 13 12.5 0.5
Lance Lynn CHW SP 16 15.6 0.4
Ke’Bryan Hayes PIT 3b 11 10.6 0.4
Cristian Pache ATL OF 1 0.6 0.4
Sean Murphy OAK C 5 4.6 0.4
Chris Paddack SD SP 11 10.7 0.3
Trea Turner WSH SS 34 33.7 0.3
Sean Manaea OAK SP 3 2.8 0.2
Ozzie Albies ATL 2B 25 24.8 0.2
Rafael Montero SEA RP 7 6.9 0.1
Yadier Molina STL C 1 1.0 0.0
Trey Mancini BAL 1B/OF 5 5.0 0.0
Alex Reyes STL RP 3 3.1 -0.1
Yu Darvish SD SP 26 26.1 -0.1
Jose Ramirez CLE 3B 33 33.1 -0.1
Frankie Montas OAK SP 6 6.2 -0.2
Edwin Diaz NYM RP 14 14.2 -0.2
Danny Jansen TOR C 1 1.2 -0.2
Starling Marte MIA OF 17 17.2 -0.2
Joely Rodriguez TEX RP 0 0.3 -0.3
Jordan Montgomery NYY SP 5 5.3 -0.3
Adam Ottavino BOS RP 1 1.3 -0.3
Willson Contreras CHC C 7 7.4 -0.4
David Peralta ARI OF 0 0.4 -0.4
Spencer Turnbull DET SP 0 0.4 -0.4
DJ LeMahieu NYY 1B/2B/ 3B 23 23.4 -0.4
Kenley Jansen LAD RP 11 11.4 -0.4
Eugenio Suarez CIN 3B 15 15.4 -0.4
Drew Pomeranz SD RP 2 2.4 -0.4
Marcus Stroman NYM SP 5 5.5 -0.5
Archie Bradley PHI RP 1 1.5 -0.5
Josh Donaldson MIN 3B 9 9.5 -0.5
Bryan Reynolds PIT OF 3 3.5 -0.5
Whit Merrifield KC 2B/OF 19 19.5 -0.5
Hector Neris PHI RP 4 4.5 -0.5
Chris Sale BOS SP 1 1.6 -0.6
Joakim Soria ARI RP 4 4.6 -0.6
Franmil Reyes CLE DH 13 13.6 -0.6
Freddie Freeman ATL 1B 31 31.6 -0.6
Wilson Ramos DET C 1 1.7 -0.7
Alex Bregman HOU 3B 23 23.8 -0.8
David Fletcher LAA 2B/SS/ 3B 6 6.8 -0.8
Corbin Burnes MIL SP 12 12.9 -0.9
Matt Barnes BOS RP 4 5.1 -1.1
Chris Martin ATL RP 2 3.2 -1.2
Mitch Garver MIN C -1 0.2 -1.2
Yimi Garcia MIA RP 0 1.3 -1.3
Colin Moran PIT 1B 0 1.3 -1.3
Amir Garrett CIN RP 3 4.3 -1.3
Jonathan Schoop DET 2B 1 2.4 -1.4
Ian Happ CHC OF 9 10.4 -1.4
Giovanny Gallegos STL RP 1 2.4 -1.4
Marcus Semien TOR SS 14 15.5 -1.5
Luis Castillo CIN SP 21 22.5 -1.5
Michael Pineda MIN SP 1 2.5 -1.5
Didi Gregorius PHI SS 10 11.7 -1.7
Nathan Eovaldi BOS SP 6 7.7 -1.7
Kyle Hendricks CHC SP 9 10.7 -1.7
Andres Gimenez CLE 2B/SS/ 3B 11 12.7 -1.7
Aaron Bummer CHW RP 1 2.8 -1.8
Marcell Ozuna ATL OF 23 24.8 -1.8
Dylan Carlson STL OF 6 7.8 -1.8
Fernando Tatis Jr. SD SS 39 40.8 -1.8
Reyes Moronta SF RP 0 1.8 -1.8
Joc Pederson CHC OF 2 3.9 -1.9
Anthony Bass MIA RP 1 2.9 -1.9
Tanner Scott BAL RP 2 3.9 -1.9
Brandon Belt SF 1B 0 1.9 -1.9
Joey Gallo TEX OF 7 9.0 -2.0
Carlos Santana KC 1B 0 2.0 -2.0
Juan Soto WSH OF 39 41.0 -2.0
Chad Green NYY RP 1 3.0 -2.0
Hunter Renfroe BOS OF 2 4.1 -2.1
Raisel Iglesias LAA RP 11 13.1 -2.1
Ronald Acuna Jr. ATL OF 45 47.1 -2.1
Jared Walsh LAA 1B -2 0.2 -2.2
Trevor Rosenthal OAK RP 4 6.2 -2.2
Josh Naylor CLE OF 1 3.2 -2.2
Stephen Strasburg WSH SP 9 11.2 -2.2
Corey Dickerson MIA OF -2 0.2 -2.2
Christian Vazquez BOS C 7 9.3 -2.3
Ryan Mountcastle BAL 1B/OF 10 12.3 -2.3
Mark Canha OAK OF 2 4.3 -2.3
Brandon Woodruff MIL SP 20 22.3 -2.3
Mookie Betts LAD OF 37 39.3 -2.3
Tarik Skubal DET SP -1 1.4 -2.4
Adam Eaton CHW OF -2 0.4 -2.4
Austin Riley ATL 3B 8 10.4 -2.4
Scott Barlow KC RP -1 1.4 -2.4
Tanner Rainey WSH RP 0 2.5 -2.5
Yuli Gurriel HOU 1B 5 7.6 -2.6
Diego Castillo TB RP 3 5.6 -2.6
Josh Hader MIL RP 15 17.7 -2.7
Kyle Tucker HOU OF 19 21.7 -2.7
Mitch Haniger SEA OF -2 0.7 -2.7
Daniel Bard COL RP 3 5.8 -2.8
Lourdes Gurriel Jr. TOR OF 14 16.8 -2.8
Rhys Hoskins PHI 1B 8 10.8 -2.8
Walker Buehler LAD SP 24 26.9 -2.9
Daniel Hudson WSH RP -2 0.9 -2.9
Andrew Benintendi KC OF -2 0.9 -2.9
Andrelton Simmons MIN SS 0 2.9 -2.9
Kevin Gausman SF SP 12 14.9 -2.9
Gavin Lux LAD 2B 1 4.0 -3.0
Michael Kopech CHW RP -1 2.0 -3.0
Josh Bell WSH 1B 8 11.0 -3.0
Kyle Seager SEA 3B 1 4.1 -3.1
Jorge Polanco MIN SS 7 10.1 -3.1
Jake Diekman OAK RP 0 3.1 -3.1
Gary Sanchez NYY C 4 7.2 -3.2
Clayton Kershaw LAD SP 16 19.2 -3.2
Trevor May NYM RP 2 5.3 -3.3
Rafael Devers BOS 3B 27 30.3 -3.3
Tyler Duffey MIN RP -2 1.3 -3.3
Jordan Romano TOR RP 2 5.3 -3.3
Max Scherzer WSH SP 21 24.4 -3.4
Chris Taylor LAD 2B/SS/ OF -3 0.4 -3.4
Blake Snell SD SP 16 19.4 -3.4
Jordan Hicks STL RP 2 5.4 -3.4
Aroldis Chapman NYY RP 14 17.4 -3.4
Emmanuel Clase CLE RP -1 2.4 -3.4
Emilio Pagan SD RP 2 5.4 -3.4
Alejandro Kirk TOR C -3 0.4 -3.4
Jose Berrios MIN SP 13 16.4 -3.4
J.A. Happ MIN SP -3 0.5 -3.5
Rafael Dolis TOR RP -2 1.5 -3.5
A.J. Minter ATL RP -2 1.5 -3.5
Cesar Hernandez CLE 2B 2 5.5 -3.5
Jose Alvarado PHI RP 0 3.6 -3.6
Ryan Pressly HOU RP 9 12.6 -3.6
Mike Minor KC SP 0 3.7 -3.7
Josh Staumont KC RP -1 2.7 -3.7
Kyle Schwarber WSH OF 8 11.7 -3.7
Will Smith LAD C 4 7.7 -3.7
Randy Arozarena TB OF 19 22.8 -3.8
Lance McCullers Jr. HOU SP 9 12.8 -3.8
Craig Kimbrel CHC RP 4 7.9 -3.9
Gregory Soto DET RP -1 2.9 -3.9
Yusei Kikuchi SEA SP -1 2.9 -3.9
Giancarlo Stanton NYY DH 12 15.9 -3.9
Alex Verdugo BOS OF 12 15.9 -3.9
Jose Quintana LAA SP -2 2.0 -4.0
Jake Odorizzi HOU SP 3 7.0 -4.0
Kolten Wong MIL 2B 3 7.0 -4.0
Aaron Hicks NYY OF 2 6.1 -4.1
Anthony Rizzo CHC 1B 12 16.2 -4.2
Jake McGee SF RP 2 6.3 -4.3
Ian Kennedy TEX RP -4 0.3 -4.3
Adalberto Mondesi KC SS 16 20.3 -4.3
Travis d’Arnaud ATL C 5 9.4 -4.4
Zack Wheeler PHI SP 9 13.4 -4.4
Mike Moustakas CIN 1B/2B 12 16.5 -4.5
Max Kepler MIN OF 8 12.5 -4.5
C.J. Cron COL 1B 0 4.5 -4.5
Patrick Corbin WSH SP 8 12.5 -4.5
Trevor Bauer LAD SP 23 27.5 -4.5
Shohei Ohtani LAA DH 5 9.6 -4.6
Lucas Sims CIN RP -1 3.6 -4.6
Victor Robles WSH OF 9 13.7 -4.7
Liam Hendriks CHW RP 12 16.7 -4.7
Darwinzon Hernandez BOS RP -3 1.7 -4.7
Joe Musgrove SD SP 7 11.7 -4.7
AJ Pollock LAD OF 2 6.8 -4.8
Shane Bieber CLE SP 30 34.8 -4.8
Michael Brantley HOU OF 7 11.9 -4.9
Matt Wisler SF RP -4 0.9 -4.9
Jean Segura PHI 2B/3B 2 7.0 -5.0
Will Smith ATL RP 3 8.0 -5.0
Corey Kluber NYY SP 4 9.0 -5.0
Raimel Tapia COL OF 5 10.0 -5.0
J.B. Wendelken OAK RP -3 2.2 -5.2
German Marquez COL SP 6 11.2 -5.2
Brusdar Graterol LAD RP -2 3.3 -5.3
Tommy Pham SD OF 8 13.4 -5.4
Zack Greinke HOU SP 6 11.4 -5.4
Cody Bellinger LAD 1B/OF 33 38.5 -5.5
Elvis Andrus OAK SS -4 1.6 -5.6
Eduardo Rodriguez BOS SP -1 4.6 -5.6
Jesse Winker CIN OF 4 9.7 -5.7
Lorenzo Cain MIL OF -2 3.7 -5.7
Garrett Crochet CHW RP 0 5.8 -5.8
Peter Fairbanks TB RP 1 6.8 -5.8
Nick Senzel CIN OF 0 5.8 -5.8
Gerrit Cole NYY SP 28 33.9 -5.9
Drew Smyly ATL SP 0 5.9 -5.9
J.T. Realmuto PHI C 14 20.1 -6.1
Taylor Rogers MIN RP 2 8.3 -6.3
Carlos Correa HOU SS 10 16.3 -6.3
Carlos Carrasco NYM SP -1 5.7 -6.7
Andrew Heaney LAA SP 4 10.8 -6.8
Justin Upton LAA OF -2 5.0 -7.0
Justin Turner LAD 3B 8 15.2 -7.2
Alec Bohm PHI 1B/3B 11 18.5 -7.5
Andrew McCutchen PHI OF 2 9.5 -7.5
Byron Buxton MIN OF 10 17.6 -7.6
Matthew Boyd DET SP 0 7.8 -7.8
Aaron Judge NYY OF 15 22.9 -7.9
Jeff McNeil NYM 2B/3B/ OF 10 18.0 -8.0
Eddie Rosario CLE OF 11 19.2 -8.2
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. TOR 1B 16 24.4 -8.4
Joey Votto CIN 1B 0 9.0 -9.0
Charlie Morton ATL SP 6 15.4 -9.4
J.D. Martinez BOS DH 11 21.7 -10.7
Robbie Ray TOR SP -2 9.0 -11.0
Jacob deGrom NYM SP 26 37.5 -11.5
Nick Madrigal CHW 2B 3 14.6 -11.6
Gleyber Torres NYY SS 14 26.1 -12.1
Corey Seager LAD SS 19 33.1 -14.1
Jose Altuve HOU 2B 9 23.6 -14.6

 

 
  1. Eric the Red says:
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    Strong post, J-Foh!!

    That’s all for now…

    • J-FOL says:
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      @Eric the Red: Thanks for the read!

  2. Sky

    Sky says:
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    I hear Rudy was actually the cameraman O’Reilly saved in the Falklands War

    • That was back in my pre-teen revolutionary days

      • J-FOL says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: Rudy the Radical

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: oh and did I nail your drink of choice for writing fantasy?

        • I do like hibiscus mint iced tea but I drink an s-ton of coffee and iced tea

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Rudy Gamble: me too on the coffee and tea, my gets the Luzianne tea from Texas to make the best iced tea.

            but seriously, try the hot hibiscus with honey and tequila when you have a cold.

    • J-FOL says:
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      @Sky: a war like that changes a man

  3. Birdmann says:
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    You didn’t hear Admiral Ackbar screaming “It’s a TRAP!”
    Just like how long it took to scroll down to post
    I like Wong, trying to figure out what round (in a 14 team keeper 6×6 standard 5×5 plus XBH and QS) to draft him. Somewhere inbetween G&R’s projected seems like I should target him rounds 6-8.

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      @Birdmann: I wouldn’t pass up better stats but if it’s close hes your guy

  4. Eric the Red says:
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    How should I view Mike Fiers in a 10-team league? He’d be my No. 4 SP, but I have my doubts. Should I?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Eric the Red: depends, in roto with a strong pen I like it but I want at least a closer or two before I draft him. Also depends on how the room is valuing starting pitching.

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        @J-FOH: I have secured both Koji and Cishek, along with Greinke, Teheran and Iwakuma.

        My other question would be whether to snag Jose Fernandez late in the draft before taking a No. 3 RP (Benoit).

        Thanks for the assist(s)!

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          @Eric the Red: In redraft I’m not touching JoFer this year. Let someone else deal with that. With the three you have I would grab Friers first, you’re going to be a little light on K’s with that group. I would also target Quintana or Shoemaker as your SP5. BTW is Richards off the board?

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            @J-FOH:

            Yes, he’s off the board. I’ll scour for K’s. Thanks again.

  5. de nachos says:
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    “Funnzies.” Like Funyuns but with more lint. The player name search works great on this, good job to all involved. So, Grey doesn’t believe in negative $$ amounts but Rudy will go minus -20 bean on a Houston catcher? Cold hearted… p.p.s. Hank Conger is Asian?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @de nachos: funnzies is like a laid back care free fonzie less the macho swagger

  6. Regan says:
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    Good stuff. Been poring over both set of rankings and researching the discrepancies to form my own conclusions. I also use Lindy’s as a 3rd set of eyes. Throw in a little JB pitcher ranks, mix it around and viola…fantasy gold.

    Kinda think this is the year Walker figures it out. Ms fan so a little biased but also follow them closer than most. Played great down the stretch last year and carried over to this spring. Working on a new pitch, slider, and it’s a beast. Ditched the cutter which was only meh. Pitch grades out very close to Hughes slider and look what he did with it last year. It’s slower than the cut and that helps the fastball and split/change speed differentials. He’s got 2 plus pitches already so when he gets the slider dialed in watch out. Think he earns the 5th spot and rolls.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Regan: If we only look at his Septemeber we can be over emphasizing a 3 game start month. It really depends on league size, format, strategies. I wouldn’t pass on Quintana for him but when a guy throws that hard and is in that home park we have to be intrigued. The SwStr% was pretty average so hopefully that new pitch will help this

  7. titan says:
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    Love this post. Can we get a column with “average” rank of Grey/Rudy? I have some players I agree more with one than the other, but I feel like if I want to a draft with the ave rank of the two of them, I’d use my gut in either direction from the players I agreed more with Grey or more with Rudy…

    • J-FOH says:
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      @titan: your gut is what makes it your team. We all have guys we like. We just need to use these two to check ourselves to make sure we aren’t buying everything with rose colored glasses.

      I can ask Rudy for an average ranking between the two.

  8. c0wfunk says:
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    Is there a place I can see Rudy’s rankings by themselves in a chart like the top 400? Nie post, thanks!

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      @c0wfunk: oh and thanks for the kind words, and BTW love that avi? where did you get that ?

  9. Connor says:
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    Can anyone help me out with draft strategy? I’ve never played fantasy before so I’m a little clueless. But the league I’m in is 12-team 6×6 roto with the extra categories being hits and quality starts. The rosters are 5 outfielders, 2 utilities, 3 SP, 2 RP, 2 P, and 4 bench spots. So do I basically just draft hitters normally with extra weight on players with high batting average? And then do I more or less punt RPs? I was thinking of filling up on starters even into the bench and then just getting two mid- to low-level closers just to rack up saves. Any help would be great as I pretty much have no idea what I’m doing.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Connor: with XBH you definitely want to look at slugging and ISO to help you out. Two closer is fine for now with a look at situations as the season goes on. We are always a great help on that every day, so be here every morning with your cup of coffee and read grey like its your bible. Is this a innings limit or game starts league? that will help me help you with a pitching strategy.

      • Connor says:
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        @J-FOH: Well the extra hitting category is just hits not XBH’s. And I don’t believe there’s any limit for pitchers. Looking at the settings the only limit I see on pitchers is 200 games started (i.e. none).

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          @Connor: my bad. Then treat hitting the same. In game starts you should load up on high k/9 pen arms like wade Davis, boxberger, Andrew miller, betances, chapman. Then draft about 5 SP and stream thru the year out of free gent pool. We have our stream o nater tool here that is really useful and if you are stuck ask in greys column during the week so we can help you along the way. We’ll win this thing

          • Connor says:
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            @J-FOH: I love the confidence. And I hate taking up so much of your time but I have one last set of queries. What do you mean when you say “In game starts.” If I’m drafting 5 starters, how many RP’s do I draft since I only have 4 bench spots? And I’m I streaming starters or RP’s every day?

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Connor: starters you stream but not every day. “game starts” means your starters can only total 200 game starts on the season but you can have as may relief pitcher innings as you want.

              No worries about our tme, I’m happy to always help newbies to this and we all are. This is why I do what I do

  10. royce! says:
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    Looking forward to the draft tonight…figure it’ll be practice for my real league…

    • J-FOH says:
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      @royce!: oh so I’m batting practice?

      • royce! says:
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        @J-FOH: I’m hoping I’m not Chris Young

        • J-FOH says:
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          @royce!: extra krispy or exta tall-y?

  11. royce! says:
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    Last weekend I criticized Arenado to Grey due to his terrible road numbers but I just got through checking out other Rockies’ splits and holy effing hell, they were nearly all just terrible on the road…Cargo hit .160 while hitting .336 at home! Rosario was around the same. Seems you’d have to bench any Rockies hitter for away games, which could be argument for avoiding them, but if you had a streaming spot in a shallow league, you could be golden.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @royce!: so many things depend on league and bench size. I used to split good players when I had a deeper bench.

  12. Baezaworldseries says:
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    Duped or not. You nailed it. I like the “what are you thinking” moments. RB needs more FOH.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Baezaworldseries: thanks buddy, good to see one of the razznasty guys come by and say high. Its always fun looking at these two side by side

  13. Jared says:
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    12 team h2h category league. obp replaces average and xbh is 6th stat. I’m only allowed 4 keepers. I’m keeping bautista, Goldschmidt, and rizzo. I traded corey kluber and george springer for Anthony rendon. If his knee is worse then now before draft I can still keep starling marte. Was this an over pay on my part or great way to upgrade my team? Thanks for your advice.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Jared: tough call there, I actually prefer springer in a keeper h2h. I would still take rendon over marte regardless of knee. Its a keeper

      • Jared says:
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        @J-FOH: I should say that my keeper league resets every 5 years and all players are released into the player pool. And each year after you get to keep 1 additional keeper. So this years keepers are really only keepers for this year and next then they are all returned to player pool.

        • J-FOH

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          @Jared: then go marte if you are worried about the knee

  14. Jared says:
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    Sorry actually this is final year of keepers. All players returned to pool at end of year .

  15. Big Magoo

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    Great article. It’s like debating Pacquiao vs Mayweather – Grey’s aggression and KO power against Rudy’s defensive prowess and precision. At least this battle is on while both experts are on their games…

    How is Blackmon your ADP steal? Could’ve had him in the 9th…

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Big Magoo: Do you take The Devirginator (OTS) in the 6th if he’s still there?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Big Magoo: Blackmon went later in other drafts and yes you jacked me. I should of used under valued instead of steal. I know how much we like the 5 tool and 5 tool lite players

      • Big Magoo

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        @J-FOH: 5 cat player who plays half of his games at Coors? Methinks the regression police are being a bit too harsh in this case.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Big Magoo: like when ward was too hard on the beaver last night

  16. SteveNZ says:
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    Nice work, JFOH. I like using both sets of rankings, especially later in the draft. Always nice to see a guy that Grey likes late appear in a high-ish spot in Rudy’s rankings.

    Like having Rudy’s rankings open when I’m drafting my H2H (OBP & AVG) league too…

    • Wake Up says:
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      @SteveNZ: IPA reco…Stone Delicious

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Wake Up: That sounds real good – so much US stuff we don’t get here unfortunately.

        • royce! says:
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          @SteveNZ: No Stone in NZ? They seem ubiquitous in the states, so I figured they made it out there, especially because Green Flash has.

          • SteveNZ says:
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            @royce!: I’ve not seen it in my local craft stockist – maybe I need to dig around in the cooler a bit more…

            • J-FOH says:
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              @SteveNZ: have you thought of home brewing?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @SteveNZ: Thanks good buddy, for once, this is the best of both worlds

  17. nick the dick says:
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    I feel like Elaine with Jerry, George and Kramer walking up on one side, and Kevin, Gene and Feldman on the other…The way Rudy approaches his drafts really makes me go wop bom a loo mop a lomp bam boom, oh Rudy! Wealth of knowledge that guy is. But Grey has….he has….ummm….a ballsy nutsack filled with stick-to-it-iveness? Yeah ill roll with that. I’m staying Switzerland on this one. Call me Switz Beats. Unless you are an option, JFoh. I choo choo choose you! Moobs and Shane Greene for everyone!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @nick the dick: its ok to be torn as long as you’re not hanging with bania or whatley then you are all good here

      • nick the dick says:
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        @J-FOH: oh and snagged Blackmon as my 4th OF. Zing!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @nick the dick: I have to wonder if this post would be blasphemy for some. The comments tomorrow will be interesting. I hope torches and pitchforks dont come out

      • Happy Vegans says:
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        @J-FOH: “Just a fly in the ointment, JFOH, a monkey in the wrench, a pain in the ass.”

        Great stuff as usual, Mr. FOH!

          • Happy Vegans says:
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            @J-FOH:HA! Actually, a bacon cheeseburger sounds effin’ awesome right now.

            Keep up the good work, sir.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Happy Vegans: thanks buddy, maybe one day we can go out for garden burgers or kung pao tofu

              • Happy Vegans says:
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                @J-FOH: Awesome! Maybe after my season (which should be about 3 or 4 weeks in), you can teach me the tao of FBB, Master JFOH of the 5-finger death thrust monkey style Razzarian.

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @Happy Vegans: it will probably be how to smooth talk a waitress into being ok with a 5% tip.

      • nick the dick says:
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        @J-FOH: youre fully equipped to take on the masses and emerge unscathed. Your Frankenstein build helps too. You always keep it real, thats why youre my guy! Tomorrow might be when keeping it real goes wrong but it all just boils down to skunk beard jealousy…..just drafted in Ralphs RCL and it went very well. Nice to see you and Rudy talking up Bryant, Harvey and Richards below, got all 3 of them tonight. Getting 2nd pick for some Giancarlo action sure helped! And went Scherzer for a bonafide ace as insurance for Harvey and Richards. Went heavy reliever this time to really try the strategy you talked about in the FCL draft too.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @nick the dick: HA I drafted tonight, actually still am and got Giancarlo and Mad Max

          • nick the dick says:
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            @J-FOH: Nice, great beards think alike. Feels like a warm blanket having Giancarlo and Max anchoring my offense and pitching. I’ve been semi-switching it up draft to draft to see what will work the best. Slew of different guys on each team and somehow like each squad in its own way. We shall see…Tonight got an OF of Stanton, Cespedes, Ozuna, Blackmon, Rajai. That shit is tasty.

  18. Wake Up says:
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    Good to see you back at the keypad Hatred!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wake Up: thank wake, I had a rough February

      • Wake Up says:
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        @J-FOH: Hopefully this helps…Grey just told me about a dream he had…involving you and TC…he said there was mud and a pig with two backs…and you ended up with a pet pomeranian named Jackson Cockhate!

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          @Wake Up: Yes I saw it but like your version of the story better. I call him Crofty for short

          • Wake Up says:
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            @J-FOH: I thought Crofty works for Sky…

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Wake Up: sssshhhhhhh

              • Wake Up says:
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                @J-FOH: David Croft…

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @Wake Up: Croft Superstars?

  19. Cram It says:
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    Good stuff Jack. Positional scarcity is something I struggle with rationalizing. On one hand, you have Rudy saying (I think) to hell with it, take the best player available regardless of position. On the other hand, he likes Gattis because of the potentially superior numbers he could provide at a scarce position. I think he struggles in the AL, bats .245 like most catchers and chips in a few more HR’s than most C’s. But point being, ohhh….I forgot. Something, something, catchers what?

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      @Cram It: uh 30 homeruns and 600 AB’s from any player is huge. Since he wont be catching usually he should have more AB’s. at the end of it all numbers are numbers regardless where they are in your lineup

      • the swinging says:
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        @J-FOH: 600 ab for evan gattis? I’d bet against that all day, and twice today, which is sunday.

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Cram It: Forget about the catcher thing. He’s a top 15 HR hitter, isn’t he?
      Nice MR pickup btw…

    • Gattis is valued where he is based solely on his projected stats – the fact he is a catcher has maybe a 1-2 dollar impact. I am not drafting him mainly because I prefer to wait on catchers and don’t trust he’ll stay healthy

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        @Rudy Gamble: but like Tulo and CarGo you have to take a shot on those guys if the value is there. I take this as a risk reward game with a few draft picks and I like the risk with him.

        • @J-FOH: eh, I have been burned too much at catcher. Would take a huge discount. I don’t like gambling on a Tulo or cargo but I take my gambles throughout – guys like harvey or Bryant that I feel are being undervalued for irrational reasons

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            @Rudy Gamble: Ive been warming on Bryant, partially your fault. Harvey for sure, what about Richards?

            My take on Gattis is he is a position player who happens to be catcher eligible this year, like Santana in Yahoo

            • But Santana had solid health, good OBP, and job security. Gattis is an atrocious fielder so OF leash is short. On same team as Chris Carter so DH time isn’t guaranteed. Richards is very good but see him as an SP3. I like my SP3 to be NL though took smyly in NFBC

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                @Rudy Gamble: I took smyly on friday night in FCL. I read a nice article on approach in Tampa and his naturally rising fastball. He was such a good value I couldn’t pass him up. I’m all in on Ryu this year. How about you?

                • @J-FOH: I liked that Smyly pick I was gonna grab him. No such thing as a rising fastball though. Physically impossible Hatred!

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                    @Wake Up: hahaha, the voodoo that they doodoo

  20. M says:
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    Keeper rosters came out this morning (each team must keep 10) 15 team 6×6 obp roto-which team has the advantage rolling into the draft? Thanks.

    Team A
    V-Mart $17
    R.Zimmerman $12
    J.Harrison $15
    Yelich $6
    Choo $8
    Cueto $17
    Wainwright $25
    Kennedy $6
    C-Mart $7
    Melancon $6

    Team B
    Lucroy $18
    LaRoche $9
    A-Rod $1
    Altuve $21
    Cruz $18
    King Felix $36
    Cole $6
    Chen $11
    Heaney $6
    Feliz $6

    Team C
    Big Papi $20
    Machado $6
    D.Gordon $7
    A. Escobar $11
    Ozuna $6
    CarGomez $20
    Puig $11
    Kluber $7
    Arrieta $15
    A.Wood $18

    • J-FOH says:
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      @M: C

      • @J-FOH: making mom and dad fight again…

  21. JB says:
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    I view SP like grey and you seem to, with that said give my your ideal rotation in a 13 team 5×5 league(9P, min 3 RP) in an auction (260 cap) and what dollar amount you would expect to have them( Im usually 70% hitters)??

    • J-FOH says:
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      @JB: I’m more 65/35 but all depends on how others are valuing the arms

  22. Chris says:
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    Great post fellas! You’re both fantasy gods in my eyes. I always said that no 2 people’s rankings are the same. And for that reason we should use both of their rankings as a foundation when building our own rankings

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Chris: well said

  23. the swinging says:
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    This website ain’t big enough for the both of em’…

    am I wrong in saying there’s a bit of a civil war going on here? I can feel the tension all the way in jersey.

    Cant really have advice websites that contradict their own advice, it’s bad for business. That would be like a website giving out ratings on stocks, and the website says “well some of us see widget co. as a buy, and some of us analysts have widget co. as a sell…”

    it’s a turn off to the reader.

    Yahoo had piece where each pert listed their their most over and under valued players for football. And there were several players listed as both over and undervalued based on the particular perts opinion. There’s no take away there, and it makes the writers look silly and less credible.

    Rudy start a website bud, time to leave the nest.

    • nick the dick says:
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      @the swinging: you don’t know true beauty when you see it

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        @nick the dick: well on the players where they differ in their opinion by 10 rounds or more it’s kinda like… huhhh.

        It’s fine to disagree on players value. But if ur working on the same advice website, Id like to see a debate between grey and rudy on each player where there are huge differences. This way the reader can gain more than just “let’s just split the difference with latos rankings…”

        Podcast on that would be great.

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          @the swinging: I hear ya. You do get some debate about the differences on players when the banter in the comments, but a Rudy vs Grey podcast would be awesome!

    • nick the dick says:
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      @the swinging::Point being that one site doesn’t need to have a consensus among all the writers. They show many different points of views and strategies which are all valid in certain circumstances. Grey’s statistical analysis mixed with his crazy gut is a great tool to use in unison with Rudy’s stats mixed with more stats mixed with crazy amounts of more stats to get a nice smorgasbord of steady eddies and upside breakout values. If everyone on the site had the same opinions, you could just read one ranking article and take it as the gospel disregarding every other post. Theyre the Oscar and Felix of fantasy. The Jay-Z and R. Kelly. (Sorry Grey, youre Jay-Z). The fact that JFoh also took the time to discuss the differing views between them makes it all the more wonderful when planning your strategy.

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        @nick the dick: i think when you have a huge difference in opinion in ranking some players, those players should be focused on and debated as to why they are ranked where they are. Would be a benefit for all.

        • nick the dick says:
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          @the swinging: that is kinda the point of this article so it’s a start

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            @nick the dick: so u mean u agree. Thanks.

            • nick the dick says:
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              @the swinging: I mean I hear what youre saying, not neccisarily agree with all of it. But you said Rudy needs to leave and start his own site. Here, with both Grey and Rudy, the debate between the players ranked far apart can actually happen. And does happen. One site, different views, constant debate, pick your poison. I dont see a thing wrong with that.

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                @nick the dick: yeh for sure. But they both seem a little afraid of offending one another and stepping on toes. That’s y I said another site for rudy…

                But if given a podcast of them discussing the players they have valued furthest apart in their rankings and talk out why they ranked those players where they did that would be optimal (2 heads are better than 1) to the reader who’s logically deducting the players values based on their opinions.

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                  @the swinging: Ehh i dont know about them caring about stepping on eachothers toes, they know they value guys and draft differently. Thats the genius of this article addressing key players they are farther apart on. I do like a G vs R podcast idea for sure, but the wealth of posts and tools they provide can kinda speak on it themselves too.

                • @the swinging: not to be a dick but…aren’t you the same guy who went on and on about how Darvish was the greatest thing since sliced bread without any acknowledgement that you were absolutely wrong?

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Wake Up: I’m sorry Wake, this is a dick-only zone. Either that comment was intended to be malignant or I must ask you to retract it.

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                      @nick the dick: oh wake can dish it hard, oh yeah real hard

                  • the swinging says:
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                    @Wake Up: not sure if I could find greys post, but I ate crow on one of the boards unsolicited. So yes, I did.

                    • The Harrow says:
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                      @the swinging: “it’s a turn off to the reader” don’t take your inability to think through multiple ways of valuing things and pretend your way or thoughts speak for anybody else. If you’ve ever actually intended to hang out with people who argue and think about things you’d understand that multiple viewpoints is EXACTLY how anything is learned at all. Anybody stupid enough to think their “way/method” of doing something is the only one is simply the definition of a believer (i.e not bright). Go join a religion if you want simple one way answers, leave the thinking to the rest of us. Falsification (which comes from multiple viewpoints) is how any knowledge is even possible. If it offends your delicate sensibilities go join a church, they’ll take the thinking out of your hands, it’s too big a responsibility, clearly.

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      @the swinging: the beauty of razzball is we are a collection of writers who each play this game a little differently, having writers that fall in lockstep with each other isnt who we are. Some people like Grey’s way and others Rudy, some like the Tehol way and some the Sky way. JB has his own pitcher profile values that differ as well. Being singular in direction is boring and leads to stale interaction. The fact that we are here talking about the differences demonstrates why we are the best site on the net for user interaction. I have made more friends on this site than I have since college. But being all the same leads to no discussion and hence no interaction.

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        @J-FOH: i dont know I still feel there’s a bit of not wanted to hurt feelings when it comes to the differences in rank. Forget feelings…

        I mean rudy and grey practically didn’t even address this post. And didn’t have any replied comments to eachother.

        I’m all for multiple points of view, but on very polarizing players like latos and Ross and some others, I want more analysis on how 2 very smart people could be so far apart on their valuation.

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          @the swinging: they do but in a very light hearted way.

          Every year when they do the friends and family league it becomes a weekly RCL post of Grey vs Rudy.

          I hope regardless of this you enjoy the site and find something here to help you

          • the swinging says:
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            @J-FOH: nah I don’t enjoy razzball…

            I only visit the site 20 times a day…

            I am a huge troll but not Intentionally.

            I question and challenge everything (usually with a purpose and in an I tell gent way).

            what else is there?

            Cool post.

            • The Harrow says:
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              @the swinging: numerous times when Rudy is on podcast with Grey they pretty much argue about players the whole time.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @The Harrow: I read your other response above and I always struggle with playing the church card. I went to catholic school as a child and the old Irish priests always reminded us to read between the lines, find the moral of the story and question if it doesn’t make sense to you. Maybe my take away was different.

  24. Aaron says:
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    In a 14-team salaried keeper league my 3 aces are banged up (Sale, JFern, Richards) and my SP depth is mostly filled with guys who’ve only had one season of fantasy relevance (Duffy, CMart, Hahn, Keuchel, Greene). Spending a little more money on a SP who I can rely on a little more, would you prefer $8.5M on Porcello or $9M on Brandon McCarthy? Previous health issues have me leaning towards Ricky boy, but I can’t seem to feel confident in my choice. Thanks in advance.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Aaron: McCarthy

  25. Matt says:
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    Hey RCL writers. I had my RCL draft last night and wanted to hear some thoughts on my team.

    C-Grandal
    1B- Pujols
    2B- Odor
    3B- Donaldson
    SS- Danny Santana
    MI- Jean Segura
    CI- LaRoche
    OF- Adam Jones
    OF- Jason Heyward
    OF- Soler
    OF AJ Pollock
    OF- Dexter Fowler
    Util- Kennys Vargas
    BE- Michael Saunders

    P-Kluber
    P- Samardzija
    P- David Robertson
    P- Hughes
    P- McHugh
    P- Rondon
    P- Eovaldi
    P- Cingrani
    P- Gregerson
    BE- Kelvin Herrera
    BE- Sergio Romo

    Did I win my league? What do you think? Am I too shallow anywhere?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Matt: RCL’s aren’t won on draft day but you have a nice start, you will need to create a few fluid spots for streaming and batty calls, but for the most part the core is there and thats all that matters

      • Matt says:
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        @J-FOH: I hear ya, thanks for the response. I do really like my team tho I think its real great. Now they just have to perform…

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Matt: I’m not high on Fowler and cingrani, and Eovaldi’s spot should end up being a streamer spot. The most important thing is you like it, nothing worse then starting to self loathe before opening day, that is what week two of the season is for.

  26. Schwab says:
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    Hey J-FOH,
    Great stuff. Looking for opinions. 8 team, H2H point based scoring, Keep 15 each year for as long as you want. 1B=1.5pts, 2B=2.5, 3B=3.5, HR=6, RBI=1.5, R,SB,BB=1 each. W=7, L= -2, K=1.5, ER = -1, IP=1.2, QS, CG, SO= 3 each and 10 starts per week . Kept Encarnacion, Rendon, Machado, Baez, C.Gonzalez, Harper, Heyward, Hosmer Price, Cueto, Teheran, Lester, Kluber, Taijuan Walker & Giolito. Any thoughts on where I’m weak, strong and what I should look for in the draft?
    Thanks.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Schwab: @Schwab: speed and average but that’s easy to find. You have some risky guys on offense but that’s the chance you have to take

  27. Seekrit Ayjun-mann says:
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    @J-FOH This might have been previously answered, but is there a table such as this one that has the sum of Grey and Rudy’s rankings along with the difference? If there was a way to extract this spreadsheet, I could do it myself using ninja technology, however I don’t see that option.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Seekrit Ayjun-mann: yeah I don’t me the tables. Just write the words. What reason for the sum?

      • Seekrit Ayjun-mann says:
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        @J-FOH: The sum would give me a composite ranking.

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