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I’m so effin’ stuffed from stuffing and turkey and turkey stuffing and–Why didn’t the Indians just pounce on the Pilgrims when they were in a food coma?  Any hoo!  Happy Thanksgiving, now let’s get down to bidness, as Hip Grey says.  In my Harrison Bader fantasy outlook post, I went over a lot of what I think of the Cards’ outfield.  Same pretty much holds true for Tyler O’Neill.  Find Bader’s name and replace with O’Neill.  And, I guess, replace Harrison with Tyler, otherwise you’re gonna be reading about Harrison O’Neill who does not exist.  If there’s a Harrison O’Neill reading this, sorry, you’re Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense.  All I’ll say specifically about Tyler O’Neill regarding playing time is, if he’s the rookie outfielder call-up for the Cards, it likely hurts Bader and vice versa.  Okay, with that out of the way, Tyler O’Neill is a sexy ball of meat.  There’s a GIF below that I admired for about twenty-five minutes.  He looks a little like Jeff Bagwell, right?  He has much worse swing tendencies than Bagwell, but I’ll get to that in paragraph numero dos.  Right now, let’s admire that GIF.  Short, compact, monster power.  Makes me want to buy groceries from Tom Thumb.  Wait, what?  Well, I guess if subliminal advertising is gonna work on me from that clip, it’s not Cox.  By the way, Landrum backwards means nothing, so not sure what that outfield fence is getting at.

So, what can we expect from Tyler O’Neill for 2018 fantasy baseball?

Dude’s beastmode with hashtags all over the place.  He is exactly the kind of guy that is much more interesting for fantasy than real baseball.  Last year, he had 31 HRs and 14 SBs in Triple-A.  My eyes legit just rolled up and I fainted.  My God, man, can I own this guy everywhere on the quickfast?  Of course, there’s a big drawback, as lightly mentioned in the opening paragraph — he swings and misses.  A lot.  Last year, his strikeout rate was near 27% across two teams’ minor league systems (he was traded midseason to the Cards from the M’s).  Oh, and on that parenthetical, I like O’Neill even more because the M’s traded him away.  Dipoto is Di-loco.  Okay, back to the K-rate.  Just saying 27% doesn’t tell you the full story.  It was 5% higher in High-A.  That’s right, boys and five girls, he’s getting better.  As we know from all of baseball, a 27+% strikeout rate is not a deal breaker, and O’Neill could get his down to a 24-27% range in the majors, while hitting 35 homers.  Oh, and he’s only 22 years old!  The Cards’ outfield shituation is my only hesitation about saying O’Neill is going to be the NL Rookie of the Year in 2018.  Playing time for 2018 will be a concern.  However, if he sees 450+ ABs, he gets 27 homers and a .240 average with a handful of steals too.  Yeah, I’m a fan.  In redrafts, he won’t be draftable this year in March (outside of NL-Only leagues), but if an injury happens, I’ll be going all-in on him.  For 2018, I’ll give Tyler O’Neill the projections of 21/10/32/.238/3 in only 207 ABs, but there’s a chance for much more.  With the right breaks, he could be 2018’s Cody Bellinger.

   
  1. Ueckerforpresident says:
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    Not sure what Dipoto was thinking with that trade but then again every league has it’s “taco” GM right? As a Brewers fan I really dislike the thought of O’Neil hitting 30-40 HR for the Cards.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d imagine you would

  2. Simply Fred

    Simply Fred says:
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    Grey, so, given your ‘Bring on the robots!’, you going to engineer the BOT tools be posted?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sorry, don’t follow, what do you mean engineer bots tools?

      • Simply Fred

        Simply Fred says:
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        @Grey: Publish a post that outlines how the rest of us can be BOTs. It is not at all clear to me, how a manager can ‘program’ the ‘system’ to engineer daily ‘computer’ lineup changes based on Rudy’s Streamonator and Hittertron.
        Again, that ‘appears’ advantageous to me. Without having the total understanding of what goes on ‘behind the scenes’, it is difficult to measure perceived advantage, mush less compete on a level playing field.
        So, publish tools and basic functions (not a particular BOT’s strategies)?

        • Simply Fred

          Simply Fred says:
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          @Simply Fred: This seems necessary to “Bring on the BOTs”, as you challenge.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            I’m saying bring on the Bots against me, I’m not saying I know how the Bots work…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I don’t know, I didn’t build the bots, this is more a Rudy question or a question for the guy that built bots that used the tools…

          • Simply Fred

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            @Grey: I don’t know how to make this much clearer but will keep trying. My minimal understanding so far is that Mr. BOT ‘scrapes’ hittertron pages (Rudy’s terminology when I asked him. Rudy doesn’t know what he does either.) According to Mr. BOT, “I didn’t create them to give myself an advantage; I wrote them to see if it were possible to automate a strategy that I was already using.’
            Therein lies the problem/question. Let’s say master Grey targets 4 for lineup changes on a given day…to be entered by hand. BOT targets the same changes, but he has programmed the computer to ‘instantaneously’ make the changes to his team. Best case scenario for you, you get ONE of targeted changes, BOT gets THREE.
            Though perhaps not INTENDED as an advantage, it appears to be one to me.
            As long as the BOT can do this indiscriminately, without others having access to the same updating capability, he is a HACKER.
            And, as master of YOUR site, it is incumbent upon you to do everything you can to provide a level playing field, or block the process.
            So, either you get the process from the BOT and publish it for all to use, or you BAN the BOT processes entirely.
            Up to you. I am just trying to turn on the light bulbs, before the masses arise.
            Again, BOT complained ‘Honestly, I was surprised at some of the negative reactions from other players in my leagues this year.’
            Grey, I don’t want you to be surprised.
            Do the right thing: either make the tools available to all (I doubt few managers would want this), or ban ’em. I don’t want BOTs, but if you allow the auto updates for one, it needs to be for all.
            My recommendation, DEMAND from the BOT exactly what he does (or face lock out from RCL leagues), so that you KNOW what he is doing. Then decide on a course of action.

            • Grey

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              There two electric cars on the market, a new one comes along and is even more efficient called Tesla… so Tesla is beholden to tell the first two companies how to make their cars better or should they try to make better cars for themselves?

              • Simply Fred

                Simply Fred says:
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                @Grey: Wow. Lost my respect. Enjoy your ivory tower.

                • Simply Fred

                  Simply Fred says:
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                  @Simply Fred: Sauron, the Grey.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Haha, I’m just saying it’s a good challenge to beat the best…

                  • Simply Fred

                    Simply Fred says:
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                    @Grey: The best? Or, inferior with a bigger weapon? You Sauron’s can’t see it coming.

                    • Simply Fred

                      Simply Fred says:
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                      @Simply Fred: I have ten Razzball blog posts under my authorship. Do you claim any rights to these, or is it within my rights as author to ask for them to be deleted from the site?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Why are you so upset over this? It’s Thanksgiving weekend… I can delete whatever you want when I get home from spending time with my family…

                    • Simply Fred

                      Simply Fred says:
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                      @Simply Fred: It is one thing to welcome ‘the best’. I define ‘best’ as those that have the BASEBALL knowledge and skills to outwit fellow managers. I do NOT accept that just because someone has specialized computer skills far beyond the masses of managers, that as ‘best.’
                      Bottom line, accepting those computer skills WITHOUT LISTENING to a veteran and skilled contributor, and without looking into the details, borders on nefarious operations that I do not want my good name and reputation associated with.
                      Matt Trussel, your designated RCL guru, psoted that he would not play in a league with a BOT.
                      Commit to doing a survey, SOMETHING, that demos that you HEAR your constituents.
                      Take the weekend. Re-read the threads. If you chose to ignore my concerns (and others), then yes, please delete my posts.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m listening, just don’t agree

                    • Simply Fred

                      Simply Fred says:
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                      @Simply Fred: Your site. Do what you want.
                      Please remove my posts.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      If you get some people to back your position, I’ll put it to a vote…

                    • Simply Fred

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                      @Simply Fred: You can start with Matt Trussell, your designated RCL guru (whose opinion I value greatly). Ask him if he thinks it is fair and just to have ALL RCL teams open to BOT management. Then, email all of the managers (I don’t have access) who were in BOT leagues this year: “How did you like having a BOT manager in your league? What were the problems, if any?”
                      I really don’t know what you would put to a vote.
                      It is NOT clear what the BOTs are doing. I don’t need to know what their analysis models, only what their programming does to APPARENTLY allow them to make multiple lineup changes when the multitudes do not have that option.

                      You can poll:

                      “Do you want to allow managers in your league to apply programming skills that allow them to make multiple lineup changes ‘instantaneously’ , when you are not?”

                      As far as lining up proponents of my stance, very few managers are even aware of the BOTs yet. I didn’t discover them until I did an end of season look at top performing RCL teams. Most managers don’t have a clue–yet, that other managers exist with this advantage.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You have me doing a lot because of something you’re worried about… why don’t you gather some signatures for change?

                    • Simply Fred

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                      @Simply Fred: If it were my site, I would demand details from the BOT, and then likely make the call on my own based upon whether or not cheating is applicable.

                      I have screamed to get your attention to protect YOU and YOUR site.

                      I have nothing to gain/lose personally by getting you to move ahead. If you don’t prove that BOTs are not getting an unfair advantage, and do nothing to curtail them, I simply, do not play in leagues with them. I am not in a position to protect others..

                      Again, think it only a matter of time before the masses feel the pain and scream as well, and your integrity is questioned.

                      Again, again, it is your site. Do/not do as you please.

                    • Simply Fred

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                      @Simply Fred: since I have not convinced you, take one small step for yourself…ask Matt Trussell

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I emailed Matt…

                    • Simply Fred

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                      @Simply Fred: Grey, I have retired from a glorious career in fantasy baseball. Absolutely would not have been anywhere near the fun that it has been without Razz.

                      I won’t need access to Razz anymore. Please remove my email address from the site (system wouldn’t let me). The rest is yours!

                      Thank you!

                  • Simply Fred

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                    @Grey: Ownership of my posts belong to Grey and Razzball, not me.

  3. InferiorHippo says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Just won it all and want to go for back to back. A guy in my league is rebuilding and offering Scherzer to everyone. This is a 10 team dynasty league (15 keepers plus 5 NAs)

    As a side note he said Acuna has to be in the trade for him to offer Scherzer to me.

    I offered him Acuna and Travis Shaw and he countered with Acuna and Rendon.

    Below is my top guys and prospects if you have any other ideas.

    Mike Trout
    J.D Martinez
    Francisco Lindor
    Anthony Rendon
    Dee Gordon
    Craig Kimbrel
    Justin Verlander
    Khris Davis
    Roberto Osuna
    Travis Shaw
    Buster Posey
    Ian Desmond
    Domingo Santana
    Carlos Santana
    Jameson Taillon
    Gio Gonzalez
    Gerrit Cole

    Ronald Acuna
    Walker Buehler
    Ryan McMahon
    Scott Kingery
    Austin Meadows

    Thanks Grey!

    • Grey

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      I won it all too, and want more…. See there’s more that makes us similar than different… Acuna and Rendon is a bit much, may screw you by this year… Acuna and Shaw seems more than fair… Maybe one of your Pirate SPs?

      • InferiorHippo says:
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        @Grey: Love it. We’re similar because I do everything you tell us to in these posts

        I agree Rendon is too much. I think hes trying to see what else he can get. I’m going to hold strong with Acuna and Shaw then. He’s obsessed with Acuna, so I think he’ll eventually do it.

        Thanks man, you are the only reason I won it all so I’m going to have plenty of questions for you in 2018

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem, happy to help!

          • Biff Malibu says:
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            @Grey: why not acuna kimbrel. Get good in overall value n top fleet RP could achieve

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              SAGNOF

            • InferiorHippo says:
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              @Biff Malibu: Dont hate that…

  4. Jack Deth says:
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    I could never pass for a Harrison O’Neil but I could pull off a Tyler Bader

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You seem more like a O. Neill Tyler. O being for Orlando…

      • Jack Deth says:
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        @Grey: Octavio?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          That’s even better… Othello?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Oprah! I have a new show for you, btw… Shot in the Dark on Netflix… It’s so good…

          • Jack Deth says:
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            @Grey: hahaha…Ive been watching it the last couple of days. Solid show….

            My “O” name has to be latin

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Oceanus? It’s so good, right? They stepped in crap for the end of the 1st episode… I bet they filmed for months before that happened…

              • Jack Deth says:
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                @Grey: it’s fascinating and kinda hokey. Zach and Steve seem kinda like phonies playing it up for the show.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I didn’t like Zach in the 1st few episodes, but then I started to feel for him when the other douchey guy started packaging clips in episode 3 or 4… the guy with neck tattoos and a Charger is a total douche…

                  • Jack Deth says:
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                    @Grey: I get why he packages them because he got bounced out of the company he started and needs to make a name for himself. Like a street dealer who cuts the competition at the knees. One the other hand he’s the kind of guy who talks about the adversity he goes through not once thinking about the fact that he created the adversity he went through. … Bro I fight through the adversity of my own doing

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh, totally, I’d prolly package too if I were him, but I can see how it really screws the other companies too… plus the packager is a total douche…

                    • Jack Deth says:
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                      It’s a free market and it’s not the douche but the company that over expanded. That’s why they need to drive up the price to pay all those employees.
                      He has a vision of having a monopoly but that ain’t happenin’

                    • Grey

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                      Nah, can’t monopoly that, but I could see how if you have so many people out covering a lot of area, it’s hard to compete with that…

                    • Jack Deth says:
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                      I got issues with both Zach and the douche. Zach says he wants to be a cop but doesn’t like to follow the rules and think outside the rules yet complains when the douche guy packages because you aren’t suppose to do this. Motherfucker you can’t have it both ways.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That’s a fair point, I can see it both ways but the douche guy is so obnoxious I don’t want to see him succeed… plus, if Zack was smart he could package everything, because he has more stringers out on he hunt, then once the douche guy can’t compete, Zach can go back to no packaging…

                    • Jack Deth says:
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                      I aint rooting for the douche either. Im rooting for the brothers

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, easy to root for them

  5. FrankGrimes says:
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    Why the Cards going after Stanton with all these sweet outfielders almost Ready?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, makes no sense…. Happy Thanksgiving, Grimey!

      • FrankGrimes says:
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        @Grey:
        You too!

        • Matt says:
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          @FrankGrimes:

          Because the Cardinals need an upgrade in the middle of the order. They have excess OF, so they can easily trade one or two and the upgrade would be significant enough to justify it. It’s really not that hard to figure out.

  6. Outlet says:
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    1. Is it ridiculous for me to think that Devers could be a top 30 player in an OBP league this year?

    2. Over the next 5 years, who do you like better: Devers or Lindor?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Not ridiculous 2. Lindor

  7. Jack Deth says:
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    I was starting to watch Shot in the Dark this morning but my mind has been wanting to watch Terminator 1 & 2 since yesterday. I cant even focus right now on anything else

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I still have 4 episodes of Shot in the Dark and can’t wait to watch…

      • Jack Deth says:
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        @Grey: Im consumed with the robots taking over…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha, don’t you think it’s fair if we see some advocates for eradication of robot infestation before making a blanket rule?

          • Jack Deth says:
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            @Grey: as long as their is ALWAYS a fail safe built in

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Or we can send Rudy back in time to kill the bots…

              • Jack Deth says:
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                @Grey: I could see Rudy driving a DeLorean around

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  And the Terminator glasses…

                  • Jack Deth says:
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                    @Grey: Maybe is they were flip-ups

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Good call

  8. Matt says:
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    I live about an hour west of Memphis and I go see the Triple A Redbirds all the time as I’m a big Cardinals fan. This kid is for real. I stashed him in my dynasty league two years ago when he exploded at High-A. For anyone wondering about this kid, everything Grey stated is correct. He’s got some swing and miss to his game, but he’s got monstrous power. I’ve seen him hit a couple of moonshots. Not sure he’ll ever hit over .250 and will probably be a .240 hitter overall, but his average has been improving. Good piece Grey. I can only dream Tyler will be the next Bellinger but I wouldn’t say he can’t be either. Honestly, I think Bader gets traded or lost in the shuffle while O’Neal will be called up quickly. The Cardinals are VERY high on him.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Great stuff, thanks Matt!

    • Josh says:
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      @Matt: This year’s Hunter Renfroe seems more appropriate, IMO.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Yeah, that’s prolly more accurate, but we can dream

      • Matt says:
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        @Grey: @Josh:

        That’s a very fair evaluation, but I’m like Grey … we can always hope!!!

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Josh: He walks more in a week than Renfroe does in a season… Big difference as players.

        • Matt says:
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          @Ralph Lifshitz:
          I like the way you think Ralph.

  9. Jack Deth says:
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    When are you headed back? Homemade Mexican pops or some bomb diggity ice cream are right off the freeway

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Right now on road, but this traffic is ridiculous… have to stop another time…

      • Jack Deth says:
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        @Grey: your loss

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I know… Completely was, but there will be more trips to stop during… Today’s was exhausting….

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