So, how’s everyone holding up without baseball every day?  I don’t know what to do with myself!  Yesterday I wandered into a Starbucks and told the coffeerista about Marcus Stroman for 2018.  Then I sobbed into a cheddar scone until someone asked me to leave.  We’ve gone over the final 2017 fantasy baseball rankings for hitters and the top 20 starters.  This is different than Final Fantasy rankings where you rank Final Fantasy 1 thru Final Fantasy 15.  That’s hardcore nerd shizz!  This is simply fantasy baseball, we’re softcore nerds like Emmanuelle is to porn.  So, there’s no more of these godforsaken recap posts left.  You’re welcome.  I, my over-the-internet friend, will be talking next about 2018 rookies.  Anyway, here’s the top 40 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

21. Chase Anderson – You can look at the next few guys like I didn’t rank them so I must be dumb, but no one ranked them, and I prefer to look at these unranked guys as another sign that you shouldn’t draft starters high.  There’s a ton of them to be had in almost all leagues.  Chase Anderson went for about $2 in 12-team NL-Only leagues.  Don’t tell me you couldn’t have grabbed him off waivers in all but the deepest of leagues.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 12-4/2.74/1.09/133

22. Charlie Morton – At 26 years old, Morton had a 5.8 K/9 and a 6.15 ERA, averaging a 91 MPH fastball.  Oh, that was in 2008.  Last year at 33 years old, he had a 10 K/9, 3.62 ERA with a 95 MPH fastball.  Yup, makes sense.  *clears desk, slams head into desk*  Charlie Morton is aging better than Sophia Loren.  By the time, Charlie Morton is 78 years old he will be throwing 147 MPH.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 14-7/3.62/1.19/163

23. Jimmy NelsonChase Anderson?  Still kinda gizzarbage.  Morton and Nelson?  They’ve become different, better pitchers this year.  Nelson is especially interesting because he’s only 28 years old.  He had a 10.2 K/9, 2.5 BB/9, 3.15 xFIP and an unlucky .340 BABIP.  If you go by xFIP, Nelson was the 5th best starter; if you go by K/9, he was the tenth best starter; he was the 4th best starter for xFIP and K/9.  Okay, belaboring a bit, but Nelson’s peripherals say he was easily a top ten starter.  If he had, say, 17 wins, he would’ve been in the top 10 for fantasy too, and you can’t rely on wins.  To further the jazz hands in his direction, he had the 18th best percentage for pitches batters swing at outside the zone; 17th best swinging strike percentage and the 19th lowest percentage of pitches hit outside the strike zone (different than just swung at).  Overall, Nelson’s made a friend in Grey.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  12-6/3.49/1.25/199

24. Jake Arrieta – I debated whether or not to say my calling of Arrieta as overrated was a success or failure, but I’m leaning success.  First, he ended way lower in the recaps than he was projected for in the preseason.  Second, his ERA went from 3.10 to 3.53 from last year to this year.  Third, there’s no third.  Fourth, in the schmohawk post last preseason, I said, “…if we’re drafting him top 30 overall.  We’re looking for a top five starter.  That he won’t be.”  And that’s me quoting me!  That’s succinctly accurate.  Fifth, I was worried about his velocity in that post, and it continued to decline.  Sixth, he had a 4.11 xFIP, which is as bad as when he wasn’t good on the O’s.  Seventh, this Arrietain’ta slam dunk success of a failure.  Preseason Rank #6, 2017 Projections: 17-10/2.98/1.06/196, Final Numbers: 14-10/3.53/1.22/163

25. Aaron Nola – His first two years are so stereotypical for a young pitcher that is about to break out in his 3rd season it should be the case example for grad students at the College of Fantasy Baseball at Charleston.  Oral arguments about his first two years will lead to great make-up sex in the third year.  Preseason Rank #29, 2017 Projections: 10-11/3.46/1.21/161, Final Numbers:  12-11/3.54/1.21/184

26. Yu Darvish – The good news, he wasn’t as bad as he felt for most of the year.  The bad news, he wasn’t that much better.  His Ks went down; he had his worst career xFIP; his homers were up; he wasn’t that unlucky; semi-colons are fun.  At 31 years old, he can likely stay in last year’s realm for another couple of years, but the days of a 11.5+ K/9 are only closer in the rearview mirror.  Preseason Rank #10, 2017 Projections: 15-5/3.04/1.15/239, Final Numbers: 10-12/3.86/1.16/209

27. Trevor Bauer – A Tale of Two Halfs (Halves?).  They were the best of times (3.01 ERA in 2nd half), they were the worst of times (5.24 ERA in 1st half), and they were just unexplainably awesome times (2.93 xFIP in high leverage situations).  At 26 years old, Bauer appears to have come of age and is scaring the Dickens out of hitters.  Preseason Rank #84, 2017 Projections: 11-12/4.01/1.33/163, Final Numbers: 17-9/4.19/1.37/196

28. Chris Archer – His K/9 was 11.2 (5th best for starters) and only a 2.7 BB/9, so Archer’s aim is true.  Did someone say Matt Allahson?  Preseason Rank #13, 2017 Projections: 13-12/3.33/1.17/225, Final Numbers: 10-12/4.07/1.26/249

29. Marcus Stroman – Without innings listed, it’s hard to recognize how yawnstipating Stroman’s season was.  He had a 7.3 K/9, and 164 Ks in 201 IP.  That’s less Ks than Godley who had 46 less innings.  Morton only had one less K than Stroman and he had 64 less innings.  You could say Stroman came up short, and you’d be right in an array of ways.  Preseason Rank #31, 2017 Projections: 12-8/3.55/1.24/184, Final Numbers: 13-9/3.09/1.31/164

30. Jose Quintana – His season stats made me guffaw.  For years, he was the unexciting number two starter that had a high-7 K/9, low-2 BB/9 and a 3.30-ish ERA.  This year doode hit the third rail  of “Hold onto your hat.”  A 9.9 K/9, 4.15 ERA and a near-3 BB/9.  He’s like the kid who entered his senior year of high school with a whole new wardrobe, hairstyle and worked out all summer, i.e., went from total geek to totally chic, then spiraled out of control when the cool kids realize he paid the hot girl to be his girlfriend.  Preseason Rank #21, 2017 Projections: 14-9/3.35/1.20/181, Final Numbers: 11-11/4.15/1.22/207

31. Mike Clevinger – He had 121 2/3 IP, and appeared six times as a reliever, while starting 21 games, so I included him, but it’s a fair time to point out there were 14 RPs higher than him on the Player Rater.  Also, Clevinger’s ERA from May 1st until August 30th was 4.05 in 65 IP.  His 0.99 ERA in September thru 27 1/3 IP really made a huge difference in his year.  Though, it’s also fair to point out, his starter ERA was 2.84 in 114 IP vs. 7.04 as a reliever in 7 2/3 IP.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  12-6/3.11/1.25/137

32. Jose Berrios – He ended up unranked in the preseason, but I originally had him ranked at 86th overall with a 4.12 ERA, when I thought he would break camp with the club.  When he didn’t, I removed him.  Oopsie, or rather, Berrioopsie.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  14-8/3.89/1.23/139

33. Zack Godley – Thinking of Scherzer and Bauer, how long until the Diamondbacks unload Godley for some spare parts?  Hey, at least Edwin Jackson, who they acquired for Scherzer, had a good season.  Unfortch, it was for the Nats.  The Diamondbacks this year could’ve had Bauer, Scherzer and Didi.  Literally, the three things they need.  Hey, at least Dave Stewart didn’t trade Robbie Ray for an undisclosed amount of Cashner.  “If he changes the spelling of his name to $ner, I’ll take him.”  That’s Dave Stewart negotiating.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  8-9/3.37/1.14/165

34. Lance Lynn – Not 100% sure why I projected Lynn for only 120 IP.  I can guess it’s because he was returning from Tommy John surgery, and he wasn’t sure about returning in April.  C’est la vie, as they say in the France part of Epcot.  Preseason Rank #66, 2017 Projections: 9-5/3.65/1.31/109, Final Numbers:  11-5/3.43/1.23/153

35. Jeff Samardzija – Since you know the ulcer that S!^&#&%#$ presents, let’s instead list some of the starters that didn’t make this top 40:  Sonny Gray (!), Jon Lester, McCullers, Danny Salazar, Hendricks, Wacha, Taijuan, Hamels, Bumgarner and Porcello.  Cashner actually finished above Porcello (and Bumgarner).  Samardzija was the 35th best starter, Cueto was the 96th best.  Just chew on that like your dog chews on his flea-infested ass.  Preseason Rank #54, 2017 Projections: 12-10/3.69/1.24/163, Final Numbers: 9-15/4.42/1.14/205

36. Jason Vargas – Here’s one problem with weighing too much on previous year’s rankings.  You’re gonna see Vargas ranked here and think he should be at least the 50th best starter drafted next year, and I’m not sure if he’ll even be as good as the top 100th.  I mean, the 18 wins were nice, but, wow, his other stats were kinda barf.  And not fun barf like John Candy in Spaceballs or when you ralph on a roller coaster.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 18-11/4.16/1.33/134

37. Kenta Maeda – Guys and five girl readers, something you might be thinking:  there were only 34 top starters this year.  You wouldn’t be wrong.  35-40 on this list is ugly.  Preseason Rank #18, 2017 Projections: 15-7/3.39/1.13/198, Final Numbers: 13-6/4.22/1.15/140

38. Dylan Bundy – I went back to look at the 2016 final top 40 starters to see if there this many bleh starters in the top 40.  Short answer is, no way.  Shorter still, Altuve.  Only one starter had a 4+ ERA in the top 40 and that was Archer with 233 Ks ranked 40th overall.  Here, the 27th best starter had a 4+ ERA.  Wow, starters were a mess last year.  Continued in next blurb… Preseason Rank #81, 2017 Projections: 11-9/3.91/1.35/130, Final Numbers: 13-9/4.24/1.20/152

39. Gerrit Cole – He had a 4.43 ERA 1st half and a 5.50 ERA in September, and he’s a top 40 starter?  He was only great for one month, and passable for two months!  Continued in final blurb… Preseason Rank #20, 2017 Projections: 15-10/3.45/1.14/188, Final Numbers: 12-12/4.26/1.25/196

40. Masahiro Tanaka – He’s a top 40 starter with a 4.74 ERA!  Hahahahahaha–Breathe, Grey!  Goddamnit, breathe!  Wow, I almost lost my shizz there.  *sits as an intern brings me a glass of warm milk*  Thank you, intern.  It wasn’t like Tanaka had a ton of wins supplementing that ERA either.  The state of pitching right now makes me think avoid all starters, just go with the Stream-o-Nator and do the “Sosa finger kiss towards the sky” for good luck.  Preseason Rank #23, 2017 Projections: 13-10/3.47/1.13/172, Final Numbers: 13-12/4.74/1.24/194

   
  1. VinWins

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    Can’t Buy Me Love (1987)

    Sophia Loren (1934)

    I wonder what % of your readers know these references compared to the % of readers who recognize your music references.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @VinWins: 13% on CBML and 11% on Sophia Loren, mostly due to Grumpier Old Men.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @VinWins: Wait till we tell Grey that Didi was traded to the Diamondbacks for Bauers, and that Kevin Towers made the trade…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Quintanas version of CBML is titled Can’t Buy Me a World Series after that crazy over pay for the heart of Theo Dumbstein

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @VinWins: There’s a solid .2% that get my movie and music references… Hopefully there’s a little something for everyone…

    • Grey

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      @VinWins: BTW, Mind Hunters is great, takes a bit to get into the story

      • VinWins

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        @Grey: I will definitely give MH a try.

        • Grey

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          You’ll like!

  2. Ralph Lifshitz

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    You’re usually a 5th round starter guy, how late will you go this year? Starters are beginning to feel like catchers.

    • Grey

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      @Ralph Lifshitz: I think you still need a top 15 SP, why you going punting on SPs? BTW, I think at a certain point in the 40-60 range of drafts, you’re gonna be bored by hitter choices and wanna grab an SP anyway

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Grey: Cause you can’t really trust any of them. For example Tanaka was unownable for stretches of the season, but still finished top 40. If you don’t get an ace, just wait till round 7. I might draft closers before a I draft a starter.

        • Grey

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          Might work, but 2 of top 4 RPs (Britton and Aroldis) weren’t great this year either…

          • Ralph Lifshitz

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            @Grey: But you probably still could have traded either of them in Mid-June, and got decent value. The other part is you can add their replacement. I rostered Brach all over.

            If Thor goes down Chris Flexen ain’t replacing him, ya dig?

            I’m obviously talking RCLs. I approach pitching differently in other formats. Ultimately, this is all hypothetical, and it’s about value, but I can’t imagine taking Kershaw at 19 again without pause.

            • Grey

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              I dig, I guess… But you’re saying punt starters so you don’t get Chris Flexen, but if you punt starters and end up with Steven Matz-type, you’re on Flexen anyway, no?

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                @Grey: Ive never bought into nor like the concept that you can trade them at some point. You are putting too many variables together and holding to an expected value that is predicated on someone else’s decision making process. Go with what you can control always and leave the free agent pool to chance and take out the variable of another owners willingness to hit accept.

                • Ralph Lifshitz

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                  @J-FOH: You can’t control starters. They are full of unknown variables. No one has convinced me yet that we should be drafting them in the first 5 rounds.

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                    @Ralph Lifshitz: Im talking about the idea that you can trade someone to build your squad.

                    I think your selection of Kersahw at where you took him was a great pick and I would do it again if it was Sale or Bum, I think Kershaw’s back will be an issue going forward. If he doesnt get hurt you may win perts

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

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                      @J-FOH: You don’t think viewing closers as being tradable assets in RCLs is astute?

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      no I don’t. Its probably the easiest to move but again it depends upon finding an owner that has what you need and them also needing what you have. Yes you may be able to trade them but can you. I prefer to rely on myself and not a trade to win a league

                • Grey

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                  Nah, you can’t rely on trading… hopefully the league is smart enough to avoid bad trades too…

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Grey: But how many people viewed Aroldis for Robbie Ray as a bad deal in June?

                    • Grey

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                      You made that deal?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: as long as JB doesn’t play in it

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Grey: No, but I 100% could have.

                    • Grey

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                      That’s ridiculous… Like saying, I could’ve traded Aroldis for Rhys Hoskins, then traded Hoskins for Olson… Sure, you could’ve but no one did it…

              • Ralph Lifshitz

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                @Grey: Well, no I think you should draft 6-7 hitters first, sure that up, and take someone like Jon Gray or Aaron Nola. Then take starters in that tier with your next two picks. then you don’t have to worry about the Matz’s and you can target closers and the rest of your lineup.

                • Grey

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                  This is still contingent on not ending up with Flexen, no?

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Grey: Flexen was never going to be rostered. The point was, closers get replaced, and you can put in place contingency plans that still give you good innings (Brach, Betances, etc). While playing the matchups off the wire in 12 team mixed is where it’s at for starters. Unlss you get lucky and draft the one starter with a sub 2 ERA in the second half and you can stop streaming.

                    • Grey

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                      Streaming is a nice supplement, still think the key is picking up starters that you can hold is key… I could’ve dropped Nola in the 2nd half after one good start, but instead I had him for 2 1/2 months… You did pick him up and drop him… Did you do better by streaming?

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Grey: Luck, if Nola gives up 5 in consecutive starts you’d drop him.

                    • Grey

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                      Of course, I could’ve dropped him if he did that, but he didn’t… You did drop him right after a good start, didn’t you?

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

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                      @Ralph Lifshitz: Yeah, but it was late June, he broke out right after.

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      @Ralph Lifshitz:

      I echo your concerns. The idea of having top 20 starter stats is nice but if you choose wrong you get stuck running out an under performing Lester week after week.

      Looking at the Top 20 preseason rankings, these are the guys that were drafted as SP1’s:

      Synder, Arrieta, Lester, Cueto, Duffy, Maeda, Salazer.

      Half the guys in the top 20 didn’t deliver to varying degrees. Of course, there are landmines at every position but I am inclined to wait a little longer on SPs next season.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @swaggerjackers: I’ll go a step further, Verlander was nightmare for a half, deGrom was up and down, luckily his jump in Ks saved him. Darvish garbage a lot. The best starter this year was Wavier Wire Add w/ Good Matchups. I’d argue this makes use of the Stream-O-Nator even more important, and I’m not even paid to say that!

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          @Ralph Lifshitz: Agree with Ralph.

          I’ll admit that I didn’t pay up for the SON or tools this year as I have in the past. And the thought about how important they are was on my mind every day I set a lineup.

          I’ll be doing money leagues again next year, whereas this year all my leagues were free. So the tools will certainly be purchased for 2018. This is my pledge.

          I did scoop me some Pigeons on a Table though!!!

          And by the way, I thoroughly enjoyed that read Grey. Thanks again.

          • Grey

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            Thanks!

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        @swaggerjackers: I’m likely with Swaggy J here for next year. Didn’t help that I dropped Verlander in late May or so out of frustration. And my other SP1 was Darvish. If you pick wrong with those, you’re in trouble. Obviously the burn of the Verlander one was my own stupidity.

        Anyways… I couldn’t rely on streams this year likely I usually do. And I’m usually somewhat decent with that. SP was down. Everyone knows that. It just feels good to complain. Thanks for providing that opportunity Razz!

        Hope everyone’s having a lovely October.

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          @knucks: Verlander was a really tricky case last season. He was basically unstartable for a significant stretch then turned it on after he completely burned his owners.

          It certainly is fun to complain about this stuff in hindsight. The people that drafted Kluber, Grenkie and Robbie Ray can’t wait to draft SPs again.

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        @swaggerjackers: to play DA. What if you choose wrong in your strategy? Can you be assured to get all the break outs? Can you be assured the aces will fail. Rankings are a bad predicter of what’s an ace because the expected outcome is based on a lack of injury. Will Kershaw continue to have back issues? Will Lester bounce back after losing his catcher? Aces with at least three years of solid performance are generally what you want because at least the ability to predict them is safer that predicting a breakout. Did anyone see MadBum being a dumb redneck? My point is you have to make choices based on a particular strategy and sticking to it. Sometimes we have flukes and weird injuries. It happens. But abandoning a strategy based on a bizaro year is nuts. I like drafting ace, when the price is right, never to over pay

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          @J-FOH: The risk in my proposed strategy is pretty low, really. I don’t play in leagues deeper than 12 teams. No dynasty, no AL/NL only. If I hold off on pitchers for the first, let’s say, 7 rounds, then I’d be taking my first SP in the 80’s of a 12 teamer. I can throw a bunch of darts at upside guys and SPs being undervalued on whichever site I’m drafting on. We all know Grey will identify some guys in his top 20 that aren’t in the mainstream top 20 so I’m not really not proposing anything too extreme.

          I mentioned this in another post comment but some of the guys current ranked outside the top 100 of ESPN’s “Early 2018 rankings” include Tanaka, Jimmy Nelson, Rich Hill, McCullers, Luke Weaver, Godley, Salazar, Castillo….

          Pair up a combination of those guys with some streamers and I think you can piece together a contender.

          Let’s not forget this approach let’s you load up on offense and a potentially elite RP, if you’re inclined to go that route.

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    Thanks for the recaps Grey. Great stuff as usual.

    Do you think the baseballs will be tightly wrapped again…a continuation of everyone with 25 HRs and Pitchers with 4+ ERAs?

    Also, and this may be more of a nerd/Rudy question, but when doing next year’s projections, what baseline is used when comparing a $1 worth of each category (HRs vs SB vs K’s, etc.)? I guess I mean, since this year was so wacky, but still part of a trend of increasing K’s and increasing HR’s, does Rudy average the last 3 years stats to come up with an estimate of each category’s equivalent $ value?

    Thanks!

    • Grey

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      @Squat Cobbler: I’d be surprised if the baseballs change next year… That is a Rudy question

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    Not to beat a dead horse, BUT while Clevinger has a highbb/9, his whip was reasonably attractive and his k/9 and swing strike rate were very attractive. The guy is a huge breakout candidate, imho. His wonky stats are because he consciously traded B.B./9 for soft contact and Ks. Thoughts?

    • Grey

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      @Bbboston: I don’t disagree, he could break out, some might argue he’s already broken out

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        @Grey:

        Thanks for the comment. To date, most have pointed focussed solely on his B.B./9 and immediately declared a regression is coming. HOWEVER, if you read enough about him you start to pick up comments like:
        – His breaking pi itches are nasty. (Could Kluber have given him help?)
        – “Everything he throws is crooked”.

        These are the telltale signs of a guy who keeps batters off balance and is hard to square up. THEN, with a K/9 of 10+, it could be argued he’s a must keep, even if there is command risk.

        Etc.

        • Grey

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          Yeah, don’t disagree… 10+ K/9 has me interesting on its own…

  5. J-FOH says:
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    One more episode of Tin Star left. I can’t wait til we get to talk about it. Very good show. I was recently having a conversation about the Brewers starters and the big leaps this year. It can’t all be an outlier or maybe call it an outliar. Sounds like an off season investigative piece for your pitching fire over there. Sorry ralph for adding more work for you… if grey assigns it to you

    • Grey

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      Sounds like a piece for Lance… Mind Hunter is great, you should definitely watch next… You need to give it two episodes tho, the 1st episode is super slow and really all setup…

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        @Grey: I’ll convine the young buck. You know me, I’m an ideas man! I wish I was a confidence man….

        It’s totes mcNext. I usually give stuff a few episodes any way. But seriously the first five minutes of Tin Star are a really punch to the mouth. Maybe I’m over hyping or maybe I want Vin I’m on this, cause you know….Canadians

        • Grey

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          Glad you’re recommending Tin Star, because if it wasn’t for you, I never would’ve heard of it

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: its amazing how many people don’t have amazon. I think they have some of the best original content that isn’t a documentary.

            • Grey

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              Agreed, I prefer my fire stick over my Apple TV too, easier to get around on the menus, etc

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I have my Samsung smart 4K TV in my room and that is the best. One simplistic remote navigates me around and the last 5 things watched per app pop up when I hit the home button. It takes the lazy to an all new level

                • Grey

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                  Speaking of which, why can’t Netflix figure out not to suggest things you just watched?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: duuuuuuuuuuude. SHit is crazy annoying. Or you watch two similar shows then they make suggestions for both and you get almost identical lists and then somethings on the list that have absolutely nothing related on it. Im not sure what the Alien files have to do with my Tom Petty documentary….unless he was really an alien and he will come back to us with Jesus

                    • Grey

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                      Haha, exactly… I wonder all the time why Netflix doesn’t fix this too because you know they’d be able to prolly pretty easily… I almost wonder if they’ve figured out that so many people share passwords that while you might’ve watched it, someone else with your password may not have…

        • VinWins

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          @J-FOH: I haven’t found where Tin Star is available in Canada yet, so It might take me a while to get to it.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @VinWins: They may not let you with a Canadian oil company being the bad guy

            • VinWins

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              @J-FOH: So it is not a realistic portrayal.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @VinWins: do you work for a Canadian oil company and is my life in danger?

                • VinWins

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                  @J-FOH: Ha! I’ll just send some literature to educate you.

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @VinWins: I hope his name isn’t literature

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    Is Nola a top 15 pitcher next year?

    • Grey

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      I’ll say top 22-25 right now, but maybe top 15, will need to look at him more closely

  7. Alan says:
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    In NL only, do you see Chase Anderson as a top 15 guy next year? Does he improve or regress?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No way

  8. Alan says:
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    I meant top 15 SP in NL only.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      As I say in this post, I’m not an Anderson fan… Top 15 is high

      • Alan says:
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        @Grey: Gotcha

  9. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Sort of insane how bad the pitching gets before even 40. Even scarier when you look at the preseason Top 20 and see that maybe half of those guys (if not more) disappointed, often by a lot.

    This all has me thinking about the same strategy you mentioned, with at tweak . . . draft/overpay for a top 3 SP, then roll with the $1-$3 + waiver arms. There’s certainly the risk of that top SP getting into an ATV accident or having an ailing back, etc. . . . but it feels less than the risk of general variance among that next tier of aces from year to year.

    This year, I had Archer/Cueto in one, Duffy/Gerrit Cole in another, and Yu/Salazar in the third–none ended too well on that front + were saved by lucky waiver grabs.

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      Guys like C-Mart, Nola and Carrasco will be available around top 50 is my guess and will be fine, and won’t force you to have a top 3 SP

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: That’s a good point. Those guys were my sweet spot this year . . . and saving that money on the ace does leave more for the top bats (much more predictable of course), so there’s always that.

        • Grey

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          Yeah, better off with the top bat

  10. Tim says:
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    I need a little help. Would you rather have Hoskins/Keller or Eloy Jimenez and Senzel . I own the Hoskins side. I’m 8th out of 10, and won’t compete for probably next 1-2 years.

    • Grey

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      Hoskins side

  11. Aj says:
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    I for one wouldn’t be high on Nelsen coming off. Of surgery.

    • Grey

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      Oh, that’s right, forgot about that, good call!

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