Went over the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball and top 10 for 2012 fantasy baseball.  Now, friends, it’s time for the top 20 catchers for 2012 fantasy baseball.  In the past, the top 20 catchers were the glass of warm milk right before you went to sleep.  “Hey, I just drafted A.J. Pierzynski!”  Snooze.  “I love Kurt Suzuki this year!”  Yawn.  But this year, for the first time in a while, there’s actually some catchers that could get your nethers moving.  I don’t draft top catchers in one catcher leagues.  Because I ignore the top catchers doesn’t mean I’m starting the top 20 catcher list at number twenty-one (Carlos Ruiz?  Belch.); some of you might want to know the top catchers.  You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them draft Chris Iannetta.  In two catcher leagues, catchers are a little more valuable, but I’d still prefer to avoid them.  You can see other top 20 lists for 2012 fantasy baseball under 2012 Fantasy Baseball Rankings.  Listed along with these catchers are my 2012 projections for each player and where the tiers begin and end.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 catchers for 2012 fantasy baseball:

1. Carlos Santana – This is the first tier.  This tier goes from here until Mike Napoli.  I call this tier, “You wanna draft a top catcher?  Be my guest!”  Last year, The Supernatural hit 27 homers.  Makes sense.  He stole 5 bags.  Sounds about right.  He hit .239.  Huh?  Does not compute.  Must investigate.  His walk rate tanked from 19.3% to 14.7% and his strikeout rate jumped from 15.1% to 20.2%.  He was a bit unlucky, but his average can’t be explained away by that.  His line drive rate fell, ground ball rate shot up and his infield flies went up.  The assumption around most parts are he’s going to repeat his homers, counting stats and bounce back in the average department in a big way.  He’s talented and young enough for that to happen, but I wouldn’t wager on it.  This is also a whole lot of hot air cause I’d take his last year with a small bump on average and be more than happy.  That’s if I were to draft Santana, which I would not unless he fell.  I don’t draft top catchers.  2012 Projections:  80/25/90/.260/5

2. Brian McCann – The string of me ranking McCann first overall for catchers has come to an end.  Trust me, I tried to justify moving him up for longer than I’d care to admit.  Okay, I’ll admit I only thought it over for three minutes.  But those three minutes were underwater so it felt a lot longer.  What ended up having me leave Carlos Santana above McCann is Santana is younger and has already hit more homers in one season than McCann ever has.  Now, the one thing that has me still as a non-apologetic McCann apologist is he’s only 28 years old and, deep in my loins, I really believe McCann’s gonna hit 30 homers one of these years, and if it’s gonna be any year it may as well be his 28-year-old season, and this is the longest run-on sentence ever, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, I checked.  2012 Projections:  70/25/85/.275/3

3. Matt Wieters – At some point last year I felt as if people weren’t appreciating Wieters, and I began to like him.  It’s tough always swimming against the tide!  Unlike Santana, Wieters actually cut his K-rate and was a bit unlucky to end up with only a .262 average.  He made more solid (solider?) contact last year pushing up his line drive rate while cutting his ground balls.  To throw a random name at you, I think Wieters outperforms Ike Davis in 2012.  To throw a more random name out at you — Mitzi Gaynor.  2012 Projections:  80/24/85/.280

4. Mike Napoli – I hope Mike appreciates I was here for him even when his own manager didn’t want to play him.  When someone needs a makeover, I simply have to takeover.  Nothing is gonna stop Napoli from being pop-ewe-ler…LAR!  That was for our three girl readers.  If any of you ladies like mustaches, dial 1-800-G-R-E-Y-S-T-U-D.  With that said (here comes the negative), Napoli just had his best season.  It was a good one too.  I’m happy for him.  I’m happy for his mom’s nipples.  Still doesn’t change the fact that I need to think about 2012 and not 2011.  The power shouldn’t fall off the map like the earth is flat, but 30 homers is the ceiling.  The bigger problem is his average.  The only time he ever had more than 500 plate appearances in a season he hit .238.  Sadly, that’s repeatable for him.  2012 Projections:  60/25/70/.250/3

5. Buster Posey – This is the next tier.  This tier goes from here until Jesus Montero.  I call this tier, “They could be the top catchers, but they’re not.  Go figure!” From early mock drafts that I’ve seen (I’ve looked y’all!), Posey’s still being overdrafted.  My man could miss three seasons and still get drafted high.  You know, like Joe Mauer.  Posey does seem like the only thing holding him back is avoiding freak injuries (no connection to Lincecum).  But, you know what, I’d like to see him avoid these freak injuries prior to me drafting him anywhere near where he’s going.  2012 Projections:  65/20/75/.300

6. Alex Avila – I expect he’ll have the same exact year in 2012 as he had in 2011.  Yay.  Moving on.  Okay, I’ll say more.  As my life coach tells me, expectations lead to disappointment.  So my expectations are Avila will repeat last year, but he’s also very young (25).  He only has one and three-quarters of a season in the majors.  So does that make him a super sophomore?  Well, hopefully he doesn’t have a super sophomore slump.  See what I did there?  Don’t light that match, I’m cooking with gas!  2012 Projections:  60/19/75/.280/3

7. Joe Mauer – People who still draft this guy high are either more trusting than me or idiots.  It’s well established at this point he’s never repeating his year of 28 homers from 2009.  Frankly, I’d like to see him hit 10 homers again, and don’t call me Frank Lee.  2012 Projections: 80/10/85/.310/3

8. Miguel Montero – What separates Miguel Montero from Jesus Montero?  M-I-G-U-E-L.  C’mon, that was easy.  Oh, and upside.  If you don’t want to take the chance on Jesus’s ability to walk on water and prefer the safer bet, I could see just going for the less flashy Montero.  2012 Projections:  60/17/75/.270

9. Jesus Montero – I had already went over my Jesus Montero 2012 fantasy.  It went something like this blah blah blah I’m smart blah blah blah I’m smart.  Now the post reads like I’m the King of Wishful Thinking after Cashman told him to Go West.  (There’s a terrible 90’s pop song pun in there.  I apologize.) The trade of Montero/Pineda wasn’t great for either player’s fantasy value.  Though it’ll turn out worse for Pineda in the short term.  For Montero, the M’s have a whole lot fewer DH/catcher options so this should actually help him retain (gain?) catcher eligibility a lot easier.  It’s going to hurt his power a tad.  In the Yankees lineup, I had his projections as 70/20/85/.290.  With 677 ABs in the leadoff spot, Ichiro only had 80 runs, so you can see Montero’s counting stats are gonna take a hit.  Also, Safeco, like all -co parks, is no hitter haven.  So you’re going to get a guy that actually can play catcher for fantasy but will have less production.  (Note: He may not have catcher eligibility to start the year, so be very, very careful.  Or not.  Your choice.  I do think he gets the eligibility quickly on the M’s though.)  2012 Projections: 55/17/70/.285

10. Geovany Soto – This is the next tier.  This tier goes from here until Arencibia.  I call this tier, “Low averages and catnip for kidnappers, but I’ll draft them.”  Seriously, are the good catchers going to go on forever?  How deep is this mother-effin’ position this year?  It’s a brand new day, Sting.  “Get your cousins and marry them cause catchers are breeding up in here like rabbits!”  That’s the guy at your draft talking who you can’t believe you were once close friends with.  I’m getting slightly tired of trusting Soto, but he comes at a decent price and I feel like there’s gotta be one season in his bat of neutral luck where he hits for a decent-enough average and power.  Why not this year?  Then we can all say Theo Epstein was the reason and Michael Lewis can write a book about it.  2012 Projections:  60/18/75/.260

11. Wilson Ramos – Okay, stop with all these catchers.  My heart can’t handle it.  They’re all so beautiful.  If you can’t tell, I’m drafting a catcher from this tier if things work out the way they should at drafts.  Last year, Ramos hit 15 homers but that was in only 113 games/389 at-bats.  Extra 100 ABs shouldn’t be hard to come by with a few extra dingers, but I do think Ramos’s owners will not only need to wear ski masks, but will need to set him and forget him as learned in The Ron Popeil School of Catcher Management.  2012 Projections:  55/18/70/.270

12. J.P. Arencibia – You win, catchers!  You are one sexy position this year.  It’s like I’m looking at you in a red-lit room in Amsterdam and can’t decide which one of you I want to screw me.  J.P. which stands for “Just the facts, Paul” looks like a young Napoli.  Now if only his manager would bench him for four of five days the circle will be complete.  Arencibia probably won’t hit above .240 (his K-rate was 27.4%; that’s crazy terrible), but if we join hands and pray maybe, just maybe, he can hit .245.  2012 Projections:  50/21/70/.235

13. Devin Mesoraco – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Suzuki.  I call this tier, “Sexy names with no track record and unsexy names with track records.”  Devin’s one of those sexy names I mentioned about fifteen words ago.  I already went over my Devin Mesoraco 2012 fantasy.  I wrote it while picking lint from between my toes.  2012 Projections:  55/18/65/.280 (<–Optimistic, but whatever)

14. Salavador Perez – UPDATE:  INJURY.  DON’T DRAFT. He will only be 21 years old to start the season.  At catcher, there’s an old credo that I just made up right now that maybe people say but I’m not aware of it.  It goes something like this, “Catchers take a few years to get used to catching and hitting at the major league level.  It’s not an easy position to just jump into.”  Wearing a pithy helmet with that one, I tell ya.  So, as a 21-year-old, you’re going to have some growing pains with Perez.  Incredibly, he has been playing pro ball since 2007 and he makes solid contact.  Could I have ranked Yadier here instead?  Sure, but what fun is that?  2012 Projections:  50/10/65/.280

15. Jarrod Saltalamacchia – I like to think Saltymochachino is a nice bridge between the sexy names in this tier and the unsexy names.  I’m being too generous.  He’s not sexy.  Saltymochachino’s had 5 years to be sexy and he still looks like Phyllis Diller first thing in the morning.  Last year his K-rate was so absurdly bad (30.8%) that he shouldn’t have a starting job.  As of this writing (around December 8th at 4:23 PM), he still did.  Holy crap, it’s now December 12th at 5:35 PM!  Damn, I have to work on typing faster.  Wait, now it’s December 13th and Shoppach just landed in Boston.  Maybe slow typing isn’t bad after all!  Kelly Shoppach will steal time from Salty, but for now Salty looks good for some cheap power and maybe he’ll luck into a decent average.  I mean, Napoli did hit .320 last year.  In.  Sane.  (Yeah, I did that douchey one word into two sentences thing.)  2012 Projections:  45/15/60/.220

16. Ryan Doumit – And just like that the catchers get even less sexier.  Wha’ happened?!  I went over my Ryan Doumit 2012 fantasy already.  I wrote it on the wall of my cell.  If Doumit can scrounge together 500 plate appearances, he could be as valuable as Joe Mauer.  Before you laugh, think to yourself why you’re laughing?  Because you think I’m dumb?  That’s not very nice.  2012 Projections:  45/14/55/.260

17. Russell Martin – Technically, he should be ranked higher than this if he just repeats last year, but there’s the pickle juice that kills you. (Snopes confirmed!)  Martin’s not repeating last year.  If he gets 12 homers, I’ll run around my office naked.  Though, I do work from home and don’t own clothes, so it’s not much of a bet.  2012 Projections:  50/10/60/.240/9

18. Jonathan Lucroy – When you look at Lucroy’s age (25), you think sexy.  Yeah, he doesn’t look like anything other than a Yadier Molina clone, but — and like J. Lo this is a big but — Lucroy’s young enough to maybe fill out a little and add a few more homers.  When you’re this deep, you go for upside and not for Molina. (Notice how I keep talking about Molina but have yet to rank him?  That’ll all change soon.)  2012 Projections:  50/13/60/.260/3

19. Yadier Molina – Hey, is that Diego Rivera catching?  No!  Doc Ock?  Nope!  It’s the other Molina!  Yeah, he’s boring as dog balls.  If you draft Yadier Molina as your catcher, this tells me you don’t care enough to at least draft someone with some upside.  Shame on you and the horse you rode in on.  Beautiful horse, though.  Very regal.  You must watch Downton Abbey.  2012 Projections:  45/9/50/.280/5

20. Kurt Suzuki – Do me a favor and don’t draft him.  How’s dem apples?  Sour!  Suzuki’s never hit more than 15 homers and hasn’t hit above .242 in two years.  You’re expecting a miracle in a crappy lineup in a terrible ballpark?  Maybe Hatteberg can come out of retirement and drive him in 120 times.  You’d like that cause you need happy endings.  Well, then go get a massage!  2012 Projections:  50/12/55/.240/3

After the top 20 catchers for 2012 fantasy baseball there’s a lot of names, but these two stand out:

Victor Martinez – He was originally ranked 6th, but now he has a torn ACL. What a debACLe!  Oh, God, that is rich.  Sounds like he’s gonna miss the whole season, unless you believe in mirACLes.  Seriously, effin’ rich!  2012 Projections: nothing/but/doo/dee

Chris Iannetta – If I knew the Sciosciapath were definitely going to give Iannetta 500 plate appearances, I’d be more excited about drafting him.  But what the hey?!  It’s a catcher; I’ll still take a flyer and see where he goes.  Something no one seems to talk about in their rankings.  You could put “Undecided” ranked 12th on every list and still do fine as long as you don’t take “Undecided” for every position.  Now if you were to draft “Undeclared” you’d be in trouble.  I keed!  Or do I?  No, I do.  To talk you out of drafting Iannetta, even though I think the point is to talk you into drafting him, he’s out of Coors and his home/away splits look like a mural made of turd.  Turd, turd, turd, turd is the word!  Damn, now that’s stuck in my head.  Last three years — he’s hitting .171 in away games.  Whatever, I don’t care if his away average is floating in the toilet waiting for someone to flush it like Lawrence Taylor’s post-football career.  I placed him here to highlight him, but I’d rank him right above Arencibia because a flyer at catcher is fine.  Turd, turd, turd, turd is the word!  Now it’s stuck in your head too.  Sucker!  2012 Projections:  55/16/65/.245/5

  1. LA Sound Guy says:

    Blah Blah Blah, sermon on the mound. I’m thinking Jesus has a chance to lead all catchers in ABs. You? I likes me some catcher ABs.

  2. TheNewGuy says:

    Not had a chance to read it all through yet, but the one ranking that stood out was my boy Wieters ranked so high.

    Now I’ve got a dilemma (word of the day!) in my keeper league where we play only 1C and I’ve currently got Avila and Wieters on my books (both $6). Going by their rankings/projections, it would seem im definately better off keeping one of them and Wieters would seem to be your choice. Would you go along with that, and if so how many years would you give Wieters to keep? 1 yr = $9, 2yrs= $12, 3yrs= $14…has he enough potential to warrant a longer deal?

  3. TheNewGuy says:

    @TheNewGuy: Oh and think I better mention my league’s an OBP league too which might change things.

  4. Tony says:

    25 HRs, 5 sbs and a .260 average is the best catcher, that right there screams, Dont draft a catcher until LATE. Im pretty sure i can find similar on the waiver wire this year…. catchers suck. end of story.

  5. Trick dad says:

    Dynasty league- alvarez or chisenhall at 3b?

  6. Mike says:

    I like McCann in the fifth round, but I will settle for Ramos in the 12th

  7. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    Two things stick out to me here…

    1. I’m happy for his mom’s nipples.

    2. 2012 Projections: nothing/but/doo/dee

    YES! and YES!

    I’m pumped about Salvador Perez this year. Think he’s really under rated. 90% of the people who use your rankings will most likely get him, because you have him ranked higher than most other sites i’ve seen.

    I applaud you sir, i applaud you.

  8. dingbat says:

    Happy Birthday, Grey!

    It’s nice to see that 2012 rankings have begun. I think I side with the masses on Avila (currently the 8th drafted catcher at mockdraftcentral) because I don’t think he comes close to sniffing that AVG again. If his BABIP regresses, he’s looking more like Soto or even Arencibia.

  9. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: I think the official word (re: the new Project Runway crew) is so that past interactions won’t have an affect on the judge/contestant relationship for this season.

    While that’s probably partly true, I’m guessing that an “All-Star” season has to be put together differently than other seasons, and producers couldn’t make it work (thanks, Tim Gunn) with most of the judges’ schedules. I also wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if this is an audition of sorts because one or more current judge’s price tag is getting too steep.

  10. TheNewGuy says:

    “This is a new tier. This tier goes from here until Suzuki. I call this tier, “Sexy names with no track record and unsexy names with track records.”

    LOL love it Grey.

  11. Grey

    Grey says:

    @LA Sound Guy: Could happen, but as I said in his blurb, Ichiro had almost 700 ABs and still had terrible counting stats.

    @TheNewGuy: 2 years would be fine, but I don’t know your other options besides those two catchers.

    @Tony: Ha

    @Trick dad: Chisenhall

    @Mike: Yup

    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: Thanks!

    @dingbat: Thanks, booboo!

    @Awesomus Maximus: I’m sure it’s a hefty price tag, but it makes for a lame show. Mizrahi wants to be Kors so bad.

    @TheNewGuy: Thanks!

  12. Derek in Utah says:

    Just say no to Pickle-Juice!!

    btw, Avila will continue what he did last year.

    (See what I did there?)

  13. Catchers blow. I will draft one 20 rounds in and hope to not spontaneously combust. Again.

  14. Nick says:

    In a vacuum, in a Keeper, Posey or Heyward? Help me Grey Kanobi, you’re my only hope.

  15. Wake Up says:

    Wow. Mitzi Gaynor. That brings me back to the South Pacific, which was a great flick, probably.
    I watched a pretty good documentary last night that got me thinking. You wouldn’t like me when I’m thinking, but anyway as John Popper so aptly said. It got me to thinking that a certain mustachioed all brightened one could actually be a middle aged woman from Michigan who has created all these different personalities such as: royce!, steve, simply fred, awesomus maximus, tony, chata, and so on. And that she just posts back and forth to herself all day, creating all these conversations and personality nuances. Well done, sir, uh ma’am, or whoever you are. My only question is, how did you create me? Without me knowing. You’re good!

  16. Captainpyper says:

    I believe Grey will own Jesus Montero and Iannetta in all his 2 catcher leagues. Why? Because he wrote the most about those two which PROVES he clearly loves them more than all the other schmohawks. Joey Mauer gets only 4 lines?!?! He hates him!

  17. Derek in Utah says:

    Grey, you’ve GOTTA get me into one of your leagues. I’ve been searching for a good one for a few years now, and yes my track record speaks for itself.

  18. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Derek in Utah: Nice

    @Fman99: Ha

    @Nick: Unlimited years? Heyward

    @Wake Up: Who am I, Daniel Johnston? I saw a great documentary about football (I know!). Called Two Days in April.

  19. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Captainpyper: Ha, interesting take. Or there’s more to say about them than Mauer who already has a lot written on him.

  20. Captainpyper says:

    I will own Jesus Montero everywhere and underwear. He hit 9/4/12 .328 in September! If you extrapolate that over a 9 month season you get a sizzling line of 81R 36HR 108RBI!!!!!!

    maybe thats too much? Well then hes definitely matching Miguel Cabreras first full season of 101/33/112 .294 Thank you for telling us exactly what we were getting Brian Cashman.

  21. Random Collmenter says:

    Wieters 3rd?!?! That shit Grey.

  22. anarchy burger says:

    quick keeper question
    5×5 15 team mixed league
    i only get to keep 3 guys and i’m torn on my 3rd guy. i’m keeping longoria and kershaw already

    kemp for 40 or c santana for 18. i’m thinking kemp. is that the right choice???

  23. Wake Up says:

    @Grey: Nah, that was a good one too though. I like the song “Casper the Friendly Ghost” from him.http://youtu.be/HBHhCRH9m3c
    Two days in April sounds like something that would be on at 3am on cinemax…but that’s impossible because then I would have seen it already and I haven’t. I’ll have to check it out.
    The other one was catfish.

  24. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: @Wake Up: Kors has his own Lifetime Achievement Award… Mizrahi has his own aisle at Target.

    I liked that documentary quite a bit, Wake Up, but you just hung a matzo ball of a spoiler out there. Can’t very well recommend it now without attaching that spoiler to it. I think it’s probably a good watch even with that spoiler knowledge, but still…

  25. Wake Up says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: You’re right. That’s why I didn’t mention the name in the first place, hoping people who saw it would get it, without spoiling it for those who hadn’t. I should’ve left it at that. How’s your penis?

  26. Steve says:

    I don’t see Hundley here. He’s in NZ at the moment on one of those MLB tours. I’m gonna go tell him.

  27. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    Catchers today… which means first base rankings tomorrow.!!!!!!

    wish i had stewie’s time machine.

  28. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wake Up: Ha! Yeah, more like Spice Channel, is that around still?

    @Awesomus Maximus: The host, with her head nods and shoulder motions, even makes me miss Klum. And Coles is a waste of space. “This could be very interesting. Or not. We’ll see.”

    @Steve: My dad was just in NZ wine tasting, and he does go to San Diego a lot on business… Hmm… My dad’s Nick Hundley!

    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: Ha!

  29. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    This whole “Yu Darvish” thing is P’ing me off. I have ogando and protected him in one of my keeper leagues. Now they’re saying he’s going to the bullpen…. blasphemy.

    I hope he pushes old man nathan for the closer role… forget mike adams.

  30. Grey

    Grey says:

    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: Where did they say he’s going to middle relief? I can’t imagine they spend that kind of money for a MR.

  31. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Wake Up: Just drop Grey a “random” movie reco in a month or two and he’ll have completely forgotten the spoiler by then. Penis is doing well… no burping for a few days now. Kinda’ miss the novelty of it all.

    @Grey: Yeah, I’m only here for the designers this season. Forget the judges… no Tim Gunn!

  32. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: I’m the process of forgetting everything Wake Up said. Not to mention, Coles has no personality or is afraid to show it. Probably the latter since she strikes me as a b**ch. Not exactly someone you look at for a mentor.

  33. Steve says:

    Cust playin’.

    He signed with the Astros.

  34. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Those Astros just became the favorite for the World Series. Gotta love when people put on Facebook “HBD,” very heartfelt when you have to abbreviate it.

  35. Steve says:

    @Grey: Yeah, that’s pretty touching.

    Like someone was running past their computer and they didn’t have time to type anything else.

  36. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Grey: It’s almost as touching as abbreviating thanks with thx. So…many…letters…can’t…type…them…all…

  37. Jay29 says:

    @Grey: Love your take on things, but I’m surprised you’re down (compared to most) on Napoli this year. You end up giving him basically the same projections as you did last year. Barring a new acquisition (read: Prince), he gets ABs basically every day at either C, 1B, or DH, because Ron W likes him. Napoli has, by all accounts, shaken the “offense only” tag as a catcher, too.

    So with that lineup and regular ABs, even batting 7th he should have no problem approaching 70 R, 85 RBI. Obviously his BA is gonna drop, but probably only into the realm of 80% of the other catchers. Of course I’m keeping him at $8 so I’m biased.

    Also, this was too funny to resist: “his move to the Rangers ups his power a bit, but he’s not suddenly going to hit for .300.” That’s me quoting you!

  38. Steve says:

    @Grey: BTW and IMHO I agree, FWIW.

  39. KP says:

    I have to finally admit (long-time listener, first time caller) that your ability to analyze is matched only by your wits. If I were to use “dim” as a reference, this would be a back-handed compliment, but I’m not per se because I fear “stache” backlash. No, but seriously you should be getting paid for this-that’s how skilled you are. Grey is more knowledgeable, more entertaining, and far more likable than any analyst in sports. There, I said it. And that’s right, I said: “in sports”. The statement wasn’t fantasy specific. Keep up the good work my man. Very rarely do I look forward to anything (“Breaking Bad” maybe), but your posts are that thrilling. It reminds me of my “90210” phase. Sure, I was young and immature, but quality is still quality. In other words, your mustache is to fantasy sports what Luke Perry’s sideburns were to teenage girls everywhere. If I could sign your yearbook right now, that’s what I would write. That’ll do pig, that’ll do.

  40. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Jay29: Hehe… Yeah, I like him, but he’s just too overpriced this year. Not at $8 obviously.

    @Steve: YTMND!

    @KP: Thanks so much for the kind words!

  41. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: I don’t think Coles is there to be a mentor. These are supposedly established talents, not fresh-faced newbies. I’m really not sure what her role is… and I don’t think she is sure, either.

    What puzzles is me is how the Editor-in-Chief of a major publication has the time to do anything else.

  42. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: Agreed, and I don’t think she has the time which is part of the issue. She looks like she’s getting a 15 minute prep from the producers before, “Okay, Kenley’s using pink again, ask her why? Scarlet is known for couture ask if there’s added pressure.” And she’s out the door 15 minutes later.

  43. Blue Bomb says:

    I’m in the 19th round of a 16-team mixed H2H non-keeper OBP league. I took Jesus Montero a while back but I need a guy who I know will catch (speaking of him what do you think of his eligibility issue now that he’s a Mariner?).

    The only ones left are picks 14-20 on your list minus Martin and Montero. I’m feeling Lucroy or Doumit would be the best choice, but what do you think? Both of ’em give me similar output in HR/SB with the Brewers getting me more R/RBI from the former. Doumit edges out in OBP but he’s probably only going to end up with 400-ish PA.

    This is my team so far: http://pastebin.com/vEVKAM4d
    I’m pretty happy with it considering it’s my first ever draft.

  44. Steve says:

    Moyer signs with Rockies. Apparently the thin air at Coors makes his fastball seem more like 82 than 72.

  45. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Blue Bomb: I say in the post what I think of his eligibility issue. I can’t look at teams with links. If you want to post the team in the comments or forum, I’ll look at it. If I start looking at everyone’s team with a link, I’ll spend all day clicking back and forth.

  46. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Wow, that’s huge (for all hitters facing him).

  47. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    @Grey: Did Napoli’s “lingering” ankle injury affect your ranking of him at all?

    just curious.

  48. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    @Grey: and sorry, i think you misinterpreted my post at # 30. Darvish isn’t going to the bullpen, Ogando (most likely) is. Unless they trade someone. They put Ogando in the pen at the end of last year, so i think he would be the obvious candidate, and he already said that he would willingly go back.

  49. Hawk says:

    Why drafting catchers early is a mistake:

    #6 Alex Avila projection

    #18 Jonathan Lucroy projection

    Their ADP’s will probably be 10-15 rounds apart. Is that worth 10 R, 6 HR, 15 RBI and 20 points on the BA? I do not think so. I don’t even think it’s close.

  50. royce! says:

    Just noticed an interesting pattern in Joakim Soria’s peripherals:

    K/9 BB/9
    9.78 2.48
    8.82 2.54
    11.72 2.72
    9.73 2.19
    8.95 2.54

    If I’m reading this sequence right, the next K/9 should be somewhere around 11.72. Which is the reason I will be drafting him. Dropping SCIENCE!!!

  51. royce! says:

    @royce!: actually, it’s more like math. Dropping MATH!!!

  52. sandles says:

    if you are mocking at couchmamager.com
    Alex Availa is going in the early 8th
    While you can wait till after the 18th round and snag Geovany Santo

  53. Jay29 says:

    @Hawk: According to baseballmonster.com, with 2011 stats similar to Grey’s projections, Avila returned a value about 20 rounds better than Lucroy last year. Those stat differences are actually pretty significant. If you call Lucroy a replacement player or last-round draftee, Avila’s numbers would easily be worth getting in like the 10th-12th round (assuming Grey’s projections come true). Position scarcity is real!

    I’d say the only benefit to drafting Lucroy is that you could be the first person to jump on the waiver wire for this year’s version of Avila. And that’s far from a given.

  54. Blue Bomb says:

    Ah sorry about that. My team:
    C –
    1B – Albert Pujols (1)
    2B – Sean Rodriguez (18)
    3B – Michael Young (4)
    SS – Elvis Andrus (5)
    OF – Josh Hamilton (2)
    OF – Nick Swisher (6)
    OF – Austin Jackson (15)
    UTIL – Jesus Montero (7)
    UTIL – Chase Headley (14)

    SP – CC Sabathia (3)
    SP – Brandon Beachy (9)
    RP – Ryan Madson (10)
    RP – Jason Motte (11)
    P – Tim Hudson (8)
    P – Jaime Garcia (12)
    P – Shaun Marcum (13)
    P – Francisco Rodriguez (16)

    BN – Jim Johnson (17)
    BN – R.A. Dickey (19)
    BN –
    BN –
    BN –

    16 team mixed non-keeper H2H (5×5 but with OBP instead of AVG) with lineups set daily. I’m planning to take a catcher with my next pick, and I’ll probably take Lucroy. How do you usually allocate your bench spots? Should I go with four pitchers and a multiple-position guy to make up for offdays? I also feel like I should draft for some more SBs. I’m hoping Montero will get his eligibility within the first month so I can slide him in. Also, this is my first draft; it’s offline and snake-style, so I draft 3rd in odd rounds and 14th in even.

  55. Ned Shakeshaft says:

    @Blue Bomb: take a catcher last. You only need one for a week or so, and you’re into the replacement level guys now anyways.

    You could use backup IFs and OFs more. Any full time guys at this point, if they have multi-position eligibility, even better. Speed-only guys kinda suck in H2H, but you can’t be too picky at this stage.

  56. Ned Shakeshaft says:

    Hey, my wife called but it started ringing at 1-800-GREY-STU. Said he don’t advertise.

    I’ll take Wieters around #80-90 any day. Looks pretty durable and far more likely to take a big step forwards than back.

  57. Hawk says:


    Lets say, for sake of this discussion, that Avila is an 8th round pick and Lucroy is an 18th round pick. This is how I look at it

    Is Avila + 18th round value total stats >. <, or = to Lucroy + 8th round value total stats.

    You're saying that there is not more than 10 R, 3 HR, 15 RBI and 20 BA points of difference in those 10 rounds? I'd say that's wrong.

  58. madx34 says:

    mauer still makes me moist!!—but i probably won’t draft him

  59. Scott says:

    Is posey worth keeping if I have him for very cheap?

  60. Spudchukar says:

    Yadier Molina at #19, brilliant Einstein. Last year only Alex Avila had a higher OPS+ among all catchers in MLB. Plus he is in the lineup much more often than the losers you have rated higher.

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