Jacob Turner | RHP (SP) | Detroit Tigers | D.o.B: 5/21/91 | 6’5″ | 210 lbs | B/T: R/R | 1st rd, 2009 | DET #1 ranked prospect per Baseball America 2011 | MiLB Player Page

One of my favorite young arms in the minors. Turner has the perfect frame to continue developing into a power pitcher. He throws both a two and four-seam fastball sitting between 92-94 MPH and peaking at 96 MPH with heavy sink. In addition, there is a 12-to-6 curve that continues to be refined into a hammer-curve, along with a changeup that projects to be slightly above average. Mechanically speaking, he has a smooth, clean and fluid delivery. Able to mix pitches well and throws with polish expected in more experienced veterans. He’ll need to continue to fill out his frame and develop stamina to pitch late into games. At the current time, there isn’t any concerns about his injury history. Projects as a high-ceiling number one or two starter.

Career Stats (inc. 2011): 7.8 K/9 | 1.9 BB/9 | 168 2/ IP | 3.04 ERA | 1.09 WHIP | .6 Hr/9 | 7.9 H/9
2011 Stats (AA): 7.4 k/9 | 2.0 BB/9 | 53 1/3 IP | 2.53 ERA | 3.75 FIP | 1.01 WHIP | .7 Hr/9 | 7.1 H/9 | .250 BABIP

I’ve compared him to a mini-Verlander in the past, both for his frame and power pitching prowess. That might be stretching the truth just a bit. Turner has the frame to be a workhorse, the repertoire for a dominant starter, the mechanics to ward off significant injuries and, most importantly for us, strikeout potential. A career 7.8 K/9 isn’t fantastic, but combined with his 1.9 BB/9 career walk rate and young age (20 as of last Saturday), he has the skills to be another Roy Oswalt or, at worse, Dan Hudson. Statistically speaking, he’s been fairly lucky with the percentage of balls in play that have fallen for hits and limiting runners from scoring. This year alone, his left-on-base rate is 81.9%. There are not any Home/Road splits, or LHB or RHB splits to note. His ETA is September 2011 at the earliest. The Tigers have several options before him in the minors. Most likely ETA is June 2012.

Jordan Danks | CF/OF | Chicago White Sox | D.o.B: 8/7/86 | 6’4″ | 210 lbs | B/T: L/R | 7th rd, 2008 | CHW #18 ranked prospect per Baseball America 2011 | MiLB Player Page

The younger brother of John, Jordan has not had the same success. Jordan, coming out of high school when he was drafted, was projected as big-power bat. Initially, scouts saw a player that could utilize the entire field with gap-power and good pull-power. The power has yet to be shown in games. Until this year, he has struggled hitting advanced pitching – Double and Triple-A. Struggles with pitch recognition and strikeouts (~30% strikeout rate). Danks plays quality defense in center field along with an average arm and plus-speed. His skills have yet to develop into tools; quickness and plus-speed have not translated onto the bases. Frame projects to have more power potential than what has been displayed. His current skills —  strong defense, great speed and struggles to consistently hit advanced pitching — leads scouts prior to the 2011 season, to project Danks as a reserve outfielder. With continued refinement to his hitting approach, Danks plausibly could be an option as a third/fourth outfielder playing good defense with an adequate bat. Very well could be a late bloomer.

Career Stats (inc. 2011): .259/.339/.418 | 1057 AB | 98 XBH | 27 Hr | .169 ISO | 32/10 SB/CS | 309:117 K:BB
2011 Stats (AAA): .262/.349/.546 | 130 AB | 19 XBH | 9 Hr | .284 ISO | 4/0 SB/CS | 39:17 K:BB | .305 BABIP

There have been a few mulled rumors that Danks may get a chance to play in the majors this year for the White Sox. They are pretty quiet rumors at this point. There are a few points that should be raised. First off, he looks to be a better candidate for a platoon. His slash against LHP in 45 at-bats this year is .222/.327/.356 as opposed to hitting .284/.366/.636 against RHP in 88 at-bats. Additionally, he has hit better at home, which slightly favors pitchers historically, albeit a park that rates as an easy place to hit home runs. Danks power this year has been on display at home and on the road. After starting the year cold, in May he has turned it around. The strikeouts are still a concern (39 in 130 at-bats), but the power appears to be peaking. The small sample size, 130 at-bats, is not enough to draw large conclusions, however, these are some good signs. He’s starting to hit advanced pitching with more success. I believe his statistical ceiling could be another Colby Rasmus if he continues to hit like he has this year.

  1. Giant JJ says:

    Is it crazy that I want to trade Minor for Giambi in a 20 team league?. My current CI is Nady who only plays against lefties. And I am hurting in power cats.

  2. Stephen

    Stephen says:

    @Giant JJ: Only because Giambi has been hot.

  3. brett says:

    @Giant JJ: Don’t do it. Let Minor make a few starts and trade him when he builds some value.

    Thanks for the writeup. I’m geeked about Turner. Here’s hoping the Tigers don’t trade him for a third base rental or something.

  4. michael bourne says:

    Turner can only project to be a sp 2 or 3 at best unless the tigers trade him for HanRam or another top weapon. Cust Kayin’

  5. BlinkULDHC says:

    How underrated is Michael Brantley? He looks like this year’s 2010 Angel Pagan — quietly on pace to be a top 20-25 OF on the Player Rater (whatever that is), and his output is similar to Ellsbury.

    Michael Brantley: .286, 26 runs, 4 HRs, 23 RBI, 7 SB

    Jacoby Ellsbury: .286, 29 runs, 4 HRs, 22 RBI, 16 SB

    Obviously the big difference is SBs — so far. Once he gets more comfortable, he should get more SBs (SB attempts in a 35.5% ratio of MiLB games). IF he upped his SB pace to 40 SBs, he’s really not that far off Ellsbury.

  6. Michael Bourne says:

    @BlinkULDHC: One is the lead off for the Red Sox and the other leads off for the Tribe. If you think Cleveland keeps going all year then sure. But if you think Dustin Pedroia, Adrian Gonzalez, and Kevin Youkilis are better than Cabrera, Choo, and LaPorta; I don’t think they will have quite the same line. Maybe an Ellsbury lite. Nice comparison and a to be aware of though.

    • Allen says:

      @Michael Bourne, this is perfect example of a small sample-size. I see Brantley taking another step foward, but do not see enough speed or ct% to be Ellsbury.

  7. Stephen

    Stephen says:

    @Giant JJ: @Brett: I agree with Brett, I should clarify. I think it’s crazy to contemplate that move only because Giambi has been hot.

    @michael bourne: If that is because of Verlander, than the rotation number is a 2 or 3. However, the talent is still a number one or two ceiling

    @BlinkULDHC: Concur with Michael Bourne.

  8. BlinkULDHC says:

    @Michael Bourne:

    Yeah, I never said about Cleveland/BoSox lineup comparisons (your analysis should go w/o saying). All I said was that their respective individual outputs are similar at this point in the season (almost 1/3), and the main point of my post was that Brantley is underrated.

    When you consider the overwhelming love for Ellsbury this season — and then you take a peek at Brantley’s #’s — he’s incredibly underrated. I see Brantley available in a good portion of leagues, and conversely I’ve been offered McCutchen for Ellsbury, Pence for Ellsbury straight up. Underrated.

    No, I don’t think Cleveland will keep pace but I do see them finishing above AL-average. Realize that Brantley is still coming into his own at the #1 spot; he’s got 28 starts there, 14 in the in 6th/7th spots early in the season.

    Not that it matters, but if you look at oWAR, Brantley has arguably been better offensively this far (and his .308 BABIP could improve, IMHO) — though that goes to prove the point that BoSox’s offense is better and is crucial to Ellsbury’s value (since if you switched their teams, Brantley’s BOS numbers would be better than Ellsbury’s CLE numbers).

  9. Giant JJ says:

    I really appreciate this site protecting me from myself. Thanks guys!

  10. It'llonlyhurtforasecond says:

    with all due respect, the line:

    “His skills have yet to develop into tools…”

    should read:

    “His tools have yet to develop into skills…”

  11. Michael Bourne says:

    The way stephen writes it suggests he has ability that isn’t producing usable results (a tool). If I told you I had skill, it would imply I have natural ability. I think either way works to get the point across.

  12. YourMomsBoyfriend says:

    But how do “skills” translate into “tools”, when tools are the natural abilities and skills are tools translated?

  13. YourMomsBoyfriend says:

    nevermind. that made NO sense.

  14. Stephen

    Stephen says:

    @Michael Bourne: @YourMomsBoyfriend: @ It’llonlyhurtforasecond: It’llonlyhurtforasecond is correct. Skills are developed tools.

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