OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

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OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby beastybri » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:06 am

I sent Morneau, Longoria, Adam Jones and Leake
I received Lester, Neimann, Holliday and Cantu

I was able to ride Morneau hard and then flip him on the advice of Grey...I believe Holliday could be better than him in the second half...
I am sick of Adam Jones and basically got Neimann back for him
And, yes, it did hurt to part with Longoria, but I got Lester and Cantu for Longoria and Leake.
My league is H2H and I just felt like I needed to beef up my staff to compete with the other best guy in my league.
His SPs are Jiminez, Hughes, Nolasco, Carpenter, Jaime Garcia, Buchholz, Verlander and Scherzer.

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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby Grey » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:07 am

I would've took the Longoria side.
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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby beastybri » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:11 pm

ok...I know Grey is good, but come on people, he can't be the final word on shizz...he ain't the pope.
and Grey, you didn't address my biggest concern, which was beefing my staff...that sounds weird...but I had to give to get...you don't think I HAD to make this move for the playoffs? That other guy's staff is stacked.
C-Weiters; 1B-Konerko; 2B-Kipnis; SS-Tulo; 3B-Longoria; OF- Pence; Cruz; Bruuuce; Util- De Aza
SP- Kershaw; Zimmerman; Bumgarner; Hudson; Feliz;
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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby Grey » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:10 pm

Niemann's garbage, Cantu's barely above a replacement level player and you gave two top tier corner men and a potential breakout and an outfielder that could easily turn things around.
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Have you given me all the info I need to judge your team? The number of teams in the league is a good start for the big overall questions.
Is your league H2H? Roto?
I don't know who's on your waivers. Don't just ask me who you should pick up. Give me names to choose from.
If you only have one team, post your team in your signature with the league parameters.
I don't know every single matchup for next week, so if you want me to choose a player for the following week and you think the matchups are important, tell me who they're facing.
There's more than one player with the same last name? Then spell out who you're talking about.
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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby AdmiralTrey » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:21 pm

Personally I think you could've gotten a better deal in this trade... Morneau for Lester straight up would be a pretty even deal and would have helped you fill your need for pitching without trading Longoria, too.

Niemann has been very solid this year so far, Leake has been equally solid and has more upside, and Leake doesn't have to pitch in the AL East all year...

That leaves you with Longoria and Adam Jones for Holliday and Cantu... Holliday is a great player, but he's no Evan Longoria, and while Cantu is very good right now, he had a huge April last year, too, and then faded, counting stats-wise. Last year he only hit 9 HR's after April... Adam Jones will most likely be able to match that production.

If you'd just traded First Half Morneau for Lester, you'd have accomplished what you set out to do with the trade, without getting rid of everyone else.

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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby Pirate Jesus! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:06 pm

Yeah, you got taken to the cleaners...

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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby sf05 » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:46 pm

Basically you made a bad trade, don't get mad at Grey for telling you.

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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby Matt » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:23 pm

i wouldn't have made that deal if it was just longo...you got penetrated my friend

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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby Garnold » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:18 pm

I sent Morneau, Longoria, Adam Jones and Leake
I received Lester, Neimann, Holliday and Cantu
Jones/Leake and Niemann/Cantu cancel themselves out for being scrippy and replaceable off waivers.

So basically:

You sent Morneau and Longo
and got Lester and Holliday

Longoria is the best player in the deal and Morneau is about equal to Holliday if not better. Also, Lester pitches in the A.L. east and could end up getting clobbered.

I agree with Grey. You got clobbered.
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Re: OK..pulled the trigger and sent Longoria and Morneau packing

Postby Pirate Jesus! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:25 pm

I sent Morneau, Longoria, Adam Jones and Leake
I received Lester, Neimann, Holliday and Cantu
Jones/Leake and Niemann/Cantu cancel themselves out for being scrippy and replaceable off waivers.

So basically:

You sent Morneau and Longo
and got Lester and Holliday

Longoria is the best player in the deal and Morneau is about equal to Holliday if not better. Also, Lester pitches in the A.L. east and could end up getting clobbered.

I agree with Grey. You got clobbered.
And beyond that, while Jones is replaceable in production right now, there's no way he continues to put up the terrible numbers he has so far this year. At some point, you've got to expect the switch to go on.


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