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The price for Cole Hamels

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:06 pm
by BaronVonVulturewins
I am dangling Cole to another owner, looking to get an OF and a RP in return.

1) Which OF do you like better: Quentin, Drew or Magglio?

2) Is one of those plus Lidge or Brandon Lyons enough return on Cole? (I figure I'll ask for Lidge, settle for Lyons.)

I too am getting nervous about his IP totals. My remaining staff would be Lackey, Cain, Baker, Cueto. It's a relatively shallow league, so decent pitchers come available.

Re: The price for Cole Hamels

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:19 pm
by Grey
I am dangling Cole to another owner, looking to get an OF and a RP in return.

1) Which OF do you like better: Quentin, Drew or Magglio?

2) Is one of those plus Lidge or Brandon Lyons enough return on Cole? (I figure I'll ask for Lidge, settle for Lyons.)

I too am getting nervous about his IP totals. My remaining staff would be Lackey, Cain, Baker, Cueto. It's a relatively shallow league, so decent pitchers come available.

I like them Mags, Quentin then Drew, in that order. Obviously I also like Lidge better.

Re: The price for Cole Hamels

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:52 pm
by IowaCubs
You're right in trying to move Hamels as soon as you can for as much as you can. I'm worried about his increase in FB's lately and the corresponding homeruns. He has a 19% HR/FB ratio over his last 3 starts and his BABIP is .247. His ERA and WHIP are in for a world of pain.

A friend of mine in a league I'm in just pulled this off today to my shock...

Trade 1: Traded Hart and Josh Johnson for Lincecum...
Trade 2: Traded Hamels and Maddux for Braun and Parra.

So basically he upgraded from Hamels/Johnson/Maddux to Lincecum/Parra... and upgraded from Hart to Braun. Not sure how he pulled it off, but it's a pretty competetive league where stuff like this doesn't happen too often. I'm thinking that the Lincecum guy was thinking that Lincecum has been overworked and might be fatiguing, and my buddy was thinking that Hamels is having the same issues. I guess there's one anectdotal benchmark for you to consider.

Re: The price for Cole Hamels

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:01 pm
by peter
Trade 1: Traded Hart and Josh Johnson for Lincecum...
Trade 2: Traded Hamels and Maddux for Braun and Parra.
I don't think I would have given up Hart for Lincecum (even prior to Grey's falling Lincecum warning). But trade 2 is practically ridiculous. That's basically getting Braun and Parra for Hamels (Maddux is hardly better than what one could find on waivers). And even Braun for Hamels, straight, is pretty lopsided.