Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

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TheBigCheese11
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Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby TheBigCheese11 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:36 am

My current roster is:

C - Santana
1B - Goldschmidt
2B - Pedroia
3B - Longoria
SS - Rutledge
OF - A Jones, A Gordon, Morse
Util - Berkman
Bench - Brandon Moss, Profar, Adam Eaton (DL)

SP - Harvey, Samardzja, Shelby Miller, Tommy Milone, Carlos Villnueva, Andrew Cashner
RP - Nathan, Balfour, Mujica

I've been offered a trade of Dexter Fowler and Ryan Dempster for Matt Harvey.

Question 1: Would you do it? I'm leaning yes since I could use a little speed. Side note this is an OBP league for what its worth.

Question 2: if you did who would you drop?
12 Team Mixed League (OBP) 3 Keepers

C - Miguel Montero
1B - Justin Morneau
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Nolan Arenado (DL) / Casey McGhee
SS - Brad Miller
OF - Giancarlo Stanton
OF - Michael Brantley
OF - Alex Rios
Util - George Springer
Bench - Gregory Polanco
Bench - Kendrys Morales
DL - Prince Fielder
___________________

SP - Homer Bailey
SP - Josh Beckett
SP - Hyu Jin Ryu
P - Alex Cobb
RP - Trevor Rosenthal
RP - Ernesto Freiri

Wilsonian
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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby Wilsonian » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:10 am

I would wait to see what anyone else says, but I don't know if I'd do that. I don't think that's selling Harvey. If I could get him for Dempster and Fowler I'd do it in a second. He's your best pitcher. I would like to think you could sell him for a bigger OF piece.
8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - Crush Davis
OF - Marte
UTIL - Hanley
UTIL - Jennings
BN - Pedro

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Mujica
RP - Parnell
P - Gregg
P - Benoit
P - Minor
BN - H.Bailey
BN - Lackey
BN - Hellickson
BN - Kluber

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - AJax
OF - Stanton
UTIL - Francisco
UTIL - Lo-Cain
BN - Heyward
DL - BJ

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Uehara
P - Veras
P - Porcello
BN - Parker
BN - Erasmo
BN - Nolasco
BN - W.Peralta

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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby TheBigCheese11 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:17 am

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but I'm a little confused by your post Wilsonian. You said wait and see, but also "for Fowler and Dempster" you'd "do it in a second".
12 Team Mixed League (OBP) 3 Keepers

C - Miguel Montero
1B - Justin Morneau
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Nolan Arenado (DL) / Casey McGhee
SS - Brad Miller
OF - Giancarlo Stanton
OF - Michael Brantley
OF - Alex Rios
Util - George Springer
Bench - Gregory Polanco
Bench - Kendrys Morales
DL - Prince Fielder
___________________

SP - Homer Bailey
SP - Josh Beckett
SP - Hyu Jin Ryu
P - Alex Cobb
RP - Trevor Rosenthal
RP - Ernesto Freiri

Wilsonian
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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby Wilsonian » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:29 am

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but I'm a little confused by your post Wilsonian. You said wait and see, but also "for Fowler and Dempster" you'd "do it in a second".
I meant: wait and see what others say on here, but I wouldn't do the deal where you give up Harvey. I also meant that if I could deal Dempster and Fowler for him and GET Harvey in return, I would do it in a second. Not the other way around where you're dealing him away. I like Harvey a lot and he's your best pitcher. I think you could get much more for him than a middling SP and a hot schmotato. Fowler is good, but he isn't winning you your league. A stud like Harvey would have more impact, in my opinion.
8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - Crush Davis
OF - Marte
UTIL - Hanley
UTIL - Jennings
BN - Pedro

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Mujica
RP - Parnell
P - Gregg
P - Benoit
P - Minor
BN - H.Bailey
BN - Lackey
BN - Hellickson
BN - Kluber

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - AJax
OF - Stanton
UTIL - Francisco
UTIL - Lo-Cain
BN - Heyward
DL - BJ

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Uehara
P - Veras
P - Porcello
BN - Parker
BN - Erasmo
BN - Nolasco
BN - W.Peralta

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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby TheBigCheese11 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:33 am

So hypothetically you do roll with the deal. My roster considered who are you dropping? Moss? Milone? Villanueva?
12 Team Mixed League (OBP) 3 Keepers

C - Miguel Montero
1B - Justin Morneau
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Nolan Arenado (DL) / Casey McGhee
SS - Brad Miller
OF - Giancarlo Stanton
OF - Michael Brantley
OF - Alex Rios
Util - George Springer
Bench - Gregory Polanco
Bench - Kendrys Morales
DL - Prince Fielder
___________________

SP - Homer Bailey
SP - Josh Beckett
SP - Hyu Jin Ryu
P - Alex Cobb
RP - Trevor Rosenthal
RP - Ernesto Freiri

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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby mdgross50 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:17 am

He's saying don't do it.
12 Team Roto Standard 5x5 (always)

Wilsonian
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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby Wilsonian » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:37 am

Don't do the deal. If that's the best you can get for Harvey, then hold off. He's your best pitcher and you're not getting much in return. Two guys drafted LATE or picked up off of waivers who have had good starts. You can find that on the waiver wire. Where are you finding another Harvey?
8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - Crush Davis
OF - Marte
UTIL - Hanley
UTIL - Jennings
BN - Pedro

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Mujica
RP - Parnell
P - Gregg
P - Benoit
P - Minor
BN - H.Bailey
BN - Lackey
BN - Hellickson
BN - Kluber

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - AJax
OF - Stanton
UTIL - Francisco
UTIL - Lo-Cain
BN - Heyward
DL - BJ

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Uehara
P - Veras
P - Porcello
BN - Parker
BN - Erasmo
BN - Nolasco
BN - W.Peralta

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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby AdmiralTrey » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:47 pm

Harvey's the top-ranked pitcher in Yahoo's universe right now... Dempster is a good strike out pitcher with a mediocre ERA at best. Fowler is more of an upper teens power/speed guy. I think you could get more in return.

Like it was mentioned before, you'd be better off targeting one single player, but personally I think you should hold onto Harvey. If you trade him for an offensive player your pitching is going to take a hit... Harvey now has a 7-5 record with a 2.29 ERA, 0.975 WHIP, and 109 K's in 94.1 career MLB innings. There's no reason to get rid of that unless you're being overwhelmed. His minor league numbers suggest that his ERA is going to rise, but the strikeouts are real and his stuff is real.

10 Team 6X6 H2H Dynasty Year 5
C - Wilson Ramos
1B - Freddie Freeman
2B - Gleyber Torres
3B - Nolan Arenado
SS - Trea Turner
OF - Mike Trout
OF - Ronald Acuna
OF - Yordan Alvarez
OF - Kris Bryant
UTL - Javier Baez
UTL - Adalberto Mondesi
Bench - Rhys Hoskins, Miguel Sano, Byron Buxton, Jonathan Schoop, Rowdy Tellez

SP - Gerrit Cole, Stephen Strasburg, Blake Snell, Chris Sale, Jose Berrios, Chris Paddack, Mike Soroka, German Marquez
RP - Ken Giles, Dellin Betances, Taylor Rogers, Geovanny Gallegos, Colin Poche, Corey Knebel
Pedo NA Purgatory Felipse Vazquez

Prospects:
SP: Grayson Rodriguez, Josiah Gray, Seth Corry, Franklin Perez, Ryan Weathers, Blake Walston
RP: James Karinchak
OF: Luis Robert, Alek Thomas, Jesus Sanchez, Kameron Misner, Bayron Lora
IF: Vidal Brujan, Alexander Mojica, Malcolm Nunez, Greg Jones, Gunnar Henderson
C: Sam Huff, Luis Campusano, William Contreras

Results:
2019 - 4th place. Finished regular season 20 games ahead of 2nd place but fell apart in the playoffs.
2018 - 1st place. Finished regular season 24 games ahead of 2nd place and won in the playoffs.
2017 - 2nd place. Finished regular season 5 games ahead of 2nd place but lost in the playoffs.
2016 - 1st place. Finished regular season 1.5 games behind 1st but won in the playoffs

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Re: Need Some Quick Advice (Selling Harvey)

Postby ensanimal » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:19 pm

Definitely not enough. You can get almost anything for Harvey right now.


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