The final results are in and I tested negative!  Oh, wait, this is for the fantasy baseball leagues.  Um, yeah, ignore that first sentence.  This year in a not-so-unprecedented move of not-so-unprecedented size and enormity.  We’re giving away prizes to our fantasy league winners!  Last year we gave away a hot tub, but this year we did that one better.  We one-upped a hot tub!  We’re giving away an autographed Neifi Perez baseball.  Wow!  Whoever won that Neifi Perez baseball, try not to act too smug, okay?  If you didn’t win this year, don’t worry, there’s always 2012! (Assuming the Mayans were as cracked out of their mind as they sound.) Also, before I let Rick Allen drum roll us into the winners, I wanted to give a warm thanks-slash-“Hey, good job, guy” to VinWins for updating the leagues every two weeks and updating us about his updating of them.  Okay, here comes the update.  Update, update, update… Stupid broken record!  Anyway, here’s the fantasy baseball league updates:

Overall Razzball Commenters League Winner

Drum roll, please… Random Italicized Voice! I won something? But I drafted Justin Morneau.  Not you, but someone who took your name and made you seem smart.  Oh.  Sweet!  Should I contact my trademark attorney?  No.  Can I continue?  Who’s stopping you?  Nice showing, RIV.  Member in the preseason when I said you want to draft a 1st baseman in the 1st round?  RIV drafted Votto.  Think your season is done when you have some bad breaks at the draft?  RIV drafted Mauer in the 4th round, Aaron Hill in the 8th and A-Rod in the 2nd round.  Also drafted Nate McLousy, Erik Bedard, John Lackey and Jon Niese.  In a very competitive league, they still scored 12’s in every category but saves and ERA, where they were at 10 and 11, respectively.  Regale us, RIV, regale us!  (Frankly, it’s pretty amazing how well they did.)

The prizes headed RIV’s way is a trophy from Clay Trophies from our very own commenter, Tony.  The trophy is pretty effin’ — wait, I need caps for emphasis — COOL.  Seriously, RIV, if you don’t want it, I’m taking it.  Who said I didn’t want it?  Not you, man.  Again, my bad.  In addition to the trophy, you’re going to get a Louisville Slugger with my signature.  Now you can walk around like Joe Clark!  If the kids still said that something rad was rad, they’d say this bat was rad.  RIV, please put your email in the comments so I can lavish you with prizes.  All 455 other people who didn’t win, better luck next year!  And congratulate RIV.

Overall Fantasy Razzball Winner

Drum roll, please… Voidoid!  Somehow that name makes total sense to win a league where the idea is to have the worst fantasy team.  Now when you walk around in your velour robe singing, “I may be bad, but I’m perfectly good at it,” you can say you’re singing about Fantasy Razzball.  Voidoid scored 6,085 points, but thanks to how badly their leaguemates wanted to do badly they beat out ichirosan who scored 6,556 points but was only able to get 3rd place because of how terrible their league was at being terrible.  That is not pretty awful, friends.  That’s just awful.  (If you’re not confused yet, don’t worry it gets worse.  Or is it better?)  Speaking of awful, I was actually one of the 120 participants in the Fantasy Razzball tourney of turpitude and I finished 26th.  I just couldn’t get my ball rolling for the worse.  I had Porcello in the beginning of the year when he was doing well, then when he started making dresses out of garbage bags I had already dropped him.  Guthrie lost games for me, but wasn’t razztastic like he needed to be.  Infante was manning the Not Corner, and he was pretty terrible in the good way for most of the year, but August and September weren’t great which is to say they were decent.  Jason Bay was terribly wonderful on my hitting, but he just wasn’t enough.  Show them what we have for Grey!  Nothing!  Again, that somehow seems like a good prize for this league so maybe I should get something.  We’ll leave that to the rocket scientists to figure out, or just anyone with some free time.  But for Voidoid we one-upped nothing! (If you read the lead — or lede if you’re a newsie — you probably know what Voidoid won, but act surprised anyway.)  No, instead of nothing, Voidoid won a Neifi Perez baseball.  We wanted Neifi to sign a turd, but we didn’t want to get kicked out of the Parsippany Holiday Inn autograph signing.  Voidoid put your info in the comments and I’ll make all your wishes come true, if your only wish is a Neifi Perez signed baseball.  And lavish him with some praise for stinking up the joint so good.

  1. mauledbypandas says:

    congrats on the win R.I.V. !

    I had a blast even though my league was somewhat resembling a ghost town with three or four dudes drinking at the saloon.

    See you all next year

  2. mauledbypandas says:

    thanks to Grey and Rudy and VinWins for organizing and collating the data etc. *manhug*

  3. Justin says:

    In a 16 team, 16 keeper H2H league which pitchers would you rather have.

    I give: Weaver, Cahill, Shelby Miller
    I get: Haren, Cain

    My keeper pitchers at this point are, Weaver, Lester, Hanson, D. Hudson, S. Miller, Cahill, CJ Wilson.

  4. Plasmaj says:

    Crappy league mates keeping a brother down. I mean my brother’s brother, which would be me

  5. mauledbypandas says:

    @Plasmaj: I hear you. I think the league index could use a little work, but it’s all in the name of fun right?

  6. ichirosan says:

    Congrats to Voidoid (and darth ripken). It looks like their league was really fun to be in, and a bloodbath from start to finish.

    (Drops a native-american-looking-at-the-plains tear)

  7. Congrats to RIV on the RCL championship!

    I won the ‘Razzball Blogger League’ in a photo finish with Jon from The Hardball Times and our own (and Fantasy Baseball Cafe’s) RJ White (Grey wasn’t too far behind). I won by 10 points which amounts to less than 1 HR (when you factor in the hit, run, and RBI). I’d like to thank all the crappy pitchers and hitters who made my league win possible.

    And, even with that, I finished in 14th in the master standings. Very impressive performances by the top 3: Voidoid, darth ripken, and ichirosan! And the other 10 who finished ahead of me. To the 105 who finished below me, ha ha!

  8. Tony says:

    Congrats Random IV….. I’ll get that trophy out to you as soon as I get an address. Grey you can send that address to me or RIV post it sometime or whatever. We’ll get it figured out, i’ll be glad to get this thing outta my classroom, having kids ask “what is the razzball commentators league” all year is kinda weird to explain hahaha…. Glad i can contribute to the site.

  9. RandomItalicizedVoice says:

    Thanks, Grey! My email is [email protected]

    And thanks to everyone who played in the RCLs, especially my RCL #5 leaguemates. I’ve written plenty about how I drafted and managed my team this year in the RCL forum…I doubt you care, but if you do, you can read a little about my team’s glorious history over there, lol.

    And yes…it is all in the name of fun…and this was fun.

    Bring on 2012!


  10. Sean says:

    I was in voidoid’s league, finished 5th, which turned out to be 18th overall. Could have had fourth but mis-predicted my innings in the second last week and left 120 points on the table on the final Tuesday… an appropriate ending to the year. Also dropped Adam Kennedy way too early because I thought Ackley was going to take his PT away, and he got picked up by, who else, voidoid :).

    The part that I found hard was getting guys who would suck, but not so much they’d lose their job. I had Kouzmanoff, Chris Johnson, Carlos Gomez, Bill Hall, and Jack Wilson, who got me out to an early lead but all eventually lost their jobs. I also had really “good” pitching early on, which fizzled out as the year went on. Was hoping to still finish in the top 3 but when I faded I faded hard, and the top 2 guys really put their teams together well.

    Only thing I didn’t like was weekly transactions. Actually I hated it. It’s really no fun to think about your line-up for the next week, set everything up, then find out Monday at 10 AM that your 1B just got optioned to AAA. Maybe that’s supposed to be part of the challenge, to anticipate who is going to lose their job between Sunday night and Monday morning, but I found it pretty frustrating since I’m a (hyper-)active player. Everyone had the same limitations so in that sense it’s fair…. I just hate it. Hate hate hate.

  11. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    Congratulations WINNERS! Great year all around. Fortunately, I value moral victories highly, so congrats to me!

    Of course, I add my thanks to Grey, Rudy, and everyone who contributes to making this everyone’s favorite site. And, thanks to everyone who offered me kind comments throughout the year and joined in the forums.

    Let’s do it again next year!

  12. Grey

    Grey says:

    @mauledbypandas: Saloon drinkers are some of the best fantasy baseballers.

    @mauledbypandas: No problem.

    @Justin: Haren side.

    @Plasmaj: Sorry it worked against you.

    @ichirosan: Ha!

    @Tony: Ha! Yeah, I’ll email you the info. Thanks again for making the trophy, it really is awesome.

    @RandomItalicizedVoice: You deserve kudos. Not the lame chocolate bar.

    @Sean: “The part that I found hard was getting guys who would suck, but not so much they’d lose their job.” That’s really the key. Getting terrible ABs or innings without getting your guy removed from the lineup. I don’t like weekly lineups either, but Rudy prefers it. I’m sure we’ll discuss over the offseason making it daily.

    @VinWins: Thank you!

  13. Voidoid says:

    What a great league, Razzball 6! I would like to personally thank Bronson Arroyo for having a career year (but I don’t have his phone number) and the Oakland Athletics for their faith in Brandon Allen. Oh.. and all the great folks at for making this possible. (Did you know that this how I found out about this site? I was trying to set up a league where you draft the worst possible players, but couldn’t find people to play and someone told me they had a league like that at

    Grey, email at [email protected] and I’ll tell you where you send the Neifi ball.

  14. Schmohawks Bob says:

    Congratulations RIV. That was an impressive performance.

    We had a very competitive RCL Original Recipe. Back to Back defending champs, The Schmohawks, finished tied for second, a rather yawnstipating 48th overall. Our winner, royce!, did a better job following your advice as well as managing his team, and I salute him as well.

    Thanks again Grey and Rudy for your amazing website.

  15. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Voidoid: Congrats! Yeah, Arroyo had some kind of incredible year for HRs Allowed. Allen is a great prototype for a good Fantasy Razzball player. Has a team that needs to see what he can do, but he’s not doing anything.

    @Schmohawks Bob: No problem. Lucky you didn’t win, Pat Riley would’ve sued you for using the word threepeat.

  16. Big Mike says:

    I’d really like to know who Grey thinks are top 3 hiters and to 3 pitchers for ’12 that didnt get promoted? But i’d settle for everyone else’s opinion too!

  17. OaktownSteve says:

    Big ups as I believe the kids say…though kids to me are anybody in their 30’s. I can’t imagine actual kids are saying big ups. They are probably saying something that sounds like nonsense.

    Nevertheless, full props, as I believe the kids say…oh nevermind.

    Great job by the winners of both divisions (RCL and Razz). My experience is that the site attracts pretty strong players, so this was no walk in the park against a bunch of ESPN/Yahoo/CBS patzers. Well done both of you.

    For my own part. I really enjoyed both formats. Finished 6th overall in RCL and 11th overall in Razz. Had a blast. Will likely be back around next year. In fact, I’ll probably be back tomorrow and every day after to see what the offseason content looks like (there’s a fair amount of dead air in my day…what can I say?)

  18. Tony says:

    @Grey: sounds good i’ll look for it…. no prob on making the trophy, its what I do… thanks for posting pics of it and a link to my website earlier on in the year, its always good to get people checking out my work.

  19. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Big Mike: Off the top of my head… Moore, Miller, Teheran… Trout, Montero, Harper…

    @OaktownSteve: Ha…. Big ups indeed, though I don’t think anyone says indeed who says big ups. Yeah, impressive showings by both. You don’t just roll out of bed and do that well against 450+ other people or 120.

    @Tony: Yeah, of course.

  20. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Big Mike: Oh, well, I gave you three of each that have rookie eligibility.

  21. chata says:


    congratulations .
    you’re team sucked , but you didn’t .

    @Rudy Gamble: @Grey:

    the dummy teams take way too many “good” players .

  22. royce! says:

    @Schmohawks Bob: Thanks for the props, Bob!

    Looking back on it, I think that my good management was just taking advantage of some great luck, particularly in drafting Shields, Lester, Hellickson and Verlander, and then shedding the former two in trades after they helped place me in first in ERA and WHIP. Also happily finding that Lawrie and Jennings were FAs soon before their call ups. It’s carzy how many crappy draft picks one can make up for with a few really lucky ones. Hunter, Choo, Kuo, Belt, Branyan, Smoak, Bard, Span, Nishioka, and Posey were all pretty much sunk costs, though I expect that most decent teams’ draft picks are 30-40% worthless.

  23. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: The leagues would be a mess if we didn’t remove “good” players.

    @royce!: Congrats! Yeah, that’s a lot of terrible draft picks. Sometimes that makes things easier to move onto a hot hand that turns into a Lawrie or Jennings.

  24. OaktownSteve says:

    @Royce: “carzy(sic) how many crappy draft pics one can make up for…”

    Every year I like to look at the team you could have had if you hadn’t drafted at all. All players who were consensus ranked 250 or worse going into the season (full credit to Grey who had several ranked inside 250)

    2B:Ryan Roberts
    SS:Jhonny Peralta

    P:CJ Wilson

    Final lines for this team would have been: .286/274HR/1031R/1015RBI/179SB

    Would have been good for 2nd in our league with 92 roto points

  25. Schmohawks Bob says:

    @royce: I remember we exchanged emails after the draft but before the season started. I remember you fretting about your draft, and saying something like Grey wouldn’t have approved and how much better Porkburn did. As I believed I mentioned to you at that time, I told you you did fine, and that your in season management was going to make or break you (that sounds like a humble brag about how smart I am anticipating how good you were going to do).

    Sadly, for the rest of us, you crushed us with your excellent work. Anyway, I’m really glad you’re in, I salute you, and look forward to next year.

    @Grey: Riley’s already suing me for the use of Back To Back.

  26. Tarasco's Secret Stash says:

    Hey Grey, thanks as always for a solid season. Early gutcheck: who’s my keeper in LF for the next 2 seasons, Carl Crawford or Alex Gordon?

  27. Grey

    Grey says:

    @OaktownSteve: That’s really interesting… There’s some spots there where there’s no way you would have those guys the whole year either. So if you had someone else in April in Hosmer’s spot you’d have better counting stats.

    @Schmohawks Bob: Ha!

    @Tarasco’s Secret Stash: No problem…Crawford

  28. OaktownSteve says:

    and here’s the flip side. Guys definitely drafted in every league. I took only guys who played a full season more or less as well…not just guys injured. As such left off Hanley…the suckiest sucker who sucked this year. The all underachievement team:

    SS:Alexei Ramirez
    MI:Kelly Johnson
    OF:Delmon Young
    UT:A. Hill

    P:Colby Lewis
    P:Matt Thornton
    P:Kevin Gregg

    Lines for this team would have been:


    Which would have been good for 21 roto points in our league.

  29. chata says:


    did coco crips come out and say that he wanted to play for
    the giants next year ?

  30. OaktownSteve says:

    I didn’t hear that, but the Giants have pretty consistently been in the rumor mix for Coco if he doesn’t resign with the A’s during the “exclusive negotiating” widow. I’d like to see Coco back, but not if it means they won’t sign The Hammer.

  31. OaktownSteve says:

    @chata: I hope they don’t sign MC Hammer if it means they won’t have enough to sign Chuck D.

  32. Steve says:

    @Schmohawks Bob: @royce!: Congrats to royce! and to you both for rounding things off for Original Recipe. I had been on foreign (kind of) soil for the last few days.

    Oh – and we all know how p0rk’s season turned out…

  33. chata says:

    tampa not missing crawford now … 1-0

  34. chata says:

    so , lewis screwed me more than once during the regular season .
    is it bad form to root against him now ?

    should i cloak my vindictiveness behind a veil of fandom ?

  35. chata says:

    and , look at bj …. taking a walk (!) and a stolen base .
    now ?
    thanks for nothing .

  36. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: No, you can be as vindictive as you wanna be. It’s the American way!

  37. chata says:

    price …. fielding well

  38. chata says:

    napoli … ugh .
    i blame steve .

  39. Steve says:

    @chata: I can safely say, I had nothing to do with it.

  40. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: How was the trip?

  41. Steve says:

    @Grey: Trip was really good, thanks. Very relaxing. Drank good wine/beer, ate some great food and went to an iconic sporting event in these parts.

    Which covers the spectrum pretty nicely…

  42. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Sweet! What was this iconic event? Had you been before?

  43. Steve says:

    @Grey: Was the NRL Grand Final – kind of like the Super Bowl for Rugby League, which is a sport similar to rugby, but with different rules (

    Even better, the NZ team had made the Grand Final. The game wasn’t the reason I went (was visiting my sister who lives in Sydney), but manged to get some tickets to the game. Never been in a crowd of 90,000 before – pretty cool.

  44. chata says:


    my wife is wearing her anklebiter shirt when she takes me for my
    last cortisone shot , tomorrow .

    think she was happy that it was not an ankiel t-shirt .
    ‘cuz he bites .

  45. chata says:

    delmon !!
    saving the day ?

  46. Steve says:

    Verlander just threw five 100mph pitches in a row.

    In the 8th.


  47. chata says:

    the A ‘s are guaranteed to sell out their 1st two home games next year .
    and they’re hosting the mariners !!

    rumor ==> A ‘s will be dropping off godzilla and picking up yu .

  48. chata says:


    think it’s your turn to host a Razzball s-l-o-w mock draft .
    think about it .

  49. chata says:

    don’t like valverde’s fancy-pants leg kick .

    lots of times i wont draft a guy , simply because i don’t like
    the way he plays .

  50. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Wow, that does sound cool.

    @chata: Ha!

    @chata: Wow, can’t believe the Yanks are about to get eliminated. That was fast.

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