Excellers is now a word because you added it to your dictionaries.  The other day I went over some 2nd half hitters.  Today, it’s time for everyone’s favorite 2nd half fantasy baseball pitchers.  Or maybe these won’t be your favorite pitchers.  These are decisions you have to make on your own.  I can walk you to the fantasy baseball water, I cannot drink it for you.  Similarly to hitters, players get in grooves or slumps.  So if a pitcher has been terrible for the last month, but showed flashes in the 2nd half of last year, he’s worth considering, but he’s not suddenly going to be great, i.e., recent history should be weighed, except in CC’s case unless you have a medical scale.  Anyway, here’s some 2nd half fantasy baseball pitchers for 2011:

CC Sabathia – 1.56 ERA in 2008’s 2nd half to lead the league for pitchers over 60 innings.  He was ranked 7th for 2nd half ERA in 2007 with a 2.76.  In 2009, Chubb rock’d a 2.74 ERA, the 9th best in the majors.  Though last year his ERA went up a smidge in the 2nd half to 3.29.  Though, Part II: The Return of Though, that was better than his 3.52 career ERA. Though, Part III: Though Lives, all those innings on his arm could catch up to him. Though, Part IV: Though Part Three Confused Me, the innings have shown no sign of catching up to him, why would they suddenly?  Though, Part V: Why Do They Keep Making Thoughs?

Roy Oswalt – Except for 2009, he’s had great 2nd halfs… Yet, I worry about his injury this year.  And that yet needs a crane to get out of bed.

Wandy Rodriguez – Since 2008, his post-All-Star break ERA is 3.80.  2nd half ERA is 2.86.  Though he wasn’t good at all going into the All-Star break.  Damn, those thoughs (stutterer!).

Clay Buchholz – Had a 2.20 ERA in the 2nd half last year.  Though (again!) with his injury, I’d proceed cautiously.  You, not him.

Bronson Arroyo – I’d prefer to listen to him cover Sarah McLachlan at the latest incarnation of Lilith Fair than own him in the 1st half of a season, but every year Guitar Arroyo is better in the 2nd half.  Over the last three years, his ERA is almost 2 runs lower (5.08 to 3.09).

Scott Baker – Man (or two lady readers), is everyone that is usually good in the 2nd half coming off of injury currently injured?  It’s kinda rhetorical, so, ya know, no need to answer.  I wouldn’t rush out and trade for Baker, but he is only supposed to miss one more start.

Carlos Zambrano – I hate when I do these posts and it doesn’t work out the way I envision it.  Big Z was great last year (1.58 ERA), but he’s all over the place from minute-to-minute, let alone year-to-year.  He wasn’t good in his last start and, if he showed at Wrigley wearing a Gatorade cooler as a barrel dress and Michael Barrett’s head on the end of a tiki torch, it would surprise no one.

  1. Putting McLachlan and Lilith Fair on blast in the same post? Guess you’re looking to lose those two lady (and seven gay male) readers.

    My Votto/Leubke/Walden for his Teixeira/Sabathia was declined, but thinks we’re close. What do you think of upping it to my Votto/Haren/Walden?

  2. Professor Chaos says:

    Asdrubal with another bomb. Is he a first rounder next year or does he get the Jose Bautista treatment where nobody believes him?

  3. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:

    Went back and looked at the 2nd half hitters/top 100 and saw Werth and K. Johnson. Didn’t see C. Santana or Rasmus, so I was wondering your thoughts on them going forward. As far as 2nd half excellers, I’m not really interested in the D. Lee, Ibanez, Raburn types and most of the others are elite options. I was more curious about the mid-range underachievers who can be had for pennies on the dollar and who could bust out.

    Btw, I read all of your posts and they’re all helpful. Sorry I’m being a pain today, but the time to deal is now and I need some more sage advice. Thanks for all the great work!

  4. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Big Magoo: Santana looks like he’s seeing the ball well, but he’s a catcher. Rasmus looks pretty lost at the plate, wouldn’t bother with him.

  5. Eng says:

    Sir Grey, would you stash Kuo or Broxton? Dankeschoen.

  6. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:

    @Grey: Yeah, I usually Reggie Roby catcher, as you would say, but I’m in some two-catcher leagues where I’m rocking some combo of R. Martin, Lucroy, Napoli-types and could use at least one upgrade there, hence the C. Santana questions. Rasmus has definitely been slumping, but I haven’t seen him play much. Thanks for the info.

  7. Anthony G. says:

    I just made this trade last night, but am regretting it. I traded Adam Jones and Jake Peavy for Nick Markakis and Tim Hudson. I needed an arm for down the stretch, but really hated losing Jones. It’s 12 teams, H2H most categories, the rosters are huge, so the wire is almost bare. Thanks Grey, take it easy.

  8. John Drunks says:

    Sandoval / Lilly / J Garcia vs. Reynolds / Stauffer / Billingsley

    if you’re killing it in HR and need AVG help, which side do u like better?

  9. herschel says:

    @Grey: think Tabata will get regular abs once he gets back or has presley earned his way into some sort of platoon? tabata worth holding on to in weekly leagues?

  10. @Grey: Sorta’… 12-Team Roto and I have 9 points in Saves. I’ll lose Walden but have Putz coming off the DL any day now (along with Soria, Nunez and Parnell).

    The Ass Cab with a 3-run dinger. In my league, The Drubal was purchased at auction for $1, dropped, and then I grabbed him off the FA list on April 27th. When I purchased Hanley for $40 at auction, I didn’t expect him to be my 2nd best anything, let alone my second best SS. FMFBBL.

  11. Fletch says:

    Marcum/Cruz for Hanson/Markakis? Or I can do Stanton instead of Cruz…

  12. Exactly says:

    so in a 12 team H2H, sit Gio @NYY, right?

  13. Exactly says:

    also i traded lind for garza? lind isn’t that good, right? Garza’s due for a nice correction, right? I should stop saying right, right?

  14. frank-n-beans says:

    I currently have hanson hamels beachy and norris..play in12team roto, should i make move for another sp? And who gets closer role when all is said and done lidge madson or potentially bell?

  15. ABell says:

    would you drop bastardo for nathan in anticipation? i can’t really afford to add nathan and hold bastardo if its only gonna be a few days to week before he loses it back to madson

  16. Eng says:

    Thanks! Also, who is behind Street for saves? I thought it was Lindstrom, but FBHS says Reynolds so I’m a little unsure.

  17. @Grey: I am an Editor/Writer and work with many different projects, but am currently editing works for TV and film (I have to be vague due to contractual obligations). Neverthehoo, I never know what films or TV series I might be working on deadline-to-deadline, and cringe when certain words appear on my screen (e.g. “Real Housewives”, “Nickelodeon”)… however, much to my delight, the word “Rivals” appeared in my file today. Perhaps grandma and grandpa weren’t just being nice; Jesus does love me!

  18. frank-n-beans says:

    Bailey more spot starter or must add?

  19. Joel says:

    Grey: for ros, in a h2h league, which one of these SPs?: Leake, maholm, Niemann, Dickey? THANKS! (I think I’m leaning Niemann)

  20. ABell says:

    pick one start this weekend: Gio @NYY, marcum @SF, or luebke @ Phi?
    THanks grey

    btw i just flipped cueto for bj upton to make room for luebke. what’s the biggest upside for a potential trade/new team for upton?

  21. herschel says:

    pestano picks up the save in cle…thoughts?

  22. Wilsonian says:

    Would you deal your Espinosa/Lind for his Zorilla/Quentin?

    I have a slightly disturbing affection for Danny, and although Lind has been shizz lately, he’s kinda the same guy as Quentin.

  23. ujoh says:

    I have a killer offense (Olivo, Howard, Espinosa, Hanley, Longoria, Kemp, Stanton, Victorino, Gardner).

    I want to trade Longoria for a starter and pick up Bonifaco off the waivers. Asked the Lincecum owner straight up, and he countered with Hanley straight up. Don’t think I’ll do that.

    Anyway – what caliber of SP should Longoria deliver?

  24. ujoh says:

    Oh – it’s a 12 team H2H non-keeper. Thanks!

  25. Schmohawks Bob says:

    In an NL only league, which two have the least value among Mark Ellis, Denorfia, Tony Gwynn, Jr., and McLouth?

  26. Wilsonian says:

    If Street gets dealt, is Lindstrom the add?

  27. Salty Balty says:

    Thoughts on my Bourn for his C. Quentin?

    I’m in second and hoping that a hot streak from Quentin could put me over the edge. I hate all speed guys anyway. A little risky, in terms of C. Quentin staying healthy, but I like it.

  28. chata says:


    it was the 1st game of a double-header .
    the guy before him (durbin) gave up a single and a 2 run dinger
    to the only 2 guys he faced …. making it 5-2 .
    pestano came on in a bases empty situation .
    perez was up , but had only thrown a few pitches .

    in other words , think nothing of it .
    perez is still the man .

  29. herschel says:

    @chata: gracias.

  30. chata says:

    back in the old days , the time between games in a double-header
    was about an hour .
    and they didn’t clean out the stadium and make you buy another ticket .
    cust .

  31. chata says:


    wonder if the folks in minnesota have to pay double for parking .
    there’s gotta be some die-hard tailgaters up there .

  32. Paul R says:

    bumgarner and pence too much to give for hamilton?

  33. xopchipili says:

    which terrible catcher do you like better, Ianetta or Olivo?

  34. Vottomatic says:

    @ Grey: would you call Scherzer a 2nd half pitcher? His innings are about the same for pre/ post all star break but a 1.50 difference in ERA.

  35. Cheese

    Cheese says:

    Hey Grey, I’ve been offered a trade, and according to your 2nd half rankings, it’s a good deal for me, but I’m just wondering if it makes sense for my team.

    I get Tommy Hanson, I give Ryan Zimmerman

    16 team h2h league (8×8 – H, SLG, BB, QS, K/BB, HLD with no bench)
    C – Wieters, Torrealba
    1B – A Gonz
    2B – Pedroia
    3B – Youkilis
    SS – Furcal
    CI – Zimmerman
    MI – Cozart
    LF – Cruz
    CF – BJ Upton
    RF – Bernadina
    OF – Joyce, Torres
    Util – J Weeks
    SP – Marcum, D Hudson, Baker, Norris, Capuano
    RP – Axford, K Rod, Uehara, Romo

    If I do the trade, WW options are Moreland, Kennedy, Overbay, Rivera (I’m guessing Moreland is the best option)

    Should I
    a) Accept trade and pick up Moreland
    b) Counter offer for Hanson and Freese
    c) Do not take any part of this deal

    Thanks, much appreciated!

  36. Chris says:

    Is Andrus + 1 of Latos/Kennedy/D Hudson too much for Asdrubal?

  37. herschel says:

    @Grey: still have love for lorenzo cain? assuming a melky/frenchy trade, he should get the call, right? putting together a solid season in the minors…

  38. MrHappyTime says:

    Which one do I start tomm, De La Rosa @ SF or Moscoso @ DET?

  39. yankees2011 says:

    Hello Grey,
    Well I took it on the chin last week from the last place team. Unbelievable. Anyway, is Colon worth holding onto or should I drop him for one of the following:


    Thanks much Grey!

  40. yankees2011 says:

    Perhaps you could add Hensley to the list as well Grey.

    My pitching is ok, but if I can make space by dropping Colon, I should go for it.


  41. Mr2Bits says:

    Grey : Would you lose S. Drew or Pagan for E. Bonafacio. My SS shituation is depressing with Drew doing absolutely nothing for the last month. Not sure how much more .100 OBP weeks from Drew I can swallow.

  42. Wilsonian says:

    @Chris: yes.

  43. Got an offer: My Tommy Hanson for his Neftali Feliz and Chase Utley. I don’t really NEED saves or pitching or another 2B (got Pedroia but could use Utley UTIL). All things being equal, what side of this deal do you like? Thanks!

  44. Mr2Bits says:


    NO, paying for Utleys name instead of his production

  45. royce! says:

    If my projections are correct, a week from today will feature one of the greatest pitching matchups ever: Dickey v. Leake. Can Dickey best Leake? Tune in Monday!

  46. Wilsonian says:

    Would you deal your Espinosa/Lind for his Zorilla/Quentin?

    I have a slightly disturbing affection for Danny, and although Lind has been shizz lately, he’s kinda the same guy as Quentin.

  47. Mr2Bits says:


    Well I did love Drew preseason but he is colder than an eskimos ass. Guess I could always re-grab him if he heats up(as he is being dropped in all my leagues right now so doubtful anyone wants him) but Bonafacio is running like he’s crossing the boarder right now.

  48. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: Still got Hill on my team. Raburn is the only appealing name on the wire. Make the switch?

  49. Doug Ault says:

    @Grey: I just traded Morse and Jurrjens for Bruce.I’m expecting both have peaked,and Bruce will have a solid 2nd half.Did I overpay?

  50. Wilsonian says:

    @Doug Ault: helluva deal for you. I’d take that trade twice a day and 3 times on Sunday.

  51. Grey: How soon until Balt turns to Uehara in the 9th?

  52. Steve says:

    @royce!: I’m (ahem) hanging out for Rubby v Dickey.

  53. Steve says:

    Jesus, don’t tell me Mauer is going to start hitting THIS week.

  54. Grey

    Grey says:

    @E-Rock: For the next three days.

    @Steve: Looks that way.

  55. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: my man crush on Espinosa wouldn’t let me do it anyway. Just wanted your opinion. Much obliged.

  56. Steve says:

    Kiss me, Hardy.

  57. Heyward’s out of the damn lineup. I really thought that a trip to Coors might just get my little phenom going. But alas, during his generous pinch hit at bat yesterday he was “struck in the foot.” Day-to-day after being “struck in the foot”?! Getting “struck” anywhere should involve a legit hit from an opponent. But hits seem to be foreign to Jason. And in the foot? Should have know something was up when Glass Chipper demands that you grab a bat. Definitely no relation to Ironhead who knew what it meant to be struck. Dude played with a brain tumor. Foot contusion. Seriously?!

  58. Wilsonian says:

    @Steve: gotta love when your backup, who’s only in because Andrus has an off day, goes yard.

  59. HoosierDaddy says:

    current staff:
    greinke, kuroda, shields, wandy, kennedy, lilly, melancon, storen, salas.

    I have the opportunity to pick up J Vazquez.
    which starter do I dump for him? Or do I dump a reliever for the time being and fall behind in saves?


  60. Fletch says:

    Hamels or Lincecum? I just got offered Cole or Timmy for my Marcum, Panda and Cruz…worth it? H2H league and I have Beltre at 3rd and Stanton, J. Upton and Kemp in the OF.

  61. Benny says:

    which side would you prefer –

    sandoval/adsrubal/ubaldo -or- krispie/butler/pineda

  62. EK says:

    Which side?
    Gio & Pence for Matt Holliday

  63. Mr2Bits says:

    Anyone know if Halladay is hurt? He has been sucking balls and just got pulled mid-batter.

  64. milksteak says:

    hey grey, could you rank these starters for a 10 team roto. Lily,Hughes, Liriano, Danks, Bedard, Baker.

  65. Benny says:

    @Mr2Bits: They said he was feeling dizzy or something. He definitely wasn’t himself tonight and Charlie would NEVER pull Halladay mid batter if he weren’t hurt. Charlie wouldn’t even think of pulling him any time b4 the 7th inning if there wasn’t something wrong. Having said I all that, it isn’t believe to be serious.

  66. BobbyI says:

    @Gret….5×5 roto, ROS better pitcher:
    Bumgarner vs. Colby Lewis
    Ubaldo vs. D Hudson

  67. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Benny: Sandoval

    @EK: Holliday, it’s fair.

    @milksteak: Baker, Lilly, Danks, Liriano…

  68. Mr2Bits says:


    Thanks for the update Benny.

  69. Benny says:

    @Mr2Bits: No prob Mr2Bits. There still aren’t any official reports, but they’re making it sound like it’s heat related. Halladay’s face was as red as his hat and he just looked drained. Supposedly it’s stupid humid in Chicago today. Apparently Halladay’s only weekness is mother nature.

  70. Killer Joe says:

    Grey, what do you think of this trade:

    Carlos Pena/Jaime Garcia for Wieters/Lester

    5×5 Roto, I have a huge lead in HRs, I’m always afraid to start Garcia, and rolling with Posada or whatever other catcher is playing at a mediocre level. I don’t like trading for a catcher, but I need to make room for Crawford coming off the DL, and I could drop posada. Plus, my trading partner could overtake the first place team in HR/RBI. Good trade, or am I overthinking?


  71. chata says:

    had to check in to see what choice words the kiwi has
    for reynolds .
    quite the ticker tease .
    same for jd drew …. but no one rosters jd drew .

  72. Steve says:

    @chata: I’m sanguine about it. I have Youk on the team I have Reynolds and Hardy on another team so I haven’t missed out on all the fun.

  73. Elizabeth says:

    Hey, I thought there were three lady readers.

  74. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Killer Joe: Lester side.

    @Elizabeth: Now there is… So what do you think of guys with mustaches?

  75. chata says:


    sanguine ?

    i think i’ve read every word ever printed on this site .
    that’s the 1st time that i’ve seen ‘sanguine’ .

    choice word , indeed .

  76. knighttown says:

    Stanton/Lind/Chacin for Holliday/Hommy

  77. Steve says:

    @chata: Slightly more annoyed after that last strikeout.

  78. donnie baseball says:

    Give B J Upton for Greinke?

  79. chata says:


    don’t think i’ve ever seen anyone get a blown save in the
    8th inning .

    please explain this .
    thanks .

  80. Steve says:

    @chata: Isn’t any time a pitcher comes into a game after the fifth inning, with his team leading by 3 runs or less (and whatever else applies), technically a save situation?

    And if that pitcher gives up the lead, *technically* he’s blown a save.

    Happy to be corrected…

  81. chata says:


    probably .
    never heard of a blown hold .

  82. chata says:

    hanrahan pretty strong for the soon-to-be 1st place pirates .

  83. Giant JJ says:

    I’d like to buy low on jonathon Sanchez. Is Brandon Allen a good offer for Sanchez? Or I could get F-her for Justin upton. 20 teams

  84. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    Man, my team hasn’t hit a homerun in two weeks, and I’ve had nine straight days of sub .200 averages.

    Not a keeper league, either, so I’m just kind of suffering with no real point in continuing. Bleh.

  85. Nick says:

    @Grey: Dump Gee for Masterson, T Hudson, M Harrison, Beachy or Niemann? Also would you drop Corey Hart for another one of the pitchers above considering im -60 for innings pitched and could pickup more K’s, lower WHIP and a few more wins.

    my offense looks like this…

    of-stanton, bruce, morse
    ut-sandoval & holliday
    bn-hart & cozart

  86. herschel says:

    @Grey: thanks for the collmenter recommendation….appreciate it.

  87. Arthur says:

    Wait, where is Nolasco? Nolasco not included in the second half performers list? So unGrey-like. Or unGrey-esque.

  88. Adam says:

    Got too much speed, need power/AVG

    Andrus for Ortiz?

  89. Joel says:

    I need speed badly. Rajai Davis or Michael Brantley? I know Davis gets more steals but he kind of sucks.

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