Sounds like Jacoby Ellsbury will be out until the All-Star Break.  Break being the key word.  The Boston Globe reported that Ellsbury has, “a non-displaced rib fracture and edema in the left posterior-axillary line.”  Ribs and edema?  What’s that, a fusion Japanese-rib joint?  The doctors didn’t find a blooming onion in there?  Member in the preseason when I said you could have Ellsbury ten rounds later in Borbon?  Borbon has not endeared himself in fantasy owners’ hearts yet, but he’s picking up his game of late, Ellsbury can’t pick himself out of a chair.  Gotta hold Ellsbury if you have DL room and hope for a big 2nd half.  I do have my doubts though about how well a guy is going to be able to steal, most specifically slide, when this latest injury happened diving for a ball.  The good news is if you listened to me, you didn’t draft Ellsbury.  Right?  Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

Carlos Santana – Getting called up for Friday’s game.  Yes, the same catcher the Indians were waiting until August to bring up.  Yes, the Indians were messing with you.  Where do you think Justin Masterson:  Passive Aggressive Fantasy Starter learned it from?  As I’ve already said on the blog, I don’t expect the 2nd coming of Mike Piazza.  At least not this year.  Think about what you got from Matt Wieters last year.  Shoot, think about what you got from him this year.  If you’re starting Joe Schmohawk at catcher, sure, take a chance on some upside.  I think he can give a bit more power than Posey, but they’re in the same ballpark.  No, not literally.  For this year, I’d give him a .280 average and 13 homers.  Actually, I already wrote that.  Here’s my Carlos Santana fantasy.  In keepers, he should be owned already.  If not, grab him immediately.

Todd Wellemeyer – Injured his leg.  Giants have been looking for a reason to bring up Madison Bumgarner.  This is probably as good a reason as any.  I’ll go over Bumgarner in detail in this afternoon’s Buy/Sell.  He’s a Buy, but by (stutterer!) how much?

Mat Latos – 6 IP, 2 ER, 3 baserunners, 8 Ks.  As many other teams this year, the Mets proved to be Latos intolerant.  Hodgepadre or no hodgepadre, he should be started everywhere at this point.

Tyler Clippard – On his mantle, Clippard puts a save next to his 8 wins and autographed photo of ALF.  Capps was just rested, no reason for alarm.  This does show you there’s no reason to hold Storen for vulture saves.

Jon Niese – 9 IP, 0 ER, 1 Hit, 6 Ks.  Not to take anything away from Niese (yes, that means I’m about to take something away from him), but this was vs. the Padres B lineup.  Two Hairstons, Denorfia, Salazar, Torrealba and Zawadzki, which I believe is the most Polish a last name can be.  Niese has been fantastic since he returned from the DL and gets the Indians next.  I’d definitely give him a shot.

Mike Leake – 4 1/3 IP, 5 ER, 15 baserunners, 2 Ks.  Well, you knew it was coming at some point.  Or at least you should’ve known it was coming at some point.  I’ve only been saying it for the last three weeks.

Max Scherzer – 7 1/3 IP, 3 ER, 6 baserunners, 7 Ks vs. White Sox.  Nice start coming after he was shellacked by the peasant Royals.  Really hard to start that kind of inconsistency.  He reminds me of Kershaw.  They have Ks, walks, bad pitch economy and youth.  Scherzer shows a bit better control, but Kershaw has a better league/park.  Then Kershaw has the best K/9 for starters with more than 50 innings and Scherzer is around 40th and even Edward Woodward can’t equalize that.

Gordon Beckham – 1-for-2 with a double.  I didn’t see the double, but I’m guessing the Tigers were playing the Beckham defensive shift, which is the outfielders go for pizza and life-sized, cardboard replicas fill-in for them.

John Danks – 7 IP, 5 baserunners, 1 Hit, 4 Ks.  Now has a 3.27 ERA on the year.  His K-rate has rebounded this year and his ground balls are up, um, down, um… His ground ball percentage is up.  The homers per fly balls is lucky, but he should keep his ERA respectable enough to meet your mother.

Alex Rodriguez – Left the game with a stiff groin.  Was Jeter doing calisthenics near him?  A-Rod will see a doctor today.  My guess is he will miss a few days.  When I was fifteen and had stiffness in my groin, I’d go missing for weeks.

Kevin Youkilis – Left the game with a back spasm.  He’s day-to-day.  Or Day II Day, if you’re into R&B.

Jake Arrieta – 6 IP, 3 ER, 8 baserunners, 6 Ks.  Before you get crazy with yourself, this game could’ve been much worse.  He escaped a bases loaded jam in the 6th by striking out Marcus Thames.  I still don’t think you should get involved with Arrieta outside of AL-Only or keeper leagues.  Unless you wanna get roofied.

Josh Johnson – 8 IP, 0 ER, 4 baserunners, 5 Ks vs. Halladay.  I’d say he beat the best pitcher in baseball, but on the surface that seems like Ubaldo.  Josh Johnson, however, has a better K-rate than Halladay and Ubaldo and his ERA is 1.91.  Johnson is actually making a case for the best pitcher in the NL.

Corey Hart – 2-for-3 and his NL-leading 16th homer.  Will he never surrender the NL HR lead?  Doubt it.  But it’s worth noting that it’s like he’s hitting with a 2-iron.  Since May 1st, he’s hit 12 HRs and hitting over 55% fly balls (career mark is 43% percent).  The only guys equal or ahead of him are Mark Reynolds, Jose Bautista, and Jayson Werth.  If he keeps it up, expect a strong HR pace with a very streaky average.

Ryan Theriot – 3-for-5 and his 13th steal as he gets the start over the other Silent T.  Now has four steals in the last four games.  Or as I like to say, “Two more than Alcides has all season.”

Matt Lindstrom – Missed the game with a stiff back.  Well, you Lindstrom, you lose some.  I grabbed Lyon all over the place just in case the stiff back becomes a “I can’t come back,” but it looks like Lindstrom will be fine to go on Friday.

Trevor Cahill – 8 IP, 1 ER, 7 baserunners, 4 Ks.  Now has a 2.91 ERA on the year.  Whatever, I still don’t buy it.  You say stubborn, I say obstinate, let’s call the whole thing off.

Brian Roberts – Given his third epidural.  Betcha he wishes he chose natural childbirth.  My guess is he’ll return in September for a few days just to mock his fantasy owners.

David Hernandez – Got his first save as Juan Samuel finally instilled some common sense into the O’s bullpen and removed the LOOGY from the ninth inning.  Trembley should’ve been fired for that alone.  Do I think Hernandez runs with the job and forces the O’s to put a memorial park in center with his statue in it?  No, probably not.  I don’t think Hernandez even gets out of June still saving games, but grab him now and ask questions later.  He is the closer, which in the O’s bullpen is also known as the tallest midget.

Brett Cecil – 6 2/3 IP, 1 ER, 6 baserunners, 2 Ks.  At some point, you’re just gonna have to start all your Blue Jay pitchers in every start.

Carlos Pena – Guess what he did yesterday?  Yup.

Miguel Montero – Will return this weekend.  It’s gonna get awkward around the clubhouse when no one is returning Chris Snyder’s phone calls.

Chad Qualls – 1/3 IP, 4 ER, 5 H.  What song comes on when he enters a game?  Daydream Reliever?  A song from Billy Joel’s ‘Turnstiles’ album?  Bob Dylan’s “A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Qualls?”

Tommy Hanson – 5 1/3 IP, 2 ER, 6 baserunners, 10 Ks as he threw 121 pitches.  Although, it should be noted that every time he got 3 strikes on the batter, Hanson insisted the umpires let him go to a 5 strike count a’la King Kong Bundy.  This comes just one game after Kenshin Kawakami introduced a new pitch that blows green smoke into batters’ eyes.

  1. Bring Back Pluto says:

    Love it.

    By the way, you typoed that Scherzer pitched against the Royals last night when he actually faced the Chi-Sox. Makes his blurb kinda confusing.

  2. Quintero says:

    Getting roofied is awesome, by Sasha Bleu off course. Hey man! Keep it classy!

  3. Howard says:

    I added Santana for his potential trade value. Ironically I also hold Wieters! I now have the ignominous distinction of having three Santana’s on my roster! At least Carlos can play a mean guitar! Oy vey como va! Ron Popeil would not approve!

  4. DrEasy says:

    But who to drop to pick up the Supernatural? I went with Hoffman. Now Posada is expendable, especially since I also have Montero on my DL. I want to upgrade my MI, so here’s some of the trades I’m thinking about, after a look teams in need of an upgrade at C:

    Posada + Alexei for Andrus?

    Posada + Alexei for Furcal?

    Posada + Alexei for Jeter?

    Posada + Kelly Johnson for Brandon Phillips?

  5. Ryan says:

    Rank Posey, Montero, Santana

  6. DrEasy says:

    Also, is Simon still the go-to closer in Baltimore when he comes back, or are they gonna run with Hernandez? Should I drop Simon for Hernandez? Thanks!

  7. seth says:

    Scherzer didnt get rocked by the Royals though he did give up 9 hits and 5 er in 5 IP-only 1 was a double the rest were singles. also, he only walked 1 and 2 in his past 2 starts. finally, comparing scherzer’s K rate using his full season data is meaningless since he’s a totally different pitcher now. 24:7 K:BB in 18 IP since recall; 26:16 in 42 IP before.

  8. tourinct says:

    With Montero returning, cut Barahas or Jaso?

  9. ViagraFalls says:

    Trade Freese for Rolen or Willingham? Keep him?

  10. ViagraFalls says:

    Or even Freese for Kelly Johnson

  11. Steve says:

    Grabbed Lyon all over the place?

    That’s what she said.

    I wish.

    Best chance for a win and a few Ks? (The ol’ H2H – I’m leading in WHIP but probably out of it in ERA):
    Morrow @ Rox
    Hammel v Jays
    Maholm @ Tigers
    Martin @ Tribe

  12. ViagraFalls says:

    Freese for Corey Hart is available to work out, too. But even though Hart has been knocking them out like crazy, his erratic BA keeps me at arms length.

  13. Steve says:

    @big o: Nice to have you back again.

  14. BSA says:

    Good Morning Razzball –
    PSA from Synergy Center as I watched Tabata on my bench last night and Stanton 0fer in the lineup.
    We moved off 45 yesterday and dropped to 41 with some additional help from another Razzball commenter/blogger.
    With a concerted push today I am confident we can push this to the 30s for the weekend. Here is what Iowa put out to there yesterday and thanks again for all your help.

  15. Steve says:

    @BSA: Early riser!

    As you get up, so I retire. Having voted first of course ;-)

  16. BSA says:

    @Steve: Yup, I appreciate it. I am waiting for the day my little crew allows me to sleep until you are already retired.
    If you want a good laugh check out my late night FB post to see what you are missing while you sleep. Go Sid!

  17. Jordan73 says:

    Grey, what are your thoughts on Scott Baker? Doode’s been erratic as hell all season. Should I continue to hold, or let him do his baking on the FA list? Available starters I’m considering include Cecil, Ely, Annie Sanchez, and Medlen. Thanks!

  18. Mowses says:

    Montero coming back the same weekend Santana gets the call. Here’s the pickle: I’m starting Posey at C, have Montero on the DL and Santana on my bench.
    Who do I start, who do I sell?

  19. TheEvilEmpire says:

    Sit Romero @ Coors?

  20. It’s the Baron here, back from the dead. My team, not so much.

    My team is weak tea. 7th, with middling ranks in everything but saves and Ks. So your thoughts, please, on a couple of moves:

    1) What do we think of Josh Willingham? Could he be putting together a sneaky-useful Ludwickian kind of season? He’s been awfully useful of late. More useful than, say, Jay Bruce.

    2) I have Soto at C, and Santana stashed. Tomato-tomahto? Worth dumping Soto on pure upside?

    3) Trade: get Kinsler, give Dunn/KJ? Hope you like the Kinsler side, because this one is a (release the pinkie!) Dunn deal.

    Bit of a dice roll, but the kind of bold, audacious, potentially blow up in my faceable move I need to shake my 7th place team out of the doldrums. IF Kinsler bounces back to 1st round value for the next 3.5 months, and IF Adam Lind wakes up from his coma, and IF Beltran provides some kind of value sometime this year, and IF Krispie really has decided to steal 25 bases this year, and IF Jay Bruce can put three good games together in a row, I must just take the title yet! Beware the Marching Ifs!

  21. HotCorner says:

    Maybe I’m reaching here, but my staff is hurting…picked up Bedard and De La Rosa since we have the roster flexiblity to stash a couple of players. More worried about Jorge than Erik given the whole similarity to the Zumaya injury…

  22. sean says:

    @Grey: not too get too technical on a guy that everyone knows is useless for this year, but on Roberts, a third epidural injection is usually the last ditch non-surgical option…

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Willingham is a wolf in gNats’ clothing; I’d hang onto Soto and look to move Santana after his first HR; on board with Kinsler if you had the extra body to move, but I don’t think that Kinsler will finish a Dunn’s worth of difference above KJ.

    @Jordan73: not sure why you’re owning him in the first place

  23. Dumbmutt says:

    H2H 6×6 with Hits

    Would you lose Damon for Kelly J or Weeks? Have Stewart at 2nd but would like something to plug in when he is cold or not playing.

    Damon usually sits with OF/Util/(4) Bench(2) of Rios Bruce Crawford Hart Morneau

  24. sean says:

    @sean: suffering from too many o’s up there.

  25. sean says:

    @Dumbmutt: Who are you playing at first that you have Morneau at U? Is there a CI slot?

  26. @sean: I was sonavabenching myself into oblivion (missed Krispie’s weird 3-steal game, for example) so some OF had to go. I think KJ finishes the year as Kinsler Lite, but I think he’s done most of his hitting (dont’ see more than 25 HRs for the year) while Kinsler could get very hot in Texas over the summer months. Hopefully his balky ankle doesn’t hamper the steals.

    A few more IFs: Aramis Ramirez has to do something, anything, for the rest of the year. I’m not playing him right now, but a guy with a career .280 avg should have a few months of .350 in him, if his thumb gets right.

    Usually, this is the time of year I look at my roster and others and say “Who’s likely to put up a half-year of great stats to get back to their normal levels?” Unfortunately, this year all those buy-low guys (Aramis, Lind, even Hanley) are all on my own team.

  27. Dumbmutt says:

    Tex at first and I did try to trade Morneau with no one interested

  28. stynyr says:

    Grey, should I look to drop Napoli and grab Santana?

  29. stynyr says:


    Should I look to drop Napoli and grab Santana?

  30. Dan Z says:

    Anyone, Who has the better season from here out, Kurt Suzuki or Carlos Santana? Ive got both and find myself in a bind now as I can only play one….

  31. cain fan says:

    @Grey: Would you suggest grabbing margainal AL SP for some interleague spot starts? I am in a shallow league and grabbed Gio Gonzalez for the month, he has some solid matchups. I am curious as to how you handle these things.

    PS Vlad should get his 5th start at OF today making him eligible in some Yahoo leagues, Booyah!

  32. stynyr says:

    Should I drop Napoli and grab Santana?

  33. GopherDay says:

    Would you drop Cueto for Bum??

  34. Byrone says:

    happy friday rudy and grey!

    big z is my last starter, and some guys on FA include e jackson, richard, floyd, lowe, kuroda. should i be making a switch to one of these guys, or should i just dump z and play matchups?

    also, now that santana’s up, is russell martin worth trying to trade, or just dump him?

  35. Cryin Roberts says:

    Brian Roberts has been riding my DL all season, enough is enough, time to drop him, right?

  36. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @stynyr: hells no. napoli has been killing it for over a month and is one of the few Cs out there with multiple seasons of 20 HRs coming into this year.

    without kendry, even if scioscia goes stupid and insists on playing mathis behind the plate, there are plenty of DH/1B ABs for napoli, plus mathis was hitting well over his head before his hand injury, which perpetuated the whole early season PT thing between napoli and mathis. mathis is a career .206 hitter in 275 games, and he’s coming off a hand injury…would you bet on him picking up where he left off such that his offense isn’t a huge liability?

  37. Lob Ball says:

    Do we know yet when to start or not start Stanton?

    LHP?RHP?Fastballers?Junkball pitchers?

  38. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Byrone: i can’t imagine russell martin would carry any trade weight unless you have an owner whose been under a rock for 3 seasons.

    as for zambrano, maybe drop for kuroda, but i’d probably give zambrano a chance to get a few more starts under his belt now that he’s back in the rotation. his proven upside is much much higher than the guys listed, and he’s still K’ing guys, so might be worth waiting out a few more weeks. unless you are desperate for innings/starts, can’t imagine you’d be using any of those guys on the WW regularly anyway.

  39. timSTi says:

    @Grey: Drop Doumit for Santana in a 10 team 7 keeper? Or drop Lewis or Baker and stash Santana?

  40. timSTi says:

    @Grey: Also, should we hold back starting Nolasco @TB tomorrow?

  41. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey; @Poon; @Anyone: 16 Team H2H Keeper. Here’s my roster:

    Soto, Dunn, KJ, Wright, Alexei, Hamilton, Hunter, Boesch, Smoak, Headley, Lind, Snider-DL (usual lineup, play two UTIL)

    Cain, Lester, Haren, Bills, Ervin, Latos, Anibal, Ely, Capps, Axford, Clippard

    Anyone I can drop for Supernatural today? I’ve been waiting for a long time for him to come up (actually have owned him at two different times this season), but now I’m not sure I have a clear drop for him.


  42. Ruah says:

    Posted this yesterday, but cant find it now:

    Inherited a team with Leake on it and had been waiting for a start to have an excuse to swap him out. Here are the best SPs available, make a move or hold Leake?

    Cecil, Niese, Slowey, Myers, Paulino, Richard

  43. LMack says:

    No love for Josh Hamilton in the round ups?

  44. ScottyM says:

    Opinions? Gotta drop one SP when Simon comes off the DL:
    Leake, Buchholz, Erv. Santana

  45. elwood blues says:

    in an NL 4×4 keeper league, where I have motte for cheap.. I have someone who wants him for Lindstrom, who will be a free agent in our league.
    is it worth it? I am sucking in saves.. but I am on the border of whether to go for it this year or build for the future.

  46. Ryan Beariot says:


    Thanks for the advice yesterday/earlier today about that Wainwright for Wright deal; he took it and I’m a lot happier with my team. The only problem is now pitching. Currently I’m rocking a decent staff, but after losing Wainwright, and as I’m currently on pace for a +68 IP set mark, do you think I should try to grab another starter to fill the hole or throw in a good MR/8th inning guy?

    available starters: Wandy Rodriguez, Randy Wells, Gavin Floyd, Kevin Slowey, Jonathon Niese, Jason Hammel

    Thanks again!!

  47. Wilsonian says:

    @Wilsonian: never mind…dropped Headley for Mr. Supernatural. Figured it was worth a shot in that deep of a keeper. I can take a slight hit on Headley, not that his yawnstipating ass was providing me with much anyway, on the off chance that Grey is wrong, and Mike Pepperoni Piazza makes his return via some black magic woman.

    Question number two for Grey, Poon, anyone with a free second to tell me I might be crazy for thinking this. 8 Team H2H Keeper. Asked a question about this yesterday. Looking for a 1B, and in need of some serious pop as my lineup has hit quite the power outage lately. I’ve got a stacked OF. Kemp, B-Up, CarGo, Rasmus, Stanton, and Nellie set to come off the DL (will be dropping Carlos Lee for him when he’s ready). A friend of mine, in need of some OF help, has 14 first basemen, but he’s not willing to part ways lightly. He turned down my offers of CarGo or B-Up and Rasmus or Stanton (combo of 2 of the 4) for A-Gon. But said he would do Pena and his .191 average for CarGo. I’m seriously considering it, because I need some pop. My lineup has hit about 5 in two weeks. Pena has done that this week. Plus I don’t know if I can trust riding on Glaus’s hot streak for the remainder of the season.

    CarGo for Pena fair, given the shituation(s)?

  48. Lines says:

    The “Beckham shift” is classic. Well played, gentlemen.

    Play Bautista vs U-Balls (@Coors) or Edge Jr. vs Lackey (@Fenway)? Or just bench both, and protect my averages? It’s H2H, and I’m ahead in 13 out of 14 categories (for now).

    Also, it’s old news, but Pedroia finally copped to a knee injury. Says he wants to play through it. Granted, Pedey’s the bastard child of Scrap and Grit, but hurt is hurt. I’m having Brandon Inge flashbacks.

    I offered Jose “Chris Shelton II” Bautista and Jorge “Older than fucking dirt” Posada for Grandy and Oswalt. Here’s hoping.

  49. Van Hammersly says:

    Guys, would you drop Alcides for Neil Walker with respect to all 5 categories rather than just from a SAGNOF perspective?

  50. uncdrew says:

    Who else is starting the Hodgepadre tonight vs. Seattle?

  51. GopherDay says:

    ***With the Ranger’s game at Milwaukee, Vladdy will most likely get start #5 in the OF, giving him OF elig most likely***

  52. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: weekly or daily lineups? if weekly, i can’t imagine clippard having much value.

  53. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @ScottyM: i’d drop simon.

    you’ve been making it without him, and he plays for a crap team. those SPs are playing too well to drop. if anything pair one of them with a bat to get a better bat.

  54. Ian says:

    Do you trust Liriano to be fully back? I only ask because ZiPS is still a little pessimistic on his “rest of season” projections of a 4.3 ERA the rest of the way.

  55. Wilsonian says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: daily lineups. Clippard has value because we have Ks/9 as a category. I went ahead and dropped Headley. He wasn’t providing me much, and if Santana takes off, in a deep keeper like that, he could garner me a better return than Headley, so it was worth taking the upside upside my head.

    What did you think about my other post, or did you see it? Question about CarGo for Pena…

  56. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bring Back Pluto: Thanks, yeah, confused last start and this one, but everything makes sense. Subjectively.

    @Quintero: Ha

    @Howard: Ha!

    @DrEasy: Andrus…

    @Ryan: Santana, Posey…

    @DrEasy: Simon’s supposed to be the man when he returns, but Hernandez could run with it.

    @big o: Ha!

    @seth: The pitcher I described was more or less who he was last year too.

    @tourinct: Jaso…

    @ViagraFalls: Hart…These guys aren’t really close to Freese.

    @Steve: Ha! Morrow…

    @Jordan73: Go with Medlen…

    @Mowses: Sell them all if it’ll get you something worthwhile. Start with Montero.

    @TheEvilEmpire: Start him…

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Hey, good to see you. 1) I think he is. 2) Yeah, just go with upside since they’re basically the same thing. 3) Ha! That deal isn’t great except you had one guy on your bench, so you condensed value. Hopefully Kinsler goes crazy hot.

    @HotCorner: Cool…

    @sean: It sure didn’t sound good.

    @Dumbmutt: Lose him for Weeks.

    @stynyr: What others said.

    @Dan Z: Suzuki…

    @cain fan: Nice re: Vlad… I would grab AL SPs if I had room, sure.

    @GopherDay: Eh

    @Byrone: Thanks you too! Agree with Poon on rest. Martin’s not going to get you anything.

    @Cryin Roberts: You waited all of this time, I’d give it one more week for final word.

    @Lob Ball: If you’re not starting him, trade him.

    @timSTi: Drop Doumit.

    @timSTi: I could see myself starting him and benching him, depending on team/league situation.

    @Wilsonian: That’s kinda crazy in that deep of a keeper he’s not owned. I would’ve said Clippard too.

    @Ruah: Slowey

    @LMack: Sorry, didn’t think there was much to say. I do own him everywhere and have enjoyed it thus far.

    @ScottyM: You might end up dropping Simon…

    @elwood blues: I’d want Lindstrom.

    @Ryan Beariot: Grab Slowey.

    @Wilsonian: Not great in a keeper.

    @Lines: Thanks! That’s hilarious. I’d start Werth.

    @Van Hammersly: Yup

    @uncdrew: I am.

    @GopherDay: Sweet!

    @Ian: I haven’t seen any extended stretch to worry about from him.

  57. bodymore says:

    Ah Latos, I drafted him on every team and gave up on him too soon.

    Sean Rod went deep last night — he could go on a tear and earn PT, but I can’t drop Yunel for him. KJ and Furcal are both producing, but I hate the idea that someone else will get his production that I see coming at the weakest slot (MI). Any move to make there?

    Are you starting Ely vs LAA tomorrow? holding onto him? I could go for the extra MI depth since Furcal does get the occasional day off, and see what happens.

    Besides the MI depth I could chase saves…2 down for the week and D. Hernandez is out there

    Bumgarner also real tempting…

    Finally, Quentin has quieted down after a brief power surge…do I still hold onto him? I have Bay, Stanton, Rajai, Tabata, Granderson, Vlad (OF elig soon). If his power came back I could use it, but I’m just not convinced it will this year.

    Since this is a long post, I’ll simplify…out of the names I mentioned, who would you drop for who, if I should make a move at all.

  58. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: yeah, like I said, this is now the third time that I’ve rostered him this year. Stanton wasn’t even owned until mid-May (well, he was owned 2 times before that as well and then finally picked up for good). I thought Headley was a decent drop. There are at least as good as him options out there if Santana falters and I like Clippard’s random wins, ks, and ks/9. He actually has a better chance at getting snagged up in the waiver wire than Headley.

    So you wouldn’t do CarGo for Pena straight up, even with my other options in the OF? Isn’t Rasmus basically the same guy? I dunno, I haven’t made the offer yet, and I’m not sure I could do it, and you’re definitely leaning me the direction of not taking it. Thanks for the input.

  59. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: in an 8 team league pena is barely ownable i’d think. so i’d say hold off. i’d rather stick with glaus. use cargo to go find a better value at another need, or what for that guy to suffer an injury or 2.

  60. yanks4life says:

    Santana or Weiters?

  61. Quintero says:

    @bodymore: U can drop Rajai for Sean-Rod if he is eligible at OF in your league.

  62. chiasports says:

    ellsbury…. so grey… if you are lucky enough to make it to the playoffs…and gave up weaver to get ellsbury…and..ellsbury comes back healthy for playoffs,or even second half of the season…worth it?

  63. chiasports says:

    grey…. whats up with braun…hes killing me!

  64. Grey

    Grey says:

    @bodymore: As mentioned the other day, Ely got bumped until the Sawx start. Unless something’s changed. re: Sean-Rod: you can’t own everyone. Hold Quentin over Sean-Rod.

    @Wilsonian: Sounds like you wanna do the Pena trade, so go for it. In a keeper, I’m not crazy about it.

    @yanks4life: Santana

    @chiasports: Sure, if he comes back healthy.

  65. ViagraFalls says:

    @Grey: I have Freese, you meant trade for Hart above the other guys listed, right? Your reply made it seem like I was looking to get Freese, who I have.

    Also, I am stumbling as to who to start today: Carlos Pena (who’s been on a roll) vs. James Shields, or Cantu (who shows a more favorable matchup) vs. Anibal Sanchez. I’m perplexed because as streaky as Pena is, he’s been hot the last few days when his matchups were against him so part of me really wants to see if he has more in him. But Cantu…

    Thx Grey…

  66. Wilsonian says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: thanks for the head’s up. I couldn’t pull the trigger. I saw that damn .191 average staring at me, and I couldn’t do it.

    My dad has Howard, and he loves trading. He pretty much makes an offer to someone every day. What do you think of Wright for Howard? I have Longoria at 3rd, and I also have his cap, in case he’s looking for it.

  67. CoreyII says:

    Which soon to return C would you go after in a trade – Montero or Santana?

    Which SP, if any, value fits best for 1 of them – Liriano, Morrow, Richard, Myers?

  68. bodymore says:

    @Grey: Yeah, I saw that, but Yahoo still had him listed as starting so I was confused there for a bit. So he’s getting skipped, are you still holding on to him or would you consider Bumgarner instead?

    True that I can’t own everyone, I just have been eying Sean Rod since the offseason. Mans gotta have his mancrushess.

  69. CoreyII says:

    @CoreyII: I’m playing Jaso right now (was Iannetta and then Snyder before him) – I think I would prefer to get a real C who plays more often.

  70. uncdrew says:

    @anyone and/or Cardinal’s Management:

    David M Freese active tonight?

  71. Howie Met Your Mother says:

    Would you mind ranking:

    Jaso, Montero, Santana, Weiters?

  72. Buddo Chezuski says:

    LOL, God I love the Gordon Beckham potshots

  73. amscalone says:

    “proved to be Latos intolerant.” where’s the nod, grey?

  74. Nathan says:

    Just got around to reading your FIP post from yesterday. Interesting conundrum with Brandon Morrow tomorrow. On the one hand, AL pitcher against NL lineup. On the other hand, Coors. Do you start Morrow @ Col?

    Also, Olivo is the #1 ranked catcher in the Yahoo game right now. That means he can’t be a schmohawk, right? … right? Would you hold him over the likes of Posey and Santana?

  75. Fletch says:

    @ Grey – Are you more impressed with what Latos did at Metco or what Cecil did at Tampa?

    Here is something to kick your weekend off to Grey:

  76. @Grey: Yeah, I hate to lose Dunn’s pop, but he is what he is. Plus, KJ is one 1-for-21 streak away from having no trade value in my league (no MIs) and the trade partner lurves Kinsler, so there was a premium to be paid.

    Krispie’s new found penchant for steals convinced me he needs to play every day. Though yesterday when he didn’t start, I benched him — and he comes in and homers. KRISPIE!!!!

    But if anyone out there can still get Krispie on the cheap from a non-believer, do it: The sudden steals make him look real likely for .265/80/25/95/25 — in other words, what you hoped Sizemore would do for you.

    Meanwhile, my faith in Bruce caused me to pass on FA OFs like Hart and Ludwick. Bruce, like a teenager’s chin, still has breakout potential, but his actual real-life stats are kind of uninspiring. He’ll be posting his weekly 2 HR games from my bench until Wee Willie Willingham cools off.

    @sean: Wolf in gNat’s clothing — that’s good, right?

  77. @Grey: I heart Arod jokes a lot, he makes it so easy. The Great Kawa-Kabuki! We need more green smoke blown in guys eyes in baseball.

    Last man of the bench. 15 team, no AVG, just OBP:
    DeWitt, CoJack, S. Hairston, Infinite Omar? Now that C.S. is up, I can kick Kottaras to the curb and tell him to go make me a gyro.

    Also, what do you think I can get for Wieters in a keeper league as far as pitchers go? I’d rather have Santana, he can’t be worse than the false idol – plus he’s got better OBP and might even swipe a few. He’s also the same age, or so they say. Santana could be 30 for all we know.

    Do you think I should hold Wiet power, hope he improves and gains value or kick him to the curb for a two start pitcher new week. My opponent coming up has me out armed.

    @uncdrew: Raises hand. In the one league where I still have him. Hope we don’t see a Correian BBQ! Hey-o!

  78. @Baron Von Vulturewins: Hey dude. Welcome back. Sorry, but I don’t like that deal at all.

    I owned Kinsler for 2 years in a keeper and finally cut the chord a week before a late summer DL stint last year. The man simply can’t stay on the field. I have Nelly now, same deal and would love to trade him too. Certainly not keeping him.

    It’s interesting how injury perception changes when you own the player, versus when you’re targeting the player in trade. As soon as Nelson comes back and rakes again, I’m sure I’ll get a good price for him.

  79. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: not bad, howard usually has a couple of months where he just destroys shit, and that hasn’t happened yet.

  80. yanks4life says:

    Is it time to dump LInd or do you think he will come around? Drop him for Willingham?

  81. Riding the Alcides/Keppinger train at SS while I wait on Rollins. With a glut of SPs, would you guys trade Nolasco or Baker straight up for Stephen Drew?

  82. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ViagraFalls: Trade for Hart. Pena…

    @CoreyII: Liriano… Don’t trade for a catcher.

    @bodymore: Sure, Bumgarner. But I’m not 100% sure on Ely’s next start.

    @uncdrew: Ha… Not sure.

    @Howie Met Your Mother: Santana, Wieters…

    @Buddo Chezuski: Hehe

    @amscalone: Sadly, I’ve been saying that since last year:

    But if you said it last year, I forgot.

    @Nathan: Hold Olivo. I’d start Morrow. Could spell doom though.

    @Fletch: Cecil… He’ll be in this afternoon’s post, if I get around to writing it.

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Yeah, I see where you’re coming from. Just feels like KJ is Kinsler without the name attached. Assuming you’ve had him plugged in all year.

    @3FingersBrown: We need more green smoke in every day life. This is the latte I ordered… *green smoke*. CoJack, blech. Hold Wieters…

    @yanks4life: If you like to lose him, I’m not going to stop you.

    @Mark Geoffriau: Eh

  83. uncdrew says:

    I’m gonna start Morrow to-Morrow as well, but I’m way behind on ratios and Ks, so am willing to risk the ratios in order to climb in Ks.

  84. uncdrew says:

    Or, as one active participants sometimes says, “Morrow II Morrow” if you dig the R&B vibe.

  85. Howie Met Your Mother says:


    You can’t possibly think you’re the only person who has used that bit of comedy gold can you?

  86. amscalone says:

    @grey: damn.

  87. fatti_b says:

    Which side going forward? I have Ubaldo and need a little kick offensively…

    Braun + Slowey


    Ubaldo + Bruce

    My stomach is in knots over this one…

  88. @Grey: I think you’re on to the next hot beverage trend.

    Another reason to hold Wieters. Bobby V is interviewing for the O’s skipper job today. Maybe he gives Wiet the good stuff, like he gave Todd Hundley.

    Seriously though, he’d be a great fit for that team. He’s always been at his best with young players.

  89. Grey

    Grey says:

    @amscalone: It’s all right. It’s more my bad for going to the well.

    @fatti_b: It’s okay. Not a slam dunk if that nudges you against it.

    @3FingersBrown: Ha

  90. Dumbmutt says:

    LeBlanc vs SEA or Morrow @COL

    I have a Carpenter Felix Strasburg buzzsaw to face SUN and I’m looking for a miracle!

  91. I just inherited commish powers in a league that had some shaddy dealings before I took over. A trade just came through that I believe was offered in earnest, but seems way out of whack. I don’t believe in commish vetoes. but we do have a league vote. Does this seem outrageous in a 12 team keeper roto league?

    Ubaldo and Lackey (who was just picked up off waivers) for
    Howard and Kershaw

    The biggest kick in the nuts is that the first place team gets Howard and Kershaw side.


  92. ruah says:

    Hill and Lind. I have both sitting on my bench o one team waiting for them to come around with productive subs in my active lineup. Do you see either of these guys coming around? I could use the space for something other than dead weight, but I cant bring myself to cut them just yet.

  93. fatti_b says:


    Thanks Grey. My staff is a little sketchy beyond Ubaldo (Price, J Santana, Baker, E Santana, Morrow). Then again, the chance at having an original top 10 player for him is enticing…

    If you were conceding Braun and Ubaldo, would you want someone better than Slowey, or to give up someone less than Bruce?

  94. Nathan says:

    @Bostonbeerman: That seems alright to me. Ubaldo is the #1 player overall right now. It’s not like Kershaw is a slam dunk. He’s cashing in Ubaldo for a top 10 hitter and a high upside pitcher. Really not that bad.

    A guy in my league tried to trade away AGonz and J Upton for Beckett and Jenks earlier this year. The one you posted really looks okay.

  95. @Grey: Dude just lost his fool mind and dropped Damon. Going to put in a waiver claim. Who should I drop for him: F. Lopez, Tabata, Hill, Quentin? Position irrelevant.

    I need R/SB (I’ll take what I can get) over HR/RBI right now. Damon’s OBP will help me a lot too.

  96. @ruah: That’s how I’m feeling owning Hill and Quentin. Even in a competitive league, I can find better off of waivers.

  97. ETMcgee says:

    I guess adding carlos santana to my (only) first place team would make sense, since i haven’t had a catcher on that team since mid april.

  98. Joel says:

    Grey, your anti-UPS ad is popping up all over the place. Wha happened?

  99. Wilsonian says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: I’m thinking about doing that deal. BUT, he did say that pretty much anyone besides CC, Mariano, Hughes, Jeter (he’s a Yankee fan, can you tell?), Cain, Vladdy Dodi, is available. Thought about making a bigger offer, and if that fails, do the 1 for 1. What do you think of:

    Howard/Reynolds/Bailey for Wright/Glaus/Rasmus/Axford? It looks like it might be a lot to offer, but I’m not sure. I kind of like the way my team would look after that. But we count Ks and Reynolds is a K or a HR kinda guy. But like I said before, I have Cruz coming off my DL and this would free up a spot.

  100. Nathan says:

    @fatti_b: For what it’s worth, I think you should use the trade BeerMan just posted as your expectation for the #1 player in the game. If hitting is your need, think a top hitter + a high upside pitcher in the 2nd/3rd tier (Hanson, Kershaw, Strasburg, Hamels, maybe Nolasco). I’d look to get more than Slowy.

  101. Eddy says:

    Always love when a Marlins player gets some Razzball love!

    Btw, I pulled off a trade last night for what I think was the best for my squad. Whatcha think:

    I get: Shin-soo-choo

    I give:Filthy Sanchez and Quentin

    I still have Lester, Hamels, Kershaw, Jaime, Ian Kennedy on my staff. As well as the best spot start (Morrow for the Ks for now).

    Not to mention I wanted runs and average. Pretty good?

  102. tHe ShiT says:

    @Grey: Who do i drop 2 pick Santana 2 use as trade bait cuz i hv Napoli? I got Boesch, Robot, PacMan, S-Rod, Snider(DL). Which one? I would think Snider since he wont b back 4 a couple wks and i could prolly pick him back up cuz im fast 2 the wire usually and my leaguemates r really slow. PLz help quick!

  103. TheEvilEmpire says:

    Guys I’ve picked up and dropped so far this season:

    Hart (twice)

  104. big o says:


    do i start peavy against the cubbies , today ,
    or did he jinx himself
    by flapping his gums about the towers firing ?

    (winds are blowing out towards left-center … 10-15 mph)

    thanks , in advance .

  105. Jenkies says:

    H2H, 10-team league. Looking for SP. I dropped Billingsley too soon and want to avoid another mistake like that. I have Verlander, King Felix, Latos, Burnett, J. Garcia, A. Sanchez, Ely, and Penny (DL). On offense, I am willing to part with Konerko, Glaus, Gomes, Pence, and Stanton.

    Available: Vazquez, Leake, Moyer, Vargas, Pavano, Brett Myers. Had Leake before, but his recent K/BB nosedive scared me away (and general lack of Ks in the first place). Any suggestions?

  106. Always a sucker for any KKB reference. Started the day off with a laugh. The ol’5 Count & it’s obvious relevance to Tommy Hanson’s outing yesterday! Too much! Thanks Grey.
    & hold your O’s if Valentine takes the helm! Baltimore could use a little of Bobby V’s arrogance, bizarre antics, and Asian discipline (not Hideki’s kind). Maybe PacMan gets benched for an attitude adjustment & Spartacus starts playing like the gladiator again…

  107. Eddy says:

    Oh and who do you think will be more productive:

    Daric Barton vs Lincecum?

    Quentin vs. Wells?

  108. Patches O'Houlihan says:

    Chacin or Niese? 100 mph pitching in stratospheric Coors vs. Anemic Mets Offense, a shaky start, but a great post-DL comeback…

  109. Wilsonian says:

    In an 8 Team Keeper…who do you like going forward? Kershaw or Verlander? I got an inquiry about Verlander, and he has Kershaw, who I’m a bit interested in, but our league counts BBs (dumb as hell, counted HRs too until this season). What does anyone think?

  110. tHe ShiT says:

    @Grey: 2 late, Santana was snagged 9 minutes after my last post…oh well

  111. @zombie: That’s what I’m saying. I hear Bobby V is doing the job interview in disguise.

  112. Long Bawls says:

    Hey Grey and Razzcals! Do you think I’d be a sucker to give up Buster Posey, David Wright and Billy Wagner for Sabathia, Derrek Lee and Matt Holliday?

    The way I see it is I’m giving up one irreplaceable part (Wright), some hype and some SAGNOF+ for mondo upside. I’ll be stuck w/Schlub #2 (come on down, Edwin! And Freese! And…) for 3B, but have Montero ready to go at C.

  113. Trying to kill 2 birds with one stone and offer Hill + Quentin for the struggling Pedroia.

  114. @3FingersBrown: I hear you — but this was a high-risk, high-reward roll of the dice. No way I do the deal either a) in April or b) if I’m in first place.

    But I need runs, I need steals, and moreover, I need stars — the kind of guys, like Kinsler, who in the summer heat might put up a couple of 6 HR, 6 SB, 25 run kind of months. Or he could end up out for 6 more weeks with a balky ankle. I certainly have guys who’ve burned me in the past who are on the Don’t Touch list (Matt Holliday; David Wright). I just can’t bear to own them again.

    Basically, my team won’t sink or swim on this deal. It will sink or swim on whether my stars start playing like stars. So far none of them, save Morneau, are doing that. If Hanley/Felix/Lind — picks 1, 3, 5 respectively — don’t play better, I’m sunk in any case. Dunn ain’t gonna save that.

    (My 4 pick was Morneau. My 2 pick, Lady Sizemore, has already been dropped.)

    Like I said: A lot of ifs.

  115. Vince says:

    12 teams, H2H, 5×5, Non Keeper

    My lineup:
    C: Napoli
    1B: Teixeira
    2B: Phillips
    SS: Reyes
    3B: A-Rod
    OF: Granderson
    OF: BJ Upton
    OF: Bruce
    Util: Stanton
    Bench: Quentin

    SP: Lincecum, Josh Johnson, Johan Santana, Lee, Weaver, Nolasco, Cueto
    RP: Aardsma, Nunez, Dotel

    Some guy wants Teixeira from me.

    Question #1 : Would my Teixeira and Nolasco for his Votto and Felix be a good trade for me? Would I be selling low on Teixeira and Nolasco?

    Question #2 : What if I offer him Teixeira and Cueto instead?

  116. Long Bawls says:

    @Jenkies. For what it’s worth (somewhere between a bucket of room-temp spit and a cigar butt), I’d drop Stanton for Vazquez.

  117. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Dumbmutt: LeBlanc…

    @Bostonbeerman: Looks okay.

    @ruah: I said to sell Hill last week. Lind’s capable, but he looks really lost right now.

    @fatti_b: Someone better than Slowey.

    @3FingersBrown: Lopez…

    @Joel: Sorry, I don’t control that shizz.

    @Eddy: Looks fine for you.

    @tHe ShiT: Sorry, but you’ll be fine without him.

    @big o: I would if I owned him.

    @Jenkies: Lose Gomes for Vazquez.

    @zombie: Ha… Thanks!

    @Eddy: Quentin

    @Patches O’Houlihan: Niese

    @Wilsonian: Verlander…

    @3FingersBrown: Ha

    @Long Bawls: Not crazy about it for you.

    @Vince: I’d take F-Her. Try and offer Cueto first, sure.

  118. @Baron Von Vulturewins: Kinsler’s just so overrated in my opinion. It’s taken me a while to come to terms with that, believe me. He won’t hit for average, his HR rate is down and his speed is hampered by injury.

    If it’s the other guys that you are worrying about, I think you’ll be fine. All of those guys should pick up the pace.

  119. Long Bawls says:

    @Vince: Clamato, Clam-ah-to, in my opinion. You’d be buying low on Felix. If you think Tex and Votto are gonna be in the same ballpark (as it were), then this is Nolasco for Felix, which I’d totally take. I’d totally take Cueto for Felix too, but I bet he wouldn’t.

  120. Long Bawls says:

    Thanks, Grey!

  121. ViagraFalls says:

    @Grey: Is Pelfrey worth owning over Niemann, Billingsley, Latos or E. Santana? If not, which would be your choice to run with?

  122. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: Napoli or Santana?

  123. Vince says:

    @Grey: Thanks Grey!

  124. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: i don’t like the bigger deal.

    bailey is kinda crap imo, so you are doing wright for howard (ok since you have longo and need power), but i don’t like glaus/rasmus for reynolds. reynolds isn’t running much (at all?), and pretty much his ceiling in the avg dept is .260. glaus is healthy and has high OBP guys in front of him, and rasmus has shown plenty of potential but still a little streaky, and could be a real breakout in the 2nd half.

  125. RustyKuntz says:

    Ryan Zimmerman or Ryan Howard in a dynasty league?

  126. ViagraFalls says:

    @Grey: Thx Grey!

  127. Jenkies says:

    Another question, on the hitting side. H2h, 10 teams, 5×5, non keeper.

    Here my lineup: Napoli, Howard, Phillips, Jeter, Wright, Rios, Bay, Victorino, Konerko. Bench: Glaus, Pence, Gomes, Stanton.

    I have more first basemen than I can possibly play, Wright gives me night sweats, and beyond Rios and Victorino, the outfield is very shaky. Can’t drop Bay and no one wants to trade for him.

    Available: Stubbs, Willingham, Scott, Ross, Pagan, Coghlan, Boesch, Kubel, and Kearns. Are any of these guys going to be steadier than Konerko/Glaus, Pence, Gomes, or Stanton? I am thinking that Gomes or Stanton are the first to go, esp. if I pick up Javy. Thanks.

  128. ThePoonTycoon says:

    exploraing UBALDO trade options in a h2h keeper 12 team 5 man keeper league (no keeper restrictions)

    i was thinking of exploring ubaldo options. at 3B i have mcgehee (and glaus with 3B eligibility at util). in the OF i have braun, pence, bj upton, and cruz + snider on the DL. my 2nd util spot is manned by weeks (with zobrist at 2B).

    ubaldo for zimmerman + felix?
    ubaldo for kemp + price?
    ubaldo for prince + hamels? (already have tex at 1B, but could slot prince at util spot)

    or would none of those deals be a huge enough upgrade at the position player for me to gamble ubaldo doesn’t continue on his current trend? note that i haven’t really talked to gauge interest, but browsing and those deals kinda jumped out at me.

  129. danimal35 says:

    I think I might have a problem…Smoak, Santana, Tabata, Desmond, and Stanton all on the same team…there has to be a Razztastic slang for owners that are addicted to the Rookie Nookie regradless of how it affects their team…like a Nookie-file or an Upside Shooter or Noob Junkie

  130. Tom Emanski says:

    Soto being benched again. What the hell does he have to do to play every day? He’s OPSing above .850. Is there something I’m missing?

  131. Kazmere says:

    Rest of season: Figgy or McGehee? Wondering if selling high on McG would be worth an upgrade in SP. I could use SBs, have Pujols, Tex, Zimm for power if I lose McG. What say you, Grey? What kind of SP could I get for McG??

  132. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Jenkies: gomes is the first to go, at least see if stanton takes off and you can trade him. gomes has no trade value cause he’s been yawstipating fantasy baseball owners for half a decade now.

  133. Mr. Rickey says:

    Helton or Mora (no, I’m not joking and I’m not time traveling)

  134. danimal35 says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: I have Zimmerman and F-Her and I would trade them for Ubaldo…but that’s me, just FYI.

  135. danimal35 says:

    @danimal35: correction…wouldn’t…I would NOT trade them for Ubaldo…but what do I know

  136. Jenkies says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: Ok, so I drop Gomes for Javy Vazquez. Then how about dropping Konerko for a hitter?

  137. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @danimal35: yeah, i’m just trying to figure out where i could maybe upgrade right now. my team is largely underachieving with the bats, but i historically have a 2nd half heavy hitting team.

    i still think ubaldo is at worst gonna give you a lot of 7IP 3ER 6K type games once he falls back to earth a little bit. he’s not gonna suddenly turn into a 6 era SP like people seem to think whenever you shop him around.

  138. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Jenkies: depends on what’s out there. personally you should have pence or glaus starting over keonerko and should have for a month now. konerko is gonna have a konerko type line (.270-30-90), so consider where he is now and project what he’s got left for the next 3.5 months. sometimes it’s nice to have a steady vet on your bench for emergencies though instead of chasing the young unproven guy.

  139. T-BZA says:

    Better keeper value in a 10 team mixed:

    Stanton or C. Santana?

  140. Wilsonian says:

    @danimal35: Cradle Robber…I, too, am one…

  141. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @T-BZA: never a C

  142. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Vince: No problem.

    @RustyKuntz: Howard

    @Jenkies: I’d go with Javy over Gomes as previously said, then hold.

    @ThePoonTycoon: I’d do #2, 1 and 3 in that order.

    @danimal35: You’re addicted to rookie nookie like Gary Glitter.

    @Tom Emanski: It’s very annoying. It’s Sweet Lou’s way of kick starting an offense, don’t you know?

    @Kazmere: I’d try and sell him for a SP if you can get a Hamels-type.

    @Mr. Rickey: Ha… Helton.

    @T-BZA: Stanton

  143. Martin says:

    @grey- corey hart or smoak and ely? Also do you like ely more then wandy?

  144. Jenkies says:

    @Grey, ThePoonTycoon: Thanks guys.

  145. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: Grey, in a long term move in my dynasty league, would you trade Clayton Richard for Everth Cabrera? I have Desmond at SS right now, but Cabrera could be a speedy SS for many years to come. I’ve got a pretty strong staff this year, and am about 60 IP over pace. I could also offer Ely instead.

    The other guy has Elvis Andrus as well. He’s 100 IP under pace and is wanting to trade for pitching.

    How much pitching would you give to get Andrus with this staff?

    Yovani Gallardo
    Ian Kennedy
    John Ely
    Clayton Richard
    AJ Burnett
    Shaun Marcum
    Derrek Holland

    Obviously I’ve got plenty of pitching and need to trade some for whenever DLR and Holland come back.

    Thanks Grey!

  146. nick m. says:

    i know there is man-love out there for stanton, but will he really be better than kubel who seems to be turning the corner (maybe?) for the rest of the year?

  147. I offered up:

    CJ Wilson
    Kevin Gregg
    Kerry Wood


    Dan Haren

    Am I giving up too much?

    5X5 Roto

  148. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Martin: Hart… Ely over Wandy but not for 2 weeks.

    @Jenkies: No problem.

    @GopherDay: You’re assuming Holland will come back. I’d trade two of Ely, Burnett, DLR, Richard, Holland, Kennedy and Marcum for Andrus. It’s a better deal than getting EverCab for one of them. Obviously if you have to just get EverCab, then you do it. Trade any one of them besides DLR, Marcum or Kennedy.

    @nick m.: Stanton

    @kR Express: It’s fine for you.


  149. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @kR Express: not nearly enough imo

    @GopherDay: check on marcum or burnett + desmond for andrus

    seems like a lot but desmond is merely gonna be roster depth if the deal goes through. and if he doesn’t have a replacement SS he’ll be less likely to do it. so throw him desmond if needed.

  150. Seequinn says:

    @Grey: Unless the Nats mess with the rotation, looks like The Stryborg will face Carlos Santana, Jason Heyward and Mike Stanton in the next month. We’re betting on who gets the better of him, if any. I say Heyward, because he’ll have corrected what’s slowing him now by then, but there is a lot of love for Massive Mike.

  151. amscalone says:

    @howie: was only making reference to grey shooting down my glossary suggestion a few weeks ago.

  152. GopherDay says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: @Grey: Thanks! I just sent him an e-mail with the offers.

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