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We got starters for days, literally and Urbandictionaryly.  The other day I went over our top 20 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball, then I went over my top 40 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball.  Today, the title of the post might’ve gave it away, but for those that skipped it, this is the top 60 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball.  You could probably get away with waiting until this post to draft your first starter.  To put that in perspective, Medlen is ranked 134 in the top 400 (that I’ll post in a few days).  So, in a 12 team league, you could have 11 picks prior to your first starter.  That’s, oh, I don’t know, five outfielders, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, corner infidel and middle infidel.  I’m not saying to do that, but it’s possible.  Basically, you can have your whole offense and still put together a pitching staff.  If you don’t believe me, you insult Al Gore who invented the internet as a portal for fantasy baseball advice.  All the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings are there.  As always, I point out where tiers start and stop and my projections.  Anyway, here’s the top 60 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball:

41. Chris Tillman – This tier started in the top 40 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball.  This tier goes from here until Kuroda.  I called this tier, “Taking a number three doesn’t mean a pee and poop combo.”  A(nother) general word about this tier.  Ryu, Kuroda, Medlen and Griffin are all going to give their value.  They’re safe.  Cashner, Porcello, Josh Johnson, Corbin, Archer and Tillman may not give their value, but they also may give a lot more.  Tillman could breakout from this tier with just a small step up on his K-rate and a small reduction in walk rate.  He needs to lose the half walk rate gain from this year and bump his K-rate up to his minor league level from five years ago.  Before you scoff at ‘ five years ago,’ you scoffer, he’s still only going to be 26 years old this year.  He took a major step back in ERA from 2012 (2.93) to 2013 (3.71).  His walk rate went up 2.51 to 2.97.  He gave up too many homers.  His fastball velocity fell.  From 2012 to 2013, Tillman’s K-rate went from 6.91 to 7.81.  It doesn’t look like it will be an outlier either.  Tillman has a 92 MPH-ish fastball and regularly notched a 9+ K-rate in the minor leagues, so there’s a chance for an uptick in value, but giving up homers in the AL East isn’t a great way to get there.  We’re ready for this guy to take the next step, and by ‘we’ I mean me, so turn your W upside down, which is Sesame Street for clever.  Today’s letter is I, as in I have an itch and I’m in public so I need to duck behind this mailbox for un momento.  There, that’s better.  I’m just not sure that Tillman’s step forward will be much more than a 3.60-ish ERA with solid if unspectacular Ks.  It could though.  2014 Projection: 12-11/3.69/1.25/188

42. Chris Archer – How have I not written a sleeper post yet on Chris Archer?  That’s a crime against humanity like when a Starbucks barista spells your name wrong.  It’s with an E!  Enola Grey Lincoln Albright, the Third from the House of ‘Perts!  My ‘pertise tells me Archer is going to be some kind of wonderful with a short haircut like Mary Stuart Masterson.  Put on overalls, Chris Archer, and get your butchy thing on!  Last year, he had a 7 K-rate and 2.66 BB/9, which is why he’s Medlen’ing in this tier.  All through his minor league career he’s been much better though and I like the idea of him breaking out.  Though, I think it might be a half season thing.  Wouldn’t be surprised to see him become all that and a bag of olestra-laden chips until July or August.  He’s still finding his groove.  And if you didn’t know, now you do, beep.  Sorry, that was a radio edit.  If this were Rap Genius dot com, there would be a footnote telling you I’m referencing Biggie Smalls because I like Archer nearby in Bed-Stuy.  2014 Projections:  13-10/3.54/1.22/152

43. Hyun-Jin Ryu – Yes, there are so many pitchers.  You seriously should find a different hobby if you can’t find six starters you can draft.  Ryu was a bit of an unknown going into last year.  I mean, I knew him, hence the reason why I ranked him when so many sites didn’t.  *cough* ESPN *cough*  BTW, Rugrat from The Wolf of Wall StreetDoppelganger of Eric Karabell.  We don’t know a whole lot more about Ryu after last year.  The sample size is too small — that’s what she said!  He appears to be a 7-ish, 2-ish BB/9 pitcher that won’t ever be an ace due to his stuff, but won’t ever be too terrible.  He’s basically the Asian Medlen — or Medren.  2014 Projections:  13-9/3.52/1.22/147

44. Hiroki Kuroda – Another name for this tier — workhorse.  Kuroda hides in the shadow of CC, but so does three of five boroughs.  Kuroda just misses on the K-rate for this tier, rocking a just-below seven, but he remedies that with a sub-2 walk rate.  He is in danger of falling into the 4’s on ERA if he just loses an inch off his K-rate and gets a tad unlucky with homers, which isn’t difficult in The House They Built Across The Street From The House Ruth Built.  2014 Projections:  13-12/3.57/1.18/142

45. CC Sabathia – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Peavy.  I call this tier, “Thang ain’t got no I and these pitchers are nothing to me.”  I’m not drafting any of these guys and tried to bury them in the rankings.  If perchance someone else has ranked them even lower and they’re still around this late, then draft another hitter and wait another round to draft a starter.  Here’s you, “Grey, in your infinite wisdom and handsomeness, what happens if these pitchers are around really, really, really late?”  Draft another hitter or closer or anything else for another round, and really that’s how you modify?  As for CC, hey, we all fall apart at some point.  Whether it’s your hairline or CC’s arm.  2014 Projections:  14-12/3.78/1.29/165

46. Johnny Cueto – I like Cueto less than most ‘perts, but most ‘perts stare at my mustache like it’s the Mona Lisa and it follows them everywhere they move around a room without me turning my head.  Cueto should be healthy in 2014 and is only 28 years old, which makes him the odd duck in this tier — he’s no aging hippie like you’d find in Topanga.  His xFIP never matching up with his sub-3 ERA bothers me enough where I’ll let someone else take the gamble on him.  Last year, it worked out for me avoiding him.  In past years, not so much.  2014 Projections:  13-9/3.37/1.19/134

47. Tim Lincecum – Could’ve also called this tier, “One-time number ones, now they might do a number two.”  Lincecum is trying to figure out how to pitch with less stuff.  Last year he went to the change more and the curve less and stopped relying on his league-average fastball.  It helped him reduce his walks, but his Ks went with them too.  At some point, he’ll figure out how to pitch effectively.  Hopefully, before he’s pitching like Bozo Arroyo and is able to take a bong hit between releasing his fastball and it hitting the catcher’s mitt.  2014 Projections:  11-13/3.71/1.29/186

48. R.A. Dickey – Dickey will probably pitch for a long time, so it doesn’t bother me he’ll be 40 this year.  He could even have a low-3 ERA this year.  Or he could have a high-4 ERA.  That’s the problem.  He’s as unpredictable as casting Lohan in a film.  To read more on him, check out Jay Wrong’s R.A. Dickey fantasy.  2014 Projections:  15-13/3.97/1.22/182

49. Lance Lynn – Lynn’s an odd bird.  He gets Ks, which I like.  He doesn’t kill you with walks, which is nice.  He even lucks into wins, which you can’t account for.  I want to own him…For some starts.  By and large or whatever cliche you got, he’s decent, but, guys and four lady readers, he is a flippin’ mess for a few months here and there.  He’ll only be 27 years old in 2013, and I could see him being the one guy to break out of this tier and give solid value, but the headache of three months straight where he gives a 5-ish ERA isn’t worth the payoff.  2014 Projections:  12-8/3.88/1.30/178

50. C.J. Wilson – Last year, I didn’t love Wilson, and I don’t this year either.  It’s not entirely because of his stupid Head & Shoulders commercials that played on a non-stop loop for 6 months straight last year and has me subconsciously scratching my scalp.  He’s had issues with walks in the past and, at age 33, I don’t think that’s going to suddenly disappear like his head eczema.  Without a 9 K-rate, he can’t absorb a 4+ walk rate.  2014 Projections: 13-11/3.93/1.35/172

51. Jake Peavy – I saw some ‘pert rank him about 20 spots higher, so that’s the only reason why I felt it was safe to rank him here.  He’s getting by on good vibes and bad farts.  He can’t stay healthy, his K-rate is just barely above whatever and falling and I don’t like his home park.  In conclusion, belch, fart, burp, which is appropriate since he looks winded.  2014 Projections:  13-9/3.98/1.21/149

52. Zack Wheeler – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Delgado.  I call this tier, “Thisclose.”  The tier name means I was thisclose to ranking these guys in the top 40 starters tier with Gerrit Cole and company, or Cole and Co. if they were selling comfortable shoes.  There’s real chance for upside here.  After Wheeler had a 5.06 ERA in his first month in the majors, his ERA for his final 84 innings over three months was 3.11.  That alone almost had me moving Wheeler up and I could see reaching for him if your staff is already solid with safe guys and you want some upside.  Unfortch, his K-rate, xFIP and walk rate wasn’t good in two of those three months.  August was the one month when he looked like he figured out this thing we call the major leagues.  At some point (probably by the 2nd half of this year), he’s going to be completely lights out and show his ace ability.  It’ll come down to when he stops making stupid boners and gets over his growing pains.  2014 Projections:  9-11/3.87/1.32/172

53. Clay Buchholz – Somewhere along the way I began to like Buchholz last year.  Since I’m from Jersey, it was probably around the time when he began to lather his arms in suntan lotion like he was headed to the tanning salon.  Did you know Coppertone International Suntanning Products, Inc’s stock shot up 3/8ths of a point every time Buchholz pitched?  This is true.  Also true, Buchholz’s reduced his bugaboo xFIP by nearly a run this year and finally got it down to a very decent 3.41.  He also pushed his K-rate up to 7.98 after it dangled around 6.50 for the last three years.  He achieved this by controlling his cutter better and more frequently.  He’s shown the ability to strikeout hitters at a 8+ K-rate before but it was coupled with no control (4.86 BB/9).  For Buchholz to vault to ace status, he just needs to gain a half K per nine and hold his reduced walk rate.  I think it’s all doable.  My biggest concern is he’s still yet to throw 190 innings in a year and he’s going to be 30.  I think we’re going to see a solid fantasy #2 for only two-thirds of a year.  2014 Projections:  13-4/3.34/1.22/117

54. A.J. Burnett – It’s ironic he hasn’t signed with a team yet since he’s all about the ink.  I’d be shocked if he doesn’t have a job by March.  If he does hang ‘em up by March, I could see him doing a stunod move and returning midseason.  There’s a bit of risk because of that, but I’d draft him assuming he’ll be on the O’s, Yanks or Pirates by Opening Day.  2014 Projections:  13-9/3.78/1.26/184

55. Corey Kluber – Another fact for a lot of the pitchers in this tier is I tried to squeeze them in much higher in the rankings, but there was always an issue that had me ranking them here.  Kluber had no problems with his peripherals.  He regularly threw 93+ MPH.  His xFIP was 3.10.  His walk rate was just above 2 and his K-rate was over 8.  That’s a guy you want on your pitching staff.  The only thing stopping him is he’s never come close to doing this before.  I mean, even in Triple-A he was kinda soul-suckingly bad.  Maybe something clicked last year that made him trust his stuff and he just started jamming the strike zone with his fastball.  He will only be 28 years old this year and if his finger injury is behind him (assuming he’s not just being coy and holding an injured finger behind his back), he could be a breakout guy.  To read more, here’s Sky’s Corey Kluber fantasy.  2014 Projections:  10-11/3.78/1.28/155

56. Ubaldo Jimenez – Love, love, love Ubaldo’s K-rate shooting up to 9.56 last year.  That was the best of his career.  He figured out how to pitch with a 91+ MPH fastball instead of his Colorado-aided 96+ MPH flash.  He threw sliders 25% of the time, realizing the only one in the AL Central that can get to sliders is Billy Butler and those sliders aren’t even pitches.  His walk rate is just too ugly for me to trust him completely.  Ubaldo’s only a hair better than Edinson Volquez — pun point!  Last year his 3.94 BB/9 was the 4th worst in the league.  If he loses just a half K with his newfound slide piece, he’s going to be a 4.50-ish pitcher and junky as all get out.  This is all assuming he signs with anyone but the Padres or Rockies before the season starts.  Also, five over-the-internet dollars says if he signs with the Angels, he’ll be in Propecia commercials.  2014 Projections:  12-12/3.89/1.35/189

57. Taijuan Walker – Already went over my Taijuan Walker fantasy.  I wrote it trying to eat a Charleston Chew without losing a tooth.  2014 Projections:  7-9/3.88/1.37/162 in 170 innings

58. Drew Smyly – He has ace stuff…according to his relief numbers.  Damn you, qualifier!  “Hello, is qualifier there?  It’s Grey Albright calling.  Yeah, I can leave a message.  Could you just tell qualifier to go screw itself?  Thanks!”  The Drew Smyly Show might be a thing of beauty this year, if he can do what he did in relief last year in the rotation.  I can’t for the life of me think why he would do the same in the rotation.  Also, for the life of me I can’t think what made us think that we were wise and we’d never compromise.  Great, now that stupid Verve Pipe song is stuck in my head.  It’s a solid upside gamble, but I’d expect closer to a 8-ish K-rate and a 3-ish BB/9 over about 110 innings.  Wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see him bounce back to the bullpen at some point.  2014 Projections:  7-4/3.34/1.16/96 in 110 IP

59. Randall Delgado – Damn, I really wanted to sneak Delgado into the Cole tier in the top 40 starters post.  If I could get as excited about a walk rate as I can about a strikeout rate, he would’ve made it.  If I could get the words “this” and “close” even closer, I would’ve for Delgado, but I don’t feel like futzing with fonts and shizz.  Last year, his walk rate was 1.78.  I really have no idea where that came from.  I’m totally guessing when I say I think he learned how to control his changeup and ended up throwing it a ton.  Prior to last year, his walk rates were in the mid-4’s.  Losing three walks per nine is unheard of, except for guys coming back from Tommy John, the surgery, not Tommy John’s Rib Shack.  And even when returning from surgery, it usually is a case of momentarily wildness.  Delgado was never a control artist.  The control is actually working against his strikeouts.  You need to throw some balls outside the strike zone that a hitter thinks are inside to get Ks.  Regularly, Delgado had a 8+ K-rate in the minors.  If he can do that with his miniscule walk rate, he could be in line for a huge year.  2014 Projections:  11-12/3.88/1.16/149

60. Martin Perez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 80 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “Come here, Dumpling Face.”  This tier is pretty self-explanatory.  Kidding.  It’s basically a bunch of guys that are either Ghosts of Sleepers Past or just guys that I generally like.  As recently as last year, all of these guys had neon signs above their heads flashing, “Draft me” or “Grab me off waivers” or “Just give me a little taste of love, you big lug.”  The glow is off them a bit, but they could still breakout.  Once again, I’ll say it:  there are so many decent pitchers.  Perez is similar to Delgado, just to a slightly lesser extent.  He dropped his walk rate a ton last year, but also his K-rate.  Being in the AL and Arlington is working against him.  Working for him is his age (23 in April) and potential.  2014 Projections:  12-8/3.78/1.29/111

  1. Matt says:
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    Good stuff here.

    A simple yes or no will do for these two questions. This is a keep forever dynasty, 5×5.

    My Reddick for his Dominguez

    My Beltre for his Wright

    Thanks! Cant freakin wait for 61-80

    • KrazyCeltic says:
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      @Matt: Reddick for his Dominguez: no
      My Beltre for his Wright: yes

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Matt: Thanks! I agree with Celtic… Really see no point in doing the Beltre trade though…

  2. MB says:
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    Lorena Bobbitt hahaha, that was funny

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @MB: Hehe

      • Ron Fairly says:
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        @Grey: Yes, a good reference, but it may have been more appropriate in the Wheeler discussion to help him stop making stupid boners.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Cool

  3. Alex says:
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    So looking at Lynn’s splits past two seasons (2.82/3.28 at home, over 5.15/4.15 road), is it as simple as just starting him at home?

    Shit, maybe I should just trade him for hashy lincy

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Alex: A 15-ish starts a year starter isn’t worth drafting so maybe, but bleh…

      • Andrew A says:
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        @Grey:

        I’m sure you could get more than 15 starts out of him if you play him on the road against weaker opponents/stadiums and when he is on a hot streak. If your league has a bench, this may actually be one of the better platoon plays. You can also add in the chance Lynn improves to the point where you don’t need to platoon him.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Guess depends on the depth of your league… Kinda like taking a Rockies starter…

  4. Wheeler in the sky says:
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    Wow, not buying a bounce-back from the Shark huh? I’m pretty amazed he hasn’t been ranked yet. He’s going to be the kind of guy who will be all over the place in rankings this year, but he’d personally be in my top 40. I get that’s he’s inconsistent and has a small track record of success though.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Wheeler in the sky: Bounce back to what, the 3.80 ERA and 9 wins he had in 2012?

      • Jay says:
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        @Cram It: awesome. truly awesome.

      • Wheeler in the sky says:
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        @Cram It:

        As bad as you think he was last year he had a 3.46 xFIP and was 46th in P war. I’m not saying he’s an ace, but he’s a whole lot better than you are implying and will be a top 50 SP.

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Wheeler in the sky: Surprised me too. However, as it says on over the internet penny’s, In Grey We Trust…

  5. Beardcrabs says:
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    Yeezus, I didn’t realize pitching was this deep…

  6. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Pitching is so deep, it makes ‘The Abyss’ look like it was filmed in a kiddie pool.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Sky: Pitching is so deep, Buddha can’t wait for 61-80

    • Cram It says:
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      @Sky: Pitching is so deep, Sky couldn’t wait for this post, to continue on day 2 of talking about how deep pitching is.

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Cram It: No doubt Cram, I am just waiting for Sky to post a picture of the Grand Canyon with a title of Pitching is so Deep, it makes the Grand Canyon look as small as Christy Canyon’s brain

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          @Count de Monetball: I’ll do my best to create a brain ‘splodin meme today. Art can’t be rushed!

          • Count de Monetball says:
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            @Sky: ***Tapping toes, twittling thumbs, dreaming of Tehol… oh Sh*t, did I type that, I gotta think of a line fast…***

        • Cram It says:
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          @Sky: @Count de Monetball: Pitching is so deep, the Grand Canyon called and wants its Hakatai Shale back.

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @Cram It: Ha! It must trend, Cram. It must…

  7. 2 Giant rings says:
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    (20 teams) I’m considering drafting 7 bats in the first 7rounds. A closer in the 8th. Then 3, maybe 4 starters in rounds 9-12. It seems there will be plenty of quality starters between picks 175 and 255. I’ll just pick off the best available in that window. Approve?

    • Ben says:
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      @2 Giant rings: I’m no Rudy/Grey, but I approve. There’s an uncommonly beautiful chunk of legit K/9 type SP’s ADP’d at 90 – 150… Back-to-back-to-back-to-back SP rounds 9-13…. Sure, “wins” may be middle of the pack at best, as these are not 220 inning Cliff Lee type dudes– but ef wins. It’s a hokey category. Pat yourself on the back for being top 3 in the 9 other categories & winning your league.

    • Cram It says:
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      @2 Giant rings: Agree with Grey. Solid strategy in a 10-12 teamer. But 20 teams… no bueno

  8. bossmanjunior says:
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    Loved reading the recap of your yahoo draft. You certainly brought the skill and humor. My only qualm was with the Kinsler and Tillman picks. I was honestly surprised when you selected Kinsler, but I suppose he was great value for that round. I was screaming for you to wait for Jerko but then you ended up snagging him a couple rounds later. With the Tillman pick, I personally would have gone with Archer. Best of all, your whole team has pants!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @bossmanjunior: Ha, thanks! Yeah, didn’t love the Kinsler pick but didn’t love the bats on the board there and figured he’d at least get me 12-20 steals…And it was a mock, so there’s that…

  9. Curt says:
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    Did Alex Wood just miss???…….or is he more risky or unknown.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Curt: He’ll be coming…

  10. kingforaday151 says:
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    Would you trade away Cliff Lee for Eric Hosmer in a dynasty league? It’d leave me with J-Zimm, Gio, Cole, and Medlen as possible keeper starters (10 keepers). Worried about not having a solid 1B going in to the season…Goldy, A-Gon, Craig, Encarnacion, Votto, Freeman, Fielder, Rizzo, and Pujols are already off the draft board.

    • Cram It says:
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      @kingforaday151: Who would you be trading them for?

      • Cram It says:
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        @Cram It: I misread that, carry on.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @kingforaday151:

      keeper starters ?
      don’t you keep everyone in a dynasty ??

      but , yeah ,
      give up lee for hosmer .

    • KrazyCeltic says:
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      @kingforaday151: Yes, I think now’s the time to make a deal like that.

      • kingforaday151 says:
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        @Grey: thanks guys. no keeper costs, i guess that’s what i meant by dynasty.

  11. Tigres says:
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    Your Josh Johnson ranking might be even more aggressive than Alex Cobb’s. Especially since Cobb is awesome. But, yeah, looking now at JJ’s 2013 numbers (K:BB > 2.5, 356 BABIP), he could bounce back a bit, esp in Petco. Could be a good pair with Medlen/Ryu types who will be solid but with lower K rates.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tigres: Yeah, I like Johnson a lot this year (that’s what she said), but he’s far from exciting, and I know that…

  12. Eric W says:
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    E-S-T-R-A-D-A!
    E-S-T-R-A-D-A!!
    E-S-T-R-A-D-A!!!

    Thanks for the rankings!

    • Yeshcheese says:
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      @Eric W: perhaps as the greatest testament to SP depth, Grey hasn’t even ranked the Brewers entire rotation!! Get em on the cheap boys!

        • bostoneagle5 says:
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          @Grey: @Grey: Thought you guys were joking, but didn’t see Garza/Gallardo at all. Wow.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            I don’t want them…

  13. Chris says:
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    Grey (and others)–test of strength on how much you like Wheeler and Eric Hosmer…in dynasty Ottoneu points…

    Hosmer (19) and Janssen (6) for Wheeler (11) and Granderson (17).

    Who wins and by how much?

    • P Swayz on a Horse says:
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      @Chris:

      I’d go with the H.and. J.ob ‘viously

  14. Rotorankers.tumblr.com says:
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    I like Cashner and Medlen a lot this year. The rest of these guys are trash. Pitching is about 42 deep for me…that’s still deep.

    • Richie says:
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      @Rotorankers.tumblr.com:
      Those 2 and Salazar are my 3 targets to round out my staff. Have three of greys top 11 as keepers already.

      • rotorankers.tumblr.com says:
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        @Richie: Agreed. I want to Sonny Greys, Cashners, Medlens, etc.

  15. Yeshcheese says:
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    Anybody else think Tillman is just the least sexy lick of all time? I want to like him. But he doesn’t have enough hype! I want to salivate over the hype!!

    • Yeshcheese says:
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      @Yeshcheese: oh, iPhone…

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Wake Up: That’s funny, I thought the least sexy “lick” of all time was the wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald. Could you imagine a stripper dancing to that?

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Count de Monetball: She’d have to have 2 dads! Best one I ever saw was to “Talkin Bear Mountain Picnic”…

          • Count de Monetball says:
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            @Wake Up: Isn’t that a Dylan song? HAHAHA, that is freaking hilarious!!!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Yo, I’m really happy for you and Ima let you finish but this has to be one of the least sexy licks of all time…OF ALL TIME

  16. dude says:
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    My probable keeper list (12 team 5×5 roto, we keep 15)

    C- Pierzenyski
    1B – Fielder
    2B – Hill
    3B – Middlebrooks
    SS – Xander (After he plays 10 games)
    OF – Harper
    OF – J. Upton
    OF – Rios
    OF – Springer
    U –
    SP (Start 5) – Scherzer, A. Sanchez, Ryu, Gray, Samardzija
    RP (Start 3) – Cook
    SP/RP –

    I have 1 FA pickup to use up before we draft in March and these are the best players available. Are there a couple of players here to consider keeping over what I currently have? Thinking I could use a RP, if so how to they rank? A couple of the OF and SP are interesting to me as well. If nothing else maybe could use one as trade bait?

    C- Gomes
    1B – Tex
    2B – Walker
    SS – Jeter
    3B – Moustakas, M. Dominguez
    OF – A. Garcia, M. Byrd, Span, Morse, c. Young, E. Young
    SP – Kluber, Estrada
    RP – Feliz, N. Jones, T. Hunter

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @dude:

      moustakas , kluber , estrada
      all better keeps than a.j. pierz

      • dude says:
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        @costaricanchata:
        What do you guys think of A. Garcia? Or should I focus elsewhere since I already have solid OF?

        Would also like to go into the draft with at least one closer. Of those listed, how would you rank them?

    • Cram It says:
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      @dude: Agreed, don’t keep Pierzynski.

    • Hawk says:
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      @dude:

      If Tanaka is available, he’d be number one on the list

  17. SMLV1 says:
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    Moore or Garza? Who has the better year?

  18. Jon says:
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    I have room to keep 6 or 7 pitchers (we keep 18). Harvey is one. My top four for this year are Cobb, Bailey, Zimm and Masterson. Jansen would be my only reliever. Would you add Porcello, Medlen or Cashner to that group, or push hard for a trade of one of them for a bat with upside for my UTIL spot (rest of my hitter spots are filled), like Arenado or Lawrie?

    I could also lose Jansen, trade for a bat, and still keep one of those “SP3s”, who would be my SP5. (My league carries 10+ SPs, though, so my SP5 is more like SP3 for most leagues.)

    More simply put: Which 2, knowing most of my roster is set? Jansen, Porcello, Medlen, Cashner, Arenado/Lawrie

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Jansen, Porcello (or Arenado)

  19. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Pitching is so deep Jack Handy won’t draft one.
    Pitching is deeper than the front pockets of Grey’s mom jeans. #hesgotoursnacksinthere

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Mike: Ha!

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Mike: LMAO, nice one MIKE!

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Count de Monetball: Correction, nice two, wait that sounds kinda weird….

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Mike: Could someone get this man a bucket of water over here? HE’S ON FIRE

  20. jiggles says:
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    6 player keeper league trade proposition:
    Robinson Cano for Madison Bumgarner and Max Scherzer, which side do you want?

    • KrazyCeltic says:
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      @jiggles: I like the Bum and Scherzer return. The only way the person trading Cano doing this does not make sense is if he already has a number of SP keepers. Then he’d maybe gamble on flipping one of those SP’s for a hitter. Hopefully the net gain is better than having kept Cano.

  21. Jon says:
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    Not a SP question, but could you give me some idea of how Heyward and Arenado compare in value over the next few years? Which one would you want?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Coin flip… Arenado, better position…

  22. Wake Up says:
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    I was contemplating draft strategy last night…realized, r has a fixed point…fell asleep…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: no idea what that means or what I said means…nah mean?

        I just heard it in my beautiful mind…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You working for the FBI?

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: Me? No. But, I’m pretty sure that Mike Minor is!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Well, yeah!

  23. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    1. where does e.santana fit in if he goes to neutral stadium?
    2. erasmo not near griffin? I’m guessing erasmo’s upside for future (next few years) is better though?

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: just over a month ago you told me in dynasty at same cost that trading griffin for erasmo was good idea. i got a pick thrown in as well.

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: actually got 2 picks (both 5th round, one this year, one next) thrown in.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’m not ranking for dynasty here

          • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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            @Grey: sorry, i misread that you were answering the first part and not 2nd part of #2. you meant for just this year griffin is better than erasmo but erasmo DOES have future upside higher than griffin. I know the list is for this year only.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, Erasmo has much more upside and can be better this year…

  24. millenball says:
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    Pitching got deep like a navy seal

  25. Bill S. Preston, Esq. says:
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    Not sure if someone else has posted this, but yahoo opened their league yesterday, and the only position eligibility change I have seen that might matter is they have Brett Lawrie at 2B, as well as 3B. Where do you put him in relation to Utley, Kendrick, Miller?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Freakin’ Yahoo and their stupid eligibility… I have him, Miller and Profar in the 140?s overall…

  26. Miles says:
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    draft strategy question:
    For a roto 5×5 league, what do you typically do to fill your BENCH spots? load up pitching, backup weak positions, load up best available hitters, grab steals, something else? any rhyme or reason, method to the madness?
    you will probably agree that those last 4-5 spots can make a big difference.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Depends how many teams… Mostly just pitchers, I’ll go over draft strategy…

  27. Bream Dream says:
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    Pitching is sooo deep, Hubble has to squint to see my third starter.

  28. Jay says:
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    16 team H2H league scores QS in pitching as well. We are required to keep 2 pitchers.
    currently keeping Wainwright and then a choice of a couple of “ah maybe’s” including the likes of
    Hamels, Moore, Liriano, Lester

    Which one is the right pairing with Wainwright.

    One other thought, I don;t pick in the first or second round after keepers so do I keep three pitchers and throw back Profar? (hitter keepers…McCutchen, E5, Desmond, Heyward, Machado, Profar)?

    Thanks Grey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t like any of these pitchers as my rankings say except Liriano…. They are ranked though…

  29. Michael says:
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    Just saw your yahoo mock draft with the friends and family. What did you think in that draft? You took power early.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I always take power early

  30. Swagger Jackers says:
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    It’ll come down to when he stops making stupid boners and gets over his growing pains.

    WUT

  31. Swagger Jackers says:
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    Pitching is so deep Grey is making weird boner references in Zack Wheeler’s blurb.

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Swagger Jackers: Question…If you don’t get the reference…does that make it weird?…or does it just mean that you should try harder?

      • Swagger Jackers says:
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        @Wake Up: There are plenty of jokes I don’t get around here but when they focus around the phrase “making stupid boners” I’d say it conjures up a pretty weird visual.

        • Prez says:
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          @Swagger Jackers: look what you did swag… You got Wake questioning his existence now..

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Swagger Jackers: I was just curious…Wheeler is going through growing pains…Growing Pains was a TV show…one character was named Boner…I thought it was very funny…the only thing that is weird around here is still having an invisible horse avi…wink…

          • Prez says:
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            @Wake Up: you just wait… I have one on my mind! You just wait! And prezii is comin back… You just wait til my computer starts up in a couple weeks!

            • Wake Up says:
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              @Prez: Prezzii never left in my heart…

              • Prez says:
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                @Wake Up: that was touching..

          • SwaggerJackers says:
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            @Wake Up: I’m pretty sure that Wheeler blurb was just a typo that should have read:

            It’ll come down to when he stops getting stupid boners and gets over his growing pains.

            It can’t be easy to pitch with a boner…

  32. Dave says:
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    Could you rank these keepers? I can likely only keep 2. It’s a 10-team AL-only league.

    Gausman – rd 14, Straily – rd 13, De Aza – rd 12, Reddick – rd 13, and Brantley – rd 13.

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      When do you have to decide?

      • Dave says:
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        @Grey: I’ve got til about March 1st

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hold then… I wanna see if the Mariners get Nelson Cruz…

  33. J-FOH says:
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    Pitching is so deep Bill James predicted Chris Davis’s home run breakout 5 years ago!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I hear mom jeans are in vogue and went to go buy some when I realized I’ve been wearing mom jeans this whole time

        • Wake Up says:
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          @J-FOH: NAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNTS INGONYAMA MASI BLAHBLAH …Circle of life…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I make these mom jeans look good.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I thought I was fat but realized it was just the mom jeans, if I wasn’t a never nude I would of none, now I’m rethinking everything

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Mom jeans jorts are da bomb!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: Mojorts are the latest thing!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Are those knee-length jorts?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I have really short quads

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

  34. Carnac says:
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    Yovani Gallardo slowly pulls his truck into a Chevron station. He squints at his iphone through misty eyes, hitting refresh on Razzball, still not seeing his name. His voice cracks, “Todd, I’m gonna need another igloo cup of wine…”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA!

  35. Bream Dream says:
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    Pitching is deeper than Charlie Sheen’s “rock bottom”. (it was close)

  36. mike b says:
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    As much as I want to be annoying and ask a question regarding a player who has not made this list due to lack of track record or unknown call-up date (Walker&Bradley), I’ll stick to the aforementioned subjects in this writeup…if you had to pick a few names here who get the biggest bump in a QS league who would it be?

    George: “I long for you Josh Johnson.”
    Jerry: “you said ‘I long for you?’ “

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha… Bunch of the guys in the pee/poop combo tier… Kuroda, Ryu, Medlen, etc

      • mike b says:
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        @Grey:
        Surprised to hear you name 3 guys on good teams. At first glance they’d seem to have an inflated win-loss record and thus receive a more generous ranking. Looking forward to overall rankings soon!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Cool

  37. Prez says:
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    Pitching is so deep… Mom jeans… Invisible horse.. Talking fox… Gif… No way bra!

    There, im hip now.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Prez: nice try slugger

      • Prez says:
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        @J-FOH: one day ill be hip like Sky… One day..

        *stares out window and sighs*

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Prez: and by window you mean hole in your cardboard box and by hip do you mean socially up to date and by one day do you mean three years from now when the statute of limitations expires and you can come back out from the underground like the A-Team.

          • Prez says:
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            Precisely!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      What does the fox say?

      • Prez says:
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        @Grey: tiny paws up the hill? Suddenly, im standing still?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Best song

      • Prez says:
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        @Grey: easily..

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Love the Fat Joe riff at the end…

          • Prez says:
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            @Grey: LD gets deep sometimes yo! Almost as bout as deep as pi…. Nevermind…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha… As deep as Chicago pizza?! Huh?! Right?!

              • Prez says:
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                @Grey: haha exactly! I just didnt want to say it cuz i figured most of you are hungry…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Just ate lunch, thank you very much!

                  • Prez says:
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                    @Grey: i just got a fatt adams burger… Its bigger than life!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Does it also have nipples?

                    • Prez says:
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                      No, unfortch, it didnt.. dont worry, i dabbed two dime sized amounts of ketchup on the top bun.. people asked me if i made a face on my bun and i awkwardly replied, “yeah, thats what it is, sure….”

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Prez: our resident little dick is bringing back lil dickey, who is better than Retnal Aberation Dickey

      • Prez says:
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        @J-FOH: i thought it was Rectal Annihilation Dickey? Oh no wait, that was the dvd you were trying to sell me last week!

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Prez: trying, you order it i deliver it

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Prez: the book was better…

          • Prez says:
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            @Wake Up: haha nice…

            Wait, what was that? I dont understand you! Speak normal, you klingon!

  38. Grant says:
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    We keep 3 players a year, 2 hitters and a pitcher, yes I know its a little weird but thats ok. Anyway. I have James Shields and Homer Bailey looking to be my top two possible keepers, who would you like? I also have the study Gray just chilling. Would it be worth it to keep him over those two. This is a keep forever, no dollar values involved. I kept Harvey last year over a couple better ranked options, and that worked wonders. I know you said Gray could be this years Harvey, and I would be mad if I missed out on him in the draft. 14 team league.

    • KrazyCeltic says:
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      @Grant: Weird little quirks from league to league is what makes them special, and keeps me affectionately interested in some.

      This is a keep forever league, so that influences my advice. Shields might be the “best” of those pitchers as of last year, but he should be hitting his decline that comes with age soon. Bailey is attractive in the sense that he imparts the confidence of keeping a veteran. However, hits against him are that he has disappointed so often in the past that you might feel a bit of unease wondering if he has turned the corner and can be elite. He’s had two good – but not elite – years in a row. I personally feel like what you’ve seen in 2012 and 2013 is Bailey maxed out.

      I’d go with potential. Sonny Gray has a much smaller sample size and is more of a gamble because of that, but he has pedigree and has matched his minor league success without a hitch in his first major league action. His K/9 at all levels and his great curveball and good fastball backs him up, and he has the bonus of playing for a good team (wins, yay!) and pitching home games in a friendly park.

      Furthermore in Gray’s favor is the fact that you are so attached to him and believe in him so much that it will seriously hurt if you miss him in the draft. You have admitted this. I know the feeling, and the feeling of losing the gamble of putting a player back in the draft and not getting him back. In a keep forever league where you intend to play forever you have to follow your gut and keep the guys you really like.

      • KrazyCeltic says:
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        @KrazyCeltic: One more point that I forgot to mention: if you keep Gray, you’re passing over two guys (Shields and Bailey) who might actually put up better numbers than Gray will this year. It’s plausible and easier to project. Gray is more of an upside play and should be particularly nice to own as you keep him in the years to come. Normally I don’t like to “play for next season” but I don’t feel like you’re doing that this season. First reason is because Gray could put up the same or very similar numbers as Shields and Bailey. The second reason is because every team in your league can keep only 1 pitcher. That means there will be a ton of very good pitchers available in the draft. If you feel the need to pick a veteran top-20 type in the draft, go ahead. If you recognize the depth of the SP position this season and follow Grey’s advice, you can wait a few rounds and pick up one of the many 3.50-ish ERA guys.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Grant: per last few days posts and rankings, Bailey

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grant: @goodfold2: shit, i answered this before i even read farther than bailey vs shields. whichever it is don’t make it shields.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Grant:

      since only 14 pitchers will be kept next year ,
      keep the best one you have for this year .

      chances are you’ll draft someone better than anyone
      you currently have on your roster .

      it’s as simple as that .

  39. KrazyCeltic says:
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    May I ask an off-topic-for-this-post-but-not-for-this-blog question? Who do you see as this year’s Josh Donaldson, Chris Davis, Edwin Encarnacion, Jose Bautista, 2007 Victorino, or 2008 Jayson Werth? A veteran who has underwhelmed and then all of a sudden turns it on and becomes one of the higher-ranked players at his position? It seems like it usually happens to guys who have shown a lot of power (either in the high minors or in part-time duty), flounder for a couple years, and then succeed after moving to a new team. The latter did not apply to Donaldson. My best guess is Todd Frazier. What’s yours?

  40. Big Al says:
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    Didn’t see GB% in your pitching stats for 2013. Can you recommend a link for that Stat. Also would like to join a league or 2 in Razzball. How do I join up ?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      League signups don’t start until ESPN opens its doors… And not until I’m done with my rankings, about a week is my guess… I get GB% from Fangraphs…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: really?I thought you got them from the GB% Gnomes…..this sounds like I’m being a jerk to you but I am really shocked at the question. Fangraphs gets a daily comment reference. Hey I’m a dick and i just can’t help it.

  41. Bill S. Preston, Esq. says:
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    Another Yahoo issue, Hanley is only eligible at SS, not at 3B.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s actually my bad… Fixing now…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks for the heads up! Fixed…

  42. J-FOH says:
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    I’m starting to lash out at everyone around me. I’m filled with all this information and can’t wait to start using it. Why must I go through this every year, january Grey gets me all excited with his fantasy ranks porn and then I go to relieve myself and all I have is dial up. Yeah that’s an analogy.

    We need a term for the syndrome/disease where we start getting a little crazy waiting for leagues to open so we can start drafting

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Come up with something…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I have ROIDS: Restless Online Imbecile Draft Syndrome

        I wanted to beat someone last night for giving my buddy attitude over a cover charge, I’m losing it over here.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @J-FOH: you mean your buddy was the bouncer getting the cover charge, or your buddy was the guy not wanting to pay the cover charge and you wanted to beat the bouncer?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @goodfold2: buddy was the bouncer

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha… I kinda like that…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: Razzball: better than therapy because it’s free

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Or at least better than free therapy…Are those people even licensed?

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: by the bartenders school of America

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @J-FOH: or as I like to call them the BS of America

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  You put that in a tumbler?!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: in a highball

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      With a splash of sarcasm…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: and a twist of condescending snark

        • Robby D says:
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          @J-FOH: I just run around the house like Steve Martin in the Jerk when he’s yelling: “The new phone books are here!”

          My wife then locks herself in our bedroom until April.

  43. Will says:
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    No Gerardo Parra in the top 100 OF? Thought he could do a .275/8/15 season for a few years

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s a platoon guy with Pollock

  44. goodfold2 says:
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    pretty sure jeff baker signs on somewhere, even if all he does if hit lefties?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @goodfold2: if it’s likely i’ll bid league minimum on him and pick him up (but only if I don’t get 3 of those crappy starters/backups listed before). i’m pretty sure baker (if he signs) will be worth more than schumaker. at least baker will hit homers against lefties in his small number of at bats.

  45. Mike G says:
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    Grey, I need some celebrity advice. Yahoo FB Pro Leagues this year have some serious bugs that make it easy to cheat. What would you do if you were already exposed, like $1000+?

    I have been working with this guy Mike Graben who is an engineer, there, but I do not think they can fix what is broken, given that they’ve already thrown the barn doors wide open. Customer Care is broken, too, and without that working, not much chance of getting a refund.

    The deal is that once you sign up, you pick a time you want to draft and you are immediately dumped in a league. If there are only a few of you, then you can just pick the same league over and over, stacking your own teams up in a money league situation. Now, it may require separate Yahoo IDs to do this cheat, but the fact remains that not putting new players in a pool and then randomly assigning them is a recipe for disaster (or for organized crime to clean up).

    Too heavy for end-of-Jan?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know how to answer this… I’ve never done Yahoo Pro Leagues and wouldn’t… Can you get back your money? If so, I would…

      • Mike G says:
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        @Grey: Yes, I am trying. It’s like Customer Care is conveniently broken, now. This is such a damn shame because setting up a secure money league isn’t rocket science. I can’t tell if Y! is just good-hearted but incompetent or what. Surely they aren’t evil?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I just don’t think they care if a few hundred, or even thousand, people are annoyed…

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Grey: that’s inept even for yahoo.

    • Jason says:
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      @Mike G: similar issues exists in online poker. it’s inherent to the online model, but for your situation i’ts allot of trouble to go through to cheat without any guarantee of winning, so I highly doubt it’s happening in a league for $1K.

      • Mike G says:
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        @Jason: Not with a large enough group of people. The point is to make it very difficult, indeed, by randomly assigning teams to leagues with an additional set of rules to block certain conditions. This is not happening at Yahoo right now. You just signup, pick a draft date/time, then you get added to the league that is associated with that date/time. It’s not anywhere it needs to be for a service as great as Yahoo’s.

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @Mike G:

          huh ?
          i don’t get it .
          you cheat .
          you’re up a thousand bucks ,
          and now you want your money back ??
          is that correct ?
          what am i missing ??

          • Mike G says:
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            @costaricanchata: To your last question: everything. Not a single thing your wrote was in any way correct. You are out of your element, Donnie.

  46. Robby D says:
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    Is Zobrist valuable enough to keep in a 10 team H2H where we have to keep 6 each. In other words, is he top 60, and do we know if he keeps 2B/SS/OF eligibility in ESPN?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No idea of your options… He’s not top 60 for me…

      • Robby D says:
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        @Grey: wasn’t thinking in terms of options, just an absolute ranking. I’ve seen him as high as 50 something in someone’s rollup, but I thought he’d be closer to 100 and only if he keeps all three position eligibility. Thanks.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I currently have him at 89…

  47. One Man Crusade says:
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    Do you like Machado or Rosario better in long term keeper format? There are 170 players kept yearly in a roto format

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Machado

  48. E says:
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    Would you keep liriano in the last round over wacha? This year only

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  49. G.W. James says:
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    Dear commenter Bill,

    No, I am not interested in “having a catch with you.” No, we cannot have a “stat-off.” No, I will not be your “best friend.” My attorneys have advised you to desist.

    You still owe me $3 for this month.

    Go Bears!

    Yours,
    G.W. James

  50. Boomer19 says:
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    I have the option of drafting last or second to last in our 13 team 5×5 roto league. Is there an advantage to being on the corner of the snake or should I pick the second to last draft spot? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Doesn’t matter… Just take the second to last pick…

    • Negligible change in value. I prefer 12th b/c I can look at the turn’s roster to determine who to take before the turn vs after

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: if the guy in the 13th slot would be your friend and you can personally screw him over every 2 rounds it’s better than neglible value. a few times this has happened to me and my buddy in fantasy football league(s). it’s fun as hell.

        • I was thinking auction value impact. But screw r friend value is a bonus

  51. Landru says:
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    Great stuff as always, Grey.

    Looking for keeper advice.. 12-team points league, 6 keepers. I have 10 candidates:

    Votto
    CarGo
    Aroldis
    Homer
    RZimmerman
    Gio
    Minor
    Latos
    Choo
    Rios

    You are a major reason I won the league last year, so the pressure’s all on you. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Votto, CarGo, Choo, Rios, Zimmerman, Homer…

      • Landru says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. No Aroldis because of closer volatility?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  52. J-FOH says:
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    Boneface gets DFAed

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup… He’ll land somewhere else… Hopefully somewhere better…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: good thing i didn’t trade for him a few weeks ago. would’ve been ellis for boneface. Starting catchers in this league are very rare. i’ll either just stick with ellis and d’arnaud or wait for good deal for ellis. elsewhere that miggy owner got took real bad, even after I told him the deal he was getting wasn’t enough. He took even less, this:
        miggy and parker for f-her and profar.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Doesn’t mean anything, Bonifacio could end up somewhere better…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: could end up on Dodgers, that would be really interesting if Guerrero takes time. Better than Chonies

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Prefer Dee Gordon for fantasy, but yeah he could…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I think Dee needs to hang out with Billy Butler and Matt Adams for some fantasy fat camp and get above 150 lbs

            • Moobs would make for great airbags to brace the fall when sliding head first

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha

    • KC is a Boneface Killer! Yay, made my 2014 Rap Reference quota!

  53. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    if i’m about to join a league with these stipulations: 16-20 teams, 25 man rosters with 5 DL and 5 NA slots. we all have to name our teams after real life teams and at all times have at least 9 players on that real life team (could be NA players, so really this isn’t huge stepping stone); weird part comes in with comish being so against streaming that we HAVE to have exactly 5 starters on our team at any time. this won’t actually cut down on streaming since we have no pickup limit. can only start at most 3 SP per day though, unless they count as RP. we have 7 RP slots/ 2 SP/1 any pitcher. saves/holds/QS. dynasty league where we could keep as many people as we want per year (up to 25). H2H league.
    tell me if i’m right in these strategic adjustments in drafting a league like this.
    1. draft a small number of really good pitchers (2 or 3?) stream the other 2 or 3.
    2. draft a lot of closers/elite holds guys in the places where normally we would grab starters (i’m familiar with having a lot of starters in H2H leagues).
    3. possibly even draft closers/elite set-up guys even early than normal (2 rounds earlier than standardly)

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @J-FOH: probably right, but if everyone can only own 5 starters, that would actually make for very good streamers running around, since only 100 starters could actually be owned at any time.

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: comish already has a hockey league like this (trying to approximate real life conditions of a team) but the concept may not correlate as well to baseball.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: it really doesn’t because if he did he would allow 6-7 SP because sometimes long relief will spot start plus call ups

            • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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              @J-FOH: i know.

              • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: but do those draft adjustments seem about right, or should i actually try to get 4 or 5 really good starters that i would never intend to drop?

  54. Andy says:
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    14 Team H2H Keeper League (OBP instead of Avg)

    Teams must keep 4 players but can keep up to 6

    Current Keepers: Felix, Prince, CarGo, McCutchen, and Bruce

    I know your a big fan of Bruce this year but with my current keepers would you trade Bruce for Wright?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure

  55. Paul says:
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    So Grey, what was more appealing, the opportunity to engage other ‘perts in the Yahoo draft or the chance to make 20 quips?

    Errr….nevermind.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  56. Alex says:
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    Hola, what percent chance you give Cody Allen to take over for Axford?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      About 25%

  57. Matt says:
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    What do you think about Cory Luebke? If he can crack the starting rotation how much value do you think he’ll be as a late-round flyer?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’ve ranked him, just not yet…

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        knew it .
        my sleeper pick …. exposed .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gonna be in the bullpen to start the year…

          • Matt says:
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            Do you think there’s a good chance he’ll be in the rotation by midseason then?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Likely, yeah

  58. Chris says:
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    Am I nuts or did I just over look Samardjiza being listed in the top 60? Either is possible!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He hasn’t been ranked yet

      • Chris says:
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        a 200 k guy not in the top 60. I trust you and can’t wait for the post!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          He’s also a guy that has a 4+ ERA in his career…

  59. Jay_0321 says:
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    Major trade question here. I am being offered Tulo and Strasburg for Votto and Waino. All players are keepers. The kicker is that the guy with Tulo and Stras is asking me for my pick in the first keeper round (3rd overall). The guy with the first keeper pick is locked in on Taveras. The guy with the second pick is a question mark. My question is do I trade my pick which I feel is asking too much on top of Votto and Waino or hold with the thoughts of using my keeper pick in the draft? Next, do I take the chance on Harvey with this pick? I know he’ll be out, but this is the only chance he becomes a keeper. My thoughts is that the guy before me burns his pick on Abreu.

    Thanks as always,

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d prefer Abreu, but have no idea who else will be in your draft besides the two names you’re telling me… So I guess Harvey… That trade is solid for you…

      • Jay_0321 says:
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        @Grey: 100 top names are off the board. My team consists of Cutch, Votto, Waino, Pedi, Jones, Segura, E5, Gray, Gyorko, Chapman.

        Available players are Miggy, Cano, Darvish, Choo, Pujols, Holliday, Zimmerman. Not much in the hitting player pool.

        Basically, Latos, JZimm, Trumbo will be late first to early second round picks.

        So you think its ok to trade my Votto, Waino and very valuable 3rd overall keeper pick (6th rd) for Tulo and Stras? I would be returned the 10th overall keeper pick.

        If I held, I would be taking the chance that Harvey falls to me at the 3rd pick in the keeper round.

        Do I take the chance of potentially losing out on Harvey for the prospects of Stras and Tulo?

        Thoughts?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d take Tulo, Stras

  60. Jon says:
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    Settle a debate for me: Who has more value over the next 3 years? Miggy or Harvey. Gotta be Miggy since he’s playing this year and he’s the hitter, right?

    What if it’s over the next 5 instead of the next 3?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy

  61. Jon says:
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    Would you deal Jansen for Arenado? (Keep 18 league, keep forever)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s fair, I wouldn’t…

  62. SteveNZ says:
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    Just signed up for my H2H league again. Why do I keep doing this to myself?

    • TheNewGuy says:
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      @SteveNZ: Because you know we all chuckle at hearing your sunday night cursing at the smallest things.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: it is nice to see others in the same boat as me on sunday night

  63. Fish says:
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    A Keyshawn Johnson reference???

    … So you do know football!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  64. Tony Videtto says:
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    Need a hand with keeper selection.

    Play in a 12 team h2h keeper league. Opinion on which 8 I should keep. All the players without brackets can be kept without losing picks next 3 years.

    C. Buster Posey
    1B. Prince Fielder, Matt Adams
    2B. Jurkinson Profar, Anthony Rendon
    SS. Brad Miller
    3B. Evan Longoria, Anthony Rendon
    OF. Alex Gordon (Burn a 4th or 6th round pick next year)
    SP. Matt Latos (I would burn a 4th round pick this year, which is like a 7th-9th round pick in a non keeper draft in our league).
    Matt Moore (Burn a 6th round pick next year), Kris Medlen, Andrew Cashner, Alex Wood

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Latos, Longo, Miller, Gordon, Fielder, Adams, Posey, Medlen…

      • Tony Videtto says:
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        Why no love for Rendon and Profar?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I like them, they’re not in the conversation for your keepers…

          • Tony V says:
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            Would it the players be different if it was a Points Based System, where scoring based on total stats each period? Strikeouts are a negative.

            Curious that you have Medlen over Moore given your rankings.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Leagues are different, you can see my projections, if you think one guy would be better in your league than straight roto, then I’d adjust…

  65. Matt says:
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    Assuming Feliz wins the closing gig with TEX, do you think him or AJ Griffin has a higher 2014 fantasy value? (Both are $10, down to my last keeper choice).

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