Comments on: Top 60 Starters, 2011 Fantasy Baseball

By: tommy

tommy — Sun, 30 Jan 2011 03:10:48 +0000

I gotta tell you I think Danks is a lot better than 57. He didn’t have a career year or a resurection like some of the previous contestants. He’s not overwhelming w/ his numbers but he’s pretty solid and consistant….boring I guess. He’s stayed healthy so far. On a pretty good offensive team he should be good for 12-16 wins while providing solid ERA and whip totals. I’m ranking him 40th. Yes limited upside, but you know what you are getting: 3rd or 4th starter.

By: Jason Marcinkoski

Jason Marcinkoski — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:57:47 +0000

Grey; Thank you for your good/ humorous work. I have been visiting the Razzball site for a couple of years, and always enjoy reading the extracurricular commentary you provide. You often make me chuckle, which I need, as I’m finding researching for this upcoming season tedious.

By: derek

derek — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:49:17 +0000

Great question Grey! Why doesn’t Jarrod ever listen to Brandi? Dude’s as hard-headed as they come. He’s probably drafting Alfonso Soriano in the sixth round and telling all the other managers “Just wait and see guys….”

By: simply fred

simply fred — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:41:38 +0000

@Mick Mac: Interesting and telling. Were we all to possess the crystal ball... Article similar to Rudy's after "Risky Pitchers" results. Think Rudy has transitioned away, given the mixed bag of results.

By: Mick Mac

Mick Mac — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:12:09 +0000

Colby Lewis stands out to me as the best pitcher on this list, even if he pitches in Texas. I also like Kennedy, and Morrow has intriguing upside if he can improve his command, but he won’t last on my team for long if it looks like he’s going to finish with a 1.38 WHIP. A lot of the guys in this tier seem to have WHIP issues that make me want to avoid them.

Regarding Latos’ (and Bumgarner’s) likelihood of an arm injury and our discussion yesterday about the credibility (or lack thereof) of the Verducci Effect, I decided to look at what happened the following season for all of the players that have made Verducci’s list over the last four seasons. The article is here, for those who are interested:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/587170-verducci-effect-fact-or-fiction-evaluating-red-flags-for-price-latos-hughes

By: steve v

steve v — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:55:41 +0000

Grey – In a 5×5 10 team roto, would you take Morrow as high as the 13 round?

By: Black Beard

Black Beard — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:26:24 +0000

@Eddy: Nice one.

By: Al Swedgin

Al Swedgin — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:04:08 +0000

@Back To Minors: I'm pretty sure that this year we move to maxi-donkey: Mike Stanton

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:01:34 +0000

@Eddy: Micro Donkey - ha! First four players are your keepers. *********THERE'S A NEW POST FOR FOLLOWUPS.******

By: Eddy

Eddy — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:00:54 +0000

@Eddy: And there should be plenty of SP. I know Halladay is being kept, as well as Liriano. But my league mates favor hitters, so I know the pitching will be plentiful.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:59:09 +0000

@Tony: Yea, we lose the round next to the player's name. And I agree on the hitters. It's that last keeper I'm undecided on. I want a SP. Grey had said keep Weaver before. And I think it makes sense for me because I can draft a Lester-type pitcher (if not Lester himself then Gallardo or Kershaw) in the 6th round or so. But Hellickson and Hudson in the 23rd round is so tempting.

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:54:18 +0000

@Eddy: i'd go miggy/cargo and wright for sure.... then i dont know. you can gamble on a guy like hudson, but whats the point? Are you losing that draft slot then is what you're saying? I guess alot of your 4th keeps decision depends on what will go back into the draft.... i mean you could keep lester in the 5th but would there be something better there?

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:49:37 +0000

@Arrec Bardwin: gotya, i'd explore and see what you can do... I play in a 20 team basketball league so i know what you mean, the waiver pool is slim.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:42:13 +0000

@Grey:

I know I asked you several months before on which 4 guys I should keep, but we’re about to submit our keepers and there’s no turning back now.

Which four? 6×6 H2H (BB and QS), 3 year inflation per year. Can be kept a maximum of three years.

Miguel Cabrera- 1st
David Wright- 2nd
Carlos Gonzalez- 13th
Matt Holliday-3rd
Jose Reyes-4th
Jennings-23rd

Jared Weaver-10th
Jon Lester-5th
Jeremy Hellickson-23rd
Daniel Hudson-23rd

By: Eddy

Eddy — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:35:14 +0000

@Back To Minors: Micro Donkey.

By: Arrec Bardwin

Arrec Bardwin — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:25:21 +0000

@Tony we keep 8 every year no restriction on how long you can keep a player. Pitching isn’t exactly scarce per se, but with 16 teams in the league and pretty deep rosters. the waivers are pretty barren even in terms of viable spot starts. hitting in general is pretty weak this year, which is why I was exploring the idea of trading Latos considering the injury risk.

By: Back To Minors

Back To Minors — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:22:13 +0000

2009 – Mini Donkey
2010 – Mini, Mini Donkey
2011 – ???

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:48:18 +0000

@Scherzersnitzle: Grandy @Carns: Here's my question to you, with at least 40 starters to choose from for your 5-7 SP spots, why do you care about Latos for where you have to draft him? It's worth the risk? Maybe he's fine, let someone else be his huckleberry.

By: Smokey

Smokey — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:25:32 +0000

“The human torch was denied a bank loan”

By: Carns

Carns — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:17:12 +0000

You guys think Latos’ size might help prevent him from being a 2010 Anderson (who was still kinda valuable if you had the patience)?

By: Scherzersnitzle

Scherzersnitzle — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:13:29 +0000

In a bubble (no $$ value or draft round considerations) which ONE of the following would you keep:

Corey Hart
Daniel Hudson
Curtis Granderson
Max Scherzer

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:57:35 +0000

@cubbies299: It's not vetoable. @Swagger Jackers: YUUUUP! @Tony: Oh, that's right. Brain fart.

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:55:06 +0000

@Grey: u stay classy san diego....

By: Swagger Jackers

Swagger Jackers — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:41:39 +0000

@Grey: Yuuuppppp! F*in Dave Hester.

By: cubbies299

cubbies299 — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:40:32 +0000

Hey, does this trade seem vetoable?

Team A: Chris Carter ($7 for 5 years), Jordan Zimmerman (5 years, $7)

Team B: Andre Ethier ($20 for 3 years)

14-team mixed. Minor league system. 6X6 w OPS/Holds
Is this trade vetoable for competitive balance reasons?

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:36:49 +0000

@Arrec Bardwin: Agree with Tony. Even about whale's vagina. And I'm not even sure what that means.

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:23:06 +0000

@Arrec Bardwin: i doubt you can pull choo or the dread pirate for latos, but if u think you can because of pitching scarcity, etc I'd go for it.... those two are both pretty young and more valuable than latos this year. Although if Latos makes it thru this year with no arm issues, in san diego, which means whales vagina BTW, then he's going to be a monster.... tought call, whats your keeps rules? can you always keep 8 no restrictions on how long?

By: Arrec Bardwin

Arrec Bardwin — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:07:59 +0000

16 team h2h points keeper league. we keep 8 w/ no restrictions. current keepers are votto/tulo/zimmerman/f-her/latos/wandwagon/cahill/feliz.

thinking about trying to trade latos for another hitter, but pitching is so scarce, it gives me pause. What kind of player would you trade him for? Choo/Dread Pirate/Posey?

By: camram003

camram003 — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:05:51 +0000

wow still no garza or matusz, i would definitely take those guys over myers or arroyo.

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:24:47 +0000

@Mike from Jersey: I'm being optimistic with guys below Myers that I like. There's more risk. @Al Swedgin: Thanks for pointing it out, but I'm not going to change it. Everyone gets an extra one. @byrone: Matusz @Dugan: Lewis is in Texas and riskier in my mind. @Wilsonian: Sure @Carns: Ha! It's funny, but I think Biggie Smalls works better. @AnotherFalstaff: Miggy @CT Old School: Yeah, it really is. I watched 4 episodes yesterday that I had on my Tivo and was really sad when I finished them. @The Vaporizers: YUUUUUUUP!