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I’ve decided to do something different for this top 60 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball.  Instead of listing the players’ names, I’m going to list their favorite cheese course:  Muenster, Cheddar, Cheddar, Cheddar, Swiss, Gruyere.  Gruyere?!  C’mon, Puig!   Maybe I should go back to listing players’ names.  Yeah, I don’t even remember who Limburger was.  Fine!  I will rank with names and numbers!  As with all of my 2017 fantasy baseball rankings, my projections are included and where I see tiers starting and stopping.  Anyway, here’s the top 60 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball:

41. Ender Inciarte – This tier started in the top 40 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball.  I called this tier, “Not Qaddafi, y’all leadoff-y.”  This tier ends here.  Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Ender) signed a five-year deal with the Braves.  Inciarte is sneaky for fantasy and real baseball value.  So sneaky his name tells you he’s In CIA, and you don’t even know he’s covert.  He waves his hand in front of his face like John Cena and says, “You can’t see me,” and you really can’t see him.  For fantasy, he’s a cheap Eaton.  I will call him Eaton at Popeye’s.  Not a whole lot of power, but should get a decent average, runs and steals.”  And that’s me quoting me!  Outfielders conitnue into the top 60 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball.  2017 Projections:  92/7/39/.297/21 in 587 ABs

42. Miguel Sano – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Contreras.  I call this tier, “Excitement, but not excitement like IDWTFLISFSITOBHWR.”  Just when you thought I’d only use the acronym IDWTFLISFSITOBHWR in two outfielder posts, I bust it out in a third!  This is what you call making your writing accessible to new readers.  Number of Google searches for IDWTFLISFSITOBHWRA goes from zero to “Ugh, I don’t even wanna try to type that into a Google search.”  IDWTFLISFSITOBHWR is explained on the top 20 outfielder post in case you skipped ahead.  As for Sano, went over him in the top 20 3rd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

43. Nomar Mazara – Already gave you my Nomar Mazara sleeper.  I wrote it while nailing a Mazara to my doorjamb.  2017 Projections:  72/26/81/.277/2 in 554 ABs

44. Yasmany Tomas – He’s like the Cuban Rodney Dangerfield.  I will call him Carlos Dangerfield.  What?  Too close to someone else’s alias?  Everyone’s like Puig this, Puig that, Puig’s fat only it’s spelled phat!  He’s the Cuban God of Baseball!  Then Yasmany hits 31 homers and .272 in his first full year of at-bats and he’s still not being ranked in front of Puig?  Damn, someone needs to give Carlos Dangerfield some respect.  Enter Grey Albright, Fantasy Master Lothario (don’t abbreviate it).  2017 Projections:  63/25/72/.274/2 in 478 ABs

45. Jose Ramirez – Went over him in the top 20 3rd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

46. Keon Broxton – Already gave you my Keon Broxton sleeper.  It was written while wearing a diaper (don’t ask).  2017 Projections:  64/18/71/.237/31 in 490 ABs

47. Randal Grichuk – Already gave you my Randal Grichuk sleeper.  I wrote it while on line for a cronut in 2008.  2017 Projections: 72/28/86/.245/8 in 514 ABs

48. Kole Calhoun – His projections kinda look like a rich man’s Puig.  I will call him Pork Belly.  My excitement for Calhoun has weaned as he continues to not peak.  Guess that means I’m a ‘Pork Belly weanie.’  Why do I still have the slightest bit of interest in the PB Weanie?  He’s only 29 and maybe he can get back to the 26+ homer guy I thought he was.  2017 Projections:  84/22/72/.260/2 in 585 ABs

49. Marcell Ozuna – OZUNA need to prove self this year.  OZUNA sense people are losing faith.  OZUNA gotta have faith.  OZUNA can’t believe George Michael die on 12/25.  OZUNA really can’t believe George Michael of Sports Machine died on 12/24.  OZUNA scared for Michael Cera who play George Michael for next year’s 12/26.  2017 Projections:  78/25/83/.256/1 in 551 ABs

50. Lorenzo Cain – This tier has a little element of Ghost of Past Excitement.  Cain was injured last year, yet more or less on pace for the same great season as two years ago, and it fills me with wonder which makes me wonderful.  My big concern with Cain…Sugar! is his age.  A middle-of-an-order guy is rested, gonna do some time.  He got three years now that he’s murdered the ball — is that a crime?  A 31-year-old man is caught stealing 24 times.  He’s out in the draft and maybe dresses for Halloween as Shaft!  And that’s the way it goes, raah!  Cain…Sugar!  Cain…Sugar!  2017 Projections: 83/14/79/.285/20 in 509 ABs

51. Joc Pederson – Already gave you my Joc Pederson sleeper post.  I wrote it while high on The Tussin.  2017 Projections:  72/31/79/.252/10 in 440 ABs

52. Willson Contreras – Already went over him in the top 20 catchers for 2017 fantasy baseball.

53. Jay Bruce – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Puig.  I call this tier, “Eat a D.”  I just took some truth serum, and I wanna give it to you straight.  I want to put on angel wings and walk down a runway during Victoria Secret’s fashion show and tell you, “This is the truth,” then I will envelope you with a light shining so bright it will blind you with beauty and love.  Instead, I’m just going to tell you the truth that there are no outfielders in this tier I’m excited about.  There will be more in the top 80, but Jay effin’ Bruce and company?  They need to eat a D.  As for Jay “I’m all 1st half pardner” Bruce, yeah, he can eat a big D.  2017 Projections:  70/27/84/.247/5 in 545 ABs

54. Carlos Gomez – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Gomez) re-signed with the Rangers, though it might be more accurate to say the Rangers were resigned to re-sign Gomez.  Or maybe re-sighed.  CarGomez did have his best month last September (6 HRs, .326), and was solid with the Rangers overall (8 HRs, 5 SBs, .284 in 33 games), so it comes down to what Gomez you believe.  The one that looked like a shell of his former self, or the one that broke out of his shell and was turtley awesome.  I’m more in the former camp.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections: 73/17/57/.238/24 in 521 ABs

55. Ian Desmond – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Desmond) signed with the Rockies (for five years, which is one of the worst real life baseball deals I’ve heard in a while, but this is about fantasy, so let’s move on.  Dot dot dot.  Okay, one last thing on real life baseball, the Rockies would be a playoff contender if every final game score was 7-6.). As for fantasy, *going through the old Rolodex in the brain looking for a Desmond highlight*  There it is!  In his rookie year, Desmond hit the longest home run at Nationals Park, and Adam Dunn was on that team. In 2015, he hit the 8th longest home run in the majors at 470 feet.  What the hell am I getting at?  Desmond doesn’t hit wall scrappers, he hits bombs, and now he’s headed to Coors.  He may average 430 feet on his 30 HRs next year.  Yes, I said it, 30 HRs.  I’m done underestimating the magic Silver Bullet that is Coors.  As of now, the Rockies say he’ll play 1st base, which makes total sense with his cannon for an arm.  Ow, eye roll headache!”  And that’s me quoting me!  One small additional note, yes, there’s a ton of Rockies hitters in the first twenty, and, if possible, I’d own all of them on the same team.  We need to embrace the Rockies hitters like we all embraced Embrace of the Vampire when Alyssa Milano decided she needed to do nudity to show she had grown out of being a child star.  UPDATE:  I hate early drafts.  There’s absolutely no skill involved in drafting on March 3rd and avoiding Ian Desmond due to a broken hand that hasn’t happened yet.  It’s like not getting on a subway car and you end up marrying a Cougar vs. Coldplay’s Chris Martin and you keep forgetting your Apple ID so you can’t download a song you really want to hear vs. getting free iPhones hand-delivered by Bono.  Admittedly, I never saw the movie, Sliding Doors, but I picture the plot being something like that.  I want to marry Chris Martin and get iBonos!  Man, this effin’ sucks.  Yes, that’s my ‘pert opinion.  It effin’ sucks.  2017 Projections:  49/17/54/.253/11 in 369 ABs

56. Yasiel Puig – Is anyone more fitting in the Eat a D tier than Puig?  If there’s a pyramid of eating a D, Kanye and Trump’s cabinet are near the top of eating a D, but they’re all looking up at Puig.  He is the King of Eating a D.  In fact (Grey’s got more!), if Rajai is the King of SAGNOF, Puig will forever be known as the King of Eating a D.  Living in LA, I feel like I know what it must’ve been like for Red Sox fans to go to the stadium and see J.D. Drew.  (Speaking of eating a D, the entire Drew family can eat a D.)  Puig is the Cuban Drew.  “He has so much ability,” everyone says.  Then three months after the season starts, everyone says, “Puig can eat a D.”  2017 Projections: 65/18/71/.277/7 in 461 ABs

57. Curtis Granderson – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 80 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “A Cinqfecta of Old.”  Cinqfecta is a trifecta with five.  But there’s obviously more than five guys in this tier if it goes into the top 80 outfielders post.  Yes, but there’s no word for a trifecta with six.  Are we sure there’s a word cinqfecta?  Leave me alone, Random Italicized Voice!  As for Granderson, there’s so much to say about him that hasn’t been said before.  For unstints, did you know his grandfather’s name was Grady?  Or that he’s old enough to be a grandfather himself?  All possibly true facts.  2017 Projections:  84/25/51/.241/5 in 525 ABs

58. Ben Zobrist – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

59. Carlos Beltran – Here’s what I said this offseason, “Signed with the Astros, after choosing between the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays.  The teams interested in a player like Beltran has become so predictable.  Surprised the Rangers weren’t also in the mix.  So, Beltran is back with the Astros, and still looks like Ricky from My So Called Life.  Maybe Beltran will get 27+ homers again and maybe he’ll open-mouth kiss George Springer.”  And that’s me copying and pasting me!  2017 Projections:  68/24/75/.276/1 in 465 ABs

60. Matt Holliday – Already went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

 
  1. Adam says:
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    Unless I get a trade done, here are my keeper options with draft pick cost. 7×7 H,QS yahoo. Who to keep?

    Machado 1
    Bumgarner 1
    Thor 2
    Degrom 2
    Cespedes 3
    Polanco 5
    Dozier 6
    Miller 7
    Pujols 8
    Allen 9
    Ozuna 12
    Verlander 12
    Smyly 12
    Brinson 23

    • Adam says:
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      @Adam:

      4 keeps

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Adam:

      Machado 1
      Cespedes 3
      Polanco 5
      Dozier 6

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Adam: Machado, Thor, Dozier, Verlander… Not great keepers

  2. TK says:
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    A truer paragraph has never been written about Puig….and the Drew family.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TK: Yes! D eaters!

  3. Brad says:
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    Schwarber has and will retain Catcher eligibility in Yahoo! Seeing as how must people aren’t nearly as obsessed with preparing for the draft, and most rankings are based on ESPN, is it possible that an early round catcher could be a bargain this year? Or is he too visible and there’s no chance people sleep on his eligibility?

    • Troy says:
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      @Brad: this is great news, I have him and Gary Sanchez for a total of $9 next year.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Brad: If you’re in a league where managers don’t realize his eligibility, you should find a new league. Or don’t, and easily dominate!

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        Hahaha I love you Cram!!!

  4. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Cracking up so hard at that Puig writeup.

    1. Surprised to see Leonys and Broxton but no Kiermaier here given the love for him in the last couple months of the season. How would you distinguish those 3? Kevin seems like a top of the order bat going at a 20/30 pace last year (derailed only by an injury which is in the past) with batting average upside in the .270 range, no?

    2. Really interested in Joc as an OBP / OPS league darling that gets underdrafted due to his average, which is irrelevant in those leagues. Around what number OF would you put him and his double digit walk rate in OBP / OPS leagues?

    Thanks!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: KK is not a 20/30 guy, regardless of the “pace” he was on 100 games in. I’d give him 12/30 tops with a mediocre average and shitty counting stats. I do like his upside and have championed him since he came on the scene but he’s got to prove it before ranking him next to Leonys and Broxton. Makes a good sleeper to me though!

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Cram It: Makes sense – in that case, I’ll happily grab him in the reserve rounds and roll out Brox or Leonys as my OF5.

  5. Scott steelers says:
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    Currently keeping Springer, polanco, Villar, Turner, scherzer. With your first pick I’ll have choice of stanton, pollock madbum cano abreu. Thinking madbum what would you do?

  6. Bodacious Taters says:
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    January Grey set the bar high for February Grey – thanks.

    How does this affect your Leonys ranking if he is not batting 1 or 2 ? –> “Manager Scott Servais on Thursday said Jarrod Dyson will get a shot as the team’s leadoff hitter during Cactus League play. Another recently acquired player, shortstop Jean Segura, would bat second in that scenario, per Seattle Times reporter Ryan Divish”….

  7. Richard Davis says:
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    Im high on Leonys Martin this year too. I’m a little concerned with the trade for Dyson. What are your thoughts on that, and do you see Martin losing playing time and/or now hitting in the bottom of the lineup because of Dyson? Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Richard Davis: Dyson is garage that can steal 40 bases — SAGNOF — No way Dyson stays at leadoff

  8. Silver nonedim says:
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    Help with keepers please:
    5×5 10 team keep forever yahoo. Keep five of these guys (4 easy, 1 tricky)
    Betts, Harper, Kershaw, Rizzo and
    1 of Desmond/Myers/Kinsler/Seager/Carrasco/Bradley

    Thanks and shanks.

    PS – how did I get four amazing keepers? Razzball techniques…

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Silver nonedim:
      Desmond would be my 5th

    • Curious George Springer says:
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      @Silver nonedim: can you make a trade? Seems like you could package a couple guys for another top guy.

  9. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    I’ve only just started scanning these Yahoo ranks, but not as bad as usual it seems, aside from ranking SPs very high:

    1. Weird Eligibility: Bryant, Frazier, V-Mart at 1B. Schwarber at C (more sensical).

    2. Rankings:

    Correa (21)
    Pollock (33), ahead of Story (36)
    Odor (42)
    Desmond (44)
    Rajai (267)

    I really like how the first 4-5 rounds should go. Seems like we could all easily draft a top 1B in round 1 (esp with Bryant eligible there), then Correa in 2, Story in 3, Odor and Desmond in 4/5 before turning to Carrasco, Stras, Archer, Degrom types in 6.

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Cram It: Why not? Obviously depends on your leaguemates, of course. Fortunately, the Yahoo league I’m in is a work league where most people draft by the default rankings and spend those 2nd and 3rd rounds taking Ace (TM)s.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Ok, well if you’re talking work leagues with Suzy Secretary, then sure, you shouldn’t have a problem.

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Cram It: Yeah – these guys mostly pick the good real life baseball players and/or the guys on their team when faced with a close call.

            My other two leagues on the other hand, no shot at grabbing all of those guys unfortunately.

            • Cram It says:
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              @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: That’s what I was saying..That “we could all easily draft” scenario mostly applies to you in your work league.

              • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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                @Cram It: True, lazy writing on my part. Though I do think that all of us in Razzballland, in non-RCL leagues, could get the top 20 trio of Story, Odor, Desmond without reaching.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            @Cram It: Suzy Secretary is a beast with waivers

            • Cram It says:
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              @Grey: Suzy Secretary makes the best pot of coffee this side of the Mississippi.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                And picks up closers faster than anyone!

                • Cram It says:
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                  @Grey: She has insider access to all the best spreadsheets.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    She calls her fist ‘the hole puncher’

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Grey: Her team name is Trout Crotch Odor.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Catch My Trout Odor

            • Sweatpants Nation says:
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              @Grey: She is Queen of the D Eaters!

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                She makes them work for her….Literally, they’re in the temp pool

                • M says:
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                  @Grey: Agree with above, Yahoo rankings of course a bit wacky but not as atrocious as in years past.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Haven’t looked in depth

          • Sinkhole Demayo says:
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            @Cram It: and johnny lunchpail, bobby 6 pack.

  10. K3189 says:
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    14 team H2H standard ESPN points dynasty – Giolito/De Leon/Franco vs Hendricks/M. Carpenter?

    Always love the write ups.

    • Cram It says:
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      @K3189: Giolito side, all day.

      • K3189 says:
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        @Cram It: What makes you say that?

        • Cram It says:
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          @K3189: Because it’s a keeper league. You’re getting 3 younger guys that should be very good players. Carpenter’s on the wrong side of 30.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @K3189: Agree with Cram

  11. ichirosan says:
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    Hi Grey,

    (this would be much easier if you had already released your Top 100, lol),

    16-man H2H dynasty league, keep 22 out of 28 players. Team has been low on power forever.

    I give: Adam Eaton, James Paxton, Rhys Hoskins.
    I get: Chris Davis, John Lackey, Matt Manning.

    Yay or nay?

  12. Juan says:
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    12 team H2H Keeper. We keep 10.

    Better keeper to have Franco or Villar?
    In need of a SS of trea is not eligible nor bregman. Or should i just wait and draft a SS and wait for Trea to become eligible (on yahoo)?
    As of not the team looks like this:

    edwin
    d.gordon
    Trea
    Bregman
    Franco
    Cespedes
    Mazara
    Moncada
    Harvey
    Cueto

    my other options are:
    Devon Travis
    Kepler
    Glasnow
    Velazquez

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Juan: Villar

  13. The Great Knoche says:
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    Was really hoping to see Renfroe in the 60. What happened to Grey Smitten Kitten? Rather take a flyer on him hitting behind Myers than Eat a D Puig. Think he’ll at least be Sanoish.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Great Knoche: Love me some Renfroe, but more risk than Puig… Though, honestly, the difference between the 55th ranked OF and the 75th ranked OF is a matter of opinion and how your team looks… The difference between the 8th ranked outfielder and the 20th is larger than the 55th and the 90th… Wow, I had a lot to say on that

  14. Burningbridges247 says:
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    I’m new to the a keeper league this year, and we get to keep eight players. At last year’s auction, players in the top 10 at their position went $5-$10 higher than I expected. I am probably keeping Springer at $35, and this being an OPS league helps his value. I don’t necessarily think this is a “great” price for him. With the thinning pool of available players from the keepers and my league tendencies to “overpay” for great players,however, I’m expecting his price to possibly to balloon to around $40 because I had several trade offers from different teams last year for him, and many of the other upper-tier OFs are already being held. Thoughts?

      • Burningbridges247 says:
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        @Cram It: Thanks, Cram. Pretty sure that was the right move. Just needed some confirmation in that.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Burningbridges247: Sure thing. And you’re right, the top guys almost always cost more than whatever reference you have as their average cost.

  15. Roger Podacter says:
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    WHY DO YOU HATE STARLING MARTE NOW… YOU’RE TEARING THIS FAMILY APART

    *runs away hysterically*

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

      • Sweatpants Nation says:
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        @Grey: Flashbacks suck.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You talking about This is Us?

          • Sweatpants Nation says:
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            @Grey: HAHA. No but I could all day. Great show.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha

  16. Mike says:
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    You obviously think Joc stays in a platoon. Seems like continued improvement could change that and make him way more valuable. Do you think he stays platoon because that’s what Roberts does or because his skills don’t improve enough to warrant it?

    • Cram It says:
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      @Mike: Platoon because he can’t hit lefties, if you read the sleeper post link in Joc’s blurb.

      • Mike says:
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        @Cram It: I did read that already. I guess I don’t understand how not hitting lefties at age 24 automatically becomes “can’t hit lefties at all”. Not that he is Anthony Rizzo, but this is a typical skill trajectory for LH top prospects.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          He could, but he hasn’t yet…

        • Cram It says:
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          @Mike: Well until he does that…he’s going to lose AB’s. I’d play the trend over unfounded speculation.

          • The Grand Poppy says:
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            @Cram It: I don’t understand what you are saying at all. How is projecting modest improvement against LH pitching for a top prospect in his 3rd season “unfounded speculation”? I’m not saying Joc’s a top 20 OF, but he sure as heck is in the top 50!

            • M says:
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              @The Grand Poppy: lots of OF’ers fighting for playing time with the Dodgers

            • Cram It says:
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              @The Grand Poppy: I was talking about his playing time PLUS his improvement vs LH. His major league line vs LH is .178/.275 with a 40% K rate. What’s a modest improvement? 10 points? 20 points? So he’s going to get 100+ more AB’s still hitting under .200 against lefties? I don’t see it.

              I’m also not saying he’s undraftable! If I can platoon him in against righties when he plays, I would love to have him!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: Agree with Cram

  17. Blackjack says:
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    “But there’s obviously more than five guys in this tier if it goes into the top 80 outfielders post. Yes, but there’s no word for a trifecta with six.”

    Sexfecta? Can you write that on this blog? Well, I just did. Sorry.

  18. Burningbridges247 says:
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    Ken Rosenthal has Votto as his #1 first baseman. I hope someone in my league holds this list near and dear to their heart. (Slowly walks over and gives Razzball a big hug and a cookie)

    https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/825015329017335808

    • Blackjack says:
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      @Burningbridges247:

      I’ll give Ken this, that certainly is a list of 10 first basemen.

      I believe these lists are more overall baseball, not specifically fantasy focused… But I’m not sure if that makes Ken’s less or more insane.

        • Burningbridges247 says:
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          @Grey: Boom -shaka-laka!!!!! Get out in front of that nonsense, Captain!

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ken Rosenthal, this is Razzball actual. You are a tool.

        • Sweatpants Nation says:
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          @Grey: Ha true

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Crazy town

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @Grey: yep, 2nd best ital 1B guy. haha.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Yup!

      • Sweatpants Nation says:
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        @Blackjack: I think Ken tied the bowtie a little too tight before makng that list. Was listening to MLB XM this morning and they were listing 1B by division- NL West: Goldy, AGon, Des, Belt, Myers. Crazy

        • Blackjack says:
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          @Sweatpants Nation: Ha! Autoeranking asphyxiation?
          Re: XM -Maybe the names got scrambled in the satellite relay… ¯\_(?)_/¯

      • Burningbridges247 says:
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        @Blackjack: I agree, Blackjack, but even then I’m not putting Votto at the top. That list is insane. I seriously did a double take and checked my calendar to make sure it wasn’t April 1st before I posted that here.

        • Blackjack says:
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          @Burningbridges247: Exactly… I thought by “right now” MLB might’ve meant 2011. Which would’ve been super exciting for Will Myers… Until you realize he wouldn’t have been able to legally have a drink to celebrate. Unless he brought his current ID with him, I’m not up on the rules of Twitter time travel.

          • Blackjack says:
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            @Blackjack: Wil* C’mon phone, not everything I type is a mistake.

  19. Matty says:
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    My takeaway from today is:
    Melvin Upton will play like a Melvin again this year after being a Bossman last year.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Don’t disagree, not even sure he plays, prolly weak side platoon

  20. ElBoss says:
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    I love how half your post is like, I already gave you this shit so click here!! Way to go man, you get better every year!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha! Well, I did!

  21. goodfold2 says:
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    in that 30 teamer where we start about 2 months earlier than we have any actually good reason to week 1 FA bids are due in about 8 hours. with this is a reference (these guys were bid on to these amounts back just after christmas, and most bids were matched). 110 million per year budgets. OPS added 6X6
    list of winning bids (mostly matched):
    -stanton 23.101 mil per (4 years), this was my bid
    -posey 18 mil 3 years
    -freeman 18.56 mil per for 6 years
    -votto 16.5 for 2 years
    -cano 16 for 3 years
    -braun and cargo 1, 15.5 mil for 2 years (each)
    -a.jones 13 for 3 years
    -cespedes 16.5 for 3
    -son of donald 22.5 for 3
    -E5 18 for 2
    – villar 11 for 3
    -upton/bautista/trumbo/tulo for somewhere in the 12-13 window and 2-3 years each

    this week these are biddable, desmond/c.davis/mostsuckass/leonys/kendrys/healy/rajai
    , clearly desmond is the top. and there’s worse guys than these all over too.
    1. does this ranking look about right?
    2. what’s max down to min that you’d bid on these guys if your roster entirely at this point was
    C d’arnaud
    CI (2) beltre
    MI (2) segura
    OF (3) altherr/e.rosario
    util (1) b.drury (who could go in OF/MI/CI)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Looks good 2. Desmond — $18, Davis — $7… Then $1-3

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: minimum is .400 million (anybody on rookie contracts are that, so all of my d’arnaud/drury/altherr/rosario (and on pitching side davies/m.ynoa/rey lopez/urena)). minimum contract such that we can’t just cut the player with no penalty is in fact 1 mil, anything over 1 mil you have to eat half of contract (so 10 mil 3 year deal if you cut in year one is 5 per year or you could eat more in some years than others).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah… Desmond for $10 for two, Davis $7 for 1, then a bunch of minimums for 1 year

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @goodfold2: agree that all of above are best off getting 2 year bids or more in certain instances? probably only 1 on older guys like rajai. league has a silly max 12 mil for 1 year deals (but i wasn’t bidding more than 12 on rajai anyway)

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Yeah, I guess go to 2 year bids if you have due to league rule

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @Grey: but not longer on any of these is the idea (i tend to think exactly the same on this, esp with pitchers, esp even more with RP). so many bad things can happen to somebody and you are stuck with either having dead money on roster or half the dead money with somebody not even on roster.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Yeah exactly don’t get tied up with anyone that long

                • goodfold2 says:
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                  @Grey: went back and saw you had desmond at both 18 and 10 for 2. 10 for sure won’t win him, but just seeing if you think his value is that cheap,

                  – my earlier shown guys with their bids for reference were all their average price shown (so my bid on stanton of 23.101 was PER year for 3 or 4 years)

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    What do you think would win him? $22?

                    • goodfold2 says:
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                      @Grey: guessing the 16-22 range. 18 was actually around what i’m guessing too. the amount of years only comes into it as a tiebreaker, so if 2 people both bid 19 per year, the guy with more years bid wins.

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, $18 but for one year, I’d be worried about getting too committed to Desmond… That’s why I lowered for two years, you don’t wanna be stuck with him

  22. Danny Boy says:
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    Awesome stuff as always! Who would you take as Utility in a 5 cat league that uses OPS? Pujols, Turner, Bruce, Piscotty, or VMart? Thanks!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Turner

      • Danny Boy says:
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        @Grey: Thanks!!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  23. Test Kitchen says:
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    Grey,

    My keepers are:

    Odor
    Manny
    Donaldson
    Correa
    Springer
    Cesp
    Sale
    Synder

    OBP/SLG format

    Would you swap Cesp for Wil Myers if it’s likely there is no one worth drafting at 1B?

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I would

      • Test Kitchen says:
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        @Grey: Much appreciated

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  24. Spot says:
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    Love your rankings and colums. Do you think Andrew Benintendi (No. 1 on Keith Law’s list) could outproduce someone like Daniel Murphy in 2017?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I do think he can

  25. ChiCitySox23 says:
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    Can keep players for 5 years, but they are only eligible to be kept if drafted after the 6th round, so locking up studs early is only way to keep them before they jump into the top rounds. Will already keep Schwarber, and most likely K. Davis, with Benintendi on my minor league roster.

    Would you rather have Conforto or Baez?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Baez

  26. ERad says:
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    Last keeper out of 4 – already have Harper, Altuve, and Rizzo.

    OZUNA in the 19th round or Betances in the 17th round – it’s 6×6 H2H with K/9 and OPS – so Betances definitely carries some value.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Betances

      • ERad says:
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        @Grey: OZUNA dumped again

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

  27. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Great post!

    a. When did this go to post? Was desperately seeking it, then I only saw Lance’s first post from yesterday, for which I congratulated him and then hoped he continued.

    b. Was literally swamped today with work, much to my chagrin.

    c. Did manage to sign up for 3 CBS free H2H leagues (yawn) as I usually do but this time I signed up only for leagues being drafted at the very end of March (March 27 for one and March 31 for the other two). I followed your advice from last year to not sign up for drafts early in the ST because Jansen always gets injured early in the ST.

    d. Can’t wait for the RCL to be available. As Jack is not available to sponsor me, I’m going to join a league with JB and draft all the good Brewers including Hernan Perez and Thornburg (is he still in MIL).

    e. Love ya and have a nice weekend.

    f. This list is gravy on my turkey white meat.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      A. Usual time B. Chagrin is a confusing sounding word C. I didn’t sign up for any CBS leagues D. Nice! That’ll teach him! E. you too! F. Haha

  28. ashtray says:
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    I’m in a keep-6 forever league and would like your input on who to hold on to.

    14 team H2H
    R, HR, RBI, OBP, SLG, NSB
    QS, SV, HLD, ERA, WHIP, K/9

    Bryce Harper
    Adrian Beltre
    Alex Bregman
    David Dahl
    Andrew Benintendi
    Willson Contreras
    Josh Bell
    Eric Hosmer
    Jake Lamb
    Nomar Mazara
    Yoan Moncada
    Joc Pederson
    Yasuil Puig

    Jose De Leon
    Alex Reyes
    Matt Harvey
    Garrett Richards
    Carlos Rodon
    Wade Davis

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Harper, Dahl, Bregman, Maz, Benin, wild card…

      • ashtray says:
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        @Grey: I know you haven’t posted your pitchers yet but which one of those 6 would you keep?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      None? Rodon

    • Curious George Springer says:
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      @ashtray: I’d keep Lamb in addition to thebguys Grey picked.

  29. jack florida says:
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    16 team keeper

    tim anderson or arcia

    ozuna or grichuk

    thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Anderson…. Grichuk

  30. Todd says:
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    Definite keepers (12 team points league, 6 keepers): Kershaw, Urias, Seager, Arenado

    Last two keepers come from this list: Cano, Braun, G Polanco, W Myers, Darvish

    What do you think?

    Thanks, Grey!
    Todd

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Myers, Cano — Cano or Braun it’s close

    • Curious George Springer says:
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      @Todd: I’d throw Uriad back and keep Myers, Cano and Braun.

  31. Scott says:
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    Hey Grey, do you have time for one more?
    I’m a 13 team 5×5 Royo standard $260 auction I can keel engenio Suarez at $1 at shortstop for only 2017.

    If I throw him back he can be picked only at third.

    If he worth keeping at $1?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Of course, I do…. You can just get him back, don’t keep him

  32. Mookie Wilson 1 says:
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    10 team NL only keeper league. Please rank the following 4: RMcMahon, BRogers, VRobles, and RTapia. Are any unworthy of keeping?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rogers, Tapia, Robles

  33. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Grey – in keeper leagues using OBP / OPS instead of AVG, who (if anyone) does Harper leapfrong over in the top 10? Manny? Rizzo? Arenado?

    In OBP / OPS, his “bad year” was worth .373 / .840 / 24 HR / 21 SB . . .

    Also, did you catch Correa’s #17 ranking in ESPN, behind Bum and Scherzer?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No, he doesn’t…. I didn’t see that at ESPN, but doesn’t surprise me

  34. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Grey,

    Can you give me names of pitchers that would be fair trade value to acquire for Danny Duffy

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Why do you want to get rid of Duffy?

      • Scott Kimmel says:
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        I think KC is in a rebuild

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, but Duffy’s solid

          • Scott Kimmel says:
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            i think I know the answer to it, but would you trade Maeda for Gray, or is gray that bad

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I’d want Maeda

              • Scott Kimmel says:
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                my thoughts exactly

  35. Jean Genie says:
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    Hiya Grey!

    Tell me sir, in a super deep 30-team dynasty, would you trade Gausman for Inciarte? How about Stroman for Heyward. Lots of SP, need OF.

    My instinct says no on both. What say you, wise one…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No on both

  36. Matt says:
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    12 team keeper league, with 7 keepers.

    which of these should I keep?

    Arrieta
    Kluber
    Carrasco
    Goldschmidt
    Odor
    Donaldson
    Correa
    Marte
    Harper
    Polanco

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      What do you have? The entire 1st and 2nd rounds to keep? Not Polanco, Carrasco, Arrieta

    • Sinkhole Demayo says:
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      @Matt: dude, get the F out of that trade rape league (it’s not funny very quickly to win in those, unless it’s for money, then by all means)

  37. gigorilla says:
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    Grey – some definite gems here re: cheap auction/upside/break through/rebound efforts.

    Kinda depends on the guys in the league who discount recent efforts vs history. I like proven vets off bad years vs post hype sleepers, but all need to be viewed. Desmond/Verlander vs others.

    Get lucky. Get trickey. Get funky. Get trumpy.

    Or as A. Powers said — Yaaa Baby

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, YAAAAASSS

  38. gigorilla says:
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    BTW Greyt 1 — Did I say TFGIF? If not TFGIF!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I think I did say TGIF, did you say TGIF?

      • gigorilla says:
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        with the adjective F word added TFGIF.

        Long work week from home in WI with 2 new puppies taking some attentions.
        Max and Cooper — very good and cool boys.

        • gigorilla says:
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          They both have 80’s porn star mustaches.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Awesome! What kind?

          • gigorilla says:
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            English cream goldens.

            should be about 75# or so when grown.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Oh my God, Goldens are the sweetest, nice choice!

              • gigorilla says:
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                Thanks Grey — this is our second set of golden pups we raise as long time dog people — not to be confused with M McD’s clock orange–severe shockwork.

                Soft white puppy fur. Ya Baby.

                My cougs remembers JCY Ridgetop as we grew together in Madison—-
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E2QejVuVu0
                Classic—-

                • gigorilla says:
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                  Long day.

                  Wife says – long time……..

                  Peace out.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Ha, be safe!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  My Cougs went to Madison for college for one semester before transferring… She loved the town…

  39. JoeG414 says:
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    13 team 6×6 roto get to keep one pitcher for two years after he was drafted in that round.
    Keep Arrieta as a 7th rounder for this year only or Quintana as a 11th rounder for this and maybe next?
    So the real question who has a better season Jake or Q ?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Arrieta

  40. Big Odio says:
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    I’m seeing a pre-screeping of a movie tomorrow for a kids birthday party. We have to sign forms saying we wont talk about the movie. So they are expecting a bunch of 9- 11 year olds to stay quiet…Yeah right

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, if you’re seeing a Goonies remake I’m hella jealous

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: it’s a….wait wait wait, am I even allowed to mention the movie? I don’t know how this work’s and a goonies remake would be horrible. Why don’t they remake bad movies that could of been good like dreamscape

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I don’t know, isn’t that a Seinfeld routine? Remaking bad movies

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Grey: it’s the matt Damon great wall movie. That’s a compliment on my seinfeld bit

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              How’s dem apples?

    • I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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      @Big Odio: holy crap, do you, the parents get sued if your kid mentions the movie, cause kids WILL do that (like you intimate). shit adults do too

  41. Readsy says:
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    Need to keep 3. I think its an easy choice, but its tough to give up on harpers talent. I destroyed this league last year with young guys.
    Betts
    Bryant
    Machado
    Harper
    Corey Seager
    Trea Turner

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Betts
      Bryant
      Harper

      Pretty insane keepers you have

      • Readsy says:
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        @Grey: the guys are moderate baseball fans. So they scoop the big name veteran guys. I grab the young studs. Im shocked you chose harper over machado. Whats up with that? Machado does have ss eligibility.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Who do you want to get rid of instead of Machado? You have to keep Harper

          • Readsy says:
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            @Grey: i was definitely thinking machado over harper. I love harpers ceiling, but was thinking of machados ballpark and position eligibility. Im in great shape either way. I appreciate your input mr. Grey.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem

  42. Big Odio says:
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    I would of gone with Yasmanodney? Yasrodney?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yasyoudamanny

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: Yasyoudamanny Ramirez!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, I like it!

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Grey: if you say it like a koh reee AN it totally works

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha

  43. ThE sHiT says:
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    Looking to join a keeper league. Anybody have openings?

    Been trying for a few years to get a keeper league together amongst leaguemates but not enough interest.

    • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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      @ThE sHiT: check out any of these message fantasy baseball message boards
      fantrax,
      dobber hockey (go to forum they have baseball, but for some reason if you type “baseball dobber” you can’t get in that way)
      rotoworld
      rotowire
      real GM’s
      rotojunkies

      or actually the forums at THIS very site, albeit they are pretty vacant a lot of the time.

  44. Alcibiades Escobar says:
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    Grey!

    How should one value Billy Hamilton in a 30-team roto? I am overthinking it by thinking the format gives him much greater value than a standard 12-team roto?

    • Alcibiades Escobar says:
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      It’s dynasty, fwiw…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He does have a ton of value, he can win one category by himself in a deep league

  45. The JoGarza says:
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    Hola Grey.

    Currently slow drafting in a 12-team NFBC. Already have Verlander and am aiming for another SP next.

    How would you rank J.Quintana, D.Duffy, Tanaka, Greinke?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Duffy

  46. Richard says:
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    I am in a national league only, 10 team root based 5 x 5 league. $260 for the typical roster. Can keep only 10, obviously deep League with high inflation.
    First part of the conundrum: does Dexter Fowler at $15 represent a greater value than Domingo Santana at five dollars or vice versa
    Second conundrum: with the addition to the pitching staff’s of Colorado and Philadelphia would keeping either Adam Ottavino or Hector Neris, $1 salaries, make any sense
    Third part of the conundrum: If you only had one spot for one of the four players named Above. Which one would you keep.

    Thank you for your help

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… Domingo’s better at $5…. Ottavino and Neris at $1 are solid… Domingo…

  47. Richard says:
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    Roto auto corrected to Root
    Although the idea of a root based league is intriguing

  48. Bill Lumbergh says:
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    @Grey et al: Pineda, Ray, or Velasquez? Is it close? Thx!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, it’s close, I think Pineda

  49. Tyler says:
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    I’m in a 12 team, 18 player keeper league. Offensive keepers:
    C) lucroy
    1b) belt
    2b) Dee
    3b) Bryant
    Ss) b Crawford
    Of) trout
    Of) mookie
    Of) springer
    Utl) cargo
    Utl) j upton
    UTL) eaton
    Bn) Devon Travis
    Bn) Jose Reyes

    Offensive Categories: R, H, HR, RBI, SB, K, BB, AVG, OPS

    I checked out your OF rankings and am just curious as to whether you think dealing Adam Eaton or Justin Upton for Brantley would be worth it on my end. Kinda skeptical as to how I think Brantley will come back, but as you mentioned j up and eaton have awful down streaks. Let me know what you think, thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Huh, Brantley is ranked way after those guys

  50. The JoGarza says:
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    Hey Grey,

    It seems like Brad Miller may play 2B this season. If so, where does he slot in your rankings?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Schoop tier

      • The JoGarza says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  51. Mr Baseball says:
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    Just checking at moment speak to you tommorrow grey with a few question – not sure if you are still around tonight

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