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Yesterday was the top 40 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball.  In that post, I dazzled your retinas and made your brain say, “This guy is some kind of beautiful.  Damn, I wish I were gay like that guy I used to share a bed with in college.  Platonically.”  Within these twenty outfielders, there’s some guys I’m excited about and some guys I don’t like at all.  It’s important to read the whole post, even if you’re not reading this sentence.  I think that’s irony, but I’m not sure; you need to ask a British person to be sure.  All the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings are there.  As always, where my tiers start and stop and my projections are included.  Anyway, here’s the top 60 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball:

41. Dexter Fowler – This tier started in the top 40 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball.  This tier ends at Venable.  I called this tier, “Brace yourself for disappointment.”  When he ended up on the Astros, here’s what I wrote, “When hitters are naughty and don’t steal 40-effin’ bases when they’re capable, Santa sends them to the Astros.”  That’s Scott Boras explaining Fowler’s trade to the Astros for Jordan Lyles and Brandon Barnes (more on them in a second; I’m kidding, I’m not going to talk about them ever again.)  We all know that if you play The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas’s DVD commentary backwards, it says, “Any player traded to the Astros will immediately lose fantasy value.”  Without the community outreach program in Colorado, Coors Aids Hitters, I don’t think Fowler is going to top his 12 homers from last year, especially after he hit all of four after May 1st.  He could steal 45 bases.  The pregunta is will he?  I doubt it, but it won’t hurt being on a team that has nothing to lose (which is an optimist’s “nothing to play for”).”  And that’s me copying and pasting me!  2014 Projections:  74/10/42/.267/22

42. Austin Jackson – His 2013 was:  99/12/49/.272/8, i.e., nice/burp/belch/bleh/fart.  He was a reverse butter face.  Now he’s not even batting leadoff, so his reverse butter face is breaking out in a rash.   I contemplated moving him much further down in the rankings, but the talent is here for 10+ homers, 25+ steals.  He’s yet to approach those numbers and he’s now 27 years old so time’s running out.  2014 Projections:  76/15/72/.268/14

43. Torii Hunter – This is around the point in the rankings when guys who get 90 runs and/or RBIs with a solid average could sneak in without doing anything exceptional.  Torii Hunter:  Everything Okay, Nothing Exceptional.  Exciting, huh?  Almost like sharing a sponge bath with an elderly person.  As for Hunter’s projections, there’s a chance that Hunter moves down in the order, so his runs and RBIs would flip like Rey Mysterio.  2014 Projections: 77/17/90/.288/5

44. Nelson Cruz – If no one signs Nelson Cruz, I bet the baseball players union files a grievance, which will come a few weeks after it was announced they wanted to kick A-Rod out of the union.  Hypocrisy is one part millionaire and two parts ‘fighting the good fight.’  Reminds me of Rebecca Rimel from the movie The Art of the Steal, which I recommend if you haven’t seen it on Netflix streaming.  Such BS it makes me mad and ill and that’s not entirely because I just ate at El Pollo Loco.  I think Cruz will find a one-year deal somewhere before the season starts.  I also hope it’s a deal with a team that doesn’t have an outfielder above where I’m ranking him.  His projections are for a neutral stadium/lineup.  If he lands in Coors (unlikely) or as a 4th outfielder, I’ll adjust.  2014 Projections: 60/25/74/.259/6

45. Will Venable – The two hole for the Padres is like a two hole for anyone right after leaving El Torito.  Last year, Venable hit leadoff or out of the two hole 65% in 151 games and had 64 runs.  Dubya tee eff, Padres, get your shizz together; I am laughing at you.  Venable can get 90 runs…if he’s traded to the Yankees and bats 8th for 80 games.  Then throw in his HR/FB of 19.8%, when his career norm was 12.6%, and Petco.  Amounts to a pretty harsh buzz.  I nearly dropped him lower, but a guy that can hit 15 homers and steal 20+ bases deserves a little action in the rankings, just not too much.  2014 Projections:  61/15/49/.255/22

46. Avisail Garcia – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Cain.  I call this tier, “I’m uncomfortably excited about these guys.”  Already went over my Avisail Garcia fantasy.  I wrote it while wondering why everything isn’t seedless.  Do we really need seeded watermelons?  2014 Projections:  75/18/79/.287/14

47. Leonys Martin – Martin can’t hit lefties and his lineup position isn’t set in stone.  I’m going a bit on my gut here, but Ron Washington loves speed, um, stealing bases.  Rangers stole a ton of bases last year.  I get the sense that Washington also really likes Martin.  I could see Martin hitting second vs. righties and staying in the lineup vs. lefties, though probably batting ninth.  Depends if Washington’s crazy enough to put two lefties at the top of his lineup vs. righties.  Best case scenario, he learns how to hit lefties (he is only 25) and becomes a breakout guy.  Worst case scenario, he washes your favorite pair of sweatpants and shrinks them three sizes.  Most realistic scenario… 2014 Projections:  68/10/55/.265/29

48. Michael Brantley – As soon as I finish the rankings, I’m gonna drop on you a Michael Brantley sleeper.  I’m going to drink three cans of Fanta and write that sucker like you’ve never seen anyone write before, or pay someone $1.50 on Craigslist to write it.  Haven’t decided yet.  I love Brantley due to his speed in the minors that has to be in his gams somewhere and his ability to hit for some pop.  2014 Projections:  69/12/77/.280/20

49. Brett Gardner – Shoot me for getting excited about Gardner every year.  My enthusiasm is very simple:  a guy that can hit ten homers and steal 50 bases is interesting to me.  This is probably the last season for Gardner and me.  He’s thirty years old and the Yankees hate him.  He should’ve been the leadoff hitter for the last three years, but they went with everyone but him, which is better than Everything But The Girl, but barely.  Gardner should play every day, but there’s Ichiro (yes, that sounded like I just woke from a four-year coma).  2014 Projections:  64/7/54/.279/22

50. Carl Crawford – Really nothing to go on here, except I have a gut feeling he could have a Zombino-type year before fading into the lore of fantasy and onto the pages of fantasy encyclopedias that are bound by extra long strands of Big League Chew.  Puig, Hanley, A-Gon, Kemp are behind him.  Pitchers have to throw him fastballs.  He needs to sit on them.  Then he needs to run while the pitchers are preoccupied with the hitters following him.  At least that’s my theory.  2014 Projections:  82/10/51/.270/22

51. B.J. Upton – He’s only one year removed from a solid fantasy year, but boy was last year an egregious display of all that is unholy.  His year made fantasy owners heads spin and puke pea soup while they waited for someone to exorcise Upton from their team.  Upton’s 2013 made Ron Shandler roll over in his hyperbaric chamber (c’mon, how else does he stay so young?).  Upton was so bad…How bad was he?!…He was so bad his fantasy owners refused oral sex just so they didn’t have to think about him.  Could he rebound at 30 years old?  Sure, but I wouldn’t expect a .275, 20/30 season.  2014 Projections:  47/15/61/.229/19

52. Kole Calhoun – I already gave you my Kole Calhoun fantasy.  I wrote it while in an interstate restroom.  2014 Projections:  68/14/62/.289/10

53. Khristopher Davis – Here’s what I said at the end of last year, “You don’t have to only be excited about owning him for the possibility of verbally swindling another owner.  “No, you verbally agreed to trade me Kershaw for Khris Davis.  I don’t care if you thought it was that other guy.”  Same name chicanery is as old as the Bible.  In 25 AD, a guy by the name of Jesus Krist showed up drunk to his job, soaking wet, and got a bye when he said he was walking on water.  Many years later, the Roman empire invaded Britain because of a prank call by Klaudius Seesir.  For three years, Tori Spelling thought she married the guy from The Practice, only recently finding out it wasn’t Dylan McDermott but Dean McDermott, so you see this is nothing new.  Neither is Khris Davis’s power.”  And that’s me quoting me!  I’m not too concerned that he’s currently set to bat eighth, which is death in the NL.  If he hits and Aramis gets hurt as he’s wont to do, Davis will move up to fifth in the order.  It actually just makes more sense for ‘topher Davis to hit fifth.  He could hit 30 homers without killing you on average.  Coulds and woulds are different things though.  I could do a duet with Wiz Khalifa called, “Grey Da Boss” and spit such wicked rhymes that Amber Rose leaves Wiz for me and my Cougar welcomes Amber and Wiz Jr. into our home.  Will this happen?  Prolly not.  ‘Topher’s 30 homers and a solid average seem more likely, but neither are necessarily probable.  His K-rate was 22.2%, which isn’t great, but not nearly as bad as his namelganger.  Some have concerns that his swing is long and ‘topher Davis could be made to sit between the driver and passenger by major league pitching.  Realistically, I see a guy that could have a huge breakout season until about June then get exploited.  Definitely worth taking a flyer on since the amount of guys with 30-homer upside is about ten, and none this late.  As with other guys in this tier, I might still write a ‘topher Davis sleeper post too.  2014 Projections:  61/24/70/.245/7

54.Christian Yelich – I already went over my Christian Yelich fantasy.  I wrote it while waiting for Yelich to be carded for a PG-13 movie.  2014 Projections:  76/11/51/.278/22

55. Alejandro De Aza – The White Sox have something to be excited about this year.  I like me some Adam Eaton, Avisail Garcia and De Aza.  Hopefully, it’s enough for the White Sox for me to be excited and they don’t try anything stupid and take away De Aza’s playing time.  You tried Viciedo, it didn’t work out, move on.  That’s what I say and that’s me saying it!  2014 Projections:  75/10/54/.268/20

56. Adam Eaton – Here’s what I wrote when he ended up in Chicago, “Eaton gets a nice boost in value too as he becomes the White Sox’s centerfielder.  Why’d the White Sox trade for a guy that will only hopefully give them what De Aza was already doing?  I don’t have a clue.  Maybe they wanted to mix it up.  It’s like when I’m enjoying my peach-flavored Sodastream seltzer and then I decide to drip some of my peach-flavored nicotine juice that’s meant for my vaporizer into my seltzer and I feel like I’m gonna get a heart attack from the overload of wonderful.  That’s probably why.  Or they’re just stupid.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2014 Projections:  78/8/59/.268/21

57. Lorenzo Cain – What can I say about Cain that hasn’t been said before?  In college, he worked as a sign spinner for a cellphone repair shop.  That hasn’t been said before, but isn’t accurate either.  Cain…Sugar! will only be 28 years old and has 12-homer power and 20-steal speed.  It’s not the meow’s cat, but it’s nothing to sneeze at either unless you’re allergic to number four outfielders.  2014 Projections:  60/12/64/.269/19

58. Marlon Byrd – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 80 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “If drafting any of these guys gives you an erection for longer than four hours, seek medical attention.”  Signed in the offseason by the Phillies who are attempting to go younger.  I’m not being sarcastic.  Compared to the rest of their team, Byrd is an injection of youth.  Remember, this is a team who saw the value in signing Bobby Abreu this year after he retired two years ago.  As with the rest of the Phillies team, they are just praying that all the clocks in the world stop spinning and their guys continue to produce like previous years.  Or they’re starting a softball league.  2014 Projections:  59/18/73/.272/3

59. Corey Hart – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2014 fantasy baseball.

60. Martin Prado – Went over him already in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2014 fantasy baseball.

  1. Baggiejohn says:
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    I’m British … it’s not irony. Although there is some further down … ironically.

  2. Terrence Mann says:
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    Grey, it’s been a while since I’ve corrected you on something but Fowler doesn’t have 40 steal potential. The trade for Barnes and Lyles still makes me puke in my mouth. It was a pure salary dump but the Rocks should have gotten a decent replacement level player or prospect for him.

    The fact is that Fowler fit in well in Denver because he could cover a lot of ground with the huge centerfield in Coors due to his stride. He also is good at going from first to third on account of said stride. Getting a jump on a pitch and stealing second is not exactly the same thing. The later moves the Rocks made gave more credence to the salary dump (signing Morneau, Logan, and trading for Anderson). But his OBP is ideal for a leadoff hitter and if Cargo plays center this year, he’s going to get exposed. Cargo is not even that great of a leftfielder. He has a cannon arm but often looks lost. I imagine platooning Blackmon, Dickerson, and Cuddyer in right along with Cuddyer splitting time with Morneau at 1B will look ok, stat-wise…but the Rocks will miss Fowler hitting leadoff and covering center. Even on the seemingly run-happy Astros, if Fowler steals 40 bases, he’d get thrown out 30 times.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Terrence Mann: Interesting turn there. You must be a Rockies fan (or hater)

      • Terrence Mann says:
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        @Cram It: Yep. Rockies fan and hater of ownership/management.

    • JoeC says:
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      @Terrence Mann: Nice write-up.

      I’ve come to the conclusion that the Rockies are just not a very well-run franchise. Agree?

      • Terrence Mann says:
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        @JoeC: Mostly. They got a blessing that CarGo gave the team a hometown discount on a long term contract despite having Boras as his agent. I’ll give them credit for dumping Ubaldo at the perfect time (even though Pomeranz didn’t work out anywhere near I would have hoped/thought). We’ll see how the top 2 pitching prospects work out. If they don’t, I’ll boycott until the cheap ass Monforts sell the team.

    • Nathan says:
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      @Terrence Mann: I agree with you except for the fact that Fowler was a virus. A disease in the lineup and on the field. He would “mail it in” on every other play. He made great catches on balls normal people wouldn’t get to just as much as he would completely look lost and make a routine ball in the outfield drop. I will take a chance on catching a decent bullpen piece in Lyles and maybe even a spot starter. Barnes could even be productive if we are being completely optimistic. Having either Dickerson, Blackmon, CarGo, or Rutledge in the lead off spot won’t hurt the Rockies anymore than Fowler did. Since the Fowler trade directly led to the signing of Morneau and Logan. I like the trade for the Rockies.

      • Terrence Mann says:
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        @Nathan: No offense but you need to go read Moneyball and spend a few hours browsing fangraphs.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Terrence Mann: I’d say he has 40-steal speed… His ability to read pitchers, get jumps, pick his spots, etc, may be in need of major help…

      • Terrence Mann says:
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        @Grey: I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with ya there….it wouldn’t surprise me if he hits 25 hrs one of these years, though. He looks like a beanpole in uniform but spent a lot of time working out with Tulo when he was here. So, in the end, I really wouldn’t shift his value in your rankings much….a little more power, a little less speed.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Be surprised if he hits more than 15 out of Coors

  3. John says:
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    So could A Jax steals go up now that he doesnt have to stay stationary for miggy and prince?

    • Mike

      Mike says:
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      @John: FWIW, Tigers were DFL in steals in 2011, 2013…2nd to last in 2012, they just don’t run very much

      • centerfield ballhawk says:
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        @Mike: New manager, New opportunities?

        • Mike

          Mike says:
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          @J: sweet…thanks for sharing that J! I hadn’t seen anything on that yet

        • Mike

          Mike says:
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          @J: still don’t get the sense he’s giving the green light for steals from what he said there though

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Mike: I think AJax and Fowler’s lack of steals both have more to do with them getting caught stealing too often…Visa V…success rate is too low…

            • Mike

              Mike says:
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              @Wake Up: true, looks like AJax dropped from 80s to 60s in SB% over past 4 years, then again he did have the ab/hammy injuries. I’m interested now in this Ausmus thing to see if he runs more, and from that article link apparently he’s a hottie mchotterson with the ladies…

              • Wake Up says:
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                @Mike: obvi…

          • J says:
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            @Mike: Two things:

            1. As a Detroit local, I’ve watched/listened to Ausmus (as he’s made his media tour over the last few months) say that his baserunning philosophy is much different than Leyland’s. He plans to be much more aggressive on the basepaths. The Tigers were last in SB in 2013, and he’s vowed to change that.

            2. Much of Ausmus’ philosophy has to do with who the Tigers hired as their new 1B coach and baserunning instructor – Omar Vizquel. <- And this must not go unnoticed. I think you can count on improved success rates under his tutelage.

            • Mike

              Mike says:
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              @J: that’s some good info J….thanks again! I’m always looking for an edge to help figure out whether guys are gonna run more/less for the SAGNOF posts…sounds like they really are committed to running more now that you bring up the Vizquel points

    • PublicEnemy#1 says:
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      @J: @John: I think AJax stays in the leadoff role.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @John: More on ability than lineup placement

  4. frankgrimes says:
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    Jay Bruce?

  5. John says:
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    Yes this is OF but JW

    For 2014, how do you rank — Gausman, Noah (NYM), Y Ventura and Taillon?

    Gracias

    • centerfield ballhawk says:
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      @John: Pitcher rankings to follow Top 80 outfielders.

  6. Tigres says:
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    Thanks. Waiting impatiently for OFs 71-100… Read that Yanks may look at S Drew again, now that they are squarely over 189m w Tanaka. I like that as a NYY fan- would it have any effect on Drew’s fantasy value? Or he is what he is?

    • Andrew A says:
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      @Tigres:

      what did OFs 61-70 ever do to you?

      • Tigres says:
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        Ha! They must have ruined my ability to count…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tigres: Is what he is, which is junk

  7. JB says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Great work as usual!

    In a keeper league with OBP as a category instead of AVG. Any of these guys worth keeping and how would you rank them? Avisails OBP scares me a bit. Can keep up to 15 so these guys would be spots 14 or 15 or so.

    $5 Dominic Brown, $5 Calhoun, $5 Eaton, $5 Avisail

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JB: Thanks! Avisail, Brown

  8. Justin says:
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    Good morning sir, thank you for all the work you put in on a daily basis. Any chance you do a live podcast for any of your pert league drafts? I would buy a drink to listen. Just saying. Also do you think the Garza deal falls through? Seeing some grumbling that there may be something holding it up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Justin: That’s a good idea! I’ll talk to Nick about it… Not sure on Garza, he’s not much to consider anyway…140-ish innings, number 3 to 4 starter…

    • MattTruss223 says:
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      @Justin: That is a cool idea, I’d listen to that for sure!

    • MattTruss223 says:
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      Plus, the we’d all learn how much Grey giggles whilst drafting!

  9. Josh says:
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    Grey, no love for Oswald Arcia?

    • Josh says:
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      @Josh:

      O-OSWALDO

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Josh: There will be, eventually

  10. Mr. Metta says:
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    Your met hate shows once again.

    For what it’s worth, the Yankees have the habit of taking former mets. True, they win World Series with them… But still. I had a point there.

    • Carnac says:
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      As a lifelong Mets fan, I’m afraid any Mets hate these days is pretty well deserved. (At least for their offense.)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mr. Metta: I hate the stuff that deserves hating… I loved Harvey last year and Gee and Niese and Wheeler…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mr. Metta: I even liked Ike Davis, which bite me in the ass too

      • Fireball Feliz says:
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        @Grey:

        and I as well…

  11. Donald Trump says:
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    If you ask me, you had some real good one liners in this piece. I kinda hope you do ask me, but I guess I don’t really care either way.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Strolg: Well, there’s the reason she’s crazy about me… We’re doppelgangers!

  12. Kip says:
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    The numbers don’t lie, so I don’t know that we’ll see Brown hit 25 dongs in 2014.
    However…
    He has good control of the strike zone, hits in a small ballpark, and has shown power in the minors with loads of pedigree

    I see a possible #1 or #2 outfielder

    • JoeC says:
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      @Kip: Then why did he suck so majorly for the majority of the season? It’s perplexing, yo!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Kip: I don’t know that he showed that much power in the minors. A best extrapolation over a full season gave him around 25 HR’s at that level.

    • Shawn of the livid says:
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      @Kip: possible #1 or #2 outfielder!? HA!

      • Willy Mays Hayes says:
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        In 2009 between A and AA ball he hit a total of 14 HR in 106 games.
        -65 of those games were played in A ball in which his ISO was .214
        -37 were played in AA w/ and .177 ISO

        In 2010 between 3 levels and 128 games, he hit 22 HR.
        -at two of those stops he had ISO’s of .284 and .215

        Per Keith Law – “His swing can be a little long, but he accelerates his hands so quickly that, in the long run, I don’t expect him to be a significant swing-and-miss hitter and he has the hip rotation and leverage to hit for above-average to plus power.”

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      @Shawn of the livid: @Kip: @Kip: Even as a Domonic Brown excuser I don’t think you’ll be wanting to slot him in as your #1 or #2.

      For me in a 6×6 H2H keeper auction league, I’m going to spend big on a slugger like Stanton for my #1 OF, keep Puig for $1 as my #2, and keep Brown for $1 as my #3.

      One dollar. Third outfielder. That’s what Brown can do for me.

      What can Brown do for you?

    • Kip says:
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      I’d never draft him thinking 1 or 2 outfielder, but I say with confidence that he has the potential to be a top OF. Look, we all have our players, whether it’s Avisail G., Rizzo, or Brown. But my money is on Brown to at least be a very good #3 w/ a good chance at becoming a big bat

      2010 minor league stats
      GM 93 AB 343 HR 20 RBI 68 SB 17
      SO 74 BB 37 AVG .327 OBP .391 SLG .589

      • Cram It says:
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        @Kip: Well he’s 26 years old already. He’s got about 1 year to turn his “hip rotation” into potential realized.

      • Cram It says:
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        @Kip: Well he’s 26 years old already. He’s got about 1 year to turn his “hip rotation” into potential realized. No thanks.

        • Kip says:
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          Hmmmmm how old was Crush Davis when he broke out

          • Cram It says:
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            @Kip: Well if you want to go the “Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round” route for comparison, then yes, anything is possible.

            • Shawn of the livid says:
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              @Cram It: I’m with Cram. Good analogy

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @Shawn of the livid: for hockey guys datsyuk and zetterberg were 7th and 9th round guys.

  13. Jon says:
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    Grey, how would you rank these trades? (and are there any you wouldn’t do?)

    A) Bumgarner for Hosmer
    B) Bumgarner+Archer for Votto
    C) Bumgarner+Archer+Ryan Zimmerman for Votto+Arenado

    5×5 H2H keep forever league, no $ amounts, just max keepers set at 18. Thanks, man!

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Jon: BAC

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Agree with Wake

      • Jon says:
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        @Grey: @Wake Up Thanks!

  14. Raftman says:
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    Hey Grey… off subject here, but I’m in the middle of a new Keeper League initial draft and have a question about relievers. The league scores saves for 6 and holds for 4… is it an OK strategy to just target holds and set up men that could take over? I hate paying for saves. If so, any names that stick out to you I should be targeting (other than Brothers, Melancon)?

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Raftman: Yup, just target Holds

  15. Billy Boy says:
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    I’m forced to keep 2 offense, 2 pitchers in a 12-team points league… pitchers are crazily over-valued. Like Trout is projected 550pts by CBS and Scherzer is projected 712.

    Trout for a 17th round pick is obvious. But:
    Machado for a 19th? Or Choo for a 7th? … or maybe Cespedes for 15th or Leonys Martin for a 23rd if you like Cubans.

    And which two of the following pitchers:
    Scherzer for 1st, Teheran for 17th, Wacha for 17th, Cashner for 17th, Salazar for a 17th, or Straily for a 23rd?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Billy Boy: Machado… Teheran, Wacha

  16. Brett says:
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    In a keeper league where I can keep 3. So far keeping Harper and Scherzer for sure. For my 3rd I have Adrian Gonzalez and Hunter Pence as possibilities. You don’t talk to high of either one. Which one you like better? Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Brett: A-Gon, coin flip

  17. Tom says:
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    Grey – who’s your Paul goldschmidt, Harvey and segura this year

    • Stock says:
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      @Tom: yep..thats what Im waiting on…..bring back the WAR ROOM.

    • Shawn of the livid says:
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      @Tom:

      ” Wanna find a guy that could be Au Shizz this year? Here’s your guy. Easily has 30+ homer power and can steal ten bases. Average is the only thing holding him back. You’re not going to find Rizzo ranked as high anywhere else, but don’t let that scare you off. This is a trust exercise. Fall back into my arms; I’ll catch you.”

      And that’s me quoting Grey!! That was fun! He also wrote a solid sleeper post on him. Normally I wouldn’t agree, but it’s very hard to go against the Greyain. See that!? Pretty good. I’m in a good mood today.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Tom: Although I don’t think he’s that guy, I would guess Anthony Rizzo fits the profile and has the makeup of projecting to possibly be the Goldschmidt type.

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: Shelby Miller? Brad Miller?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Brad

    • Billy says:
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      @Tom: @Tom: it’s Rutledge or Peacock I think. You may also want to ask Bill James who his Chris Davis is.

    • Billy says:
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      @Tom: @Tom: @Tom: it’s Rutledge or Peacock I think. You may also want to ask Bill James who his Chris Davis is.

  18. JB_SIMMS says:
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    I’ve got Ruggiano on the cheap. We run a 5 outfielder system, NL Only. Worth keeping?

    • Cram It says:
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      @JB_SIMMS: Is he your 5th OF? 6th? Who else would you be adding if you didn’t keep him?

      • JB_SIMMS says:
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        @Cram It: I’m an expansion team in a NL league only. We carry 5 outfielders and my 3 are Bourjos, Ethier, Ruggiano currently with Taveras in my minors, I don’t have tons of talent on my roster, so I just kind of have what I have. I think I would rather keep Ruggiano over Byrd with the possibility the Ruggz plays well and I can deal him around All-Star Break for some prospects from a contending team or whatnot. I don’t plan on being competitive until my minors is developed more.

      • JB_SIMMS says:
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        @Cram It: We run a “salary” based system with the “league average” being $10. I’ll give you a list of my guys I have currently and just let me know who you would keep!

        P. Bourjos – $1
        A. Ethier – $1
        S. Smith – $2
        M. Byrd – $10
        J. Ruggiano – $10
        L. Duda – $14

        Going to keep 3-4 currently. Thoughts?

  19. George says:
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    nice/burp/belch/bleh/fart

    LOL – that sums up his year last year. I will be interested in seeing if AJax does some more under Ausmus as well.

  20. Shawn of the livid says:
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    Here’s one for you Grey;

    Last year I had Putz, Motte, Rodney, and some other bum as closers. So, in case you don’t remember, my entire squad of closers were either hurt, or refusing to pitch well for the whole season. Closerpacalpse for sure . I pretty much punted the saves category for 75% or more of the season. In the end, I took first in the league and 1st in the playoffs. Not too shabby.

    That was the first year I had ever punted a category. I usually try to use closers for the K-rate, low ERA, and generally to sharpen my pitching stats (obviously). But this year I’m thinking about doing the punting thing again, only I would get an added benefit of not having to draft any closers (maybe just one). Was I just lucky last year? Its a 10 team H2H.

    I’m interested to hear your opinion on this. How much do you value picking up closers? Also, the league I’m in tends to grab closers quickly and many guys try to go with the “2 solid SP’s and then spam closers” strategy.

    Thanks man, awesome rankings/explanations again btw.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Shawn of the livid: You weren’t lucky… SAGNOF! Closers come and go, don’t invest heavily in them…

  21. the tone ranger says:
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    i have been reading rankings and blurbs. thank you.
    i know that OF is pretty slim this year, fair amount of talent at top but then a pretty sizable dropoff which leads me to the question.
    would you keep justin upton at round 3 or ian desmond at 24th round.

    i know it looks simple because according to your rankings and the round value i can keep him at, desmond is a much better value, BUT all the top 20 OF WILL be kept.

    for reference, the top SS are usually kept, although in line w/ your rankings, i doubt andrus and everth etc are kept but id have to take them early in the draft to get them…

    so do i go w/ OF keeper since ill be picking exclusively from the 21-100 crowd if i dont, or do i go w/ the absolute value pick/steal.

    thanks.

      • the tone ranger says:
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        @Grey: then i will have to cobble and OF together in the 21 and after tiers…is that doable?

  22. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Pst, about that K-Davis sleeper post. I know a guy who kinda did that…he’s tall, dark and handsome…if think hairy is handsome…

    • frankgrimes says:
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      @Sky: is it same guy who told you to draft SJax?

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        It’s the same guy who told me to not draft David Wilson, Lamar Miller, and other ‘cheaper/better options than SJax’.

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Sky: I have read your comment and it is obviously that your a foggot…

      • frankgrimes says:
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        @Wake Up: Thanks for that wake Freakn Hilarious

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        I think of myself more as a Foghat, really.

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Sky: Thanks for that link…I had a good laugh!

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            @Wake Up: My ability to draw connections is on par with Robin Thicke. Everything’s a blurred line with me!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sky: I only know one hairy handsome man — George The Animal Steele… Is George The Animal Steele writing a post for our site?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Sky does resemble an very very thin George, I’ve been telling to shave his head for the last couple of months

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          You’ve been telling me to shave all over, period. But it’s more so I don’t leave DNA than anything…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No, Sky should gained 350 lbs.

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Beef Cake

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        He is, he’s doing a guest post via Rotobanter.

        • Mike

          Mike says:
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          @Sky: ha! let the floggings continue :D

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… Rotobanter is everywhere!

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            They’ll soon take over the banter world

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Banter? I hardly knew her!

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                There is no Dana, only Banter.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Wasn’t she on Diff’rent Strokes?

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Nah, she was with Ricky on My So-Called Life.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

          • Mike

            Mike says:
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            @Sky: @Grey: lol… it’s a Rotobanter world…we just live in it

  23. Czernobog says:
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    “Definitely worth taking a flyer on since the amount of guys with 30-homer upside is about ten, and none this late.” – That’s for Khris Davis, so where’s Khris Karter? He’s got 35 homer upside, and is one lucky month from being a great sell-high. 2nd half last year, Pedro Alvarez had 12 HR, 0.213, Carter had 11 HR, 0.216. I think there may have been an accident with a mirror & a cloning device, giving us a L & R handed version of exactly the same player. Difference is Alvarez had the one lucky month in June, 10 HR and 0.309, and was therefore sellable. No reason Carter can’t do that, I’d gamble on him before some of the others in that tier.

    • MattTruss223 says:
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      @Czernobog: http://razzball.com/top-20-1st-basemen-for-2014-fantasy-baseball/

      Scroll down to #33. Corey Hart is @#18 in the 1B, 15 spots ahead of Carter. Hart is #33 in OF, so I’d say Carter will be just inside the next grouping of 61-80. Probably worth the gamble over say, BJ Upton, but not the upside of most of the guys in that tier.

      • I had Chris Carter on a few teams last year. I really don’t think he ever turns the corner to fantasy baseball relevancy. His K-rate was atrocious against LHP (37.1%) and RHP (35.9%). The power is definitely there but just not sold that he can cut the K’s down to boost his AVG/OBP to .250/.350.

        • Bombo Rivera says:
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          @Rudy Gamble: Hitting .250 seems unlikely, but a .350 OBP seems within reach. In 67 games with OAK in 2012, his OBP was . . . .350. Last year, it was .320. He can take a walk, so while I wouldn’t count on .350, it seems possible.

          • In 2012, he faced mostly LHPs. He shows patience with RHP too but .230/330 seems more likely

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Czernobog: Yeah, Carter can hit 30 too…And .210… Technically, none this late is wrong, none this late that won’t also hit .210 is better…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jason: Is this spam?

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey: no.. why you think my posts are spam? gees. i’ll stick to baseball related.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Was just kidding…

          • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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            @Grey: never seen geez spelled that way, nice.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              There ya go!

  24. Wake Up says:
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    Yes watermelons need seeds.
    No Farms No Food.
    Rainbow colors/holding hands.
    Coexist. (with the quarter moon thing and the Jewishy thing, and the witches)…
    If you are reading this you are too close, but congrats on learning English, finally, if Jesus wanted you to speak that ling-lang ding-dang crap he wouldn’t have wrotten the bible in English!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: You had me until watermelons need seeds.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: was just writing down what I was seeing posted on the back of this Subaru Forester in front of me…with blue painters tape holding the passenger door on…and “actual” weeds growing from the roof…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You saw it wasn’t the tree man?

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: could tell for sure…but this I know that I saw…

            “Smile! My girlfriend never does…(She’s a lesbian)”

            • OaktownSteve says:
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              @Wake Up:

              Jesus is my co-pilot…and we’re cruising for pu$$y

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              HA!

  25. gareth says:
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    Are we going to be seeing any platoony tunes posts in regards to pairing two outfielders? It seems like once you hit 60 to 80 in this category, in daily leagues you are probably better off getting a Frankenstein hybrid of two players with large splits and play the matchups (Johnny Gomes, drew Stubbs, Seth smith ect etc) over plugging in a boring option every day.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @gareth: Sure there will be Platoony Tunes stuff in-season…

  26. Jon says:
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    Would you deal Tulo or Desmond for Miller+Heyward? 5×5 H2H keep forever league

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

  27. Jason says:
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    I’ve been offered Posey, Rosenthal, and Avisail Garcia for my Puig, Mauer, and Janssen. What is your take? Thanks, and happy Friday to you!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Puig side… You too!

  28. gareth says:
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    Austin Jackson and rick porcello ran a fantasy brothel last year in Detroit, tempting and enticing fantasy players to choose them for their pleasure. Once they got the suckers inside the brothel under the seedy fluorescent lighting, owners would see that these guys had lots of warts and were wholly unappealing. Their performance was also unsatisfactory. Regretful Internal conversations would go (“but Jackson, you looking so fast outside. And You didn’t even ATTEMPT to steal my wallet”) or (“but rick, you looked so young and promising outside and my buddy said you were outstanding last week”).

    Their parting gift of gonorrhea and a 5rd place finish in your league just rubbed salt into the wounds.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  29. Milby says:
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    League where we draft an active & reserve roster (40 total players) and THAT’s IT for the season. No waiver wire, or mid-season pickups. How big a bump do we give multi-position eligibility guys like Prado & Zobrist, who also demonstrate health? Their stats are a boring side dish…but one that pairs well with all sorts of different main courses.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They get a big boost, you need flexibility…

    • Jason says:
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      @Milby: sounds like an interesting setup. i imagine there are lots of trades?

      • Milby says:
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        @Jason:

        Yes it’s tons of fun -the league has been running for >20 years. Teams fall out of contention very quickly, especially when a key player goes down, and trades occur frequently. The goal of the league is to mirror a major league club, where you’ve got a minor league system from which to draw, but there’s no magic waiver wire pool of players. Contingency planning and risk-mitigation are absolutely critical, since your roster has a fixed quantity.

        • Jason says:
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          @Milby: sounds really cool. i think i will propose to modify ours to this for 2015. Right now we are a standard auction league (12 teams). After we fill the rosters with the standard $260 cap we could just draft the rest of the FA’s ($5 each) (snake style), so essentially have two drafts. Keep as many as you want for a $5 raise the next season that counts against your $260 cap for the initial auction draft.

          • Milby says:
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            @Jason:

            That’s amazingly similar to what we do. Standard auction, then fill the rest of the roster w/a snake. Lots of fun – highly recommended!

  30. OaktownSteve says:
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    Speaking of the Mets and outfielders, I’ve got a suspicion there’s going to be useful season out of old razz favorite Chris Young. He sulked around Oakland. Didn’t ever really seem to buy into the just play your role mentality here. Probably will be motivated to re-establish himself as an everyday guy. I could see a 20 & 15 season a possibility for him. Have to pray he hits .250. But he’s nowhere near as bad as his numbers from last year.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, could be… Might be one of those guys that’s a great waiver wire pick up…

  31. goodfold2 says:
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    asked about this earlier but that was before some new depth chart info. Draft is about to be over so it’ll be time for free agent bidding process. If my SP are
    Liriano/sale/erasmo/e.santana/estrada/kuroda/maurer (forced to majors due to innings, trying to trade him)/b.chen (currently no contract, and pretty bad anyway, and costs 4.5 million out of 100 million budget, so if he signs he’s getting traded along with maurer, or cut anyway), should I attempt to pick up any of oberholtzer/feldman/vargas/c.torres/c.lewis/gaudin/morton/redmond/fausto carmona incognito. It would be nice if I could wait on this till right before season (like in redraft leagues) but i can’t. before you said bidding on torres was best. but as of now the only guys with jobs are ober/feld/varg/morton/carmona. i’m guessing i can just throw out carmona/feld/gaudin/ but should any of these be bid on?
    1.at most rank top 3.
    i think i’m correct in throwing away chen as well, since he costs 4.5 million. my budget is around 26.5 mil (around 10 of that at least should be left around for all-star break minor league player bidding if I am out of competition of playoffs). I have room for at least 4 more players on active roster, at least 1 of which i want to be my 7th starter.
    2.Also of those 3 i’m guessing i should be bidding like 1 million for one season, not more for each (possibly less?) this is the stupid ass bidding where it’s blind, and you have to pay the max bid if you win the player.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Vargas, Morton, Torres… Don’t bid much… You can lose Chen…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: about a million each? It’s likely vargas gets bid up more, but one of morton or torres is quite likely won (esp torres, with no current job) for 1 million.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sure

  32. Jason says:
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    Hey Grey! I need to keep one of these for 2014 season only, who would you suggest?

    Wilson Ramos
    Xander Bogaerts
    Danny Salazar
    Sonny Gray

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gray

  33. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    for saves/holds/general stats this year rank loup/frasor/alfredo/parra/wil smith/swarzak/vincent/thatcher/thornton/diekman/rice/m.reynolds ARI/. rank top 4 since i’ll really only have room for 2, and some others could be grabbed before me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Frasor, Smith

  34. JOe says:
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    5X5 League (uses OBP instead of AVG and TBS instead of HRs)

    I have to keep 5 Keepers: I’m keeping Edwin, Tulo, A.Jones and Posey. Who of these 5 would you keep? Please rank: Price, Scherzer, Fernandez, Hamels or Heyward. I know you hate SPs, but isn’t taking one of these SPs worth it over Heyward? Thanks Grey – love your stuff!!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Scherzer

    • Cram It says:
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      @JOe: I would keep a few of those guys over Posey.

  35. Cram It says:
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    Red Sox signed Grady Sizemore. I for one, would love to see the guy make some sort of a comeback.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t mind either way…

  36. goodfold2 says:
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    from top 40 OF yesterday, just what venue has 4 and a half minute commercials? talking about that hotpocket ad/music video.

  37. Wes Gardner says:
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    Grey- good times seeing the 2014 ranking. Boner-riffic!

    AL only keeper league that uses OPS

    Is Zunino worth keeping over Napoli? I have Hosmer at 1b thus, Nap would DH. Like the power, but could I get similar power from Zunino out of a scarcer position. Thanks and hi to the MILF.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d keep Napoli… Thanks! She says hello back!

  38. Prez says:
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    The RCLs are going to be E$PN this year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ye$

      • Prez says:
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        @Grey: thats bull$hizz grey! Im getting my picket signs ready…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          $orry!

  39. Dan says:
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    Who has the better shot at sticking? Scott Schebler or Mac Williamson?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Neither

  40. George George George of The Jugnle says:
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    Can keep Eaton in the 18th round in a ten team league. Useful as a 4th OF type? Protection really isn’t promising and that WSox outfield sure looks crowded.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure

  41. Sange76 says:
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    12 team H2H points leave. Better late 1st /early 2nd combo? A Jones/ 1st base(maybe fielder, votto, Davis, freeman…depending on who possibly falls) or D wright/Ellsbury.

    Disclaimer: obviously would love the Jones/wright combo as my ideal draft start at my late slot. But them chances be slim…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      See my rankings

  42. Andrew A says:
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    It doesn’t seem like there’s anyone like Gomez or Marte last year that had a good shot of breaking out. This year, its seems much more like a crapshoot

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, could be…

  43. MeatyOH says:
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    10-team NL-only H2h points league…keep forever.

    I can keep just ONE of the following. Which one?

    Matt Adams – Pablo Sandoval – Aramis Ramirez – Todd Frazier

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Adams

  44. los locos says:
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    Keeper league
    10 team

    Keeping Hanley heyward Craig strausburg kershaw verlander

    So would you keep hosmer or rizzio?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hosmer

  45. John says:
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    Okay so if Jackson bats fifth, his runs go down but awful lot of guys on base for him to drive in, no? Plus a full season this year. Any chance at all he is alex gordon again?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s not a guy that would drive in players with extra base hits… He’ll get 70-ish RBIs as I have in his projections…

  46. Todd says:
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    Would you trade machado for puig? 12 team keeper league

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  47. Mr2Bits says:
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    Morning Grey : Haven’t been able to sleep because I have so many studs and so few keeper spots(8). We are a 10 team 5×5 that uses QS/OBP. The round you drafted or picked up the player is the round you can keep them at which makes this tough. Your help on selecting 8 studs to ride to another Championship is appreciated :

    Adrián Béltre 1
    Carlos Beltrán 3
    Josh Hamilton  6
    Brandon Phillips 18
    Austin Jackson  21
    José Bautista  22
    Ian Desmond  23
    Anthony Rizzo  24
    Matt Adams  FA/24
    Coco Crisp FA/24

    Pitchers
    Yu Darvish 2
    Homer Bailey 5
    Max Scherzer  8
    Hyun-jin Ryu 9
    James Shields  14
    Patrick Corbin FA/24
    Francisco Liriano FA/24
    Zach McAllister FA/24

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Beltre, Bautista, Desmond, Rizzo, Darvish, Scherzer, Adams, Phillips…Nice keepers!

      • Mr2Bits says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, definitely a blessed owner. I’m surprised Corbin and Liriano weren’t in there for you. What were your thoughts about not keeping those 2 over someone like Beltre, Rizzo or Adams?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I almost said Liriano over Adams…It’s really a toss up, only reason I didn’t is because you have two great starters already… Corbin’s not close…

          • Mr2Bits says:
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            @Grey: Thanks. I lost last years Championship by 1 K so top quality arms are a must.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Or just one crappy middle reliever who gets one K.

  48. stonepie says:
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    grey would you play miggy at 1st or 3rd this year? or just see how the draft goes and get the best value at the time?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      See how the draft goes…

  49. NWO4Life says:
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    Pick one keeper…all at league minimum for auction league

    Billy Hamilton
    Mike Minor
    Homer Bailey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hamilton

  50. Greyismyhero says:
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    Great rankings so far Grey..You the man as usual and keep toking and don’t pass!!! I need some keeper advice, Unlimited keeper league, 12 teamer….I can keep 7….Please advise…Thanks!

    J. Altuve
    R. Braun
    D. Brown
    Soo-Choo
    P. Fielder
    C. Gomez
    S. Marte
    C. Yelich

    J. Fernandez
    M. Harvey
    C. Kershaw
    C. Kimbrel
    D. Price
    S. Strasburg

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Braun, Fielder, Gomez, Marte, Jo-Fer, Kershaw, Strasburg

  51. Jason says:
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    Grey great stuff but you already know that.

    I was reviewing some rankings as it wound apply to my keeper team. How far out of the top 20 is Freddie freeman?
    Would you be surprised if FF outperformed Votto?
    I may be a bit crazy but would you entertain moving Votto for the first overall pick and a second rd pick if you could get freeman? Of course it is dependent on what Freeman’s cost is? But putting that aside for sake of argument.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Not far… Like a 3 to 5 spots… It wouldn’t be crazy for him to outperform Votto…

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey: what donyoubthink about the move?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sounds solid

  52. Mike says:
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    10 Team NL only Auction league. Would you trade my Rosenthal $13 A for any of the following, and if so, how many years would you sign the “B” players to a long-term contract? [I don't have a SS and Peralta may be the best avail. & don't have a closer and Jansen, Pap, Henderson, Reed best avail at draft]

    Yelich – $1 B ($1 for this year, $6 for 2 years or $11 for 3 years)
    Segura $5 A
    Cole $6 A
    Teheran $3 B ($3 for this year, $8 for 2 years or $13 for 3 years)

    Thanks Grey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d trade him for Segura, Teheran or Cole…

      • Mike says:
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        @Grey: Thanks Grey. I forgot to mention that it’s H2H and elite closers are highly valued because counting stats for pitchers are ERA, Saves, K’s, Wins, Losses. So, a closer who gives up no runs in a scoring period (24pts), gets 2 saves (8pts per save) and 3K’s (1pt ea) nets you 43 pts. Does that change anything? I have Rosenthal ranked behind Kimbrel, Jansen and Chapman in the NL this year. Too high? I can see doing the deal for Segura because of who will be available at the draft (i.e. Peralta, Mercer, etc.) but Cole and Teheran??

        Thanks again…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah…Gotcha… Then for Segura and not the other two…

          • Mike says:
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            @Grey: Thanks Grey.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem

  53. goodfold2 says:
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    first time i’ve seen you mention shandler, great book yet again (really every year, since he puts it out every year); i’m asses to elbows in it now.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cool

  54. goodfold2 says:
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    lineup fairly solid in 30 man dynasty except for currently having to start these 2 at MI and CI spots (we have 2 of each MI and CI, but no SS/2B/3B/1B) ciriaco (qualifies at both) and schumaker (qualifies at MI/OF). I already have 4 other OF’s (1 util spot). Only bench hitter currently is backup catcher ellis (who might very well get traded since like 3 or 4 owner’s don’t currently have even 1 starting catcher, and only 1 starter Pierzynski is free agent). with these guys being free agents
    k.johnson CI/MI/OF
    aviles CI/MI
    lucas CI/MI
    gillaspie CI (starter right now)
    mercer MI (starter)
    rollins MI (likely to get bid up too high, like over 5 mil)
    sogard MI (starter)
    r.weeks (even as backup likely to get bid up)
    punto MI (double backup, likely starts when lowrie gets hurt)

    You said earlier to target k.johnson and mercer, which I will. but
    1. how much each? i’m thinking 3 mil k.johnson (positon eligilbility and name recognition)and 1 mil mercer (budget is 26.5), both 1 year obv.
    2. if I can’t get 1 or both of those 2, who do i target over schumaker and/or ciriaco. ciriaco is better but will likley get almost no AB’s. Are Gillaspie and Sogard the next best (due to starting)? I’m guessing everyone in that level should only be bid 1 Mil 1 year on (or less?)
    thanks, this will fill lineup for season, when done. we send bids as emails, and can do tiering, so i would bid on k.johnson and mercer first, if i get both bid on nobody else. when we waiver anybody in season they cost .400 K.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. 1.5 mill for Johnson and 1 for Mercer 2. Gillaspie, Sogard, Weeks

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: thanks, now i’m reading for all of the bidding, originally it was supposed to be done in sessions (SP and OF/MI and CI/RP and C), but it looks like it’s gonna all go down at the same time this year. done and done.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @goodfold2: should read “ready”, damn brain, better get it’s shit together or i’m getting a pencil up the ear.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ha

  55. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    upon your recent recommendation of “the Art of the Steal” ,
    i discovered that our version of netflix doesn’t have it available .

    on youtube , there are whole episodes of this :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIEZCRjR_A
    which you might find enjoyable .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That stinks about Art of the Steal not available with you… Thanks for the epicondomsode!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      OMG…that was hilarious.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        You’re a friend of the condom, huh, Sky?

  56. Jon says:
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    Cespedes+Gyorko enough back for Cano?

    As a possible extension of that deal, what are your thoughts about my Cano+Bumgarner for Cespedes+Gyorko+Hosmer?

    5×5 H2H keep forever league, no $ amounts, just max keepers set at 18. Thanks, Grey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d want Cano there and in the 2nd one too…

  57. Balmy Tundrastein says:
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    i’m joining a league with 10 teams that draft like this 6X6 h2h; we snake draft (i’m 2nd overall), so i’d get 2nd,19th and 22nd spots. we get ALL the players (and prospects if/when they come up) from those 3 teams. before asking about any overall rankings by team i want to eliminate the worst 8 teams so as to not draft them. other than MIN and MIA, who else should I throw out? Maybe PHI/CUBS/SD? Need 8 worst for fantasy purposes. non-keeper league, so only for this year.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Mets, San Diego, Houston, Minny, MIA, PHI, Giants

  58. Balmy Tundrastein says:
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    i’m joining a league with 10 teams that draft like this 6X6 h2h; we snake draft (i’m 2nd overall), so i’d get 2nd,19th and 22nd spots. we get ALL the players (and prospects if/when they come up) from those 3 teams. before asking about any overall rankings by team i want to eliminate the worst 8 teams so as to not draft them. other than MIN and MIA, who else should I throw out? Maybe PHI/CUBS/SD? Need 8 worst for fantasy purposes. non-keeper league, so only for this year.

    • Balmy Tundrastein says:
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      @Balmy Tundrastein: we draft the real life teams, then after draft we can trade whoever we want.

      • Keith

        tomscuba2004 says:
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        @Balmy Tundrastein:

        I’m no expert, but you might think of targeting a pitching staff (Dodgers) or an offense (Texas, Atlanta) then trading the bits and pieces after the draft. Sounds like a cool format. Good luck.

        • Balmy Tundrastein says:
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          @tomscuba2004: dodgers might be good for both, with hanley/a-gon/kemp (if he comes back, or just trade him at the start, immediately)/puig. thanks for that idea, it is good.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Answered above

      • Balmy Tundrastein says:
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        @Grey: for just my first pick (2nd overall) i’m thinking one of LAD/TEX/STL seem to be the best of the teams. TEX probably does have best lineup, but LAD have above average lineup and much better pitching, with STL in the middle of both categories relative to the other 2. I’m pretty sure these are likely the top 3, but which is best? DET/OAK and a few others probably aren’t that far behind those, but i’ll have no chance at 19th at those.

  59. Boomer19 says:
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    The Billy Hamilton hype is swirling. What order would you rank these trades? Trade away Billy for Andrus? Freeman? Scherzer? Thanks.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Boomer19: not for andrus.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Freeman, Scherzer…

  60. Jason says:
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    Votto and Stanton or freeman and Adam jones

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Jones side

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey: does it change in a keeper? Have the Votto Stanton side.

        • Jason says:
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          Sorry for the manuscript but I’m driving myself crazy. My league is a 5 keeper 6×6 TB and QS. Added. Can trade picks. My current situation has my earliest pick in the eighth rd and not again until the 11th. keepers would be Votto Stanton kipnis machado Strasburg.
          Here are my options:
          1. Stay with current draft position and trade Votto and Stanton for jones and freeman.
          2. Move Votto for a 6th. & 7 th rd pick. The 6 th is first overall pick. The 7th would be used to then acquire freeman. Basically swapping out Votto for freeman and potentially someone like beltre

          I really like jones but feel like taking a #2 here (hehe).
          Your thoughts are appreciated.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            I’d do 1. Not 2.

            • Jason says:
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              @Grey:
              You have freeman above Stanton?

            • Jason says:
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              @Grey: let’s say hypothetically said trading partner now doesn’t want to move jones. Second deal still a solid option?

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                @Jason: No, 2nd deal isn’t a solid option

  61. Clemente says:
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    Grey, can you help me pick 6 keepers, in h2h. The rounds I can keep them in for this year in parenthesis. Thanks

    Miggy(1)
    votto (2)
    cano (3)
    cargo (4)
    justin upton (5)
    Everth(17)
    arenado (21)
    Desmond (23)
    billyhamilton(24)
    machado (25)
    bogaerts(26)
    Gyorko (27)
    Werth(27)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy, Votto, Cano, CarGo, Hamilton

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Oops, and 6th: Ian Desmond

        • Clemente says:
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          @Grey: thanks, so you’d take the better shot this year over the future benefits of retaining those other guys cheap (namely bogaerts and machado)?

          • Clemente says:
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            @Clemente: and arenado

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            @Clemente: Yup, better shot this year

  62. Chris says:
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    Hey Grey,
    Ottoneu points: $9 Shelby Miller, $9 Torii Hunter, $3 Venable sound pretty fair for $26 Adam Jones? I’d be getting Jones.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Chris: I’d want Jones

  63. goodfold2 says:
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    i’m guessing my leonys at 3.1 mil till end of 2016 for either of seager (.4 mil till end of 2016) or adams (same as seager) is utter steal? owner of both seems to really want leonys (was offering kendrick and victorino, i turned down)

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: who’s better long term, adams or seager?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Adams

  64. John says:
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    Hey Grey,

    How you rank these C in dynasty startup?

    McCann Yadi Lucroy Sal

    Thanks man

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sal, Lucroy…

  65. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    order of these in h2h 6X6 with holds still carpenter/qualls/frasor/wil smith? i know yesterday you had last 2 over a bunch of other guys.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Carpenter, Frasor…

  66. SteveNZ says:
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    So, a great night for Lorde at the Grammys but, at the risk of sounding unpatriotic, the biggest revelation of the whole thing for me was that the Paul Williams who was one of the main collaborators with Daft Punk on Random Access Memories is the same little fella that was always popping up on TV in the 70s and 80s…

    http://www.last.fm/music/Paul+Williams/+images/84215355

    • Wake Up says:
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      @SteveNZ: that Same Love performance was pretty powerful too…

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Wake Up: Missed that but sounded like that was certainly the case.

  67. mike b says:
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    For an OBP league, how significant a bump would Granderson get? I’m not targeting him, just trying to get an idea for the point at which he becomes a good value. Actually, on second thought, I don’t want to draft a Met bat who can’t stay healthy (that should cover them all).

  68. chris L says:
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    I have trouble with a draft order for fantasy baseball in a competitive 12 team standard league…Is there a particular order of player or draft rule of thumb besides NEVER drafting top-tier catchers?
    I have pick 2 this year…

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