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First, I am proud to announce that there is a new list in the left hand column of Razzball called, Top 50 Fantasy Baseball Prospects. That’s right, I labored intensely for hours on end, poured my heart out, and now it finally begins a new aspect of Razzball. Ignoring the semi-quasi emo lyrics, the main goal of the Top 50 Fantasy Baseball Prospects can be found at the link, or just read them in the next sentence. Goal: Provide an expert prospect list solely for fantasy baseball purposes. Due to fantasy baseball’s immediacy of statistical production, players are not necessarily ranked based on tools or projections far into the future, but instead, current production with true expert analysis (Baseball America, Keith Law, and John Sickels) along with the level of play in the minors (i.e. Class level). Aspects taken into consideration are fantasy baseball’s positional scarcity, Razzball philosophies, scouting reports and personal biases. To be part of the list, a player must be playing in the minors, and have no major league experience (excluding Jeremy Hellickson, Peter Bourjos, Ryan Kalish, J.P. Arencibia and Brett Wallace for the first posting). This is to eliminate the Alex Gordon’s and Kila Ka’aihue’s of the world who should be in the majors anyway.

Secondly, this is the first installment of this list. As the year(s) progress(es), there will be updates, changes, and maybe some omissions along the way. It’s hard enough keeping track of all 30 MLB teams, let alone their four main affiliates. With that said, I attempted to congregate all the top prospects that are worth more than the pine tar on their bats. There might be some prospects that I missed on accident and please point this out for I want to include them if they’re deemed worthy.

The July 31st trading deadline screwed a little beyond the expected.  The early call ups of Domonic Brown and Logan Morrison hindered the top ten players (had Brown number one and Morrison number seven). Pitchers are easier to project value into the majors leagues for they control more of their output, but hitters on the other hand are harder to project value into the majors leagues because one mini hot streak early on skews their value for fantasy. Nevertheless, there aren’t many pitchers in the twenty, but a lot in the top 30. This, I believe, is due to a pitcher’s ability to wreak havoc upon a team’s pitching ratios in a short amount of time, while a hitter holds value for a couple of oh-fer games (plus, one solid game makes his numbers digestible). That and power/speed or extreme power hitters are exponentially more valuable than a mid-tier pitcher, even if they are young (i.e. Matt Kemp, Ian Kinsler, and Justin Upton to name a few recent players).

Finally, I’m also biased.

Feel free to make recommendations, object to my rationale and critique my list.

A mini-breakdown:

  • 2 Pitchers in the Top 10 (Hellickson and Teheran)
  • 5 Pitchers in the Top 20 (the above and Chapman, Britton, Castro, Minor)
  • 13 Pitchers in the Top 30
  • 2 Middle Infielders (Ackley at 16 and Dee Gordon at 28)
  • 5.5 Catchers (Montero counts as half)
  1. weas says:
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    Awesome, thanks!

  2. Dave says:
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    I think your report on Pineda is a little off, or based more off last years performance than this year. I may be a little biased, being a Mariners fan, but he’s dominating AAA hitters in the PCL. His slider has improved by leaps and bounds, his change is a pitch he throws with confidence, and he is working on a cutter that has looked very good the couple times he’s thrown it each outing. Law had him at #25 before he hit AAA, and he probably moves up the list. If he does throw 4-5 plus pitches, some could consider him an ace. Check out Jason Churchill’s write up at PI, and know he’s not biased at all, and will be harsh on Seattle farmhands more often than not.

    http://tinyurl.com/25m23au

    If he keeps up what he’s doing in the PCL, I see no reason he can’t be a help as early as 2011 and a solid #2 in 2012. Keep in mind he’ll be pitching half of his games in Safeco, and he’s a more appealing prospect than some of the other SP’s on the list.

  3. thepizzaman says:
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    love it–thanks!

  4. brad says:
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    nice to have in addition to the breadth of StU. ¡Gracias!

  5. Dave says:
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    Oh, and lost in that criticism is also that I think this is awesome by the way. Keep up the great work guys.

  6. polczek5 says:
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    freakin awesome!

  7. Back to Minors says:
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    Razzball minds: why can’t a pitcher get a win and a save in the same outing? Just curious because today Capps got the win, but also really saved the game as well.

  8. JDub says:
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    Wow – this is a great idea and will be very helpful. If you could add an actual ETA date for major league arrival (I know it can be hard to predict, but at least some sort of estimate that can be periodically updated) I think it would make it even better.

  9. aconstipatedmonkey says:
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    And Razzball’s quest to make other fantasy websites obsolete just keeps chugging along. Well done sir.

  10. Awesome stuff, Stephen. Just wish Desmond Jennings was called up already – drafted him in an AL-only non-keeper league…been hoping BJ Upton pulls a hamstring for 4 months…

    @JDub: I imagine this is tough because call-ups are often driven by injuries. Domonic Brown got called up b/c of Shane Victorino’s injury. Mike Minor might get called up b/c Medlen got hurt…

  11. GopherDay says:
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    Awesome Stephen!! Can’t wait for more to come!!

  12. Beau says:
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    I think that makes 6 P in the top 20…great addition guys! Keep up the great work.

  13. Calogero says:
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    Good stuff, Stephen. Not to pick nits, but I think it’d be cool if you had one ranking that was a straight-up Ranking of prospects regardless of their level or ETA from the bigs. A list like that would be more useful to keeper leagues with minor league rosters.

    THEN, you could also have a side list that would be top prospects JUST for single-season redraft leagues. That list would just have guys who are likely to get called up and contribute in fantasy during that same year.

    I like the list right now, but I think if you try to please both types of leagues, you end up with a kind of unsatisfying combo.

  14. Munsu says:
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    I don’t agree with the Pineda place. I think he’s going to be more valuable than the reported here. Pitching in safeco and with the Mariners’ defense, he could be an ace in the near future. Besides, his secondary pitchers are becoming better and the fastball is breathtaking.

  15. Stephen

    Stephen says:
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    @Dave: You’re right in that I value you him a little lower than most are right now. The link you provided says he has one plus pitch (Fastball) and a slightly above average slider and two league average pitches (change-up and cutter). I was writing his value based upon some pre-season and early season articles I’ve read. The only thing in my defense is a low BABIP (.243 at Triple-A). He has great upside, I just don’t see it benefiting Fantasy Baseball immediately. But you’re right, he is valued a little bit lower than he probably should be. Should be one slot ahead of Kyle Gibson. Also, thank you for the compliment. (On a completely different note, this wouldn’t happen to be Dave Cameron of FanGraphs and USS Mariner?)

    @JDub: Like Rudy mentioned, ETA’s are extremely hard to predict with injuries to the MLB team and to the prospect,.

    @aconstipatedmonkey: I try to help out any way I can.

    @Calogero: There are plenty of top prospect list out there (Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, Keith Law, John Sickels, and a few other websites that venture out on their own). This format allows for a reporting type approach and not first hand knowledge (also helps to avoid any plagiarism or copy right infringement).

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    Regarding Pineda, because this is the most objection that I knew I’d receive: I wasn’t sold on his numbers yet due to a low BABIP at Triple-A (.243, but .307 at Double-A West Tenn) and an unsavory groundball rate (42.1 GB% at Triple-A and 43.2 GB% at Double-A). Higher groundball rates typically mean a lower BABIP, and this isn’t the case for Pineda. Pineda also has a 1.0 Hr/9 rate at Triple-A; this hasn’t hurt him, yet. His FIP and ERA are only .03 off (3.49 and 3.52 respectfully), showing for the most part his numbers are doing great.

    As Dave and Munsu has mentioned, he probably is TOO low on the ranking. I could fall back on to the premise of this being a straight fantasy rankings, but that would be too simple and wrong because Pineda has the potential to have a few great starts in September. However, I know he is low, probably a few slots too many. Nevertheless, his value this year isn’t as much as it will be next year when he will be higher in the rankings. Don’t let the hype make a pitcher better than his pitching ability (*cough Chris Tillman *cough – I’m guilty of this too, with the same player).

  16. Stephen

    Stephen says:
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    @Munsu: A breath-taking fastball isn’t a key to success. It’s helpful, but not contingent to making a pitcher great.

  17. Dave says:
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    Thanks for the reply, definitely on board with you across the board there. I think Pineda is sleeper for sure, really came into his own this year.

    Haha nope sorry to disappoint I am not Dave Cameron. This is meaningless Dave of USSM/LL/PI commenter fame.

  18. Howard says:
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    Stephen, thanks for all the useful info! Do you think Bourjos has a chance to become Ellesbury West?

  19. Stephen

    Stephen says:
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    @Howard: Yes.

    @Dave: Famous one way or another is close enough by my accord.

  20. Mr2Bits says:
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    Stephen : I see you have Kelly on there, do you like him better than Maya?

  21. GopherDay says:
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    @Stephen: What do you think about Michael Taylor’s struggles this year? He was primed for a breakout in Oakland, but that never really happened. I’m really hoping he turns it around considering I have him on my minor league team in my dynasty league.

    Any insight would be great!

  22. Domonic Brown doesn’t make the cut after 6 games in MLB, but Hellickson does after 6 IP? This is a list of the Top 50 Fantasy Prospects Among Minor Leaguers With No MLB Experience Except A Few Arbitrarily Selected By The Author For An Exemption.

    This would have been a better cutoff to use: “To qualify for rookie status, a player must not have exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues, or accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the 25-player limit period, excluding time on the disabled list or in military service.”

    Great compilation of information, however.

  23. GopherDay says:
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    @Alpine McGregor: I’m pretty sure that when he wrote this, Hellickson hadn’t thrown a single inning. Every single other one of the mentioned players that are in the majors just recently were called up.

  24. BAS says:
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    Any opinion out there on dropping 1 of Volquez, M. Gonzalez, Meek, Niese for Mike Minor?

  25. Stephen

    Stephen says:
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    @GopherDay: He is a toolsy prospect that was a bit old for his level last year. Didn’t like him much. Could be on the Honorable mention list.

    @Alpine McGregor: I had the list finished about 1 1/2 weeks ago. Domonic Brown and Morrison were the first one’s eliminated. I turned the list into a Page the day or so before Hellickson’s start and Wallace’s promotion. Arencibia was just called up as are many of the other prospects (Bourjus, etc.). I wasn’t trying to be arbitrary, but if I take the last free days out, this would be completely correct. You are 100 percent correct that I need a better cutoff point. Part of the problem is that once a top prospect gets called to the majors for the first time, most dedicated fantasy baseball players know who they are. Calogero comment about finding a balance between Top 50 overall prospect and Top 50 fantasy baseball prospects makes sense, but hard for my original intention.

    Hellickson got a spot-start and everyone knew it was just a single start; nothing more, nothing less. I struggled with how much reediting would be required in regards to who just got called up and compared it with a question I expected to hear, “Where would have Player (X) ranked on your list?” Thus, I kept the recently called up players on the list (same thing with Grey’s Closer Report that get updated once a week, except mine will get update about once more this season and I’ll have a new one up by February/March for next season).

    Thank you for your compliment at the end, I really appreciate all the honest feedback. I am not trying to defend against your point because you are right – there needs to be a better cutoff requirement. Thank you.

    @GopherDay: You are right, the list was complete over the weekend.

    @Calogero: How would you like to see these two different lists incorporated? I’m interested, but I’ll need more information from your end about what you are thinking.

  26. Stephen

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    @BAS: Meek in non-hold leagues and if you don’t need his few innings of ratio stats.

  27. Stephen

    Stephen says:
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    @BAS: Worried M.Gonzalez might get the closer job back.

  28. GopherDay says:
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    @Stephen: @Calogero: I think what he’s saying is having one list with THIS YEAR fantasy impact prospects, and one with a more long term look to it. Case in point, next year Harper will be a top 10 prospect almost everywhere, but he won’t have any fantasy impact for at least 2 more years. Not really worth keeping tabs on in re-draft leagues looking for a hot rookie pick-up, but long term keeper leagues and dynasty leagues would be more interested in how some players would rank looking several years down. Get what I’m saying?

  29. royce! says:
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    Hey Stephen– stoked on the additional prospect info. Thanks for providing it.

    Chris Carter has apparently seen a lot of time recently at LF, which could be interesting to note insofar as it could affect when he is promoted. As much as Barton seems irrelevant to the fantasy world (.387 SLG for a 1B), I guess the A’s love his OBP. Do you think Carter will be promoted soon to play in the OF?

  30. Bristol says:
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    In a keeper league and will be dropping MEdlen. Who’s the better pickup at this point: Maya or Minor?

  31. Stephen

    Stephen says:
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    @Rudy Gamble: re: Desmond Jennings – You and me both.

    @GopherDay: Yeah, that makes sense. I think I was following Calogero’s before then too, but got confused when I was responding before that. The Dynasty list would closely mirror most Top Prospect list though. That is what makes them so tricky to produce – that and the high turnover rate.

    @royce!: Anyway to get his bat in the lineup would be awesome from a fantasy perspective. However, he’s a first baseman for a reason. Carter should get a cup-of-joe in the majors this year (i.e. September)

  32. Stephen

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    @Bristol: Minor doesn’t have to adjust to America. Maya is older and may step right in. Hmm – Minor is much younger for a keeper league, and you don’t have to worry about any Latin-age jokes.

  33. dude says:
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    Stephen, I was going to write “awesome” but then I saw like eight people beat me to it. Anyway, thanks, you are a cool dude.

  34. Stephen

    Stephen says:
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    @dude: A ninth time never hurt anyway (except maybe a cat). Thanks for the compliments (and to all those who complimented me about the list).

  35. Adam says:
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    Great list buddy. I once mentioned it could be a great idea to have some kind of weekly column re: transactions and newly called up prospects, but the list is definitely worthy.

    Friendly suggestions if you get bored:
    — Estimated Debut Year/Month
    — Age
    — Preseason grades/rankings from other reputable sources (I have a sheet with all of this info if you’d like)
    — “Reminds me of: (which player)”- type of bullet point

    Once again, nice work. Thanks!

  36. PAU says:
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    Though I think it’s more or less assumed that it’s a 5×5 with approximately 12 teams and average amount of roster spots, I think a description of league settings would be instructive in the criteria used for player valuations. For instance, in a shallower league, ceiling would be much more important that floor, whereas the inverse would be true in a deeper league. Length of league would obviously play a lot on player value as well.

    Definitely disagree on the Pineda ranking. Was #11 on BA’s midseason list. The knock on Pineda has never been his stuff, just his durability. Definite frontline potential if healthy, especially in that ballpark with that defense.

    It’s also untrue that groundball pitchers have lower BABIPs than flyball pitchers. If anything, the inverse would be true, as groundballs are MUCH likelier to become hits than fly balls. The reason groundballs are valuable is that a) they won’t leave the ballpark, while approximately 11% of fly balls will and b) you’re much more likely to turn a double play.

    More of a nitpick, but the numbers this year don’t point to Montero “pounding the ‘roids out of the ball” this year. It’s not a concern to me, as the scouting reports all say his bat is special (especially if he maintains catcher eligibility), and his performance has recently picked up in a big way, but I did find the description to be inaccurate.

    I’ve NEVER heard of Randall Delgado being considered the more hyped pitcher between him and Teheran. Teheran has always been very highly regarded for his arm (though not his durability) and was a high-profile signee as a 16 year old, while Delgado really only started turning people’s heads in the second half of last year. The only person/people that I feel have hyped Delgado that much are Adam Foster and the guys at Project Prospect and that was only briefly prior to this season. Otherwise, I’m not certain I saw Delgado on any of the bigger top 100 lists, while Teheran was probably on all of them. Also, I’d personally consider a 3.1 BB/9 rate quite good for a 19 year old in AA, especially one that isn’t a total finesse guy.

    At this point, Flowers wouldn’t make the cut for me. I’ve never liked him, though, for real life or fantasy. He’s also had MLB experience.

    I disagree with Brett Wallace’s high placement. The numbers are there, but I don’t see the upside or insane production that would be needed for me to place him that high on the list as a 1B. For comparison, Freddie Freeman is three years younger and has comparable stats in a MUCH more difficult hitting environment. That said, how I’d value Wallace would largely depend on how deep the league is.

    Very unfortunate, but Wilin Rosario tore his ACL and his out for the year.

    For a fantasy list, I like the aggressive placement of Weglarz (though it’s still higher than I’d place him). I don’t like the comparison to Bay, though, with Bay garnering sneaky SB totals to pad his value. I’d consider him more along the lines of a Kubel in terms of what he might offer to a 5×5 fantasy player with power upside beyond that (but no speed).

    Chapman seems way too high for me. Obviously the velocity from a lefty is insane, but most of his productive stats have come as a reliever. Golden arm, but neither his minor league or Cuban league stats impress me much. There’s a very high ceiling here, but he needs another pitch to become even a fantasy-relevant reliever in my opinion.

    I like Britton, but I also feel he’s too high. As great as his stuff is supposed to be, it doesn’t lend itself to high strikeout rates. The overall package is real nice, but he’ll need to be extraordinarily exceptional with his ERA and WHIP to make up for a weak K rate. In this case, I feel his fantasy value doesn’t live up to his real life value.

    Perez seems very low to me. I understand that how soon he’d contribute is a large factor here, but his peripherals point to better performance than his surface numbers. In terms of raw stuff, he’s got to be amongst the top 3 with Scheppers and Teheran. At least that seems to be the consensus of what I’ve heard and read.

    Where have you heard that Kelly might not stay in the rotation? Though a bullpen move is a possibility for any young starter, I’ve heard nothing about Kelly that would suggest such a move more than any other minor league starter. It seems pretty counterintuitive since much of his prospect status has been built on him having a varied repertoire with the athleticism to repeat his pitches and put up with the physical stresses of starting. If you have a link, I’d be interested in reading it. TYIA.

    Unless you’re assuming a two-catcher league, I’d drop Romine and Ramos off the list. Much of their prospect value comes from how highly they’re graded defensively. They might turn into valuable offensive catchers, but their ceilings are relatively low for fantasy purposes and would offer little value over a replacement in a shallow league.

    By contrast, I’d move Myers up for the same reasons. While neither Romine or Ramos have a bat that is considered anywhere near good enough to be a good corner OF prospect, Myers’ bat is considered that good. His defense lags far behind his offense, but if he can garner catcher eligibility, his position will make him that much more valuable.

    Ten steals for Bourjos looks like a typo. I’d bump him up in 5×5 leagues for his speed, which is a relatively safe skill to translate to the bigs.

    Conger’s long been a personal favorite of mine for fantasy purposes, but I’m not certain I’d include him given the year he’s having.

    Sorry if this post seems overly critical. Obviously, prospecting is very inexact. I felt some of the info provided was incorrect and felt like sharing my thoughts on some other rankings. Overall, I like the list and appreciate the work that’s gone into it.

    Guys that warrant consideration: Grant Green, Casey Crosby (very risk/reward), Jake McGee, Jarrod Parker, Jacob Turner, Derek Norris, Jason Knapp, Nick Hagadone, Andrew Brackman, Arodys Vizcaino, Michael Taylor, Aaron Hicks, Jerry Sands, Matt Moore, Dellin Betances, Engel Beltre, Ryan Westmoreland (have to be patient), Fabio Martinez-Mesa, Thomas Neal

    My sleeper pick: Manny Banuelos
    Missed time due to an appendectomy, but stats so far are brilliant. Reports on stuff are mixed, but all laud his pitchability. Size holds him back in the eyes of many scouts.

    Biggest Omission in my opinion: Nick Franklin
    He’s no sure thing as an A ball playe, but he’s putting up great numbers as a 19 year old in the Midwest League (more or less the pitcher-friendly equivalent to the CAL League. One bomb and one steal away from 20/20 in 386 ABs. Plate discipline isn’t great, but isn’t terrible either. Oh yeah- he’s a shortstop.

    Most likely to squander his talent: Jeremy Jeffress
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jeremy+jeffress

  37. Stephen

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    @Adam: The ETA issue was discussed earlier by Rudy and I at different points but I’ll consider something along those lines. The Age should/could be placed easily, i just worry about making to too number intensive. I have some pre-season rankings, but same issue with the age. I’ll consider all of these.

    @PAU: Yeah, I try to assume the typical fantasy league, but trying to stay fantasy general. Grey does a great job of pegging their value when they are called up, I try to leave that to him, and add potential value to the equation.

    I knew Pineda was going to garner a lot of attention when I placed him so low, just didn’t think he’d cause this much. It makes sense that he keeps rising on prospects list, this fantasy list was made with the intention of the remaining value for this season – not next year. However, the point(s) are spot on.

    Groundball pitchers, in general terms, have closer to the mean BABIP. Flyball pitchers needs a great defense to keep their BABIP low (and keep the ball in the park). I wasn’t meaning that they have an extremely low BABIP, but that pitchers who cause a lot of groundballs typically have weaker hitting groundballs which lead to easy outs. You’re points are spot on as well.

    The Montero comment was made after the 2009 season. He has a great swing and has struggled this year. Still doesn’t remove the fact he’s 20 playing at Triple-A and holding his own.

    The Romine and Wilson Ramos additions were for larger leagues and the fact catcher is generally weak. Ramos has struggled this year but has been praised for his offense, not his defense. He is also relatively young (turns 23 on the 10th of August). But you’re correct, and I knew this, they aren’t elite hitting catchers like Wil Myers (who’s only at High-A and about 1 1/2 years from the majors) or Montero.

    Britton’s fantasy value isn’t Stephen Strasburg, but a hybrid of Roy Halladay and Andy Pettitte. His lack of strikeout hurt more if he was a flyball pitcher.

    Chapman is high, but strikeouts can buy some value.

    Perez is low because he has struggled at Double-A – a place most prospect analysis say is the first hitter and pitcher testing grounds. His long-term value is much higher than Fantasy’s constantly changing value.

    Not sure where I heard that, or if I speculated that. Might have been writing for the wrong person. Nice catch. Thank you.

    Bourjos is definitely a typo nice catch – should have said 15 homer and 40 homer potential.

    Conger was a late addition, and has struggled this year. Kind of my darkhorse.

    I am really appreciative of the overly critical nature of your comment. I has helped me for the update in a few weeks and players that get lost in the shuffle. It’s hard to make a perfect list that pleases every one and includes the right prospects. You’re definitely right about some other players that could have been mentioned. I tried hard to remove Low-A players because they are much further away from the majors than Double-A and Triple-A prospects. There are so many Top Prospect list for baseball in general that I’m trying to push this list towards only fantasy baseball. Any comments, critiques, or questions should always be mentioned (I asked for it in the article).

    As a Twins fan I thought about putting Hicks on the list somewhere but reserved him for the honorable mention. Westmoreland had head surgery and hasn’t played this year. Sands wont see the majors this year. Neal could have been there (swapped Flowers out for he was probably a panic pick – didn’t want to upset a White Sox fan).

    Thank you for your detailed comment. Email Grey and he’ll forward the message to me and we can have a more detailed conversation there. I would love to talk prospects with you more. Anyone is welcome to do this.

    Thanks for the Rosario update, I’m not sure how I missed that.

  38. Stephen

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    @royce!: (8-6-10 at 11:16 Eastern time) Via Rotoworld: The Athletics have moved prospect slugger Chris Carter to the outfield. “We moved Chris to the outfield because Daric Barton has really established himself at first base,” said Athletics assistant general manager David Forst. “We figured it wouldn’t hurt. … There’s not a big, grand plan.” Carter, 23, is batting .258/.362/.521 with 25 homers and 80 RBI for Triple-A Sacramento this season. It sure sounds like they are prepping him for a September call-up.

  39. Stephen

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    Jordan Lyles promoted to Triple-A (Via Rotoworld).

    Via Rotoworld:@PAU: (this is partially why Chapman is high – he’s getting called up sooner rather than later)
    Aroldis Chapman is likely to be called up in August so that he can be eligible for the postseason roster, according to ESPN’s Buster Olney.
    No surprise here. A recent tweak in his delivery has led to dominating results lately for Chapman, who has been unscored upon over his last 11 1/3 innings and has a 16/4 K/BB ratio over that time. He could be quite a weapon out of the pen for the Reds down the stretch.

  40. PAU says:
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    You’re a Twins fan, but you’re afraid of upsetting a White Sox fan? Come onnnnnnn! And if you’re in the Twin Cities, I’ll buy you a beer sometime.

    I can definitely appreciate the difficulty of making a list. Keeping track of everything is one thing, small differences of opinion in rank become magnified (and I didn’t exactly help with my comments), and even the most well-researched lists end up looking poor in retrospect with the high rate of attrition.

    I’ll email Grey with my email. I don’t really have much else to say at the moment, but I can always appreciate talking baseball. And like I said, if you’re in the cities, I’ll buy you a beer.

  41. Stephen

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    @PAU: I didn’t mean it as a crutch (the upsetting of a White Sox fan). Much like the Pineda controversy, if Flowers was off the list, I could see people ripping me, and thus I decided (although wrongly so because he was up last year) to place him towards the end of the Top 50. That’s what I meant.

    Your comments were welcomed and will help tremendously in the update before September 1st (got to be ready for the last month of the season – plus the minor league season is done, well, mostly).

  42. PAU says:
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    I know you didn’t mean it as a crutch. It’s more that as a Twins fan, I tend to go out of my way to antagonize my friends that are White Sox fans.

  43. Stephen

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    @PAU: Ha! I do that too, just not enough. Plus, my White Sox friends typically hold other things over my head – the 2005 World Series. At least A.J. Pierzynski was rocked by Torii Hunter a few years back and that Gardenhire isn’t completely loco.

  44. Doog says:
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    Dynasty league — would you rather have Chapman and Matusz or Bumgarner and M. Perez?

  45. Stephen

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    @Doog: Bumgarner and Perez.

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