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Finally, we come to the end of the 2013 fantasy baseball rankings. (Can we start games already?) A little birdie told me we’re opening up our commenter fantasy leagues on Monday.  Then the little birdie pooped on my shoulder and I thought it was blue cheese and I put it on a cracker and– Wait, where was I?  Okay, you know that I like Brett Gardner more than Carlos Gomez in the top 60 outfielders for 2013 fantasy baseball. You know I like Alcides Escobar less than Erick Aybar as seen at the top 20 shortstops for 2012 fantasy baseball, but you don’t know how I feel about where these guys fall in the bigger picture.  Is Aybar above Gardner?  So to show you where I think players fall in relation to each other in 2013 fantasy baseball drafts, I’m putting together a top 400 for 2013 fantasy baseball. This still needs to be taken with a grain of salt. If you have a shortstop already and Aybar is still on the board in the 17th round, you don’t draft him if you see Carlos Gomez and you need an outfielder, even though Gomez is below Aybar on this list. So I might take someone at 200 over someone at 180? Yes, every draft is different. With the top 10, there’s almost no latitude. With the top 100, there’s a decent amount of latitude. With a top 400, there’s lots of latitude. You taking someone at 185 is more or less the same as someone else taking someone at 235. So if you see someone who’s ranked at 250th, but want them at 200, then do what you do. Because of the length of the top 400, there’s no pithy comments with each name, but you kinda do need to know what I’m thinking for each name, so I advise you go over each position in the 2013 fantasy baseball rankings. The top 100 and top 400 is what I would have at my drafts, along with the Point Shares and the top 20 rankings posts. Along with the Fantasy Baseball War Room if I was drafting online (which is hopefully ready on Tuesday).  This top 400 for 2013 fantasy baseball will live under that link that also has the 2013 Steamer projections.  Finally, see our list of all players with multiple position eligibility. Anyway, here’s the top 400 for 2013 fantasy baseball:

Filter By Date for Stream-o-Nator or by Position for Player Raters (P = All Pitchers, -P = All Hitters):
RankPlayerTeamESPN PosY PosRHRRBISBAVGWLSVERAWHIPKLast Updated
1Miguel CabreraDET3B3B1103912430.3274/1/2013
2Ryan BraunMILOFOF10534116220.3194/1/2013
3Andrew McCutchenPITOFOF10230107270.2954/1/2013
4Mike TroutLAAOFOF10819102480.3264/1/2013
5Robinson CanoNYA2B2B1053011040.3104/1/2013
6Albert PujolsLAA1B1B1033211270.2974/1/2013
7Prince FielderDET1B1B943911710.2914/1/2013
8Joey VottoCIN1B1B1042511050.3204/1/2013
9Giancarlo StantonMIAOFOF924511070.2774/1/2013
10Justin UptonATLOFOF10028104190.2844/1/2013
11Carlos GonzalezCOLOFOF10028102190.3074/1/2013
12Evan LongoriaTB3B3B893210750.2834/1/2013
13Adam JonesBALOFOF9034100150.2844/1/2013
14Matt KempLADOFOF8825100190.2944/1/2013
15Josh HamiltonLAAOFOF922910970.2774/1/2013
16Adrian BeltreTEX3B3B822810320.2814/1/2013
17Ian KinslerTEX2B2B1022577200.2584/1/2013
18Jose BautistaTOROFOF913210050.2724/1/2013
19Paul GoldschmidtARI1B1B8429104120.2744/1/2013
20Adrian GonzalezLAD1B1B,OF862911210.2924/1/2013
21Justin VerlanderDETSPSP20702.711.032344/1/2013
22Troy TulowitzkiCOLSSSS83259870.2884/1/2013
23Jose ReyesTORSSSS1101260400.2854/1/2013
24Dustin PedroiaBOS2B2B9017100200.2914/1/2013
25Stephen StrasburgWASSPSP18602.771.052274/1/2013
26Ryan ZimmermanWAS3B3B882710860.2934/1/2013
27Edwin EncarnacionTOR1B1B87309870.2694/1/2013
28David WrightNYN3B3B8824102150.2864/1/2013
29Matt HollidaySTLOFOF922610050.3044/1/2013
30Buster PoseySFC,1BC,1B74259710.3094/1/2013
31Starlin CastroCHNSSSS921683250.3104/1/2013
32David PriceTBSPSP16802.901.092104/1/2013
33Jay BruceCINOFOF953510570.2594/1/2013
34Shin-Soo ChooCINOFOF1082379200.2964/1/2013
35Jason HeywardATLOFOF872594100.2624/1/2013
36Bryce HarperWASOFOF1022569220.2614/1/2013
37Brandon PhillipsCIN2B2B821875150.2754/1/2013
38Ben ZobristTB2B,SS,OF2B,SS,OF851875180.2644/1/2013
39Clayton KershawLADSPSP17702.981.102184/1/2013
40Felix HernandezSEASPSP14903.101.122194/1/2013
41Zack GreinkeLADSPSP16802.971.122154/1/2013
42Pablo SandovalSF3B3B84259030.2894/1/2013
43Cole HamelsPHISPSP16603.041.092124/1/2013
44B.J. UptonATLOFOF902572390.2554/1/2013
45Jimmy RollinsPHISSSS881961240.2484/1/2013
46Matt CainSFSPSP15802.951.041914/1/2013
47Desmond JenningsTBOFOF921759350.2624/1/2013
48Jacoby EllsburyBOSOFOF891464350.2864/1/2013
49Yoenis CespedesOAKOFOF822595150.2814/1/2013
50Madison BumgarnerSFSPSP16903.281.081954/1/2013
51Craig KimbrelATLRPRP52462.070.921074/1/2013
52Gio GonzalezWASSPSP171003.291.162074/1/2013
53Cliff LeePHISPSP131003.051.062124/1/2013
54Max ScherzerDETSPSP15603.301.242254/1/2013
55Adam WainwrightSTLSPSP16803.121.191934/1/2013
56Billy ButlerKC1B1B75269510.3094/1/2013
57Ike DavisNYN1B1B76341020.2594/1/2013
58Allen CraigSTL1B,OF1B,OF67238330.3154/1/2013
59Carlos SantanaCLEC,1BC,1B79269430.2594/1/2013
60Ian DesmondWASSSSS682077180.2644/1/2013
61Jordan ZimmermannWASSPSP141003.091.131724/1/2013
62Mat LatosCINSPSP16903.331.121884/1/2013
63Matt MooreTBSPSP15903.191.232254/1/2013
64Aramis RamirezMIL3B3B72248730.2774/1/2013
65Aroldis ChapmanCINSPSP62412.350.951184/1/2013
66Aaron HillARI2B2B862280120.2634/1/2013
67Elvis AndrusTEXSSSS91560350.2854/1/2013
68Austin JacksonDETOFOF1051562200.2884/1/2013
69Alex GordonKCOFOF9227105100.2904/1/2013
70Hunter PenceSFOFOF81249570.2844/1/2013
71Alex RiosCHAOFOF881970180.2814/1/2013
72Nelson CruzTEXOFOF74258670.2654/1/2013
73Carlos BeltranSTLOFOF752389100.2794/1/2013
74Freddie FreemanATL1B1B90259820.2674/1/2013
75Mark TrumboLAA1B,OF1B,OF62288250.2584/1/2013
76Jered WeaverLAASPSP16703.331.101724/1/2013
77Jonathan PapelbonPHIRPRP42432.551.02854/1/2013
78CC SabathiaNYASPSP161003.561.201884/1/2013
79Chris SaleCHASPSP13603.451.181784/1/2013
80R.A. DickeyTORSPSP16803.381.171824/1/2013
81James ShieldsKCSPSP131003.771.261984/1/2013
82Yu DarvishTEXSPSP151003.741.242284/1/2013
83Yovani GallardoMILSPSP151003.691.262054/1/2013
84Kris MedlenATLSPSP13803.441.181614/1/2013
85Jake PeavyCHASPSP12603.601.141754/1/2013
86Danny EspinosaWAS2B,SS2B,SS781958200.2454/1/2013
87Anthony RizzoCHN1B1B74248660.2594/1/2013
88Matt WietersBALCC71248520.2644/1/2013
89Brett LawrieTOR3B3B681677140.2784/1/2013
90Joe MauerMINC,1BC,1B83138970.3154/1/2013
91Jason MotteSTLRPRP53412.621.00824/1/2013
92Mariano RiveraNYARPRP31353.081.12504/1/2013
93Chris DavisBAL1B,OF1B,OF66288220.2514/1/2013
94Johnny CuetoCINSPSP151003.471.221544/1/2013
95Roy HalladayPHISPSP13903.641.151824/1/2013
96Jon LesterBOSSPSP14903.781.281864/1/2013
97Jeff SamardzijaCHNSPSP12703.451.241954/1/2013
98Josh RutledgeCOLSSSS921751200.2624/1/2013
99Eric HosmerKC1B1B752290120.2804/1/2013
100Todd FrazierCIN1B,3B1B,3B72298950.2684/1/2013
101David OrtizBOSDHDH82289800.2794/1/2013
102Ryan HowardPHI1B1B7930980.2454/1/2013
103Kendrys MoralesSEA1B1B7726890.2724/1/2013
104Asdrubal CabreraCLESSSS771786140.2724/1/2013
105Jose AltuveHOU2B2B87843280.3044/1/2013
106Salvador PerezKCCC6219790.3124/1/2013
107Jon NieseNYNSPSP13803.391.141644/1/2013
108Brandon MorrowTORSPSP16703.201.142054/1/2013
109Josh WillinghamMINOFOF78298930.2574/1/2013
110Curtis GrandersonNYAOFOF712482110.2424/1/2013
111Shane VictorinoBOSOFOF921466290.2724/1/2013
112Emilio BonifacioTOROF2B,OF79349420.2634/1/2013
113Victor MartinezDETCC82151050.3074/1/2013
114Rickie WeeksMIL2B2B892059120.2544/1/2013
115Jason KipnisCLE2B2B781572150.2514/1/2013
116Kyle SeagerSEA3B2B,3B691885110.2644/1/2013
117Chase UtleyPHI2B2B681474100.2674/1/2013
118Dan UgglaATL2B2B82268830.2274/1/2013
119Martin PradoARI3B,OF2B,SS,3B,OF861268120.2984/1/2013
120Ichiro SuzukiNYAOFOF881262220.2894/1/2013
121Michael BournCLEOFOF97349400.2694/1/2013
122Torii HunterDETOFOF87207880.2604/1/2013
123Andre EthierLADOFOF83238730.2854/1/2013
124Nick MarkakisBALOFOF82178550.2934/1/2013
125Josh ReddickOAKOFOF83279070.2554/1/2013
126Norichika AokiMILOFOF851254270.2954/1/2013
127Dexter FowlerCOLOFOF92950270.2694/1/2013
128Joe NathanTEXRPRP44422.981.05744/1/2013
129Sergio RomoSFRPRP31352.441.01694/1/2013
130Rafael SorianoWASRPRP63392.891.09814/1/2013
131Tom WilhelmsenSEARPRP36332.761.13824/1/2013
132Greg HollandKCRPRP55343.241.23944/1/2013
133Huston StreetSDRPRP24252.371.01504/1/2013
134Wilin RosarioCOLCC58257530.2524/1/2013
135Jesus MonteroSEACC6618840.2694/1/2013
136Homer BaileyCINSPSP16903.571.201884/1/2013
137Jarrod ParkerOAKSPSP14703.611.271764/1/2013
138Ian KennedyARISPSP141103.811.201914/1/2013
139Mike MinorATLSPSP111003.871.221814/1/2013
140A.J. BurnettPITSPSP131103.671.251844/1/2013
141Tommy MiloneOAKSPSP91003.581.261474/1/2013
142Tim LincecumSFSPSP121003.981.281994/1/2013
143Carl CrawfordLADOFOF781284310.2704/1/2013
144Brett GardnerNYAOFOF102845460.2814/1/2013
145Starling MartePITOFOF771258270.2524/1/2013
146Michael MorseSEAOFOF6725810.2864/1/2013
147Michael CuddyerCOL1B,OF1B,OF71228490.2714/1/2013
148Paul KonerkoCHA1B1B7225840.2774/1/2013
149Mike MoustakasKC3B3B75259230.2594/1/2013
150Will MiddlebrooksBOS3B3B68228280.2784/1/2013
151Manny MachadoBAL3B3B721981120.2744/1/2013
152Erick AybarLAASSSS92962240.2924/1/2013
153Howie KendrickLAA2B2B701078140.2904/1/2013
154Alcides EscobarKCSSSS81455330.2784/1/2013
155Phil HughesNYASPSP131003.891.221644/1/2013
156Pedro AlvarezPIT3B3B60278110.2454/1/2013
157David FreeseSTL3B3B74189030.2974/1/2013
158Josh JohnsonTORSPSP14803.861.261604/1/2013
159Adam LaRocheWAS1B1B73259510.2604/1/2013
160Anibal SanchezDETSPSP13903.921.281804/1/2013
161Matt GarzaCHNSPSP8903.741.241684/1/2013
162Dan HarenWASSPSP7603.951.271204/1/2013
163Hiroki KurodaNYASPSP151203.681.191654/1/2013
164Doug FisterDETSPSP13803.491.171454/1/2013
165Josh BeckettLADSPSP15703.441.251654/1/2013
166Mike NapoliBOSC,1BC,1B71268420.2424/1/2013
167Hanley RamirezLADSS,3BSS,3B691779140.2534/1/2013
168Lance LynnSTLSPSP12703.941.341824/1/2013
169Wade MileyARISPSP11903.881.281424/1/2013
170Glen PerkinsMINRPRP25292.911.09744/1/2013
171Casey JanssenTORRPRP32372.781.07674/1/2013
172John AxfordMILRPRP33343.101.18904/1/2013
173Jonathan LucroyMILCC6116760.2724/1/2013
174Miguel MonteroARICC5916760.2704/1/2013
175Yadier MolinaSTLCC58136860.2954/1/2013
176A.J. PierzynskiTEXCC5115600.2654/1/2013
177Neil WalkerPIT2B2B75148290.2724/1/2013
178Kelly JohnsonTB2B2B681759130.2464/1/2013
179Mark ReynoldsCLE1B1B,3B79298860.2264/1/2013
180Adam DunnCHA1B1B82359510.2124/1/2013
181Derek JeterNYASSSS74105180.2884/1/2013
182Nick SwisherCLE1B,OF1B,OF72248520.2614/1/2013
183Kevin YoukilisNYA1B,3B1B,3B7420880.2594/1/2013
184Lance BerkmanTEX1B1B64197730.2794/1/2013
185Justin MorneauMIN1B1B70247810.2654/1/2013
186Jean SeguraMILSSSS75550320.2824/1/2013
187Trevor PlouffeMIN3B3B,OF65227220.2444/1/2013
188Chase HeadleySD3B3B60157890.2714/1/2013
189Carlos GomezMILOFOF791552250.2434/1/2013
190Jayson WerthWASOFOF871970120.2594/1/2013
191Brett AndersonOAKSPSP9703.491.181104/1/2013
192Trevor CahillARISPSP141103.671.281624/1/2013
193Adam LindTOR1B1B61247310.2544/1/2013
194Ryan VogelsongSFSPSP13803.651.251604/1/2013
195Michael YoungPHI1B,3B1B,2B,3B7677020.2724/1/2013
196Fernando RodneyTBRPRP45323.641.31504/1/2013
197Steve CishekMIARPRP25222.891.19624/1/2013
198Jim JohnsonBALRPRP45383.391.22444/1/2013
199J.J. PutzARIRPRP32303.121.07544/1/2013
200Carlos PenaHOU1B1B64248320.2114/1/2013
201Corey HartMIL1B,OF1B,OF54186420.2774/1/2013
202Mark TeixeiraNYA1B1B5717650.2494/1/2013
203Mike OltTEX3B3B28164410.2454/1/2013
204Alex RodriguezNYA3B3B40134460.2634/1/2013
205Tommy HansonLAASPSP121003.871.301694/1/2013
206Ryan DempsterBOSSPSP131003.901.311884/1/2013
207C.J. WilsonLAASPSP12803.971.331604/1/2013
208Jeremy HellicksonTBSPSP91003.781.271384/1/2013
209Brandon McCarthyARISPSP10703.641.201174/1/2013
210Marco EstradaMILSPSP101003.741.261754/1/2013
211A.J. GriffinOAKSPSP91103.451.191354/1/2013
212Matt HarveyNYNSPSP10703.921.341924/1/2013
213Felix DoubrontBOSSPSP121203.921.331854/1/2013
214Dillon GeeNYNSPSP12803.821.241574/1/2013
215Hyun-Jin RyuLADSPSP8603.951.191104/1/2013
216Alexi OgandoTEXSPSP12903.771.151354/1/2013
217Chris TillmanBALSPSP91003.871.321424/1/2013
218Mike FiersMILSPSP1183.891.291674/1/2013
219Alex CobbTBSPSP10803.861.301474/1/2013
220Alex AvilaDETCC48166020.2624/1/2013
221J.P. ArencibiaTORCC45217310.2374/1/2013
222Brett WallaceHOU1B1B62198210.2634/1/2013
223Everth CabreraSDSSSS45122350.2404/1/2013
224Zack CozartCINSSSS721781100.2554/1/2013
225Brandon BeltSF1B1B601474100.2624/1/2013
226Yonder AlonsoSD1B1B65167440.2814/1/2013
227Ben ReverePHIOFOF82139450.2914/1/2013
228Denard SpanWASOFOF86542220.2814/1/2013
229Andrelton SimmonsATLSSSS56567150.2724/1/2013
230Marco ScutaroSF2B,SS2B,SS,3B8376080.2794/1/2013
231Edwin JacksonCHNSPSP91204.111.331794/1/2013
232Michael SaundersSEAOFOF721560200.2514/1/2013
233Jed LowrieOAKSSSS52176220.2544/1/2013
234Alejandro De AzaCHAOFOF88852300.2844/1/2013
235Chris CarterHOU1B1B56247140.2394/1/2013
236Dustin AckleySEA2B1B,2B801652120.2454/1/2013
237Placido PolancoMIA3B3B7455240.2684/1/2013
238Jedd GyorkoSD3B3B60187040.2654/1/2013
239Chris JohnsonATL3B3B44134840.2744/1/2013
240Juan FranciscoATL3B3B51165420.2514/1/2013
241Joel HanrahanBOSRPRP34333.891.33624/1/2013
242Grant BalfourOAKRPRP41293.541.07694/1/2013
243Chris PerezCLERPRP24373.191.16574/1/2013
244Shaun MarcumNYNSPSP9703.841.291454/1/2013
245Ryan DoumitMINC,OFC,OF4415620.2684/1/2013
246Jarrod SaltalamacchiaBOSCC4217550.2174/1/2013
247A.J. EllisLADCC4595100.2644/1/2013
248Russell MartinPITCC44145850.2394/1/2013
249Brian McCannATLCC4012550.2424/1/2013
250Angel PaganSFOFOF85752260.2724/1/2013
251Michael BrantleyCLEOFOF83757200.2924/1/2013
252Melky CabreraTOROFOF90969150.2654/1/2013
253Cameron MaybinSDOFOF78952280.2574/1/2013
254Coco CrispOAKOFOF68844350.2724/1/2013
255Leonys MartinTEXOFOF851250170.2804/1/2013
256Lorenzo CainKCOFOF771754200.2724/1/2013
257Colby RasmusTOROFOF69217480.2424/1/2013
258Alfonso SorianoCHNOFOF54237450.2544/1/2013
259Ryan LudwickCINOFOF57247710.2674/1/2013
260Rafael BetancourtCOLRPRP34323.271.10594/1/2013
261Jason GrilliPITRPRP24302.341.12544/1/2013
262Matt HarrisonTEXSPSP131003.881.291304/1/2013
263James McDonaldPITSPSP10904.011.281554/1/2013
264Tim HudsonATLSPSP12703.901.241004/1/2013
265Jason KubelARIOFOF62228110.2484/1/2013
266Chris IannettaLAACC40155310.2464/1/2013
267Lonnie ChisenhallCLE3B3B59167930.2534/1/2013
268Josh DonaldsonOAK3B3B58166840.2584/1/2013
269Gordon BeckhamCHA2B2B72196850.2594/1/2013
270J.J. HardyBALSSSS6820790.2444/1/2013
271Alexei RamirezCHASSSS661270120.2594/1/2013
272Dayan ViciedoCHAOFOF60227210.2494/1/2013
273Delmon YoungPHIOFOF66167120.2744/1/2013
274Brandon MossOAK1B,OF1B,OF45195820.2554/1/2013
275Domonic BrownPHIOFOF54136280.2684/1/2013
276John MayberryPHI1B,OF1B,OF49166320.2534/1/2013
277Drew StubbsCLEOFOF541455310.2444/1/2013
278Chris YoungFASPSP31174290.2624/1/2013
279Kyle LohseMILSPSP91204.091.291304/1/2013
280Ernesto FrieriLAARPRP64173.191.26884/1/2013
281Addison ReedCHARPRP43273.901.28524/1/2013
282Brandon LeagueLADRPRP14173.891.28494/1/2013
283David RobertsonNYARPRP4572.231.131004/1/2013
284Bud NorrisHOUSPSP81003.901.331904/1/2013
285Jason HammelBALSPSP101103.671.261754/1/2013
286Dylan BundyBALSPSP8303.401.101504/1/2013
287Shelby MillerSTLSPSP10403.631.271554/1/2013
288Kyle KendrickPHISPSP121003.721.251304/1/2013
289Hisashi IwakumaSEASPSP91203.561.261524/1/2013
290Derek NorrisOAKCC42136070.2054/1/2013
291Tyler FlowersCHACC40145230.2004/1/2013
292Aaron HicksMINOFOF81842250.2574/1/2013
293Tyler ColvinCOL1B,OF1B,OF52155950.2674/1/2013
294Peter BourjosLAAOFOF551161200.2494/1/2013
295Vernon WellsNYAOFOF62176750.2564/1/2013
296Garrett JonesPIT1B,OF1B,OF59226540.2674/1/2013
297Logan MorrisonMIA1B,OF1B,OF67197820.2404/1/2013
298Carlos MarmolCHNRPRP24173.981.43844/1/2013
299Ryan CookOAKRPRP7383.051.09944/1/2013
300Kenley JansenLADRPRP51222.251.02904/1/2013
301Joaquin BenoitDETRPRP42223.221.10824/1/2013
302Bobby ParnellNYNRPRP53142.981.31654/1/2013
303Jose VerasHOURPRP15194.371.47824/1/2013
304Vance WorleyMINSPSP91103.901.281554/1/2013
305Wily PeraltaMILSPSP71004.121.331354/1/2013
306Nathan EovaldiMIASPSP81204.151.361444/1/2013
307Wade LeBlancMIASPSP91304.041.331004/1/2013
308Trevor BauerCLESPSP6703.851.381684/1/2013
309Mike LeakeCINSPSP8104.061.321254/1/2013
310Carlos VillanuevaCHNSPSP81004.101.321624/1/2013
311Andrew CashnerSDSPSP6403.351.24784/1/2013
312Frank FranciscoNYNRPRP25154.591.33404/1/2013
313Andrew BaileyBOSRPRP5454.221.25404/1/2013
314Dan StrailyOAKSPSP7904.121.291354/1/2013
315Tyler SkaggsARISPSP5304.101.29954/1/2013
316Wil MyersTBOFOF37164250.2804/1/2013
317Adam EatonARIOFOF57739190.2704/1/2013
318Donovan SolanoMIA2B2B,3B,OF72360100.2654/1/2013
319Omar InfanteDET2B2B6276790.2704/1/2013
320Carlos RuizPHICC4495330.2744/1/2013
321Brandon MaurerSEASPSP8104.141.311004/1/2013
322Yasmani GrandalSDCC3210480.2924/1/2013
323Brian RobertsBAL2B2B4232270.2594/1/2013
324Ryan MadsonLAARPRP21183.901.24364/1/2013
325Daniel MurphyNYN2B1B,2B6546060.2954/1/2013
326Stephen DrewBOSSSSS42155520.2624/1/2013
327Yunel EscobarTBSSSS7885750.2614/1/2013
328Darwin BarneyCHN2B2B6365970.2624/1/2013
329Cliff PenningtonARI2B,SS2B,SS55748190.2504/1/2013
330Travis dArnaudNYNCC40165630.2834/1/2013
331Cody RossARIOFOF67194930.2604/1/2013
332Josh VittersCHN3B3B38124730.2494/1/2013
333Jacob TurnerMIASPSP7804.221.271104/1/2013
334Julio TeheranATLSPSP7904.451.401104/1/2013
335Cory LuebkeSDSPSP6303.601.19804/1/2013
336Brandon BeachyATLSPSP8403.471.23844/1/2013
337Colby LewisTEXSPSP7503.751.21874/1/2013
338Michael PinedaNYASPSP5304.301.25964/1/2013
339Daniel HudsonARISPSP2104.051.32274/1/2013
340Wandy RodriguezPITSPSP111303.981.301324/1/2013
341Derek HollandTEXSPSP131104.101.271504/1/2013
342Wei-Yin ChenBALSPSP101204.171.291484/1/2013
343Justin MastersonCLESPSP91003.901.361624/1/2013
344Jason VargasLAASPSP13904.221.301294/1/2013
345Oscar TaverasSTLOFOF3572590.2754/1/2013
346Matt CarpenterSTL1B,3B,OF1B,3B,OF5485920.2824/1/2013
347Collin CowgillNYNOFOF41443170.2404/1/2013
348David MurphyTEXOFOF631672100.2784/1/2013
349Justin RuggianoMIAOFOF721232150.2584/1/2013
350Darin MastroianniMINOFOF81337320.2424/1/2013
351Chris ParmeleeMIN1B1B,OF54156410.2684/1/2013
352Lucas DudaNYNOFOF51176210.2524/1/2013
353Juan PierreMIAOFOF61122300.2954/1/2013
354Nate McLouthBALOFOF711252120.2524/1/2013
355Franklin GutierrezSEAOFOF541157100.2504/1/2013
356Jhonny PeraltaDETSSSS56157010.2454/1/2013
357Ruben TejadaNYNSSSS7323460.2824/1/2013
358Jurickson ProfarTEX2B2B30520100.2904/1/2013
359Pedro CiriacoBOS3B2B,SS,3B41323200.2754/1/2013
360Eduardo NunezNYASSSS46341200.2614/1/2013
361Adeiny HechavarriaMIASSSS,3B5944270.2424/1/2013
362Jonny GomesBOSOFOF53165730.2454/1/2013
363Kirk NieuwenhuisNYNOFOF54126860.2484/1/2013
364David DeJesusCHNOFOF81104560.2574/1/2013
365Carlos QuentinSDOFOF64217510.2484/1/2013
366Justin MaxwellHOUOFOF482058120.2354/1/2013
367Ross DetwilerWASSPSP12904.091.301184/1/2013
368Jon JaySTLOFOF62652120.3014/1/2013
369Jeff FrancoeurKCOFOF55186770.2554/1/2013
370Andy DirksDETOFOF50125990.2984/1/2013
371Rick PorcelloDETSPSP1283.781.201054/1/2013
372Travis SniderPITOFOF48155730.2484/1/2013
373Will VenableSDOFOF52941200.2604/1/2013
374Gregor BlancoSFOFOF48441190.2404/1/2013
375Mike CarpBOS1B,OF1B,OF32164810.2404/1/2013
376Logan ForsytheSD2B2B3754270.2624/1/2013
377Brandon GuyerTBOFOF40546170.2884/1/2013
378Brad PeacockHOUSPSP794.191.261104/1/2013
379Ricky NolascoMIASPSP101104.331.341334/1/2013
380Erik BedardHOUSPSP754.221.33894/1/2013
381Clay BuchholzBOSSPSP12804.021.311384/1/2013
382Aaron HarangLADSPSP9803.951.391154/1/2013
383Ubaldo JimenezCLESPSP101404.421.451404/1/2013
384Matt JoyceTBOFOF59166950.2504/1/2013
385Seth SmithOAKOFOF53155530.2684/1/2013
386Nate SchierholtzCHNOFOF42113950.2744/1/2013
387Jaime GarciaSTLSPSP5804.071.38904/1/2013
388Paul MaholmATLSPSP9804.171.351154/1/2013
389Henderson AlvarezMIASPSP71204.301.40904/1/2013
390John DanksCHASPSP11903.971.331404/1/2013
391Jeff KeppingerCHA1B,2B,3B1B,2B,3B5374110.2824/1/2013

From Around The Web

  1. Dale says:
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    Please tell me you’re using Yahoo to host the leagues this year.

    • Steve says:
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      @Dale: Nope, it’s at ESPN. Makes it easier for Grey and co to see the leagues, collect stats etc.

      • Grilled Cheese Please says:
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        @Steve: @Steve: BOOO! ESPN is second fiddle to Yahoo!

        • @Grilled Cheese Please: Yeah, we were very close to switching but all our automated league stats/standings pages are written for ESPN.

          FWIW, While we’re closer to the ‘perts at Yahoo than ESPN (Behrens, PIanowski, Del Don, Evans….all great guys…not that the ESPN guys aren’t…), I prefer ESPN (and CBSSports) for a couple reasons:
          1) I prefer ESPN’s 20 Game eligibility to Yahoo’s 10 game position eligibility
          2) I prefer the ESPN default 5 OF/CI/MI/UTIL roster to Yahoo’s 3 OF/2 UTIL
          3) Yahoo’s real-time standings thingy is built in Flash and, thus, doesn’t work on iPad or iPhone. Infuriating.

          That said, our surveys have shown that Razzballers definitely use Yahoo more than ESPN/CBSSports and, thus, you’ll see Yahoo rankings / position eligibility throughout the Player Rater.

  2. Aaron Oz says:
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    Thanks for another year of great rankings.

    I think the top 400 list is awesome. The whole page seems like it was designed really well and it will be easy to use in the middle of drafts.

  3. SmokeTNT says:
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    I’m in a 12 team H2H 8×8 daily league keeping 5 players this year and I can’t decide on the last one. Trout, Tulo, Posey, and Justin Upton are surefire keepers. The choices for the 5th are (in order of Yahoo rank) BJ Upton, Panda, Brandon Phillips, and Joe Mauer. BJ is ranked the highest but could kill my AVG and K count, while Panda and Phillips are decent choices at what will be scarce positions come draft time. Mauer I find interesting because I would have 2 top catcher/first basemen which could come in handy on their off days or in case of injury and I could back them up with a low tier 1B. They’re ranked pretty closely and I doubt I could get any of them back with my draft position. Any suggestions?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @SmokeTNT: Panda… Nice keepers any way you go…

      • SmokeTNT says:
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        @Grey: Awesome, thanks! He recently tore up the Venezuela league and since he has no more hamate bones left to break I’m hoping he has a huge year.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No more hamate bones to tempt can’t hurt… Literally…

  4. Trampled by donkeys says:
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    Hate to be greedy, but possible to customize for OBP leagues? Thanks for all the great work!

    • Rags says:
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      @Trampled by donkeys: Would like OBP. Also, if you already have them, estimated PA and IP would be useful. I know you don’t want to overcrowd the graph, but those are important stats, I would think.

      • @Rags: OBP projections are available at http://razzball.com/steamer-hitter-projections-2013/. Grey doesn’t project them and I didn’t feel comfortable bolting on Steamer’s OBP to Grey’s projections since it might overstate/understate a player’s walking skills (e.g., if Grey and Steamer have big AVG differences).

        My PA/IP projections are in the Steamer projections as well as all the Auction Value grids in the ‘Player Rater’ section. I didn’t put those in Grey’s rankings since he didn’t use them as part of his projections so there might be weird conflicts (e.g., a guy with only 150 PAs but 15 HRs). The Steamer projections and the Auction Values all use the same PA/IP.

    • @Trampled by donkeys: We have rankings and auction values for 5×5 OBP (instead of AVG) and 6×6 (AVG + OBP) in the ‘Player Rater’ section:

      http://razzball.com/playerrater-preseason-espnmlb12-5X5OBP/
      http://razzball.com/playerrater-preseason-espnmlb12-6X6OBP/

      If you want to adjust Grey’s rankings, you could use the ‘$ Diff from Std 5×5′ column in the 5×5 OBP grid to determine how much to increase/decrease a player’s rankings. I’d say $1 is about equal to 12 spots in the rankings.

  5. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    a) nice list
    b) noticed that you have fielder above votto … have you finally come to your senses , or is that
    just every other year ?
    c)

  6. Jordan73 says:
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    Good job, Grey. Really like the way the table’s laid out, it’ll be a valuable asset at the draft table.

    Now, if you don’t mind, I’d like to see your opinion on my keepers. H2H Auction League, one C, 4 OF (LF, CF, RF, OF), and we can keep 5. My team was stacked with hitting last year (especially in OF), so I’m vexed. My choices are Braun, Kemp, McCutchen, J. Upton, Longoria, Tulo, Posey, Pedroia, and Goldschmidt.

    I now I want to keep Braun and McCutchen for sure, but that’s about it. Thoughts?

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Jordan73:

      those two plus longoria and pedroia
      and your choice of kemp / j-up

      • Jordan73 says:
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        @costaricanchata:

        I’m hesitant to keep 3 OFs, but that is where my best hitters happen to be. Kinda leaning toward Longoria, Upton, and Goldschmidt (he’ll be the best 1B available by far) as my other three, but I do love me some Sparky Anklebiter, and catchers tend to go for high dollar at our drafts, even the crappy ones, so I have to consider Posey.

    • Jay29 says:
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      @Jordan73: I’d go with Kemp, Longoria, and Posey. With a position-specific outfield, power-hitting CFs have got to be pretty damn valuable. Keeping Kemp away from the other teams is just as important as having him on yours and ready to fill in should McCutchen go down. Or maybe you could trade Kemp or McCutchen for Votto/Prince/Pujols/Cano, pre- or post-draft?

      You really can’t go wrong with any two of J-Up, Longo, Tulo, and Posey, as they’re all 2nd-round talent filling positions of need. I’d lean away from J-Up so that you can still get a sleeper OF in the draft, and solidify your infield with two of the three of C, SS, and 3B.

      I’d avoid Pedroia as he’s a cut below these guys because of his tendency to get injured. 1B is deep so even if Goldy is the best available after keepers, there’s probably only a couple teams that need 1B so you could get a steal on a guy like Hosmer, Ike, Rizzo, etc.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jordan73: Insane keepers you have… Braun, Kemp, McCutchen, Longoria, Posey… You should have plenty of money to stack the other positions…

  7. Hankg says:
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    Greay, great rankings as always. I have a quick keeper question.

    I’m in a 12-team 6×6 OPS/Holds league that permits 5 keepers. Each keeper is designated a draft round. I’m definitely planning on keeping M. Cabrera (1st) and A. Jones (6th). For my other three keepers, I’m looking at the following:

    A.Rios (13th)
    A.Cabrera (18th)
    Y. Molina (21st)
    J. Peavy (23rd)
    J. Altuve (25th)
    K. Medlen (25th)

    Who would you suggest keeping? Thank you.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hankg: Thanks! Medlen, Altuve, Asdrubal…

  8. stynyr says:
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    Grey,

    I have compiled a spreadsheet of all of the rankings. If you or any other commenter would like, I can send it to you for mass distribution. Let me know where I should send.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @stynyr: You can ping us at info [at] razzball.com Thanks!

  9. stynyr says:
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    P.S. – It only goes to the top 100 and then all of the positions.

  10. Cody Jorge says:
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    Awesome format this year and love that they go to 401. Shouldn’t there be a Razzball glossary word for your rankings’ Mr. Irrelevant equivalent?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cody Jorge: Ha! What, so my top 20’s go to 40 and top 100’s go to 115 and top 400 goes to 401….

      • Cody Jorge says:
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        @Grey: Haha. No, I just mean that whoever is ranked 401 in a given year gets a special moniker for the whole season. This year, Tony Campagna is bringing up the rear. So, all season he could be called… The Kaboose?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, oh! Gotcha… Yeah, and when he steals… The Caboose is loose!

          • Cody Jorge says:
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            @Grey: Ha. Perfect. And in future years if the Caboose is Billy Butler shaped, there can be references to The Cabooses caboose, etc. Success.

            • Grey

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              What if Campana is traded to Butler and is batting behind Butler and gets stuck on the basepaths behind him… Caboose is bringing up the rear…of the caboose’s rear…

              • Cody Jorge says:
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                @Grey: And it all started with a double by Caboustakas!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Ha, nice!

  11. Tom says:
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    Do you feel like you would reach for harvey? His ADP is 186 and you have him at 217

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Tom:

      ” You taking someone at 185 is more or less the same as someone else taking someone at 235.”

  12. MattTruss223 says:
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    FYI – It looks like you missed Fernando Rodney’s strikeout projections, so the table has him down for 32 Ks and 0 saves instead of # of Ks and 32 Saves. Table looks sweet by the way, I’m still creating my spreadsheet though, it’s a comfort thing.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @MattTruss223: Hmm… Must be a typo somewhere… Will fix… Thanks!

  13. Jeff says:
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    Excellent work, per usual, Grey. Any chance of gearing these towards a standard points league? cheers

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jeff: Thanks! We’ll have some Points Leagues posts coming up…

  14. MattTruss223 says:
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    Also, I’ve been reading about how Fredidiot is planning to have Andrelton lead off. His projected lineup is:

    Simmons / Heyward / J-up / Felatio / McCann / Freeman / Uggla / 3B de jour / P

    Not sure I’d hit BJ 4th, but whatever. Simmons at lead off….yes please. He’s this year’s Cozart for me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @MattTruss223: Yeah, could be, but I’d take all potential lineups with a grain of salt at this point…

  15. Jon says:
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    Do you like Frazier more as a DH/bench guy or Anderson as a #4 starter? Both are $3.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Frazier

  16. Davy says:
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    Great list. I’m in an 11 team keeper league where we keep 5. Std scoring but Ks hurt batters and SBs really help (duh). Anyhoo I’m keeping Trout, Cargo, Longoria and J Uptom for sure. For my 5th keeper I am deciding b/w Posey, Madbum, Sale, Aroldis and Kimbrel in that order. Any help appreciated.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Davy: Posey

  17. Ryan Vogelsong –
    Matt Garza –
    Matt Harrison –

    need to keep 2 of 3 players here Grey

  18. Grilled Cheese Please says:
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    Can’t say I agree with the Darvish predictions but I’ve been known to be wrong once or twice. Like every Japanese pitcher, the league will catch up and he’ll get hammered.

  19. Poe says:
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    Nitpicking here fo show, but….

    112 Jon Niese NYN SP SP 13 8 0 3.39 1.14 164
    113 Brandon Morrow TOR SP SP 16 7 0 3.20 1.14 205

    All numbers seem to favor Morrow but Niese is ranked ahead.

    Any reason why??

    • Jr says:
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      @Poe: Morrow gets hurt a lot…

  20. Craig says:
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    Grey,

    10 Team, H-2-H Keeper League, with 9 keepers. Looking for advice, particularly on whether to keep Aram and Lawrie, Andrus and Lawrie, or perhaps all 3 and 2 pitchers, or something else if you see something better (thinking I could punt SS). Thanks in advance.

    1. Andrew McCutchen
    2. Prince Fielder
    3. Robinson Cano
    4. Matt Holliday
    5. Max Scherzer
    6. Gio Gonzalez

    Who should I keep (3 more)?
    -Aramis Ramirez
    -Elvis Andrus
    -Brett Lawrie
    -R.A. Dickey
    -Jake Peavy

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Craig: Dickey, Lawrie, Andrus…

  21. Lil'Saucy says:
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    Hi Grey,

    Was wondering if you or someone else converts your rankings to dollar values for auctions. I seem to remember something of the sort happening last year. As always you continue to be miles ahead of any other fantasy expert.

    Best,
    LS

  22. Mr. Grey: Thanks Razzman….

    Ghee, what can I say!!! You and your web page have changed my life…. Far beyond Fantasy BB too…

    I’ve all but given up porn now – reading this website instead now…. I may never go back… Well, maybe just a quick peek every now and then…

    You’ll be proud to know, I have yours and Rudy’s (the true brains of the outfit) pictures up as my screen saver now.. That is respect and kink rolled into one..

    What’s up next, Big Boy???

    Your loyal reader, T Moore

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @t moore: No problem! We’re signing up for our commenter leagues on Monday, you should join… Then the War Room, hopefully, on Tuesday…

  23. KB says:
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    H2H Points League Question – Need to Keep 3 of the Following:

    Player/2012 Points
    Jose Bautista (301 points)
    Carlos Gonzalez (405 points)
    Evan Longoria (200 points)
    Adam Jones (443 points)
    Billy Butler (425 points)
    RA Dickey (563 points)
    Kris Medlen (423 points)
    Madison Bumgarner (382 points)

    Nothing too crazy about the scoring. Hitters -1 point for a strike out. Pitchers get points for QS, CG, Shutout. Seems like most of these guys have a ton of potential and a ton of risk.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @KB: CarGo, Longo, Jones…

  24. Fungazi says:
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    Ben Revere projected at 1 homer? Is that an inside the park?

  25. Schwab says:
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    Does anyone know of a site that allows you to set a maximum number of starts per week for your starting pitcherss? Yahoo does not.

  26. Hats for Bats says:
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    Grey – I want 400 more blurbs dammit!

  27. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    After looking at this list and the point shares, it got me thinking about how you guys might resolve debates over players during various drafts. Do you alternate choices? How do you compromise? If Choo is available in the fifth round and Grey’s chomping at the bit to take him, do you make him promise to shave his mustache, Rudy? If Rudy pulls the trigger on Sabathia instead, do you prank call his babysitter and promise a $10/hr raise, Grey? It would make for an interesting listen on the podcast…

    • We tend to take an average of our feelings about a player. If I’m indifferent between two players and Grey really likes one, we go with the former.

      Sometimes it’s just one person saying that “I think we can get him later” that helps. I think there were several rounds per draft last year where Grey would chirp “Anibal!”

      • Big Magoo

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        @Rudy Gamble: Gotcha. I’d just like to be a fly on the wall when you’re on the clock in the sixth round and Grey yells “Sandoval!” as you’re exclaiming “Altuve!” and nobody wants to give an inch :)

        • Grey

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          Altuve in the 6th? That’s crazy talk…

          • Big Magoo

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            @Grey: See what I mean? It would be a fun soundbite… Altuve – PS #46, Grey #109; Sandoval – PS #79, Grey #43… Let the games begin!

          • I’ve actually got Altuve as #5 right now at 2B – http://razzball.com/playerrater-preseason-espnmlb12/ – just above Kinsler…although that’s driven by playing time differences as I think Profar or injuries might lead to Kinsler sitting a bit more this year (700 PAs vs. 600 PAs). (But i’d draft kinsler first of course).

            The next couple are Kipnis, Hill, Hendrick, Weeks, Murphy, and Uggla.

            The biggest thing that Altuve has going for him is that 2B is a ghost town for SBs these days. Altuve is the only 2B right now where I’d take the Over on a 20 SB over/under. Getting an SB advantage at one position means you don’t have to gamble on SAGNOF guys at other positions.

            So a 6th round pick of Altuve is justified…I just don’t think we’ll be drafting him there on any of our teams. Would rather take a gamble on cheap MI SBs like Segura. (worked out well last year with Altuve…opposite of well with Bill Cosby’s favorite 2B – jaMILE!)

            • Big Magoo

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              @Rudy Gamble: I hear what you’re saying. I just used the Altuve/Sandoval example due to the differences in your respective rankings and the fact that they’ll probably end up pretty close to each other in terms of ADP… Also, I have Altuve at #8 in my 2B rankings and Sandoval at #9 in my 3B rankings, with a tier dropoff after each at their positions. If you guys viewed them similarly, I thought it would make for a spirited debate…

        • Ha…I can’t speak for Grey but some of my ardor is softened by the fact that: 1) we’re in a lot of leagues and 2) the more total players we have across our teams, the more representative our daily roundups are.

          • Big Magoo

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            @Rudy Gamble: It’s different when you’re in the heat of the moment though (perhaps it’s you’re most important/competitive league too). Get ready to rumble!

  28. ShidestheLimit says:
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    So Wil Myers is Catcher eligible in Yahoo leagues. How does he project as a fantasy catcher this year?

  29. Jon says:
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    What do you think of swapping Medlen/AGon for Harvey/Goldschmidt in a keeper league?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Sounds fair… Bit risky…

      • Jon says:
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        @Grey: yeah it’s risky but I like getting both younger and potentially better. I’m hoping to get a 1st-rd pick out of it, too, which would definitely swing the needle IMO.

  30. Scott says:
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    12 team 7×7 league with 2B’s and holds. Can keep 4 keepers in 1 round ahead of last years draft. Kimbrel(8th) Dickey(21)middlebrooks (22) Sal Perez (22) Hosmer (21) T. Frazier (22) There are 48 players kept, so I like Kimbrel in 8th, 95th pick, trying to decide on next 3, leaning towards Hosmer,Middlebrooks, Sal perez, but dickey too hard to pass up, what you think?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Dickey, Hosmer, Middlebrooks…

  31. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    I know have asked you before, but i’m still on the fence. Auction keeper ESPN format, cats are standard plus a few others thrown in. I plan on keeping Rizzo and frazier at $4 each. My last choice is either Altuve ($4) Machado ($4) Marte ($4) or Wright ($27)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      How big is the league?

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: 12 team, I think he does K’s for hitters too, i don’t like it but I’m not commish

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          There’s a corner spot for Machado?

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: yes, its standard ESPN, I think only 1 utility though. I’ve only played ESPN one season so its all new to me.

            • Grey

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              Kinda sucks that your best keepers are all at the corners, could see going with Marte or Altuve, Machado should be special soon and that’s nice to have in a keeper…

              • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                @Grey: I might have to make me a special Altuve vs. Machado contest. Something with a game show feel. I am 60% Macho Man and 40% All to Hell in Ho Town. My gut says go Macho Man and forget about it. I honestly think because of upside, I would have to pay more for macho man on draft day….I think I just answered my own question. Thank you Sigrey Freud.

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: i have read the sleeper post. it just created a few problems for me: Part 1, it kept me up all night giddy like a kid before christmas or a gambler betting on the sure thing at 20 to 1, Part II ” the post strikes back” after the high of the post, then came the come down called doubt which led to anxiety. Part III “Return of the High” I found my secret stash called my wise gut and he reminded me to never doubt his awesomeness. So now I am here sounding like you and now I know I have my good crazy going and ready to start drafting. Let my 6 month journey of self doubt and fake arrogance begin!

                    • Grey

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                      Great line — “Let my 6 month journey of self doubt and fake arrogance begin!” HA!

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: with compliments like that I might get some real arrogance going through my brain. Please insert your Jewish side and tear me back down with guilt and manipulation. Oy Vey!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha… Why don’t you call your mother more?

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: because the first thing out of her mouth will be why I never call and then the second thing will be to compare me to all the more successful kids i grew up with/ her friends kids

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You know, Tommy’s mom told me he bought his second Cinnabon franchise… Why don’t you call him? He might need some help with all of those Cinnabons.

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: yeah, well tommy is gay and he ain’t ever going to make his mom a bubbe, so how you like me now!

                    • Grey

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                      Oh. Tommy did always have the best manners.

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: I hate you

  32. Johnson says:
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    12 team mixed keeper – C/1B/2B/3B/SS/3x OF/Util. 1450 Innings.

    Wil Myers is C eligible in Yahoo. How much additional value does this give him?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I can’t imagine he’ll stay eligible… It’s a snafu that I’d hope they’d fix… If they don’t… He’s starting the year in the minors and is still only a late round flyer in redraft leagues…

      • Johnson says:
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        @Grey:
        I hope not…he’s my keeper.

  33. Todd25 says:
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    Grey, i think you are really going to like the teams you come out of the gate with in yahoo due to their rankings. understandably things will shift as we get closer to april, but here’s a snapshot of what i came away with using this list (and your philosophy) as my guide from the 8 spot in a 10-team:

    C – V.Mart
    IB – Prince Fielder
    2B – Brandon Philips
    SS – Josh Rutlege
    3B – Pablo Sando
    OF – Giancarlo Stanton, Adam Jones, ShinSoo Choo
    Util – Willingham
    BN – Norichika Aoki, Todd Frazier
    SP – Zack Greinke, Max Scherzer, Matt Moore, Matt Harvey,
    Marco Estrada, Mike Fiers, Hyun-jin Ryu
    RP – J.J. Putz, C. Perez, C. Janssen, Jon. Broxton, Carlos Marmol

    This season looks pretty tasty so far.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That team does look pretty amazeballs, but most teams in a 10 team league will look excellent…

      • Todd25 says:
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        @Grey: True, but i think ended up better than a majority. a couple of things of note with yahoo rankings, McCutch #8, AuShizz #47, Pablo #65, B-Phil #67, Choo #88, Matt Moore #81, Scherzer #85, J-Zimm #87

        all guys wayyy lower than you have them, ripe for the taking.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, no denying those guys are much lower and should be around for the taking…

  34. Biff Malibu says:
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    Let’s discuss Mr. Brett Anderson. You’re obviously not high on him at all despite that he returned to form at the end of last year to not lose a game, come back from major surgery and is still only 24 years old. I’m not sold on his win totals like others. This puts him in line w/ say a Matt Garza. Yet, you still have Garza nearly one hundered spots higher. Are you forecasting an injury w/ many missed starts or are you labeling him as untrustworthy?? Just trying to figure your ranking him so low out.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Brett Anderson has never had one full solid season, unless I’m overlooking it…

  35. xtremehulk says:
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    Awesome rankings as usual. I notice a lot of rap references in your rankings and appreciate the Schoolboy Q recommendation. Lucky for me he is coming to Sasquatch at the Gorge up here in WA this summer. I have a recommendation for your now: Big Krit – Krit Wuz Here. You may have already heard it, but if ya dont know, now ya know …….

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! And thanks for the recommendation, will check him out…

  36. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    are we finished with the marriage jokes yet ?
    am sure that you’ve seen this countless times ,
    but still good for a few chuckles , to this day .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PypsMk_0QxY

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oldie but goodie… Weird how he’s reading from a newspaper…Member those?

  37. Grey's Mother says:
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    You’re a fine one to talk, young man.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Grey’s Mother: Mother, please, you’re embarrassing me…

      • Grey's Father says:
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        @Grey: Don’t talk back to your mother, son.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          She started it!

          • Grey's Father says:
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            @Grey: I raised you better than that. Now go down to the corner market and get me a 6-pack of Bud for me like you used to do when you were 6…and be quick about it!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I thought you wanted the tall boys?

              • Grey's Father says:
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                @Grey: In my old age, I’ve learned how to enjoy things a bit more and scale back a bit. Now instead of slamming 6 of those in a row, I buy a 6 pack for now and then drink a 6 pack later. It’s really helped with the afternoon shakes.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I hope to one day be as wise as you, father.

                  • Grey's Father says:
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                    @Grey: You’re wise beyond your lip whiskers, son, and don’t let anyone ever tell you different. Just know that you’re a shining example of how a broken condom behind a 7-11 can turn into something great.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Mom told me it was a WaWa… Are you sure you’re my father?

                    • Grey's Father says:
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                      @Grey: Well shit, I just drunkenly stumbled into an internet cafe and saw the mustache and assumed you were one of them. Well, there goes any chance at sleeping it off on your couch.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I got a Lazy Boy for anyone claiming to be my father… It’s booked solid until June though…

                    • Grey's Father says:
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                      @Grey: Welp, I guess it’s back to covering myself in used tires at the Les Schwab for now. See you in June and keep a cold one in the fridge for me!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I hope you don’t get gangrene! (Again.)

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Grey’s Mother:

      this post has evoked a memory .

      back when i was a kid , a major “put down” was … your mother wears combat boots .

      however , it paled in comparison to “battle-axe” .
      that one would get your mouth washed out with soap , if someone squealed on you .

  38. Spaceman

    Spaceman says:
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    Grey sir, Stellar/intelligent/accessible reference lists as always! For 4 years now, I never bother looking at any other rankings. As I always say, it’s much appreciated man.
    I read daily, but my questions are scarce. I write when I need a wise 2nd opinion!

    That said, I have 2. 16 teamer, 6 keepers. My keepers are; Fielder, Stanton, Longoria, Greinke, Latos, Scherzer. I’ve been offered Jennings for Scherzer straight up. It’s fair, but as a diehard Tigers fan and in a league that values pitching, I’m apprehensive. So I wanted to hear your thoughts. Also, I have the pick #12 in RD 1. Choo, Jackson, Gordon , Vmart are options I’m considering drafting 1st. What say you? Thanks a ton friend! Spaceman

    PS. Are you cats looking for writers?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d go with Jennings with your keepers, it’s close enough to go with the guy you want if you really want Scherzer… It is fair though… Take Choo… You need OFs, which has me leaning towards Jennings… Sure, we could use writers, email me at grey {at} razzball.com

  39. Spaceman

    Spaceman says:
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    If you say Jennings over Mad Max (however close), I’ll pull the trigger. Then do I still draft Choo in RD 1? You’re right, I need OFs. I’d say Jennings/Choo/Stanton should do the trick. Along with Fielder/Longoria/Greinke/Latos, I like those 7. Thanks for advice sir! Stay cool as always man,

    Spaceman

  40. Milarky says:
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    Need to keep 2 of the following pitchers: Greinke, Sabathia, Wainwright, Latos, Shields. I’ve read all your posts so I know your recommendations – any scenarios where you wouldn’t keep Greinke and Wainwright? CC has been good to me so it feels unnatural to let him go.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope, I’d go with those two…

  41. Tom says:
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    No love for eric young jr?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Where’s he playing?

      • Tom says:
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        @Grey: 2B / OF Rockies – speed and power

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I know what team he’s on, just don’t see him playing as he hasn’t for the last 4 years…

  42. DiRo says:
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    In a keeper league with 7 years left, this guy was trying to get Trout and/or Dylan Bundy off me for King Felix, but I couldn’t do that in this keeper league! Now he proposed to me King Felix and Elvis Andrus for my Tulowitzki, am I crazy not to take this?

    PS, love the 400 top players, always helps me with my personal rankings.

    • DiRo says:
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      @DiRo: I also forgot to mention my only real keeper worthy pitchers are Sabathia and Bundy, but Bundy might not see the BIGS till June or even late July.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take that for Tulo…

  43. Milarky says:
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    Will do – how about hitters? I get to keep 4 of Cutch, Cano, Longo, Holliday, Bruce and A. Craig. Just go with the rankings, or would you consider keeping Bruce over Holliday? Consistency vs. power upside I guess…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d keep Bruce over Holliday…

      • Milarky says:
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        @Grey: Would you keep Fellatio over either of them?

        • Milarky says:
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          @Milarky: And out of curiousity, why would you keep Bruce over Holliday given their rankings? Just because of age and upside?

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Yes, for those reasons…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nope

  44. Milarky says:
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    Forgot to include BJ Upton in that list to pick 4 from (McCutch, Longo, Cano, Holliday, Bruce, BJ Upton, A. Craig)…

  45. Cole says:
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    In case you needed a laugh, I just read a mock article on cbs where Aushiz went 100th. Its almost cute that that (studerer!) got published.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s insane…

  46. Sea says:
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    2 DL slots in the commentator leagues this year please!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, someone should’ve reminded me of that about a week ago… There’s already leagues signed up…

  47. Travis says:
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    Isn’t there an app for Razzball? Cant find it in the Google store.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      We’re working on it…

      • Milarky says:
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        @Grey: How about on Blackberry World? Show some love for BB10!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Is that like a pager?

  48. Sul says:
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    Espinosa or Medlen in 10 team keeper league?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Espinosa

  49. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    there sure is a lot of role playing going on today

  50. sneedsseedandfeed says:
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    I’m in a keeper league and have both Utley and Espinosa. Is Espinosa really the guy I should keep? I feel so much safer with Utley. We’ve weathered storms together. Sure, he’s been on crutches most of the time, but still.

  51. gareth says:
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    Where is john jaso?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s a platoon catcher, he’s a not worth drafting outside of the deepest of leagues…

  52. Pops Too says:
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    Hi Grey,

    Ortiz ranked 104 at DH with no projections. Yahoo has him 1b eligible.
    Should I move him up in rankings or leave him at 104 and would you draft him ahead of Ike Davis for 1b.
    What Would Grey Do?

    • Grey’s working on projections for Ortiz and Kelly Johnson. Will be in there in next day or two.

      They have him at 1B? He only played 7 games there last year…he did gain 1B eligiblity in season last year as that’s based on 5 games but I think he’ll be DH in Yahoo! in 2013.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, he edges out Davis with 1B eligibility… His projections should be there, will check with Rudy…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: I think in yahoo its 5 games started or 10 played. if he got eligibility last season he carries it over to this year.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I think Yahoo just makes shizz up sometime, like why Wil Myers has catcher eligibility…

          • Myers played C in minors 2 years ago I think. I think when they import a minor leaguer, the give them a position and never update it. If he is at C now, I don’t think they are changing it in 2013.

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            They’re really bad with keeping up with minor positional eligibility in general. Singleton is listed as LF when we all know he’s the designated bong hitter.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @Sky: Ha

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: Ive seen this help people win leagues with these BS position eligibilities. Yahoo and minor leaguers is a train wreck

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Not sure why they can’t hire someone for like $15,000/year to straighten this out… They must have the money…

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey: So does that mean Papi ranks in the 60s now?

                  • Steve says:
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                    @Grey@Grey: So in a Yahoo league that also counts OBP he’s a legit option at 1B, right?

                    Care to take a stab as to where he might rank overall for Yahoo?

                    • Steve says:
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                      @Steve: And a legit option at Util, too, come to that…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I wouldn’t want to clog up my UTIL spot in ESPN with him, but he’s decent… He will make it difficult for you to pick up waiver guys once the season starts…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, he’s solid, in the 60’s for Yahoo…

  53. PopsToo says:
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    I just double checked, already registered in 2 leagues, Ortiz 1b and V-mart is catcher

    • Ok, thanks for the heads-up. Frigin’ Yahoo. I’ll review my assigned Yahoo positions and see if there’s a rhyme behind any differences. I have the games player per position for each player so shouldn’t be hard to change that up. I can’t believe Ortiz gets 1B with only 7 games…

  54. Keith

    Tommy Boy says:
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    Yodle guys. In a H2H keeper league–I got a position scarcity question. I already have Prince and Cabrera anchoring my infield, and Braun-Kemp-Bruce in the field. We keep 12.

    My question: Dude wants Ike Davis and 2 13th rounders and 3 14th rounders for Ad Jones. Those picks are how I’d build my pitching but I’m quite happy to stream my kaboodles off all season.

    In a bubble, would I win this trade? I don’t really have any reason to do it, or not to do it—I just have ADHD and my Tuesday and Thursday poker tournaments are a long 3 days away.

    Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Don’t do it…

  55. Wow. Nice addition. Thanks gentlemen.

  56. MooseKnuckles says:
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    Grey, my swammi. Your site is the best, helped me to 2 straight championships and looking for #3. I am in a 16 team keeper league, h2h points format and I need your prognostication abilities. I have Allen Craig and CC Sabathia as two of my keepers currently. I love Craig, when he plays, and Sabathia is a stud in a points league but I am worried that he is not going to be in the lineup every week like Craig. Can you give me an over under for both guys, Craig at 140 games and CC at 190 innings? If my injury concerns are correct, I am half tempted to try and trade them. In a points format, would you rather have Ike Davis or Allen Craig as a keeper. We assign contracts to guys, Ike has a 4 year deal and Allen has a 2, we also penalize for strikeouts. Thanks, you da man.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Sounds about right for over/under… Maybe Craig at 130… I’d rather have Davis…

  57. Q says:
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    Great work as usual….love your stuff. This is not a fantasy question, just using you as a forum to rant.

    I’m a Rangers fan–is there any reason on God’s brown earth why they wouldn’t trade Andrus for Justin Upton? With Profar just sitting there, waiting to be a better player at a fraction fo the cost? The Rangers outfield is now 2 platoons and a PED china bull and Profar is headed back to the minors. Does this make any sense to anyone else? The D-Backs were just sitting there, looking for a SS. So desperate they were that they traded a top pitching prospect (which, granted, he’s a nutball and they have depth at SP) for a guy that sounds like a Russian monk.

    Brings me to a larger issue: I often feel like even the good GMs are morons and I am a genius. Am I suffering from delusions of grandeur? What qualifies one to be a GM in the first place? Where do these guys come from?

    Gotta go, both my kids just threw up in their cereal.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Totally agree with you, Profar and Upton would’ve made their Opening Day roster better…

  58. Elwood Blues says:
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    Grey, thanks for the projections. NL Only 4×4 12-team keeper roto. I have Gio $17, Latos $19, and Medlen $6.. do I keep those 3 together or do I trade Gio now .. for Frazier $10 and Minor $5.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Trade him for those two…

  59. 2 Giant rings says:
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    Hi Grey, any advice for drafting in a league with the following point system? (20 teams) thanks.

    Runs
    1 Points
    Hits
    1.5 Points
    Triples
    2 Points
    Home Runs
    1 Points
    Runs Batted In
    1 Points
    Stolen Bases
    1 Points
    Walks
    .5 Points
    Ground Into Double Play
    -2 Points
    Wins
    20 Points
    Complete Games
    8 Points
    Shutouts
    8 Points
    Saves
    10 Points
    Walks
    -1 Points
    Strikeouts
    1 Points
    Blown Saves
    -5 Points

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Go heavy on top SPs and RPs and go for speed guys with solid averages…

      • 2 Giant rings says:
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        @Grey:
        Thanks. Totally contrary to the way I like to draft but I will draft catering to the point system. I really appreciate you man.

        • Jack Full of Hate says:
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          @2 Giant rings: someone is smoking some really bad dope, and by bad I mean not good, when they devised this points system

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Right back at cha!

  60. Steve says:
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    Re: Papi and the Util spot, I was referring to him being an option there in Yahoo, with OBP counting. That is, you can put him there now and he won’t clog up the slot.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ah… Yeah, he’d be in the 60’s there…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: Hmmmm. As a Razzballer, I’ve ignored him the last few years, but he could be worth a shot this year.

        Pretty sure I’m going relievers-only in the ol’ H2H and the league is so shallow (1 Util, 3 OFs – LF/CF/RF – and no MI/CI) means that I’m probably going to fill out every hitting slot before starting in on pitchers so there’s a chance to own him this year I think.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          In one UTIL spot league, I don’t see how you can draft Ortiz, you’re gonna handcuff yourself every short schedule day and be (more) miserable…

          • Grey's Mother says:
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            @Grey: Even if it’s a Yahoo league?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Is there more than one UTIL spot in that Yahoo league, Mom?

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey: Your mother sure is a buttinski.

                Nah – just one one Util spot. Assuming it’s open, I’d just shift him to 1st wouldn’t I? Or am i missing something?

                It’s hot here and I’ve been working in the garden so my brain might be overheating…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Oh, where he has 1st eligibility? Yeah, UTIL is fine for him, but be a bit soon to take a UTIL guy though…

                  • Steve says:
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                    @Grey: True, though we do only have 9 offensive slots to fill, if you disregard the bench, so it won’t be that late anyway if I leave a Util guy to last.

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                Your Mom and Steve have the same great taste in footwear.

                • Steve says:
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                  @Sky: It’s just one of he ways we show our feelings for one another.

                  I didn’t realise it when I ordered them, but those sneaks have tongues on them like shin pads…

  61. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    yahoo has a new category called net save + holds, any thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yahoo is gooftarded… I like stats I can get immediately from a box score without an ounce of thinking…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: gooftarded, i like that, I will now use that to refer to my old leaguemates, those friggin gooftardos!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha… Yup…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: yeah the commish of my old league asked my opinion about the new stat but I’m not sold because some holds guys could have a higher value than half the closers and that just feels wrong. He also brought up net steals vs. steals, what about that?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I feel the same way about net steals… If I can’t be told simply, I’m not a huge fan…

              • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                @Grey: so what your saying is to keep it simple stupid?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  That’s what I’m saying, yeah…

  62. Elwood Blues says:
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    Thanks Grey. Here’s a PED issue I am struggling with. NL Only 4×4 12-Team Keeper Roto… 2 Catcher Format. I have Grandal at $5 — I am thinking of keeping him at one of my catcher spots.. and then picking up a replacement after the rosters are filled in the auction. I can live with a backup at C2 for 50 games right? Or do I just dump him?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Eh, I’d dump him…

  63. Steve says:
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    According to Marlins beat reporter via friend-of-Razzball Jason Collette on Twitter, Redmond is leaning towards having Stanton hit third… behind Pierre and Polanco #blech

    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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      @Steve: thats scary when stanton could triple his age and it would be less than combining the two ages ahead of him. I wonder who is going to acquire him via trade in his walk year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, but how much could it get in that lineup?

  64. Jim says:
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    Hi Grey,

    It’s time for me to select my keepers for this year. It’s a 20-team keeper league, we keep 20, and then we have an 8-round draft. We count R. RBI, HR, TB, SB, AVG, OPS, FPCT, W, SV, HLD, SHO, K, ERA, WHIP, and K/BB. I wanted to ask your opinion about my proposed selections for this year:

    Guys I’m likely to keep:
    Justin Upton
    Adam Jones
    Ryan Zimmerman
    Freddie Freeman
    Michael Bourn
    Mike Napoli
    Jonathan Lucroy
    Jed Lowrie
    Trevor Plouffe
    Brandon Belt
    Logan Morrison
    Travis d’Arnaud
    Dee Gordon
    Derek Norris
    Jonathan Singleton
    Francisco Lindor
    Johnny Cueto
    Gerrit Cole
    Tyler Skaggs
    Wily Peralta

    Guys unlikely to make the cut:
    Alex Presley
    Jordany Valdespin
    Drew Smyly
    Luke Gregerson
    Andrew Bailey
    Kyle Kendrick
    Felipe Paulino
    Zach McAllister
    Jorge De La Rosa
    Zach Britton

    What do you think?

    • Jim says:
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      @Jim: While I’m here…

      A fellow manager has expressed interest in a 2-for-1 deal involving d’Arnaud and Singleton. Below are some of the options he has available. Are there any you’d try to target? Any for whom you wouldn’t do the 2-for-1 swap in a keeper league?
      Kris Medlen
      Dylan Bundy
      Curtis Granderson
      Ian Desmond
      Alex Gordon
      Jose Altuve

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        I’d go with Bundy, Gordon, Medlen, Grandy, Altuve or Grandy over them…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d go Kendrick over Norris…

    • Jim says:
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      @Jim: Another question: a second manager has expressed interest in acquiring d’Arnaud and/or Cole. I’m interested in doing a 2-for-1 swap. Here are some of the guys he’s got. Any suggestions about ones to target or ones to avoid?
      Brandon Phillips
      Ben Zobrist
      Anthony Rizzo
      Jurickson Profar
      Zack Greinke
      Adam Wainwright
      Yovani Gallardo

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Should be clear from my rankings, no?

        • Jim says:
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          @Grey: Well, I know how you value guys for this year, but this is a keeper league, so I guess I’m wondering if that changes the equation. I’m also really clumsy with evaluating 2-for-1 swaps (though I like to try doing them, since I like opening roster space).

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Gotcha… I’d trade them for Greinke or Rizzo…

        • Jim says:
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          @Grey: Thanks, I appreciate it!

  65. beardcrabs says:
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    yo grey, sorry if this was already brought up but Yahoo! leagues can be viewed by the public now if you wanted to switch over the RCL’s… I hate ESPN…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, heard, but we’re going with ESPN…

      • beardcrabs says:
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        @Grey: for sure…

  66. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    Back to our keeper conversation, i am inteding on keeping Rizzo, Frazier, and Machado. Altuve was the one on the fence for me. I just realized that K’s for hitters is a cat, should my keepers remain the same knowing that? or should I swap machado out for altuve?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d go with Machado… Altuve isn’t a game changing bat, Machado could be…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: Im locked in now for those keepers, no more about this, i can now sleep well on my brand new over sized pillows. I keep those for the season for all the night tears I will be shedding for the upcoming season.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Don’t get suede pillow cases, I learned that the hard way…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: note taken. Last year I had to break out the waterproof pillow after drafting Gonzo, J Upton, Kendrick, Lewis, Lubeke…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, ouch…

  67. Milarky says:
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    We get to keep 3 prospects for a few years after we take them. Who do you think is more valuable heading into the season out of Skaggs, Milone, Singleton, and Soler? We also have to start one rookie hitter and pitcher. Skaggs is my no-brainer – beyond that, I could keep Milone for this year only as a regular starter, Singleton as a rookie (after 50 games), or wait on Soler to mature for next year and hope for big things.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Skaggs, Milone, and Singleton….

  68. Steve says:
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    I hope you’re planning your New Zealand honeymoon.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      We’re thinking (I’m thinking) Tokyo…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: Nice! You been before?

        I went about 30 years ago, and it was awesome then – can only imagine what it’s like now.

        • Grey

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          I’ve never been to any continent outside of US besides Europe… Top 3 places I want to go is Japan, Australia and Egypt… So if Cougs is fine with it, I’m aiming for Japan… She seemed open to it when I pitched her…

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            @Grey: Australia? Australia? You can go to Australia on your way home from New Zealand.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              That’s what I’m talking about! Actually by saying Australia, I meant NZ too…

          • Grey loves sushi and wearing kimonos. of course Japan is his first choice

  69. JP says:
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    Just discovered the site a few weeks ago, and love it. Great work! Would your ranking of the following SP change for a keeper league (H2H 6×6 with QS): Niese, Minor, Fister, Miley, Hughes? Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks for the kind words! Nah, they wouldn’t…

  70. Rich says:
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    5×5 12 team head to head (w, sa, holds, era, whip-ba, hr, rbi, sb, ops) 3 keepers allowed. Trout & Cargo are locked but I’m in a quandry about the 3rd. Candidates are Goldschmidt, Alan Craig, Kipnis, R. Zimmerman, Ethier, Ellsbury, Gio, Cueto, Latos & Morrow.
    Thanks

    • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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      @Rich: Go with Goldschmidt.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Goldschmidt

      • Rich says:
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        The vast majority of my draft is data driven (WITHOUT DATA IT IS AN OPINION) but every once in a while a player intrigues me even if his numbers don’t. This year I have 3 players that I am feeling will perform much better than expected & I am wondering if I am losing touch with reality. Brett Lawry, Kipnis & Morrow. Thanks again

  71. Steve says:
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    Hmmmm. Probably nothing, but some chatter about that the physical that Felix took as part of his extension negotiations revealed some issues with his elbow…

  72. Steve says:
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    Oh, and you need another caboose. Campana just got DFA’d…

    • Saw that today. Marlins should sign him and play him instead of John Peter.

      • Steve says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: Would love to see him running on a battery of Tall Chris Young and Jason Varitek.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Aw, poor Tony… No one appreciates SAGNOF!

  73. paul says:
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    your top 400 suggests if i divide by 12 for a 12 team league….you place the same round value for pablo sandavol and jimmy rollins as you would clayton kershaw, felix hernandez, and zack greinke….shoot i love your site but where can i find a true round by round 5×5 value for each player ?

    • Those pitchers are ranked as mid-4th round pitchers – maybe a little low for kershaw but not completely bonkers.

      You can check out the $ value rankings in the Player Rater – maybe those better fit your drafting ethos.

  74. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    I went over the bottom 300 ( hitters only) and find players I like to either exceed or at least have some good streak ability going for them. These might be my “its your last pick or two in the draft, so why not? cause you will most likely drop them in the first week or two with no fear of them getting picked up by someone else, guys”

    Lo Mo – is at that make or break point, he could stay healthy and hit 30 or 40 points higher than projected. teams like the Marlins and Astros have a lot to prove and with no high priced veterans getting in the way, could be interesting to watch how these teams handle what mangement have done to them.

    The Mets Trio of Murphy, Duda, and Newhenwhatever. One of these guys will be relevant for at least 3 months this year and maybe more. Newie was looking real good before that freak injury last year. Duda has some serious power potential and a scary look in his yahoo profile pic.

    Ruggiano is in the LoMo boat as it relates to the Marlins. If he could put some streaks together he could easily take that step to being your fourth outfielder or be a part of a platoon with my favorite platooner Garrett Jones.

    lastly, there was no mention of Matt Dominguez. I know he plays for Houston and his sample size is small. But if you take his Houston sample out over 600 AB’s he is roughly at 80-25-85-.280 give or take.(i didn’t do actual math for this but rounded in my head). These types of number would be a nice back-up on your bench in shallow or yahoo style leagues or filling in at your Corner spot in E$PN. Last year he was getting an XBH every 3.4 hits which puts him in position to either knock in a run, to score a run or hit a homer. Point is he could be relevant this year and break into the top 15 at 3rd next January. He was a 1st rounder in “07 out of high school and is only 23. So i say grab him with your last pick and lets wait and see… at least 2 1/2 weeks into the year.

    • Grey

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      Ruggiano is a journeyman who happened to have a nice year last year, there’s no way anyone’s drafting Dominguez in a 12-14 team mixed league, LoMo could suprise; he needs healthy legs…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: Oh i am, to prove my point, so if i’m right then I look genius and if not then I look like everyone else. he was a good add last August before he got hurt

      • sprinkling a little ruggiano goes a long way.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh, and the Mets could have some surprises in the outfield, hopefully Cowgill is one of them…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: the Duda will be the man

  75. Steve says:
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    Damn H2H league. Swear I’m going to quit at the end of every season. Of course I just signed up for it again.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Isn’t that your oldest league?

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, since ’03. Time I won the damn thing again.

        • Grey

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          We’re gonna get it for you again this year!

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey: Care to weigh in on the relievers-only strategy for the ol’ H2H? 12 teams, 5×5 + OBP and Holds. No CI/MI, 1 Util spot and LF/CF/RF.

            My thinking is to draft a strong hitting team and then hoover up Closers and setup men, with a view to winning most hitting cats each week, along with Saves, Holds, ERA and WHIP. It helps that we have a 9 IP minimum, which gives me the potential opportunity to bench my pitchers if I’m looking good after hitting the minimum.

            If a reliever blows out, (or in any other appropriate situation), I’ll hit the stream button, though we have a 10 add maximum each week.

            Theoretically it’s pretty sound I think (and appeals as a fun way to play), but it did occur to me that the shallowness of the league might mean that my hitting might not be decisively better than someone who only lightly drafts SPs through the first 10 rounds or so.

            Whaddayathink?

            • Grey

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              I think it makes sense, worth trying at least…

  76. donkeycorner says:
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    Thanks for the great advice, Grey. We placed second last year after your and Rudy’s help (after a guy who convinced two other owners to trade their #1 picks mid season include M. Cabrerra….) We are in the CBS 5×5 12 teamer so we’ll take the 85 points we finished with every year for the next ten years! Great work.

    • Grey

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      No problem, hopefully get you the win this year…

  77. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    come on, can’t you show any love for Dominguez, I got three daquiris, sandwiches at the oinkster and my 1982 Steve Balboni card says he outperforms Chisenhall, Polanco, and Scutaro

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s a pretty big bet there for a 12-homer Astro…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: 18

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          14 is pushing it…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          But I will take the under on 18 if that’s where you want to place the bet…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: 15

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              You just said 18…

              • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                @Grey: sorry, i got into this pawn stars moment, felt like i was negotiating the price. yeah, why not 17. Its contagous

                • Grey

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                  17 seems fair…

  78. noahdad says:
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    So would you trade Craig (10$) for Cargo (25$)?? Silly question? Of course??

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I would…

  79. royce! says:
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    Broke the screen of my iphone 4 yesterday and thought I had it totally fixed with some clear packing tape, but then came here and discovered that I could not read the comments though the tape’s rainbow effect.

    Long story short, I have a new phone now.

    • Steve says:
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      @royce!: Hurled to the ground in frustration at the Padres’ off-season?

      • royce! says:
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        @Steve: har har har, hilarious. Yeah, I thought the phone must’ve already been broken because its wasn’t reporting all the big signings and trades I expected them to make…actually, I just dropped it one too many times. It can be so hard to pry it out of my hipster jeans…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Damn right you better!

    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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      @royce!: but is it another I phone, i know they break easily

  80. Adam says:
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    Didn’t think this was appropriate in the RCL signups post…

    Which side(s) would you prefer in a 3 yr keeper, 6×6 (OBP & QS):

    Giancarlo and Asdrubal for Tulo and Goldschmidt?

    Giancarlo for Tulo and Niese might also be on the table…

  81. Johnson says:
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    5×5 roto 12 team mixed keeper – C/1B/2B/3B/SS/3x OF/Util. 1450 Innings.

    Keep 5 players to be slotted in rounds 1-5. Other players can be kept at a 3 rd penalty from where they were drafted/kept from the year prior.

    I’m keeping, Braun, Kemp, Tulo, Zobrist, Craig, Wil Myers, Simmons, Headley, Bumgarner, Anibal, Moore, Brett Anderson, Samardjiza, Wilhelmsen.

    I can trade Wil Myers and Simmons who can be kept as late as the 22nd and 21st round for the first pick in the 6th rd (first player to be drafted). One of BJ Upton, Wainwright and Scherzer will be available for sure. Do I deal to get the 2 prospects for a player that will help me this year?

  82. Project Merkin says:
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    @Grey Thanks for the rankings! Well done as usual.

    Would you rather keep Scherzer in the 14th round, or Medlen in the 24th round?

    Getting Medlen that late mitigates the risk of regression a bit, but Scherzer in the 14th is good value as well. Please help!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Scherzer… Both are good great values though, obviously…

      • Project Merkin says:
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        @Grey: Kewl thanks. One more thing to axe you:

        Austin Jackson in the 24th or Medlen in the 24th? My other keeper is Verlander in the 7th, so I kind of want to keep a bat, but I’ll have my first 6 rounds to take care of that…

        • Grey

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          Sure, go Jackson…

  83. tvac says:
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    Grey: I have to keep 5 in a 6×6 league (obp and ip plus traditional 5×5).

    Here are my options and their price ($260 cap)
    Fielder $38
    Stanton $28
    Napoli $16
    Jennings $15
    R. Weeks $10
    Lester $8
    Olt $6
    Fowler $6
    Myers $6
    Holland $5 (we counts holds and saves as one cat)

    I know Fielder is a little pricey but I think him and Stanton give me a good core. The rest of my guys arent anything special at their prices so Im leaning towards keeping Jennings, Weeks and Lester. Thoughts???

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Fielder, Stanton, Jennings, Lester, Myers…

  84. Q says:
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    Are you using the same plate appearance/IP numbers as Rudy/Steamer are using? Unless noted in the blurb? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m not…

  85. Phillip says:
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    Dearest Grey,

    It’s with great confusion that I write to you today in hopes of a speedy reply. No, I didn’t lose my wallet in a foreign land and need you to send me $1,800 US (but you can if you’d like). I digress.

    It’s keeper time and I’m having a hard time deciding between Matt Kemp and Adam Jones. Seemed like a no-brainer to go with Kemp, now I’m not so sure given his shoulder still being a bit bum.

    WWGreyD? Much obliged.

  86. Tony says:
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    Hi all, in a competivie 12 team roto R/HR/RBI/SB/K/AVG/OPS – W/L/SV/K/HLD/ERA/WHIP keeper league. Which 5 of the following would you keep? I also have 1st overall pick of unkept players…
    Jay Bruce – 3rd round
    Gio Gonzalez – 7th round
    Johnny Cueto – 14th round
    Aaron Hill – 15th round
    Arodis Chapman – 17th round
    Jonathan Broxton – 20th round
    Brett Lawrie – 22nd round
    Wilin Rosario – 24th round
    Todd Frazier – 24th round

    • Grey

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      Gio Gonzalez – 7th round
      Johnny Cueto – 14th round
      Arodis Chapman – 17th round
      Brett Lawrie – 22nd round
      Todd Frazier – 24th round

  87. Fenst says:
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    Just a quick question. How come Niese is ranked higher than Morrow while Morrow has better projections in every category? I’m confused by that.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Morrow has injury concerns…

  88. I was offered Butler for Craig? Craig is 10 dollars. Butler is 20. Thoughts? Thx.

    • Grey

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      Eh, I’d hold…

  89. James Fletcher says:
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    First time here, looked over the top 400….awsome list….My dilema is I play in a 9 team AL only 5×5 roto(normal stats)….I was woundering if you could compile a top 300 or so AL only players like the top 400 you guys have listed…I would totally appreciate it.
    2nd question….We keep 4 players each year and my top 5 players are….
    miggy
    a.jones
    granderson
    v-mart(catcher eligable, and we play 2 catchers)
    rios
    I am going into the draft with alot of power, what would be your stratagy for the first 4 rounds….I was thinking of taking 2 aces with first 2(sherzer,sale,morrow,peavy,shields), then try to get 2 speedy MI with my next 2(escobar, altuve, aybar)…..does this sound like a winning formula ?….I’m just asking cause the last 2 years I have really screwed up my first 3 picks in a big way…..Any input u have and any AL only rankings and projections would be awsome….thanks…..james

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        @Grey:
        Not sure altuve will be there in the 3rd round…all teams keep 4 so esentally were starting in round 5….maybe a escobar or aybar?, then the best avaialble bat huh?

        • Grey

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          Yeah, one MI and then best bat available…

    • James Fletcher says:
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      @James Fletcher:
      sorry forgot to tell you it’s a big money league…each team pays $250.00 to play and i like winning.

  90. So I was offered Butler ($20) and A Escobar ($3) for Craig (10) Escobar would be my MI (also have Rollins). Thoughts? Escobar would likely supplant Vogelsong (1 dollar) as my last keeper. 14 player league. Thx.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t love it…

  91. James Fletcher says:
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    Keeper question….AL only 9 teams 5×5 standard roto
    miggy
    grandy
    jones
    vmart(catcher)
    rios
    Can keep 4…thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy, Jones, Grandy, V-Mart…

  92. JP says:
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    Giancarlo is ranked 64th on ESPN. Any idea why they have them so low. I understand that some people are low on him because of what happened in Miami, but 64, really? His ADP is in the teens.

  93. enolazna says:
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    Keeper league and in a tough predicament – can only keep four. 12 team competitive league with R/HR/RBI/SB/BB/AVG/SLG and W/CG/SV/K/ERA/WHIP/KtoBB.

    Bautista in 10th
    Kemp in 4th
    Bumgarner in 14th
    Fowler in 18th
    Rios in 15th
    Asd Cabrera in 21st

    Any input would be awesome. Thanks.
    PS. Your posts are hysterical

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Kemp, Bum, Bautista and Asdrubal…

  94. Jay says:
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    Is there a printable version of this list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You can copy the page into .pdf or XLS and print it…

      • Jay says:
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        @Grey: How do I do that?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You should be able to right click and save as…

        • Steve says:
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          @Jay: You need to select everything that’s in the table, copy it, and then you can paste it into an Excel spreadsheet.

        • Steve says:
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          @Jay: OK – I’ve managed to create a PDF version of it. It’s a bit ropey, but if you want it, shoot me an email at sglyon at gmaildotcom

  95. Tgun says:
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    Just wondering if there was a chance that you could post your top 400 in a printable list form? I (unfortunately) have to draft by Yahoo auto-draft this year, and their rankings are F’ed. I want to pre-rank them more or less based on your rankings.

    • Tgun says:
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      Sorry. I didn’t read down far enough…..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      If you’re pre-ranking Yahoo’s, why not just do it with this open on your computer?

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