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So, how’s everyone holding up without fantasy baseball every day?  I don’t know what to do with myself!  This weekend I wandered into a Starbucks and told the coffeerista about Giancarlo Stanton for 2013.  Then I laughed hysterically for a good twenty minutes until someone asked me to leave.  We’ve gone over the final 2012 fantasy baseball rankings for hitters and the top 20 starters.  There’s no more of these godforsaken recap posts left before we’re into 2013 fantasy baseball.  You’re welcome.  Well, there are Rudy’s recap of every fantasy sites projections that are coming on Thursday and Friday.  Those should be fun!  Hmm, why can’t I express enthusiasm without it sounding sarcastic?  I’ll need to talk to my shrink about that.  Anyway, here’s the top 40 starters for 2012 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

21. Kris Medlen – It’s not completely fair to have Medlen listed here when he gained a bunch of his overall value being a middle reliever.  But who needs fair when we’re talking about Medlen?  Guess who’s back?  Back again… Medlen’s back, tell a friend…. Stupid, catchy Youtube video!  I didn’t rank Medlen in the preseason, but, when he was put into the rotation, I gave him enough honest praise to make Dale Carnegie smile.  Preseason Unranked, 2012 Projections: , Final Numbers: 10-1/1.57/0.91/120 in 138 IP

22. Yu Darvish – His biggest problem seems to be the heat of the Dallas summer.  In April and September, his ERA was 2.20 in 69 2/3 inning.  In May, June, July and August, his ERA was 4.87 in 121 2/3 IP.  Preseason Rank #27, 2012 Projections: 14-7/3.60/1.10/190, Final Numbers:  16-9/3.90/1.28/221

23. Mat Latos – His biggest problem seems to be that he needs a good three months away from Dallas in heat.  As with Zimmerman and Rios, I should’ve also trusted my preseason projections with Latos and never dropped him.  Latos didn’t hurt me as badly because I simply picked up Medlen for about 70 innings.  Preseason Rank #19, 2012 Projections: 16-10/3.50/1.20/200, Final Numbers: 14-4/3.48/1.16/185

24. A.J. Burnett – If I didn’t do my rankings in January and early February, I would’ve ranked and projected Burnett.  He went to the Pirates just after I finished.  Because it’s been almost three months since I gave this arbitrary stat, I’ll say it again.  If you throw out Burnett’s 2 2/3 IP, 12 ER game vs. the Cards, his ERA on the year would’ve been 3.02.  Unfortch, you can’t throw out random games from his stat line.  The truly madly deeply shizzy thing was that start came three starts into his season so there’s a good chance he just got onto your team, the bomb hit and then you dropped him and missed a lot of his other (read:  good) starts.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 16-10/3.51/1.24/180

25. Yovani Gallardo – The positive:  he’s a workhorse.  The negative:  you’d prefer he’d miss some some of those 4 IP, 6 ER games.  The positive:  his ERA after April was 3.31.  The negative:  he can’t ever get his shizz together in April.  The positive:  his Ks were there again.  The negative:  his walks came back in a bad way this year, bumping a full walk per nine.  The positive:  he didn’t take a step forward in 2012 like I hoped.  The negative:  I didn’t have another positive so that last positive was a negative.  Preseason Rank #11, 2012 Projections: 15-9/3.15/1.20/210, Final Numbers: 16-9/3.66/1.30/204

26. Wade Miley – He upped his strikeouts from 2011 (to 6.66, which is also Milton Bradley’s street address) and he cut his walks by two and a half per nine, which is huge.  Wade-to-go-Miley!  His peripherals don’t scream out as a guy that should’ve been awful, but he looks more like a number five fantasy starter that just gives you solid if unspectacular stats.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 16-11/3.33/1.18/144

27. Lance Lynn – In the 1st half, he had a 3.41 ERA and 4.32 in the 2nd half.  He was far from useless in the 2nd half even with all my ranting about how you should drop him.  I still think you could’ve found someone better in most mixed leagues for the final three months, especially since the Cards started limited his innings towards the end…Then they threw him as a starter in the playoffs, so I’m really not sure if they had a game plan in regards to that.  The Cards seem like they can do no wrong with pitchers either way.  Jaime goes down, Lohse goes up, Carpenter goes down, Wainwright goes up; it’s Dave Duncan’s leave-behind, The Escalator of Escalating Pitchers (say that fast 117 times!).  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 18-7/3.78/1.32/180

28. Matt Harrison – Here’s my theory:  George Harrison did all that touchy-feely singing about My Sweet Lord and Hare Krishna, but since George is no longer with us, there’s some leftover karma floating around the universe for a Harrison, so Matt was able to beat his xFIP by almost a run and get 18 wins.  Or not.  Just a theory!  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 18-11/3.29/1.26/133

29. Cliff Lee – He never won a game where he allowed more than 2 runs.  Shoot, he didn’t win a game where he threw ten shutout innings.  He probably lost a game just because the scorekeeper couldn’t believe he won a game.  Honestly, seriously, The Adverb might’ve needed more bad luck to only win 6 games than the good luck he would’ve needed for him to win 14 games.   Somewhere, Murray Chass is saying hullabaloo to that.  Preseason Rank #3, 2012 Projections: 18-8/2.50/1.05/215, Final Numbers: 6-9/3.16/1.11/207

30. Jordan Zimmermann – His 2012 K-rate, xFIP (3.78) and walk rate was almost identical to his 2011 numbers, which isn’t odd per se, but in 2011 he was returning from Tommy John surgery, so there was the thought (at least in one of my frontal lobes) that he would’ve gained more control and strikeouts this year.  None of this is particularly wrong, he still had a solid season.  Just love to see him get back a 9 K-rate like he had his rookie year when he also had a 3.35 xFIP.  Hold on, January Grey is calling.  January Grey, “Yo, OctoGrey, what’s the haps?! There’s time for him to get more Ks, J-Z is still young…Forever young…I wanna be…Forever young.  That’s the joint, yo!  Bee tee dubya, could you wire me five grand?  February Grey wants me to place a bet on Lincecum becoming the closer.  OctoGrey, you there?  Hello?”  Preseason Rank #22, 2012 Projections: 14-6/3.25/1.15/170, Final Numbers: 12-8/2.94/1.17/153

31. Jonathon Niese – Niese is a great example of why pitching is so abundant in shallower mixed leagues.  Niese probably could’ve been picked up in most 12 team mixed leagues as late as June and he had a 3.01 ERA in the 2nd half.  Again, with feeling:  A guy that is the 31st best pitcher in baseball could’ve been picked up on waivers in June.  There’s why you wait on pitching.  Oh, the same could’ve been said of Medlen, Miley, Harrison, Vogelsong, Bailey…You get my point.  Here’s a stat that is neither here nor there, but was interesting to me.  Since he’s a lefty, managers sit their lefties vs. him, but lefties and righties have hit Niese nearly identically in the last 3 years (OPS .716 vs. lefties; .736 vs. righties).  (Granted, the sample size for lefty hitters is smaller.  That’s what she said!  Huh?)  Preseason Rank #67, 2012 Projections: 9-10/3.75/1.32/160, Final Numbers: 13-9/3.40/1.17/155

32. Ryan Vogelsong – See the first half of the blurb 1/8th of an inch above.  Vogelsong was also one of those pitchers that was probably more valuable than his final stats tell us because he was good straight through the middle months when you could ride him, then when he got bad towards the end of the year, it was obvious and you could drop him. And that’s your Vogelsong.  It may be quite simple but now that it’s done; I hope you don’t mind, I hope you don’t mind that I put it down in words.  Preseason Rank #66, 2012 Projections: 10-9/3.75/1.26/140, Final Numbers: 14-9/3.37/1.23/158

33. Adam Wainwright – Definitely had a better season than I thought he would returning from surgery, but it wasn’t that much better than I thought.  There was a good two month stretch in the beginning of the season that you didn’t want any part of him (4.56 ERA in the 1st half).  His 2nd half was back to his usual dominant self when W’s ruled the airwaves with Full Fudd and Wainwright and WeWayne Wise were wheel wen and woys were woys.  Preseason Rank #42, 2012 Projections: 12-7/3.75/1.28/140 in 160 innings, Final Numbers: 14-13/3.94/1.25/184 in 198 2/3 IP

34. Ian Kennedy – For full disclosure porpoises (they’re reading), I thought Kennedy would take a step back and told you to avoid him in the preseason, but I didn’t think he’d fall this hard.  Here’s what I said in February, “He’ll be lucky to get 15 wins this year.  Also, you throw in the fact he’s more of a 3.50 ERA pitcher than a 2.88 ERA that he was in 2011 and it’s yet another reason to avoid.  Will he shat the bed?  I guess it depends on what he eats, but I doubt it.  He made improvements on his K-rate and walk rate, but I still don’t trust him for where he’s being drafted and won’t pay the price.”  And that’s me quoting me!  Preseason Rank #26, 2012 Projections: 15-10/3.50/1.12/180, Final Numbers: 15-12/4.02/1.30/187

35. Homer Bailey – Bailey is pretty much the opposite of Kennedy.  I liked him in the preseason, but didn’t have this much faith in him.  On a related note, there’s no way anyone in a 12 team mixed league got all of this value from Bailey, i.e., you might’ve owned him for 15 starts at most, you didn’t own him for every start.  Don’t even lie.  Preseason Rank #81, 2012 Projections: 12-9/3.70/1.28/130, Final Numbers: 13-10/3.68/1.24/168

36. Ryan Dempster – “Judge, I’d like to present my case for why I always try and go with NL starters when at all possible.  My first witness is Ryan Dempster.  Ryan, is it or is it not true that you were traded to the AL?”  “Objection!  Leading the witness!”  “Okay, let me try a different tactic, Ryan, were you not better on the Cubs?”  “Objection, your honor!  The witness is not qualified to judge what’s ‘better.'”  “Ryan, is your name Ryan?”  “Objection!  Only his parents can truly answer that.”  “I rest my case.”  Preseason Rank #70, 2012 Projections: 12-8/3.90/1.33/190, Final Numbers: 12-8/3.38/1.20/153

37. Jason Vargas – Member the days when we’d always have a token Hodgepadre?  You’ll now have to settle for a Marginer.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 14-11/3.85/1.18/141

38. Phil Hughes – Probably the most surprising name to show up in the top 40.  Well, that’s not to say Hughes’s name in itself is surprising to see, but it’s surprising to see him after seeing his stats.  Those final stats don’t look like top 40 numbers to me.  I’m guessing the Wins are propping him up.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 16-13/4.23/1.26/165

39. Chris Capuano – Capuano is the same deal as Vogelsong.  He was great for a good three months, then when he was bad, it was obvious and you could’ve dropped him.  So you didn’t have his whole season of stats, but your ratios from him were better.  I hope you don’t mind, I hope you don’t mind– Okay, I’ll stop.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 12-12/3.72/1.22/162

40. Jarrod Parker – So, it wasn’t Brad Peacock or Tommy Milone that I touted endlessly in the preseason but his teammate, Parker.  Honestly, I had quite a few missed calls this year, yet I still beat ESPN, CBS, SI, Fox and an array of other people when you compare my rankings and projections.  Speaking of which, those comparisons are coming on Thursday and Friday from Rudy.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 13-8/3.47/1.26/140

From Around The Web

  1. chunk says:
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    Had significant starts from 8 of the top 40. Drafted Gio as my first SP in the 7th round. Listen to this man.

    Also, I met someone yesterday named Michael Trout. Immediately disliked him for not having changed his name yet.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @chunk, Well played! Who is this Michael Trout guy? An impostor? I have a group of fantasy baseballers with burning stakes that say we don’t like Trout impostors.

  2. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Wrote an under the Greydar post about Capuano. Wrote about Niese’s nose reconstruction being a positive and that he was underrated. Included Homer Bailey in a Deep League Thoughts post on pitchers.

    You can officially call me Nostra-f’in-damus.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sky, You sound like Jason Grey right before he left ESPN to become a scout for the Rays…

  3. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Well as soon as they become the Portland Rays, they might have another scout…nothing on this Earth can make me move to Florida.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ah, a real aristocrat! Not even humidity and mosquitos?

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @Grey, Not even those chicks they always talk about in the news would get me down there. I mean, I’m sure Hurricane Irene or Tropical Storm Debby are worth the price of admission but my cocaine supplier is doing just fine by me. No need to get closer to the source.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          See, you’re mule-reliant.

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            @Grey, True but the closer I get to Florida, the closer I get to the band Creed. I tell you man, it’s just not right down there!

        • Jack Full of Hate says:
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          @Sky, you know they have nachos in Florida too

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Is this all about nachos? Sky, they have nachos all over now. Not just in Washington State (wait, do they have nachos there?)…

            • Jack Full of Hate says:
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              @Grey, I thought Sky was from the Oregon backwoods?

              Yes they do have nachos in Washington, they are just depressed nachos….soggy chips.

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                @Jack Full of Hate, Don’t forget the chips are flannel colored!

                • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                  @Sky, I couldn’t imagine it any other way

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Oh, that’s right… Oregon… Yeah, their nachos are depressing and talk about the days of grunge…

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  @Grey, Oregon: most microbreweries per capita in the US which in turn means most depressed drunk people per capita in the US.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    I’ll take the most boob jobs per capita, thank you very much!

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, Yes! and Yes again!…most microbreweries = most beer snobs per capita in the US

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              @Grey, Something tells me Florida uses Easy Cheese.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, royce! mentioned that yesterday… As I said to him, Mets moved in the fences and it did nothing, I don’t see Petco dramatically changing either…

  4. Jon says:
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    Who do you like more next year: Medlen or Zimmermann?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Zimmermann

      • Vacation says:
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        Boo! Boo!

  5. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    If your top 40 has taught me anything is that I didn’t know jack this year about pitching, In RCL I had Cain, Mad Max, Johan for 100 innings, Colby Lewis for 100 innings, Annibal for 100 innings and after that every starter was below 50 innings and mostly streamers…..damn you Lubeke and your sissy arm.

    Just a thought, has there ever been a pitcher with a mustache who has had tommy john surgery? I couldn’t think of any off hand and if its true then the power of the stauche is very true.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There’s never been anyone with a mustache that has ever needed any surgery. Now you have the secret, it’s up to you who you tell it to… Rollie Fingers Mustache is going to be on next season’s Dancing With the Stars too… Just the mustache…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey, how did you hear? Did his mustache call your mustache?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          My mustache and I haven’t talked since July. Something about telling him to drop Latos…

      • mauledbypandas says:
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        @Grey, Derek Holland’s stache didn’t do him many favors though performance wise (baseball performance that is.)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nope… Didn’t do him any favors for him appearance wise either. It was barely a mustache, so I don’t think we should count it.

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey, that looked like he skinned his upper lip on the asphault

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              It was when of those cases when a good effort isn’t enough…

  6. Jon says:
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    If I’m going to sell high on Medlen this off-season in my keeper league, I need to know what to try to get for him. OF is my biggest position of need but that’s easier to find in the draft. Can you throw out some names of hitters you’d try to target? Maybe some that will be undervalued going into 2013?

    Or if you don’t want to do that I’ll just wait and ask January Grey since I doubt the other owners are thinking about fantasy baseball right now anyway :)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You should ask January Grey too… You should also see what kinds of OFs you could get… Maybe Justin Upton? Not sure who has extra OFs and would want Medlen in your league…

  7. Steve says:
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    Ozzie. Goooooooooone.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m only surprised he was hired to begin with…

  8. JungleMike says:
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    Where would you rank Medlin overall in a dynasty league draft?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Around 80…

  9. slew says:
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    That Carlton Fisk, Field of Bad dreams.
    -arrested for DUI in cornfield!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Does that mean he broke his old record for days caught?

  10. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    Been avoiding the site until I was all caught up on the Runway, just in case. Have you finished the season yet?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I finished it… I was surprised by the winner but I was happy with how it played out… Didn’t seem rote as to who would win… I wasn’t crazy about the winner’s designs though… They looked like pattern cut outs that a kid would use for a Halloween costume… Was surprised not to see a turkey hand dress… Also I would’ve preferred the runner up won but he seemed to do catalog work for Tommy Bahama…

      • Awesomus Maximus

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        @Grey, I thought this was one of the weaker (if not the weakest) final runways. I don’t know if they had less time this season, more pressure, less talent… whatever. Seemed like Christopher was relying more on his previous challenge wins than the strength of his collection. Fabio’s looked like a watered-down subset of an Uli (Season 3) collection. Dmitry… well, you pretty much nailed it. I disliked Melissa’s collection the least, mostly on the strength of the leather dress, jacket, and a couple other good pieces, with the rest being neither good nor bad. I don’t think hers was far and away better, so I really didn’t care who they gave the prize to.

        What impressed me most in the last few episodes was Zoë Saldana as a guest judge. She was sharp, critical, and confident. They could definitely use her on PRAS in place of… well, any of them.

        • Jack Full of Hate says:
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          @Awesomus Maximus, You seem like some kind of fashion critic. I can’t help but chuckle when I read your analysis of a fashion show. But I still enjoy playing fantasy baseball with you…and you are going down this coming season in Auction League.

          • mauledbypandas says:
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            @Jack Full of Hate, I dunno man.. his keepers are outrageous.

            • Awesomus Maximus

              Awesomus Maximus says:
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              @mauledbypandas, Cespedes and Harper for $4 each is outrageous… Trout for $4 is borderline criminal.

              • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                @Awesomus Maximus, true, but three players don’t make a winner

                • Awesomus Maximus

                  Awesomus Maximus says:
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                  @Jack Full of Hate, Oh absolutely… not to mention any (or all) of the three could easily have a sophomore slump. I won’t be skimping on my draft prep based on my keepers, that’s for sure.

            • Jack Full of Hate says:
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              @mauledbypandas, hey I showed up late to the party and I am shocked that you guys let him have those three that cheap. No offense, but you guys collectively have some fantasy baseball IQ issues. That should never happen again.

              • mauledbypandas says:
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                @Jack Full of Hate, that’s pretty harsh to say if you weren’t there for the whole year. Kudos to amax for grabbing those guys at the right time and holding on. You’ll get the chance to show us how high your fantasy baseball IQ is next year eh?

                • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                  @mauledbypandas, I like to start the smack talk early. It makes it more fun, and if the past is correct then people step up their game to beat my ass. I have been telling amax that the greatest skill in this game is luck….eh?…we Canadian?

              • Awesomus Maximus

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                @Jack Full of Hate, Eh… hindsight is 20/20. There are a number of other players who could have been the big breakout of 2012, as well as some who will be kept at $4 who could have better seasons than any of those three in 2013. I won’t question my fantasy IQ if the latter happens… just the way this game goes.

                • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                  @Awesomus Maximus, This is great, i never thought in october we would be talking a little playful smack for next year. I am looking more towards playing your league this coming year than my old money league. I love the mix of luck and smarts to play this game. Its just that damn injury bug you can never count on. I might actually study up this year, haven’t done that in a couple of seasons. I took your model and tried to get the best bang for my 4 bucks. I am not questioning your IQ, of course I have never played an auction draft, but either way I always find a way to make a difference in the end. The hateful one has arrived!

          • Awesomus Maximus

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            @Jack Full of Hate, Kinda’ makes me chuckle, too. Definitely no critic, and my wardrobe consists almost entirely of plain T-shirts and jeans, so I’m not even really into fashion. I just like fashion as an art medium… that and Project Runway is some good reality TV.

            I honestly wouldn’t mind someone kicking my ass next season. I mean, I want to win of course, but I want good competition more than anything.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Zoe was impressive and very beautiful… I haven’t watched PRAS yet ( might not start until tonight), but agreed that Zoe could go far on that show as a judge…Shoot, make her the Tim Gunn mentor. Gotta be better than Coles.

          I was surprised more by the finale that Christopher, who seemed the landslide favorite, didn’t win. That surprised me in a good way, but the collections were a let down… Am I remembering it wrong or did they get a lot less time to prep for Fashion Week? Like a few months less…

          • Awesomus Maximus

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            @Grey, My wife says they normally get six weeks instead of the five they were given this season. I don’t know that another week would have done them any good, but I do feel like this season was more rushed overall, and it didn’t allow much room for reflection and growth.

            PRAS doesn’t start until tomorrow, I think.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I think because Lifetime is trying to shove too many seasons of PR into a calendar year the schedules are more rushed… All I know is Gunn went to see them about five days before they were due back in NY for Fashion Week… Even if there was a major problem, there was no time to fix anything… I could’ve sworn he used to go halfway through their time home and it used to be 8 weeks…

  11. Steve says:
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    I hope these guys are actually in to it, because it’s kind of neat:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIMX2pGBKkw&feature=plcp

    I wonder if, as soon as Cliff gets in to a winning position, one of the relievers comes running in and throws the board on the floor?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, that’s awesome… I was thinking the same about Cliff Lee… “Looks like checkmate….” “Actually, Cliff, you just lost all your pieces because a pawn threw a wild pitch in the dirt…”

  12. Steve says:
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    Holy shit.

    • Steve says:
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      @Steve, Kung Fu Panda says “Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-Yah!”

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Verlander who? Didn’t I say something about rust this late in the season would hurt the Tigers? Btw, I love how ESPN has the headline of Verlander has the edge over Zito…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Wow…

        • Steve says:
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          @Grey, All three donks came with two outs.

  13. Steve says:
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    Pablo Sandoval is the first player in MLB history to hit home runs in his first three plate appearances of a World Series game. (it says here)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      And there! Wow, absolutely insane… Where was Panda all year? Hibernating…

  14. Steve says:
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    I recognise this guy Valverde.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA… Seriously…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, Valverde thinks he’s still playing for my H2H team.

        Pablo thinks he’s in a matchup against it.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, exactly… I can’t believe Ruth, Reggie, Albert and…Panda. Panda, really?

  15. Steve says:
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    I’m here, Grey – in case you’re wondering. I’d like to see the Bum do his thing in a big postseason game.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hehe…You said you like to see Bum… Hehe… Yeah, him and Fister — hehe, I said Fister — look great so far…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, All that’s missing is Dickey and Leake coming on in relief.

        Oh – and where’s Knob(lauch) when you need him?

        Slightly drunk btw. Been drinking beer snob beer…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha! You’re thinking about Leake as a relief because you’re drinking beer… I thought we were seeing Steve Magic b/c I read your comment then Bum walked Miggy on nine pitches, but a DP ended that…

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey, Heh. I’m always careful no to use the double play abbreviation here…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Why?

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey, Might imply that I’m all too familiar with porn abbreviations. I mean, ATM means ‘at the moment’, right?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  HA! Wow, I never thought about Fister, Bum and the DP before… What kind of beer is that you’re drinking?

                  • Steve says:
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                    @Grey, IPA. So good. Though I’m back in the office now.

                    I reckon the Giants will regard yesterday as a huge bonus. I figured that if they could get 3 wins (2 even) out of Cain and Bumgarner, they’d be real hard to beat.

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, I don’t think they have much of a chance with Vogelsong or Lincecum… I think in Detroit and with a DH will be harder enough…

                    • Steve says:
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                      @Grey, Might have seen Timmy’s real value (in this series anyway) yesterday.

                      Great to be able to call on a guy who can do that.

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, true… Gotta bunt fair, man… Geez…

                    • Steve says:
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                      @Grey, A foul bunt? Not watching, just following.

                      But you’re giving up an out with the bunt!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Wow, I take that back… Great bunt…

                    • Steve says:
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                      @Grey, Oh – I see that now. How the eff do these Giants do it?

                    • Grey

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                      Right now, they’re charmed… Insane bunt on the line…

                    • Steve says:
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                      @Grey, That might be enough. I reckon Bochy can get six outs with that bullpen combo.

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, agreed…

                    • Steve says:
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                      @Grey, They’re a great example of a team that is boring as dog’s balls (for the most part) for fantasy, but are greater than the sum of its parts when it comes to real life.

  16. Steve says:
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    This Detroit bullpen is being cruelly exposed right now. I don’t think there’s one guy you can trust.

    • Steve says:
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      @Steve, I know I said that if Coke is safely closing tight games, it might be your year.

      The other side of that is that if Coke is your most trustworthy guy, you’re in trouble.

      • Grey

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        Yeah, it’s six of one on that… Coke is it… That’s it?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Why does ESPN have it saying Detroit should feel good about it’s chances under a photo of them about to lose?

  17. Steve says:
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    Still here!

    Happy for either pitcher to win tonight, really. Scherzer because of all the stuff he’s had to overcome this year and Cain, because he’s been so good for so long, it would be only right that he’s the winning pitcher in a WS sweep.

    • Grey

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      I kinda want the Tigers to win just so the series goes on a bit longer…

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey, I CONCUR!!! (Extra emphasis to make up for recent absence). But I also concur.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          The exclamation mark in your name covers for the absence/emphasis…

        • Steve says:
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          @royce!, ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!

          Otherwise this will be one of the limpest World Series in recent memory.

  18. Steve says:
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    Affeldt and Coke both just struck out the side?

    What is this? Some early season interleague game?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It looks like the hitters are exhausted… Crazy that the Giants offense actually looks better too…

  19. Steve says:
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    Man, an awful lot of important things have happened in this WS with two outs.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      The Tigers have looked listless…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Insane thing is the Giants didn’t even have a decent Lincecum this year…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, Bum and Cain and pray for rain!

        • Grey

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          And they got a lot of rain…

  20. Steve says:
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    It’s all set up for Prince (who couldn’t hit his own arse with a banjo) to walk this one off…

    • Grey

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      Yeah, don’t think that banjo’s gonna be playing with how they look…

  21. Steve says:
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    He went down looking? Good grief.

    I haven’t been following every pitch, but did this series ever get tense?

    • Grey

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      This last night was about the tensest… You wouldn’t think a steady diet of sliders would get Miggy but there ya go…

  22. Steve says:
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    So where is Scutaro in your rankings NOW, Grey?

    Huh?

    HUH?

  23. royce! says:
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    I’ve been busy w work and family shizz, so I’m somewhat god that I basically missed the most boring WS since I think 1998…though it seems my bay area friends are unlikely to let me forget how great of a series it was. The most exciting thing about this series was whether Scutaro or Blanco would beat out Panda for the MVP…

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