Comments on: Top 40 Starters, 2009 Fantasy Baseball

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:39:37 +0000

@Elijah: @Steve: Lee did garner Cy Young votes back in '05. So it's not completely uncharted territory. He still seems like a 3.50 ERA pitcher to me more than a 2.50 like he was in his Cy Young year. A very good pitcher, but not a great one. @big o: Nice.

By: big o

big o — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:53:09 +0000

found this picture of grey , before he cleaned up his act .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMzoqpyUbhg

hope you enjoy this classic .

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:55:56 +0000

@Steve: Roaming over to Baseball.reference to see what happened to Grey, I notice Lee 'broke out' in his 5th full season, Koufax about the same, Johnson about the same, Moyer somewhat later. Lee didnt make the majors til later, but otherwise theres some correlation there.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:46:48 +0000

@Steve:

Its an odd ‘career arc’ but some lefties seem to ‘zone in’ much later than the typical starting pitchers arc. Jamie Moyer, late bloomer. Randy Johnson, late bloomer. Sandy Koufax, late bloomer…maybe Cliff Lee, late bloomer?!

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:40:33 +0000

@Elijah: I think most of us here were happy to go along with Grey's pre-season assessment that Lee's season last year was something of an outlier and he was due for a correction, but credit where credit's due, he's putting on a pretty impressive show.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:31:24 +0000

Sounds odd to say it at the time, but that was a potentially legendary start for Lee, to shut down the Empire in their house Game 1.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:29:19 +0000

They let Lee go the distance, someone’s listening to me, heh.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:25:46 +0000

@Grey: China has an advantage over the democracies in that it can really envision and implement long term strategic plans. If they have a plan, and their experts come back and say, "Yes we can do that, but it will take 20 years." its not a problem, if anything they prefer to wait quietly until all their plans come to fruit, its part of the culture. Those sorts of missions are almost impossible in the US, there's no short-term political gain, and the architects would of course be long gone before the plan could be completed, not to mention long term plans are not as well suited to our general psychology.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:07:22 +0000

@Steve: Interesting, I had no idea. @Elijah: Be fascinating if it were Japan and China working together like that. In some ways China would still be 2nd fiddle. Can't get out of the shadow. Even if it dwarfs the others.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:02:51 +0000

@Grey: Which I imagine is the primary reason (other than our economic instability due to massive debt) they don't want the US involved, raises their status and the all-important "face". Then you have countries like Australia and Singapore that would prefer a full Pacific Rim Union with US at the head.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:59:18 +0000

@Elijah: That would be a heavyweight collection of economies, to be sure. @Grey: We are one of the 12 most-traded currencies, apparently. We also generally have interest rates that are attarctive to offshore investors. The official cash rate (is set by our Reserve Bank and is the main yardstick) is currently 2.5% in the wake of the recession, but it normally bounces around between 5 and 9 percent. I'll stop now as I'm espousing stuff I don't know enough about!

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:56:26 +0000

@Elijah: It makes sense that Japan would want to go that route. They might not be the ruling elite in regards to China anymore, but I feel like they would still be the front man in the equation.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:54:28 +0000

Wow. Its just the Phillies nite tonite.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:53:13 +0000

The general economic-political situation in the East pacific is getting rather interesting, with Japan showing strong signs of wanting to shed its long lapdog status with regards to the US and pushing towards an East Asian Economic Union that doesn’t include the US but does include longtime enemy China. Its not a new idea for them but before WWII they envisioned themselves as the ruling elite, now clearly it would be a more equal spread. A Chinese-Indian-Japan alliance, perhaps with Indonesia and a few other smaller countries could soon be the biggest economic power bloc in the world.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:51:33 +0000

@BigFatHippo: Donnie is such a perfect name too. Donnie Broads Co.

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:49:11 +0000

@Grey: Ha!

“The house was a disaster” sounds familiar…………

His bedroom hasn’t been cleaned in years, yet they still sleep with him no matter how classy they are. Black or white, Hispanic, asian, married, divorced, separated, whatever, it matters none.

If you know those guys who do the Pickup Artist thing on MTV, send me an e-mail, they’d love Donnie, he’d make their show……………

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:47:01 +0000

@Steve: I don't claim to understand it fully, but it's interesting a small nation like NZ has such a high exchange. You're like Luxembourg of the South Seas! <-- You should totally get that bumper sticker made.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:44:53 +0000

@Grey: No worries - I find that stuff interesting, I just wish I understood it a bit better! We're a high-risk, high reward currency I think.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:42:28 +0000

@Steve: A+ work. Pick up your take home exam on the way out. Yeah, I was just wondering if NZ's been that high for a while. No big deal, was just curious.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:39:49 +0000

@Grey: I don't understand this shizz at all, but I think it's a combination of the US dollar being relatively weak recently (Fed's been pumping more money into the economy and there's a bit of uncertainty over the USD's status as the world's top reserve currency) and the NZ dollar being in quite high demand. Or so my five minutes' of research tells me.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:32:34 +0000

@BigFatHippo: You ever read The Game? http://lin.cr/0des He sounds like a character in that. Great book, btw.

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:24:59 +0000

@Grey: If he wanted to he would, it’s unreal.

He should go to Hollywood and hit on the flavor of the month. Guarantee he’d sleep with em all……….

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:24:09 +0000

@Steve: Is that recent because of our economy or has it been like that for a while?

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:19:59 +0000

@Grey: We get 72 of your cents for one of our dollars, you get about 1.42 of ours for one of yours. Pretty good for both of us I guess. @Elijah: Indeed.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:19:45 +0000

@Elijah: I hope you just jinxed him.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:18:51 +0000

I let Lee go the distance here. Getting game 1 is just too valuable to risk that bullpen coming in.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:17:31 +0000

@BigFatHippo: Ha! And your old roommate tried to sleep with her.

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:17:00 +0000

@Grey: I think that chick that was singing just flew into Scott AFB and bought tires off me the other day.

By: Elijah

Elijah — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:15:29 +0000

@Steve: Depends on the season of course. It's much more during your summer/our winter.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:14:15 +0000

@BigFatHippo: The correction, when it does come, is going to be MAJOR.