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Third base was far from an epic fail like something JayWrong would have a GIF for.  There were a good ten 3rd basemen and another handful that could’ve covered your corner infidel slot.  The problem is after the top fifteen the 3rd basemen fall off the map like a 12th century explorer.  Here’s you, “Hey, I’m gonna go to India heading west.”  You’re whistling, everything is good, then you have Mark Reynolds in your corner infidel slot and you’re dead from scurvy.  This year there were fewer 3rd basemen coming out of nowhere to give you value, so if you didn’t have a top guy, you were probably stuck piecing together waiver scraps.  This final ranking is from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater with my comments.  The Player Rater allows me to be impartial while looking at how I ranked them in the preseason.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 3rd basemen for 2013 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

1. Miguel Cabrera – Miggy was the only player to score $40+ on the year and one of six guys to score more than $30.  So, think back to your draft and all of those players that were going for $30 or more or the one stunod who went to $50 on a player.  Okay, now think back to your first day of kindergarten.  Okay, now think back to the smell in the room.  You smell carrots and doodie?  Sorry, I just hypnotized you.  You’re too easy.  So, Miggy was the only player worth the $40 bid, and as I’ve been known to preach in the past, you really shouldn’t go over $30 on anyone.  (That’s outside of keepers where more money is available for less players.)  Miggy once again competed for the Triple Crown while wishing it was Crown Royal.  If it wasn’t for Chris Davis, he would’ve taken it easily.  Stupid Chris Davis, ruining baseball history.  Preseason Rank #1, 2013 Projections:  110/39/124/.327/3, Final Numbers: 103/44/137/.348/3

2. Edwin Encarnacion – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen post.

3. Adrian Beltre – As I went over during the season ad nauseam, I traded for Beltre after his terrible April.  His stats for me:  71/24/76/.331/1 in 507 ABs.  His stats for the other guy:  15/4/13/.241 in 112 ABs.  Classic buy low, sell high, which is different than when you stand outside of the supermarket selling pickles.  That’s a Vlassic buy low, sell high.  For Beltre, I traded Shin-Soo Choo.  His stats for me 25/5/13/.331/3 in 118 ABs.  His stats for him:  82/16/41/.273/17 in 451 ABs.  Yup, I got a .331 average from both of them.  How you like dem apples?  Delicious!  Preseason Rank #3, 2013 Projections:  82/28/103/.281/2, Final Numbers:  88/30/92/.315/1

4. Matt Carpenter – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen post.

5. Josh Donaldson – Here’s what I said in the preseason, “He couldn’t even stick with the A’s (in 2012), hitting .153 through his first 28 games.  From April to June, he had one walk.  He couldn’t hit the ball even if he was swinging with his dad Sam Donaldson’s eyebrows.  When he returned, he looked like a new man, hitting .290 with 8 homers in 176 2nd half ABs.  His September (4 homers, .257 in 101 ABs) looks repeatable.  Unfortunately, I’m not convinced his April through June aren’t repeatable, as well.”  And that’s me quoting me!  He proved he could build on his respectable 2nd half of 2012 and defied my expectations for the entire year.  Now that I have some distance from hating him all year for defying me, I see his walk and strikeout rates were decent and his homers per fly ball ratio wasn’t egregiously lucky.  He looks more like a 20+ homer, .280 hitter than I gave him credit for.  Mea culpa.  Now that I’ve made amends he’s surely going to fall on his face next year and don’t call me Shirley.  Preseason Rank #30, 2013 Projections:  58/16/68/.258/4, Final Numbers:  89/24/93/.301/5

6. Evan Longoria – It took Longoria to the last day of the season, game number 163, to match my home run projection.  It took the Rays playing an extra game, a tiebreaker.  But he got there.  He got there because in March I knew the Rangers and Rays would play an extra game with Longo hitting his 32nd homer.  I’m a witch, y’all!  Preseason Rank #2, 2013 Projections:  89/32/107/.283/5, Final Numbers:  91/32/88/.269/1

7. Ryan Zimmerman – Due to the entire Nats offense minus Werth not playing until September, Zimmerman’s RBIs were down, but everything else was fine.  This was far from a successful season though, since he was one of the biggest jockstuffers with a Septacular final month.  If you owned Zimmerman, you were probably either out of it by September when he decided to hit 11 homers or you dropped him and helped someone else win.  Either way, there’s no love lost for Zimmerman from me or anyone who has owned him the last three years.  Or there’s lots of love lost.  I never understood that cliche.  Preseason Rank #4, 2013 Projections:  88/27/108/.293/6, Final Numbers:  84/26/79/.275/6

8. Pedro Alvarez – I can’t help thinking Pedro and Chris Davis can meet somewhere in the middle next year like Malcolm and Monie.  Pedro from Pittsburgh takes quite a few less walks than Chris Davis.  Their line drives aren’t that far off, their ground balls and fly balls have sizable differences and the amount of pitches they both swing at outside the strike zone is nearly identical.  Does any of this mean anything?  Am I hiding my skepticism in a long string of thoughts that most won’t read?  Probably.  But Preseason Rank #13, 2013 Projections:  60/27/81/.245/1, Final Numbers:  70/36/100/.233/2

9. Hanley Ramirez – Went over him in the top 20 shortstops post.

10. David Wright – You know you have a problem when you have third basemen in the top 10 who have middle infielder-type stats.  Wright’s 18/17 is great for a middle infielder or for Wade Boggs’s vision.  From your 3rd baseman?  Meh.  Since Wright did it in 112 games, you could give him a bye, but he’s been hurt two of the last three years and the only bye I wanna give him is with a wave of my hand.  BAM!  In robot voice, “Clever points rating off the chart.  Hard to compute how clever Grey is.”  Preseason Rank #5, 2013 Projections:  88/24/102/.286/15, Final Numbers:  63/18/58/.307/17

11. Kyle Seager – From 2012 to 2013, Seager was the steadiest* player.  Giving virtually the same stats in both years — 20 to 22 HRs; 13 steals to 9; .259 to .260.  *Sample size to figure out the steadiest player was one player — Kyle Seager.  Also, what the hell does steadiest mean?  He’d make a good waiter?  Preseason Rank #18, 2013 Projections:  69/18/85/.264/11, Final Numbers:  79/22/69/.260/9

12. Manny Machado – You can just look at my mentions of him in roundups as the season progressed to see how his season went.  In the first half, .310 vs. .240 in the 2nd half.  Also, he had zero steals in the 2nd half after getting 6 in the 1st.  Could mean his legs got tired after his first full season in the majors.  Could mean he doesn’t like you.  Hey, don’t shoot the messenger.  Preseason Rank #12, 2013 Projections:  72/19/81/.274/12, Final Numbers:  88/14/71.283/6

13. Martin Prado – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

14. Jedd Gyorko – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

15. Chris Johnson – Came up just short of winning the boringest Braves batting title since Terry Pendleton.  He gets points for courage since Pendleton didn’t want him even attempting to win that title.  Preseason Rank #27, 2013 Projections:  44/13/48/.274/4, Final Numbers:  54/12/68/.321

16. Todd Frazier – We all know he didn’t live up to the hype I heaped on him in the preseason, but, in all fairness to me, he was unlucky and really seemed to start to piece together things in the 2nd half.  Make you feel better?  No?  How about now?  *rubs shoulders*  You like Frazier more now?  Yeah, you do.  Preseason Rank #9, 2013 Projections:  72/29/89/.268/5, Final Numbers:  63/19/73/.234/6

17. Pablo Sandoval – In my mind’s eye, I could’ve sworn I predicted Pablo would be lousy again this year.  My mind’s eye is clouded by years of marijuana and forty ounces of malt liquor.  Preseason Rank #6, 2013 Projections:  84/25/90/.289/3, Final Numbers:  52/14/79/.278

18. Matt Dominguez – He was unranked, but I did mention him.  He was a punchline for a guy to not draft.  Who’s the punchline now?!  You?  I was speaking rhetorically, Random Italicized Voice.  You say tomato, I say stupid.  Thanks.  You’re welcome.  Leave me alone!  Any the hoo!  Dominguez really wasn’t someone you were drafting in most mixed leagues, or owning for the better of the year.  He did passable as a corner infidel for stretches of the season.  Those stretches of the season where you couldn’t find anyo0ne else.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  56/21/77/.241

19. Mark Reynolds – Behind door number one is, “How sad is it that Mark Reynolds is in the top 20?”  Behind door number 2 is, “Twenty homers gets you in the top 20.”  Behind door number three is, “There is no door number three.”  So which door do you choose?  Did I do that ‘behind door number’ thing wrong?  You’re not supposed to know what’s behind the doors, are you?  Hmm, okay, what door do you choose if you don’t know what’s behind the doors?  Preseason Rank #20, 2013 Projections:  79/29/88/.226/6, Final Numbers:  55/21/67/.220/3

20. Mike Aviles – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

229 Responses

  1. SteveNZ says:
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    Jesus, Panda really was terrible. Throw him, J-Up, Braun, Rutledge and Perez into my H2H team and I should be glad I made the playoffs, let alone the final…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @SteveNZ: Yeah, and the crazy thing is (maybe not crazy — sad?) if they would’ve had a great final week, you would’ve won… You are a fickle mistress, H2H…

    • STEVE B says:
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      @SteveNZ: Panda hit about 14 hr in the world series last year and he gets only 14 all of 2013 ? Must have hit the banquet circuit a little heavy during the winter.The whole giant team must have…….MMMM oysters at fishermans wharf

  2. TheNewGuy says:
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    Haha great stuff Grey.

    That trade was the definition of how to trade in fantasy baseball, genius. We should all learn from that.

    I did some stinkers this year, the worst probably being mini Cargo for Yoga early on,(and I thought that was sell high buy low then), ouch! My best by far and away was trading Shark and Henderson earlist on for Krush Davis, killed that one. Always fun to analyse deals once the years over!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TheNewGuy: Thanks! Yeah, and my other trade of Machado after a month for Price right before he went on a 4 month trade was solid too…

      • Ecstatic Giraffe says:
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        My best trade was also my first ever trade. In April, I traded Justin Maxwell and Trevor Rosenthall for Coco Crisp and Craig Kimbrel.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Kinda crazy the other guy even went for it…

          • Ecstatic Giraffe says:
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            @Grey: lol we were both brand new to fantasy baseball and I didn’t even know anything about baseball outside of the Blue Jays. I knew the deal was a steal, but I thought the biggest piece of the deal was Coco Crisp, I had no idea how good Kimbrel was.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, he’s a beast…

  3. Slim

    Buddah Lovaz says:
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    Cardinals threw Wacha-Martinez-Rosenthal last night. Scary. If Rosenthal is the closer next year I think he’s probably gonna be in the top 5. Aroldis. Kimbrel. Jansen. Holland. Rosenthal. And the award for ‘cheapest to draft’ goes to… not so dramatic pause… Trevor Rosenthal. Trevor can’t be with us this morning because he’s pitching in the playoffs. Accepting the award on his behalf is Edward Mujica and Jason Motte’s elbow. Mujica, “It’s because of me you will be able to draft Rosenthal cheaply next year. Your Welcome. Here’s Jason Motte’s elbow to say a few motivational words.” Motte’s elbow leans close to the mic… cricket… cricket… It’s an elbow, it can’t talk. I’m not sure what you were expecting it to say. However legend has it that if you listen very closely to Jason Motte’s elbow you can hear the sound of waves beating against a sandy white beach. Dr. Freeze hears it every time he looks at an MRI.

    • Slim

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      @Buddah Lovaz: Just wondering if you came up with Rosterbaiting before it was said on, “The League”. Looks like the first mention in, “The League” was Sept 16, 2010.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Buddah Lovaz: Ha! I wish Mujica would’ve held up another 10 days so we’d get Rosenthal next spring without anyone knowing about him…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: rosenthal will be cheapest, and likely best value, but he isn’t as good as those other guys. And no Cardinals closer except for injury replacements (like mujica) is gonna be all that cheap. How cheap was Motte this year?

  4. Oz says:
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    Ry-zim did just enough to earn him a roster spot for 2014 on the defending champions “Troutastic Troutties” (yes I’m an angel fan and named my team and religion after him.)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Oz: Nice…But I don’t love when the Troutastic Troutties come to my door asking for a donation…

      • STEVE B says:
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        @Grey: for a bag of worms or fake flies ?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Fake flies…

  5. Wake Up says:
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    Surprised Pedro Alvarez didn’t make your list…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: Ha…Hilarious… Don’t worry, someone will come along and say something equally ___.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: So, is this how you are ranking these guys for next year? …ok…I’ll stop…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… You won’t be the only one…

  6. OaktownSteve says:
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    Donaldson…the possum in your crawlspace, Albright.

  7. FMFBL says:
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    So Carp is top 5 in 3IF positions. Any chance we’re having this same conversation in October of next year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

  8. Comatose Blue Jays Fan says:
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    WTF Albright…where’s lawrie?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You sound like I took him to the mall and lost him…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: you prolly did it just to spite me…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Have Cher as my voicemail? No, that’s because I enjoy Cher.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: No…lose Lawrie in a Jersey Mall…

  9. J-FOH says:
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    Hey look at that Matt Dominguez made the list, what frequent commenter argued his being usable for 2013 in a complimentary role? Ok it’s me, but I have no life and over here I can’t keep hanging my hat on my football article/list…..Jack Full of Pettiness

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I remember that… He wasn’t easy to own the whole year though, even in a 12-team league… Did you hold him the whole time?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Oh hells no, but a deep league,r 16 team plus, probably bought a Dominguez jersey and renamed his dog matty

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, yup

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure, okay, but they also have Cher!

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        The Cher one would go “Do you BELIEVE that Gray isn’t home…I feel somethin’ inside me say, I really don’t think that Gray’s at home.”

        And it would be in that weird synth voice.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          How about, “You got me babe, but you don’t got Grey because he’s out?”

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: “If you could turn back time you would of called Grey when he was home”

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              “Snap out of it!” Sound of smacking “Call back later.”

              • Wake Up says:
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                @Grey: “Grey is busy entertaining some sailors right now…butt, he’ll get back to you real soon…hey why the elephant face? Grey will give you all the stars in a few…”

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  HA! “Hey, this is Vin Scully and Grey is out sucking off Paul Goldschmidt and hates Matt Kemp. He’s also a Jew. Leave a message.”

                  • Wake Up says:
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                    @Grey: HAHAHA!

              • OaktownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                Excellent….with the Che Galida Manina aria from La Boheme as the message outro

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Haha

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: “I can’t come to the phone right now, I might be masturbating or setting my lineups for today”

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  “…Or maybe those are the same things. Talk soon!”

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I’m either masturbating or rosterbating…leave a message

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Perfect!

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @OaktownSteve: @Grey: “Grey can’t come to the phone right now, he’s out hanging with the gypsies, tramps and thieves. Leave a message.”

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha “Hey, this Peter Dinklage and Grey is helping get something down for me off a high shelf. He’ll get back to you when he has a free hand.”

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: RUDY HAS HIS HAND! RUDY HAS HIS BRIDE! YOU WANT ME TO TAKE MY HEARTBREAK PUT IT AWAY AND TALK TO YOU!!!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              HA!

  10. OaktownSteve says:
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    You know who was stinko bunko was Brett Lowrie. Can’t blame it entirely on the injuries either. Post-hype stinker.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, be interesting to see if he ever comes around, but it’ll be hard to bet too much that he does until he actually does

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Nick will say he will

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nick is the Comatose Blue Jays Fan

  11. FMFBL says:
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    in my keeper league, keep the guy he was drafted in forever:
    i just flipped 22nd segura and 22nd matt carpenter for 14th round crush. should i be pumped, missing segura already.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds decent…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      And pass up a pile of battery chargers?!

      • Big Magoo says:
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        @Grey: Who couldn’t use a broken ping pong table?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I know, right? Actually, surprised Youkilis hasn’t been by to grab some of this stuff…

          • Big Magoo says:
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            @Grey: I’m sure he already has his own extensive crutch collection…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha!

              • costaricanchata says:
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                @Grey:

                i wonder how much the “other” sock is going for .
                and ,
                considering it’s schilling ,
                how many “other” socks he has for auction .

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  HA! True… Can he just go out and buy 12 tube socks and sell them all as the ‘other’ sock? Shoot, buy some ketchup and tube socks and sell them as ‘the’ sock.

  12. Blue says:
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    Unbelievably I’ve had Ryan Zimmerman for EACH of the last three years.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You are a glutton for punishment.

  13. TheNewGuy says:
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    Fisters going over Scherzer in a crunch game like this? WOW….doofus call by the Tigers.

    Has had enough rest hasnt he, what 4 days? If he’s meant to be an ace surely he can manage that, look at what a true ace did last night on short rest (Kershaw).

    That said im happy cos im rooting for the A’s. Go A’s!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They still have to win two more games…

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        am not , at all , confident that straily can throw a quality start (by mlb standards) ,
        which we both know is not really a quality start .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hopefully the A’s can out hit them

      • TheNewGuy says:
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        @Grey: Then start Scherzer and Verlander!

        Leyland baffles once again.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I guess, but guys on short rest are a wild card, see Kershaw last night…

  14. J-FOH says:
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    Can you request World Series tickets on the gift registry? would it be wrong to ask for them up front?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Better than some of the crap we’re getting… I don’t want no more vases!

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Any platters? We’ve got so many of those in the cupboard.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thankfully, we registered somewhere that holds the crap and bankrolls the money… I’m pushing Cougs to trade in all the place settings and crap and get me a nice watch…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Oh, and we do have two gifts I love…Vitamix and a shaved ice machine…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hey, how is Drake’s new album? Any ideas? Pusha T’s?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: don’t listen to Drake and i heard some snippets of Pusha T’s on itunes and it was decent.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Wu Tang Forever is a’ight…by Drake…Just downloaded both…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: Have you listened to pusha t?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I downloaded it just now, haven’t listened yet… I like his past stuff…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: are you getting it off itunes?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Um…Yeah, that’s the ticket…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I’m too poor for all that

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I was being Jon Lovitz, the pathological liar… I didn’t buy them

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Simplejack day

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You going full Tehol?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA….wait are you calling me a Mambo? or is it Mimbo?….manbo?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Mimbo

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: very nice on the Lovitz, what site do you use for you music, you can e-mail if you want ;)

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      A friend of mine gave me access to one of these things you need to be invited to and you don’t earn invites for like a year…Long story-short, I don’t have any invites or I’d give you one… Sorry…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: that is the nicest no I ever got

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha, well, I felt bad…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I’ll still give u spicy garlic pickles

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha, thanks!

  15. costaricanchata says:
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    always look forward to drafting coco crips “on the cheap”
    i.e. well after guys like austin jackson .
    afraid that’s not going to happen in 2014 .

    (according to razzball : jackson #21 / crips #61)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, it worked this year, but Crips does tend to miss a bunch of games and this year he had more power than ever in his career

  16. OaktownSteve says:
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    First there was the old “get the breasts you’ve always wanted” (I looked into it…apparently they specialize in women). Now I’m getting AARP stuff. The internet thinks I’m an old tranny.

    Who’s going to smoke more during this game, me or Jimmy Leyland?

    Judge Strails dealing so far…knock on wood.

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @OaktownSteve:

      All these runners and few runs just the kind of thing that scares the heck out of me.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Yeah, feels like they’re wasting opportunities… I used to get funeral arrangements junk mail, I think someone thought I was dead…

        • OaktownSteve says:
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          @Grey:

          Good to see RedDog have good swings the last two days.

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @OaktownSteve:

            Too many ducks left on the pond though. Fister probably doesn’t go more than 6 with his pitch count. If that’s the case and the game is still close do you burn Scherzer or take your chances with shaky pen.

            Also, who is Pete Holmes and how did he get a show?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha, who is Pete Holmes, right? Is Straily making the Tigers look silly or what?

              • OaktownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                Judge Strails. The slider is the old billy baroo.

                My mom asked me a really good question this morning. Why is there an apostrophe in A’s? I don’t know.

                • OaktownSteve says:
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                  @OaktownSteve:

                  Miggy has no legs under him. A’s are going right at him. Healthy Miggy has 3 bombs and a mess of XBHs with the pitches he’s seen.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    There they are converting!

                • SteveNZ says:
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                  @OaktownSteve: Can only assume it looks strange without it, albeit grammatically incorrect.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  You always use an apostrophe when it’s a pronoun… A’la the Philly fans threw batteries at Mike Schmidt, Mike Adams and Mike Young. Those Mike’s got static from the audience.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Wait, I have that backwards… Oaktown Mom is right…Ha, should it be As?

                    • SteveNZ says:
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                      @Grey: Actually, I wonder if it’s a case of A’s being a contraction, rather than a pronoun…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I don’t think so, cause it’s Yankees, not Yankee’s…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      They’re abbreviating Athletics…Man, I’m stumped now…

                    • SteveNZ says:
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                      @Grey: That’s because Yankees isn’t a contraction. A’s could be construed as being one – the apostrophe signifies that there are letters missing.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh, I see what you mean… Like y’all…

                    • OaktownSteve says:
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                      @Grey:

                      When using a single letter in a plural form, one always uses the apostrophe, apparently.

                      Oakland A’s, Seattle M’s.

                      Mind your P’s and Q’s, Albright.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      There ya go…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Here’s an apostrophe question that I fluctuate back and forth with… Is O.co a pitchers’ park, pitcher’s park or pitchers park?

                    • SteveNZ says:
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                      @Grey: All three are correct in their own way, but for the sense I think you’re referring to, I’d use the second option.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, I agree… Petco is a pitcher’s park.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @Grey: if you were the one who was dead, why did you get funeral stuff. you can’t bury yourself after you’re dead.

  17. Juice_0321 says:
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    What are some of the best keeper league H2H settings you know of? Looking to add a dimension to our league to make it more fun.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Give me some examples of what you mean…

      • Juice_0321 says:
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        @Grey: We play OBP. I am motioning for OPS this next season. We keep 8, of which 3 are franchised players who can be kept more than three years, all other keepers have a shelf life of a maximum three years. They must be kept as either franchise, traded or sent back to the player pool. We also have a max of 25 moves per season. I am motioning for more. I was also thinking of adding holds and expanding rosters a bit to make MRP relevant. I am asking if you know of any cool settings that are not typically conventional in leagues.

        Thanks,

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I don’t like Holds… I prefer to use an auction and just increase player salaries by $5 per year and lose the maximum 3 years thing…

          • Juice_0321 says:
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            @Grey: Interesting.

            • Juice_0321 says:
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              @Juice_0321: So no cap on keepers either? Or keep it at 8 players? I would love to keep Sonny Gray for a $1!

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I’d put it at 5 players… I prefer players to be able to get free for others… You have Gray which is great, but it’s no fun if someone builds an entire team that can run the table for a few years in a row…You want everyone to have a chance every year, it’s parity…

  18. Sherm says:
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    First of all, Grey, congrats on your nuptials and your championship this year. I got a 2nd in RCL with Beltre at third, so thanks for that call.

    In the other league, against my better judgment, it was Wright. Never again.

    And oh, off the third base topic, but I think Brandon Belt may finally come up to your wishful expectations of him next year. He became a monster in the 2nd half.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks, Sherm! IAgreed on Belt, the only thing that stinks is he has to deal with AT&T and lefties… Look at his splits…

  19. OaktownSteve says:
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    Alright Jed. C’mon Strails. Shut down inning and you get a Fresca.

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @OaktownSteve:

      Shut down inning been an A’s bugaboo all year.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Damn, gave it right back

  20. SteveNZ says:
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    I was going to say this before that HR, but am I the only one that thinks it’s total bullshit that Peralta is allowed to play in the playoffs?

    Yeah, I know the length of the ban allowed that – so change the ban so a guy misses the *whole* season.

    Right now, it kinda seems like he hasn’t really served any punishment at all.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I agree, it should’ve been the whole year… I also don’t love how the announcers have said things like, “He’s coming back just the way he left.” Hopefully he’s not, because he left on illegal drugs…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: I agree with Steve, it is bullshit. If Detroit goes all the way and Peralta ends up being the World Series MVP, wouldn’t that be a step backwards?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, it’s a stupid ruling… MLB tries to put these brings behind them quickly, but this is too quick… You don’t put him on the biggest stage you have…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: and this is why I love fantasy baseball better than regular baseball because reality can be a f**king nightmare

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha, yup

  21. costaricanchata says:
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    i’d like proof that all mlb players are being tested annually .
    i have lots of internet dollars that say that big papi hasn’t been tested
    in almost two years .
    it’s a political thing , y’all .
    good for baseball , yadda , yadda .

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @costaricanchata: Annually isn’t enough. In a lot of other sports, athletes can be tested at any time, without warning, in or out of competition.

      And you’re probably right…

  22. SteveNZ says:
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    Why are you bunting?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @SteveNZ: Well, OK. But don’t let me see you doing that again.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Ha!

        • SteveNZ says:
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          @Grey: I knew it would get them into trouble.

  23. OaktownSteve says:
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    4 HR reviews on replay for the A’s this year and in my opinion all calls wrong. I’ve always hated replay. No place in baseball.

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @OaktownSteve: Do they have special cameras, or are they just using the TV broadcast?

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @SteveNZ:

        What a nightmare

        • SteveNZ says:
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          @OaktownSteve: Yeah, a bad time for Dolittle to rediscover his midseason form.

  24. costaricanchata says:
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    well , he didlittle .

  25. costaricanchata says:
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    reddick … you sucker

  26. costaricanchata says:
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    up until that point ,
    was hoping vogt could summon
    the ghost of gene tenace .

  27. OaktownSteve says:
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    I hate baseball

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Doolittle…Indeed

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        I cannot believe I am going to another game five against the Tigers and Verlander.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          That’s the good news…I like their chances there, too… Verlander’s gettable…

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            Chance to exercise some daemons. Brutal loss today.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Agreed, and now it’s down to one game…

    • Big Magoo says:
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      @OaktownSteve: I feel for you, man. Tough loss. Game 5 should be a barnburner though. I think they’ll pull it out. That team has heart.

  28. costaricanchata says:
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    hope this little “glitch” doesn’t screw up the
    soon-t0-be much ballyhooed
    gray / cole match-up .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      yeah, hope not

  29. SteveNZ says:
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    So with the season on the line, the Rays turn to Hellickson. Yikes.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Might be the most bonkers decision in a postseason of a few already

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: And so it was thus.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, exactly

  30. OaktownSteve says:
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    Albright are you good luck? I have an extra for Thursday and I need a good luck charm

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @OaktownSteve:

      I usually take my kids but it’s going to be shithouse and my friends are all bad luck

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wow, I’m honored, and would love to go, but with the wedding three weeks away, there’s no way I can pull it off… Thanks for asking though, if it were any other year, I’d be hopping in my car right now…

      • Hondo says:
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        @Grey: 9 months from now will leave us in a lurch(Not the Addams Family dude)You cannot have sex on your Honeymoon,because I need another Goldy prognostication for next year and advice.Deal?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’m not going anywhere, whether I lose my virginity or not…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        Hey…just to be clear I would have required bona fides that you are an actual good luck charm.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha… Was just talking to Cougs about the offer… Why couldn’t you have Dodgers playoff tickets?

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            I will if it’s an A’s Dodgers WS. By the way I was half joking, I knew you were tied up but if you swung it I have my tix and access to more. It’s going to be tremendous up here

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, I’ve never been to a baseball postseason game and am dying to go…

              • OaktownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                It’s as good as advertised

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I bet it is…

  31. David Reynolds says:
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    This is just a test.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It worked

  32. SteveNZ says:
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    I remember you saying once we couldn’t be friends because I’d never watched Blazing Saddles. Attempted to remedy that on the flight to Fiji, but the film wouldn’t run properly.

    Settled for Bullit instead. Pretty cool…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wow, great movie… You hadn’t seen that either? C’mon, Steve! On a side note, Gravity was amazing but I’m not sure it’s there, guessing it is…

  33. costaricanchata says:
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    one pitch and you screw up the whole game ?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @costaricanchata:

      just drill this fraud in the ribs .

  34. SteveNZ says:
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    Dear oh dear.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  35. costaricanchata says:
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    magoo had been playing a pretty damn good game of chess ,
    up until that wild-pitch fiasco .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      True

  36. costaricanchata says:
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    how many Steves in this room gonna be grabbing
    breslow next year , when they think no one is looking ?

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @costaricanchata: Took him first overall in my Players Who Went To Yale league.

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @SteveNZ:

        haha !

        just for the record ,
        are you still holding reddick on your roster ,
        even though the season ended two weeks ago ?

        • SteveNZ says:
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          @costaricanchata: For reasons known only to me, yes I am.

  37. costaricanchata says:
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    hope this jackazz walks in a run
    and the entire sawx dugout
    comes out and shoots “arrows” towards the roof .

  38. SteveNZ says:
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    Don’t think the Rays can have too many complaints can they? They’ve been pretty untidy right through the series.

    • royce! says:
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      @SteveNZ: Yeah, and no matter what happens, they still landed Myers for Shields…might not have helped too much in this series but even if Price is gone in 2014 they still look solid. Go NERDS!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They looked pretty lifeless in this series, but they had a tough matchup… Hopefully the Tigers/A’s winner beats the Sawx…

  39. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    1. no love lost cliche was created by some idiot, as it’s opposite is the one that makes sense.
    2.”Classic buy low, sell high, which is different than when you stand outside of the supermarket selling pickles. That’s a Vlassic buy low, sell high.” Some funny ass shit right here.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Ha, agreed 2. Thanks!

  40. Wake Up says:
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    Do you think everybody named Brian Wilson is really good at one thing, but really, really bad at all other things?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wow, interesting question… I’m gonna say yes… Does everyone with the name Dave Thomas like burgers?

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: After tasting his, I’m not even sure that he does…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I do like their Frostys…

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: Never took you for a McGrath fan?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, him and Bret Boone have mad style…

              • Wake Up says:
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                @Grey: I feel like this is the part of the show where someone is supposed to tell you, “Don’t do it!” Run for the hills. You are making a big mistake. Everything changes. You’ll no longer be a free man. Look what happened to Rudy for God’s sake! Listen to that voice in your belly button, pleading with you to, just dance like you do when no one is watching. But, also listen to that voice in your gut that is saying, “Don’t do it!”

                PS Was this helpful?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  First, how did you know I had a voice in my belly button? Can you hear it? Rudy got lucky, if I can be that lucky, I’ll be doing all right… Or I’ll get a divorce, my Dad’s had 4 of them so he can pass along divorce tips…

                  • Wake Up says:
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                    @Grey: I’ve always assumed that we all have belly button voices…

                    I was just joking, of course…giving you the man’s man… that you’ll get at your BP… (I’ve never been good at the man’s man blabbity blah)

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You keep man’s manning me and I’m going to chew tobacco and get a hooker!

                  • Wake Up says:
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                    @Grey: haha…you expect me to believe that you’ve never dipped into a dipping ho-ah?
                    *cancels wedding gift idea*

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha…Actually, never have, I just smoke it…

  41. Bott9th says:
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    Grey – you helped me rank #1 in my second year of fantasy baseball, thanks dude!

    A question I’ve got for another league I’m in.. I’m a little thin on SP.. Should I consider trading David Price for Patrick Corbin and Gio Gonzalez? Would you do that? Or should I see if he’ll deal GGonz and Mat Latos instead?

    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem, congrats! I’d take Price in the first trade…I’d take Latos and Gio in the 2nd…

      • Bott9th says:
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        @Grey: good stuff – I’ll keep that in mind!

        Thanks again :)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  42. Adam says:
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    I’ve also got a feeling that Alvarez is gonna be next year’s Chris Davis/Encarnacion/Bautista. The power is already there, he just has to improve a little bit (possibly vs lefties?) to boost his counting stats and AVG into “elite player” levels. I could pretty easily see .260/80/43/110 from him as early as next year. That PIT lineup will only be getting better.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’ll need to luck into an average better than .260… The thing is, if he gets off to a hot start and can hit 40+ homers, then pitchers will pitch around him at which time his average will go up because he lays off pitches or his average will really tank because he’ll chase…

  43. Trini says:
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    Where’s Scott Rolen?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      In a Waldo sense? Dodging thrown batteries in Philly maybe…

  44. SteveNZ says:
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    Cardinals are truly greater than the sum of their parts. Going to be tough to beat..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They really are… Carpenter does nothing and here comes Freese… Wainwright is a beast too…

    • royce! says:
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      @SteveNZ: living in San Diego it’s hard for me to say this, but GO DODGERS! I’m sick of the cards. Probably just jealous, but still, go dodgers.

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: @royce!: I have a Dodgers cap and a Cards cap, so I’m covered either way.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Go dodgers!

  45. JoeC says:
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    I bet on Longoria (again). And he burned me (again). Yes, he was the 6th-best third baseman, but I expected him to be the 2nd or 3rd-best at worst.

    I am absolutely sick of him. Can’t see myself overcoming that loathing to ride the Longo Train again. Maybe I’ll feel different by the time the Ides of March arrive, but right now, he feels dead to me.

    Also, screw you, Detroit!

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