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Top 20 catchers1st basemen and 2nd basemen are in the books.  What a strange, glorious trip it’s been!  Though not really.  Today, the top 20 shortstops for 2013 fantasy baseball get to shine.  Hmm… Actually, most of these won’t shine.  They’re cloudy with a chance of crapballs.  To be a bit more specific, the top ten shortstops were about equal with the 2nd basemen through the top 10, then they actually go a bit deeper than the 2nd basemen.  Yes, shortstops are deeper.  Barely.  Mike Aviles was 18th overall for 2nd basemen, here he doesn’t even make the list coming in 22nd.  Either way, it’s ugly.  Okay, enough of the hubbub on the tomfoolery.  To recap, this final ranking is from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater with my comments.  The Player Rater allows me to be impartial while looking at how I ranked them in the preseason.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 shortstops for 2013 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

1. Ian Desmond – My preseason projections aren’t that far off for Desmond.  Few runs here, a little average there.  I say this to illustrate how pee poor shortstops are.  Desmond was ranked 6th in the preseason and, with around the same level season, came in a tie for first.  Yes, a tie.  More on that below.  Preseason Rank #6, 2013 Projections:  68/20/77/.264/18, Final Numbers: 77/20/80/.280/21

1B. Jean Segura – For the first time that I can remember we have a dead heat in the top of the rankings for a position!  Yes, that’s as exciting as end of the season rankings get.  Sue me for the 1/127th of a penny I made when you clicked on the page.  I loved Segura in the preseason and told you to draft him everywhere.  If you didn’t, you weren’t paying attention.  Segura would’ve finished clearly in first too if Rudy didn’t use some of his black magic to make sure he didn’t reach 75 runs.  Is it okay to say black magic?  Or should it be African-American magic?  Preseason Rank #16, 2013 Projections:  75/5/50/.282/32, Final Numbers:  74/12/49/.294/44

3. Elvis Andrus – Really surprised he only hit four homers and not my projected five.  Kidding.  I nailed this one, and he would be ranked seventh if the shortstops could’ve found four more top names to fill themselves out.  I’m trying to make all of these recaps about this year and not next, but Andrus will only be twenty-five next year and could be ready to steal 45+ bases.  How he hasn’t scored 100 runs once in his career is slightly baffling.  Not baffling enough to spend another whole sentence on.  Doh!  Preseason Rank #7, 2013 Projections:  91/5/60/.285/35, Final Numbers:  91/4/67/.271/42

4. Troy Tulowitzki – I think this is an organizational edict –> Tulo can’t stay healthy, so they asked him to stop stealing.  He wasn’t unsuccessful a handful of times.  He had one steal in one attempt.  I wouldn’t be surprised if that one steal was a botched hit and run too.  Oh, and I have no idea what an edict is.  Fooled you into thinking I was smart!  Preseason Rank #1, 2013 Projections:  83/25/98/.288/7, Final Numbers:  72/25/82/.312/1

5. Hanley Ramirez – Somehow he hit .345 this year.  Well, I know how.  He was lucky.  He had a .363 BABIP, which would’ve been top ten for all of baseball.  He also managed a homer in just about every four games.  The explanation of that was the 21.1% HR/FB.  So he was hitting line drives for hits and every time he hit a fly ball it left the park.  Hanley was pretty much the luckiest man to play baseball since Lou Gehrig retired.  The sad thing for shortstops, because we always have to bring it back to shortstops and how pathetic they are, he only played a half a year and ranked in the top five.  No one with less than 60 RBIs should be top five for anything.  Preseason Rank #15, 2013 Projections:  69/17/79/.253/14, Final Numbers:  62/20/57/.345/10

6. Jed Lowrie – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

7. J.J. Hardy – I said this a lot in the 2nd basemen recap and mentioned it again in Desmond’s blurb, but to belabor the point.  Hardy’s projections aren’t 15 ranking spots off.  Maybe 5 spots.  So if you jumped out of a DeLorean in March and told me Hardy would’ve had the season he had, I’d say, “Okay, so I’ll rank him 17th instead, and this is the info you bring me from the future?  Did they outlaw lotteries?  The stock market?  Anything I can actually make money on?”  Preseason Rank #22, 2013 Projections:  68/20/79/.244, Final Numbers: 66/25/76/.263/2

8. Ben Zobrist – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

9. Alexei Ramirez – We talked about the dearth of RBIs in the 2nd basemen recap.  Today, it’s runs.  There were only 9 guys who scored 100 runs this year.  11 guys in 2012.  30 (!) guys in 2007.  35 guys in 2001, ending with your mom’s lover, Corey Koskie.  Alexei had 572 ABs in the three hole or higher this year and stole thirty bases and hit .284, and he got 68 runs?!  White Sux, I know.  But c’mon.  Preseason Rank #24, 2013 Projections:  66/12/70/.259/12, Final Numbers:  68/6/48/.284/30

10. Brian Dozier – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

11. Andrelton Simmons – Not a bad year for him, considering he popped out of Sigourney Weaver’s belly in March.  Preseason Rank #19, 2013 Projections:  56/5/67/.272/15, Final Numbers:  76/17/59/.248/6

12. Everth Cabrera – EverCab could have the key to translate stats for all PEDs users.  He should’ve hit one homer and instead hit four.  So, Barry Bonds hit 18 homers in 2001, which is less than Domonic Brown hit pre-All-Star break.  Unless Brown was also found to be doing PEDs then Brown hit 6 homers.  Now, Chris Davis hit 13 homers this year which beat Brady Anderson’s Orioles record of 12.8 homers.  See, how easy it is to make sense of PEDs-tainted records?  Preseason Rank #17, 2013 Projections:  45/1/22/.240/35, Final Numbers:  54/4/31/.283/37

13. Asdrubal Cabrera – Had a pretty brutal year that proved further that his ‘breakout’ in 2011 with 25 homers, wasn’t a breakout season as much as a ‘get out of here, you liar’ season.  Granted, a ‘get out of here, you liar’ season doesn’t roll off the tongue quite the same.  He also dealt with some bad luck that lowered his average, but this is a team sport and the Indians did well–Oh, who cares, Asdrubal sucked.  Preseason Rank #10, 2013 Projections:  77/17/86/.272/14, Final Numbers:  66/14/64/.242/9

14. Jose Reyes – When he had 4 homers and 8 steals at the All-Star break, I tried to get people to trade him away.  After the ASB, 6 homers and 7 steals.  Yay.  Again with less emotion:  yay.  Omar Infante pfft’s at that 2nd half.  Preseason Rank #2, 2013 Projections:  110/12/60/.285/40, Final Numbers:  58/10/37/.296/15

15. Stephen Drew – This was his healthiest year since 2010, which allows us to see the upper reaches of his talent — 13 homers and a .250 average.  Martin Prado called and said, “I pity you, fool.”  Preseason Rank #14, 2013 Projections:  42/15/55/.262/2, Final Numbers:  57/13/67/.253/6

16. Erick Aybar – I had high hopes for the Angels offense coming into this year, especially Aybar as its main benefactor.  The good news is I didn’t spend one-point-seven trillion to have my hopes crushed like Arte Moreno.  Preseason Rank #12, 2013 Projections:  92/9/62/.292/24, Final Numbers:  68/6/54/.271/12

17. Zack Cozart – He wasn’t Billy Hamilton in the minors, but he did swipe 30 bags one year.  Now Cozart is looking as fleet of foot as Pedro Alvarez.  Dusty Baker or his trusty toothpick must’ve put the kibosh on Cozart’s running game.  Phone rings.  “Hello, this is Cozart’s running game, who is this?  Mark Prior’s arm?  You wanna have a word with me?”  Preseason Rank #18, 2013 Projections:  72/17/81/.255/10, Final Numbers:  74/12/63/.254

18. Jhonny Peralta – Wanna know how bad the shortstops were?  Exhibit A.  A guy that missed 50 games ranked in the top 20.  Oy gevalt!  Preseason Rank #27, 2013 Projections:  56/15/70/.245/1, Final Numbers: 50/11/55/.303/3

19. Jimmy Rollins – And a guy that turned 50 years old this year ranked in the top 20 too.  Preseason Rank #5, 2013 Projections:  88/19/61/.248/24, Final Numbers:  65/6/39/.252/22

20. Yunel Escobar – I’ve never embraced position scarcity, and the lack of shortstops doesn’t have me changing that.  I am embracing offense scarcity.  I want you to write on the blackboard, “All hitters are scarce and pitchers are abundant and I will not waste chalk.”  Preseason Rank #26, 2013 Projections:  78/8/57/.261/5, Final Numbers:  61/9/56/.256/4

204 Responses

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hehe

  1. TheNewGuy says:
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    Wow that was a show put on by the Dodgers last night. Just shows what happens when all your main guys are locked in. Boy that Puig looks good though, dont think he’ll necessarily be overrated come draft day. And Hanley too, tbh hes looked like the old Hanley all year when in the lineup, I could see a return to top 5 player next season.

    As for the A’s -Tigers game the other night, boy that was a pitching matchup for the ages. Verlander and Gray were absolutely dominant, throwing smoke along with those utterly ridiculous hammer hooks (best curves in the game along with Waino?). OaktownSteve you mustve loved it, had to be a walk-off win in typical A’s fashion too. Veey interested to see where Grey ranks Gray next year!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s gonna rank higher if he keeps pitching like that

  2. TheNewGuy says:
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    Oh and shortstops were utterly utterly (butterly) horrendous. 5 good ones (6 if you include Ever Cab) thats it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  3. Josh Lynch says:
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    Am I missing something, or did starlin castro defect to cuba already this offseason. He not going to be better than zack cozart??

  4. Josh Lynch says:
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    Am I missing something, or did starlin castro defect to cuba already this offseason. He not going to be better than zack cozart??

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Is he?

  5. Bill says:
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    Thoughts on Castro? Not the dictator.

    • Hondo says:
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      @Bill: @Bill: What do you call a cross between a penis and a potato?

      A dicktater.

      OK-I’m done.

      • TheNewGuy says:
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        @Hondo: Could be a cross between a penis and a homer too,.

        Cust Kayin.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Why?

      • Pops says:
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        @Grey: because they can

  6. David says:
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    Hi Grey, great job this year. 12 team 7×7 with the extra categories being obp and slg. Can keep 4 hitters for next year. Which 4 from: Cespedes, Sandoval, Puig, M. Carpenter, Craig, Marte, A. Jackson, A. Garcia ? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Puig, Carpenter, Marte, Cespedes

  7. RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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    Hanley’s OPS in the playoffs so far this year: 1.802. Yes, small sample size, etc. But the guy is a monster and seems to be back to caring about playing again, which is critical for him. If he stays healthy, he’ll easily put up first round numbers next year, IMO. He’ll probably be getting drafted in the 2nd round, though. It’s the same ole Tulo gambit. But I kinda think I’m going to be owning him in a few leagues next year.

    • TheNewGuy says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice: Agreed. he basically was that guy this year, his OPS was (scrathes head, bites nails, cracks fingers) holy crap…over .1000 . In half a year. Doesnt run as much anymore but his numbers can still be ridiculous.

      It’s a 2nd rounder for potential 1st round value (possibly top 5 player value). I think hes worth the gamble too.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, bit of a small sample size…

  8. royce! says:
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    Segura really returned to SAGNOF in the second half — only had one HR, and his OPS fell to .583– which makes sense because only 3 of his 12 HR were not Just Enoughs.

    More importantly, I watched the Top Chef premiere. I agree that it looks like it’ll be a good season, at least cooking-wise. Annoyed that they seem to have permanently adopted that dizzying spin pan that they use in the judges’ table. So…who you got?

    • Grey

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      Yeah, Segura’s not a huge power threat… I know, I hate that swish pan… Also, they seem like they have to add something every year, like the chefs listening to the judges, but I like that gambit… I’m taking Carlos… Who you got?

      • Big Magoo says:
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        @Grey: Beat me to the punch. They’ll give Carlos every chance to succeed based on his resume. Probably the early front-runner.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I don’t think he’s going to win, but it’s the safest choice to get to the finale… I like going with the safest… He’ll be cooking for the championship… I think the Asian girl could win…

          • TheNewGuy says:
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            @Grey: Cookings for sissies!

            • JoeC says:
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              @TheNewGuy: Sissies gotta eat too!

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey: I agree with you, as well as Magoo’s comment below. Carlos clearly has a good story and already having a Michelin star and a successful restaurant can’t hurt. Also, unlike the winner, he didn’t just replace the meat in some dish from the cuisine of his roots.

        Hard to deduce who will win from one episode, but since you are already betting on Carlos and Shirley, I’m going to go with Carlos and Aaron. I was going to go with Shirley as well but agreement is boring.

        I was astounded how many of the contestants were like “I’ve never cooked with [alligator/frog/turtle].” Did they not know they were competing on Top Chef in New Orleans? Assuming they weren’t all kidnapped and flown to NOLA, WTF else would you do to prepare for Top Chef in Louisiana? They chided Aaron for not thinking about how he could prepare fresh pasta for 100+ guests in the “swamp” (which appears to simply mean, “outside”), but no one was criticized for not thinking to learn a little about cooking the proteins popular in the region in which the show was set?!! That’s like someone competing in Seattle having not ever cooked fish. So, I think that everyone who said that they hadn’t used those proteins before should have just been axed on the spot.

        I agree about the new thing where the contestants get to watch the deliberations- hopefully the contestants paying attention to the deliberations won’t reduce the amount of spats that seem to occur while waiting to find out who’s getting the boot.

        • Grey

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          God no, we can’t reduce spats — that rule number one for reality TV… Hopefully, this adds more spats because people are hearing the cold truth and have a moment to blame other people, this will play more when there’s teams… Aaron had a ,lot to say, so that’s a good sign for him, and they have a hometown rivalry… Now we have a Razzball rivalry, I will be gone for two weeks in November due to my wedding, so can’t have spoilers…. I Yelped Carlos’s Michelin-starred place and the menu looks interesting and yummy but not expensive, I wonder if you need 3-stars to charge exuberant prices… Speaking of which, there’s a great documentary on Netflix about Michelin-starred places, you should check it out if you have streaming…

    • Big Magoo says:
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      @royce!: Carlos is probably the most accomplished chef on the show, and the only one with a Michelin star to his name. One of the early favorites. Sara seems to be a risk-taker, with the skill to pull that approach off. Carrie’s my dark horse. She doesn’t have the resume of most of the others, and her confidence seems a bit shaky, but there’s something about her. Really inventive first dish.

      Least likely to be the chef left standing? The Australian chick. Wearing daisy dukes and sandals into the kitchen? Smells like a ratings ploy. I’m not complaining though.

      • royce! says:
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        @Big Magoo: I agree with everything you wrote except for the Australian woman. It’s still a reality show…

        • Big Magoo says:
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          @royce!: I meant that she was probably encouraged to show a little more skin than she normally would. Hard to believe that a serious chef would enter the kitchen like that, especially in a serious competition…

          • Grey

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            Encouraged by her friends or her ego… Standing out on a show like that gets you further in the game… Note how villains or characters always make it far…

          • royce! says:
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            @Grey: Two weeks to get married?!! you must’ve written some epic vows…Seriously though, good luck on everything. The time leading up to the wedding is one of the hardest parts about being married and it doesn’t even occur during the marriage. Where are you honeymooning, if you don’t mind me asking?

            Mexique does look good. I need to get to Chicago one of these days.

            Is the documentary Three Stars?

            • royce! says:
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              @royce!: How did this reply get here?

            • Grey

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              It is Three Stars, yeah… It’s solid…Not earth shattering… Undefeated was amazing, but nothing to do with food… We’re going to Hawaii… We were talking about Thailand and other parts unknown, but we really didn’t want to travel for a full day and just wanted to lay on the beach somewhere… Mother Cougar is handling all the wedding stuff so it’s been a breeze so far…I don’t have a huge say in things, but I don’t really care…

              • royce! says:
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                @Grey: Cool, I’ll check it out, but it might be a while, as I need to watch Breaking Bad…Good call on Hawaii- you all don’t have kids so you should be able to find another time to take more adventurous trips.

                Sounds like you have a good attitude about the wedding. My mother in law had a huge influence on our wedding, which ultimately makes sense because she paid for it, but we had to battle to prevent her from cheesing it up. For example, she wanted a wedding band and we were against it and instead wanted to pay a friend from Seattle to fly out to DJ (even though he had never DJ’d before). She gave in and he killed it, and actually has DJ’d a few wedding since. The best way to think about it is that it’s a party for your families, not really for you.

                • Grey

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                  Yeah, I’m pretty laid back with all of it… She wanted to do a few cheesy things — like high heel-shaped cupcakes — and I was like those are stupid and I think they got pushed away, but even if they’re there, I don’t really care, whatever… The band and food we were able to choose, and that’s all I really cared about, so I’m fine, I think…

              • Big Magoo says:
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                @Grey: Which island? If you visit Maui, Sansei has great sushi… Mama’s Fish House is worth the drive too…

                • Grey

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                  Going to Honolulu… Is that Maui? I’m prepared! Any other recommendations?

                  • Big Magoo says:
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                    @Grey: Nah, Honolulu is on Oahu. I’m not as familiar with that area. We stayed on Maui for our honeymoon three years ago. Just did the day trip to Oahu to visit Pearl Harbor. There’s a lot to do in Honolulu though. Have fun!

                    • Grey

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                      Ah, okay… As you can tell I’ve done a whole lot of research…

  9. Bhoner says:
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    Hi Grey. Keeper question for a 5×5 Head to Head, 12 team league.

    Can Keep 5 and cost (draft round) in parenthesis. Best options are:

    Matt Moore (4)
    Greinke (4)
    Beltre (6)
    Bruce (8)
    Freeman (10)
    Hashi (11)
    JoFer (12)
    Bailey (14)
    Yadier (15)
    Leonys (21)
    Hyun-Jin (22)

    Thanks for the help.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Bruce, Beltre, Freeman, Fernandez, Hisashi

  10. Joe says:
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    Do you think Hanley or Tulo will be ranked higher in next year’s pre-season rankings?
    Also, what do you think of E-Cab for next year? How much lower will he be ranked than guys like Reyes and Segura?

    • Grey

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      For me or for others? Everth will be significantly lower for me…

      • Joe says:
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        @Grey: I guess a more straightforward question would be which one would you rather have next year, Hanley or Tulo?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Tulo

  11. OaktownSteve says:
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    The Castro and Costello routine above is funny.

    But really, Starlin Castro’s season definitely bears mention here. He was the Razzball #32 overall. Not a knock on Grey’s ranking. A lot of folks had him as a third rounder. But he ends up the 23 ranked shortstop even on this horrendous list just ahead of Pedro Pokemon. And Castro played in 161 games. He scored 59 runs and drove in 44 in 705 PAs? Dropped from 25 steals to 9? Holy cow that’s awful.

    • Grey

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      He was completely dreadful….It was one of those seasons that was so bad, that he could be out of a job if his March/April isn’t good this year… Your season has to be really bad to go from an All-Star to out of a job in under 14 months… The counting stats I don’t hold against him, but zip on everything else and he seems like he doesn’t want to be there… Not a great combo…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        There was a domestic abuse or rape charge that disappeared. Hush money I’m sure. Seems like there might be character issues.

        • Grey

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          Yeah, which goes out the window if the guy performs, which (part 2) he hasn’t in 12 months now… The Cubs sound fed up with him…

    • TheNewGuy says:
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      @OaktownSteve: Enjoy the game the other night Steve? Pitching duel for the ages that one, great stuff.

      Now to solve Anibal today!

  12. Gator says:
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    An overreaction moving Gray ahead of Moore on my keeper list after the playoff games last week?

    • Grey

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      They’re the same price? Then yeah

  13. Big Magoo says:
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    Tulo and Hanley missed a bunch of games and still finished in the top 5. Lowrie at #6 with 15 homers and 1 steal. Zobrist was a fantasy bust and still finished at #8. These MI posts are making me depressed.

    As I mentioned last week though, Desmond is one of four players in all of baseball who has gone 20/20 or better in each of the past two years (Trout, McCutchen, and CarGo are the others). He looks like a solid third rounder next year.

    • Grey

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      I can’t imagine drafting him in the 3rd round, but he’s made the case…

  14. Jay says:
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    So I’m trying to gauge my keepers for next year. Our league allows for offseason trading so I have some options to explore.

    I dealt away quite a few picks for next yers draft. my current keepers are Votto, Longo, Stanton, Machado and Strasburg. So i traded away picks and now do not pick until the 12th round…yuck.

    So i was looking to deal Longo for some picks. I got an offer to move Longo for Verlander but I don;t like it that much. Assuming i move longo for picks who would you keep in his place…
    Grienke, Hamels, Lee, or Heyward

    Thanks dude

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Greinke

  15. costaricanchata says:
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    so , the A ‘s game is the only one NOT on tbs ?
    KISS MY AZZ .

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @costaricanchata:

      am concerned about parker , but ,
      straily’s last outing has me worried more .

    • Grey

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      That’s lame…

  16. costaricanchata says:
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    coco crips doubles to the gap to start the game .
    that’s what i like to see .

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @costaricanchata:

      why they don’t bunt him over to 3rd ,
      by bunting to 3rd , is beyond me .

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @costaricanchata:

        @ Grey :
        yeah , my mlb package want’s 4.99 to watch it on my computer .
        luckily , my kid has direct tv .

        what’s MORE lame is … not capitalizing on crips lead-off double to
        take the lead IN detroit .

        • Grey

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          Yeah, agreed

  17. costaricanchata says:
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    if seth smith is going to keep this up ,
    maybe he should be batting in front of cespedes .

    • Grey

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      He does get hot for stretches…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cespedes hasn’t been bad though

  18. papasmurf says:
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    I might be high on smurf mushrooms but I think Simmons could be a borderline top-5 SS next year.

    The good contact rate but crappy BA suggests to me it’s a matter of batting approach, which is not uncommon among young hitters, and luck. In any event, an 18.5 LD% shouldn’t equate to a sub-.250 BABIP. The popup rate is high but last yr with a similar popup rate and lower LD%, his BABIP was above .300, so it’s not to blame.

    The 17 HRs is quite impressive (his HR/FB% was actually below average). It would be nice if he could steal more bases but that’s wishful thinking.

    So if he hits .285 with 20 homers and 80 runs 70 RBI and 10 SBs. That ain’t too shabby given the dearth in offense.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @papasmurf:

      yeah .
      maybe Grey can explain the disconnect between
      fantasy and real-life analysts , ‘cuz more than just the
      braves homers are calling him one of the best SS in baseball .

      • Grey

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        Is there a disconnect?

    • Grey

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      Those numbers would easily be top five, if he can get there and Fredi rigthfully puts him at the top of the lineup and not 7th or 8th, then I could see it for reasons you mention… Worst case scenario, the power looks for real…

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        @Grey: his def is one of the best in baseball, according to a lot of metrics. that may be the disconnect.

  19. OaktownSteve says:
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    Jesus I’m so nervous you’d think I was playing. Calm down Oaktown Steve!

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @OaktownSteve:

      was just thinking that maybe my heart was too old to
      continue being an A’s fan .
      that’s plain and simple bullshizz … but i was thinking it .

  20. costaricanchata says:
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    crips steals 2nd base .

    bunt to 3rd …..PLEEEE-ase .

  21. costaricanchata says:
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    is it to soon to get a prayer dodecahedron going
    for a gray / cole match-up ?

    • Grey

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      Prolly too early, but that would be amazing…

  22. costaricanchata says:
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    see that .
    kiwiSteve comes back from vacay
    and reddick starts producing .

    • Grey

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      Just to give Steve a hard time…

  23. TheNewGuy says:
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    Chata and OaktownSteve must be lovin things so far!

    • Grey

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      It’s tied…

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        those 2 runs that crips didn’t score
        are going to come back to haunt them .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hope not…

  24. costaricanchata says:
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    yeth thir !!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh my goodneth!

  25. anarchy burger says:
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    yo grey- theres a horse in the 8th race at suffolk downs today named rio grey. im gonna have to throw a couple bucks on it. wish me luck…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Good luck!

  26. papasmurf says:
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    I traded two ham-and-eggers for ECab after the suspension.

    Keeper? (I also have Simmons. Planning probably keeping ECab then drafting Simmons as backup)

    I would prefer not to keep but the problem is I must keep 5 players but too many meh candidates.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They’re pretty much a coin flip next year… I could see keeping EverCab, he’s not that exciting…

      • papasmurf says:
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        @Grey: Hopefully he can steal 35. In my league, there won’t be anyone clearly better than him available for draft. Maybe Lowrie Zobrist and Asdrubal… but I can’t say they are clearly better than ECab.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Bonifacio? Or you mean strictly shortstops?

  27. costaricanchata says:
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    faces of the tiger’s fans .
    they’re looking for blood .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They’re just hungry, they live in Detroit…

  28. gareth says:
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    Looks like the cardinals pirates series is transpiring as I predicted in the comments last week. Game 5 should be a white knuckler for fans of both franchises………

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  29. gareth says:
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    The tigers actually limped home to the al central that title in the last week of the season and I’m not suprised they took that form into the postseason.

    That A’s roster (platoony tune jigsaw offense, excellent pitching) seems pretty well equipped for the post season. Good luck to them. Now my indians are out I’ll be rooting for them and their GM. billy beane deserves a world series win. He’s a Shoestring genius.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agreed… It’s the year of the underdog, I can feel it…

  30. gareth says:
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    Heres to a Pirates A’s underdog world series.

    Cole v gray in game 3!

  31. Kid A says:
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    The good money says that Balfour would do a “Midnight Express” de-tongueing of Vmart if given the chance.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Kid A: I have a feeling Balfour fights like a spider monkey and has a cast iron jaw.

      • Kid A says:
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        @J-FOH: Skinny guys fight til they are burger.

        Hey, wait a minute… get over to the football side and answer my question, damnit!

        I’m over a barrel.

        Thank you.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Is that before after yelling Billy with his chest to the glass?

  32. J-FOH says:
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    Dodgers throwing Kershaw on three days rest. Are they crazy or just asking him to be a man? I say man up an kick their ass

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Really dumb move… They can win the Series in spite of Mattingly… Not because of…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: would you trust Nolasco in a close out game?

        • Wake Up says:
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          @J-FOH: No! Of course not…I think it’s the right move…and you’ll have Nolasco in the pen ready to come in…win now…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          If it meant not throwing Kershaw too soon which could backfire then they have no one for a close out game, yeah, I would… Nolasco for 3 innings, then long men than MRs then Jansen…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I would hate to travel all the way back to Atlanta to close out. I like the play its’ Old School Yo’s

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I’m just worried if they shoot their top gun now and the Braves get back in it then you’re down your ace and in a predicament…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: true, but Kersh is nails….oK I’m super nervous. Life would be easier as a Padre fan knowing you are expected to lose so you never have to worry

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, I just hear, “Never pitched on short rest before” and I get very nervous too…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I’m super nervous too, pooped a half dozen times already today.

                    BTW, thanks for the tips to do the web cast. I was nervous until I took some of the good cough medicine and mixed a little tequila in my tea. You could still hear me coughing in the background, but baby’s mama called that my commitment to the job

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Nice! So it went well? Where’s the link? I gotta listen…Maybe..>it’s about football isn’t it?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I e-mailed it to you

  33. Kid A says:
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    Cole tossing game 5. Great for him, and horrible for the chances of getting him cheap next year.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agreed

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Kid A: what about Wacha, “Hey Grey, love the pre-season ranks, great stuff, I just got done with my 50th mock and I got Wacha in the 6th, did I over pay?”

  34. Wake Up says:
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    I like being aggressive with Kershaw…def could backfire…but I like taking the fight to them and trying to win now…different story if Nolasco hadn’t given up 17ER in his last 13IP…not to mention Greinke is a pretty decent bullet left in the tank…

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @Wake Up:

      How does the schedule work out for them if they clinch tonight with Pitty and Saint Lou going to game 5? When would the next series start? Basically seems like they are sacrificing a chance for Kershaw to go games 1-4-7 in an NLCS. I can kind of understand the thinking in a way though. A Kershaw-Garcia match up you almost say to yourself it’s a lock and if you can lock a ticket to the next round and not leave anything to chance, you’re for sure tempted to do it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s the one thing I don’t mind about it — Greinke is left in the tank, and that’s good…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @OaktownSteve: @J-FOH: @Grey: Comes down to confidence level in Nolasco…mine is lower than Atlantis…

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Wake Up: I thought Atlantis flew to the stars?

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @J-FOH:

            You’re thinking of Icharus.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @OaktownSteve: I thought that was in upstate new york

  35. gareth says:
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    Cole, gray, wacha, salazar, cingrani, harvey (pre TJ), teheran, miller…….the list goes on.

    And some People wonder why offense was down this year !

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      True

  36. gareth says:
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    Pitty and saint lou sound like nicknames for a colorful aunt and uncle.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA! Hilarious

  37. OaktownSteve says:
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    I had my volunteer day at my kids school for lunch. Every Monday. Couldn’t get out of it. Had to make it 1 without hearing a score and then watched on DVR. Getting from East Oakland to West and back without getting any news I felt like Odysseus trying to get home. Scylla, Charybdis, Sirens and more. I lashed myself to the mast of my Hyundai.

    Let’s close it out tomorrow and not bring Scherzer back into the picture.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha…Sounds like when I tried to watch Tyson-Holyfield in London for the ear biting fight… I didn’t realize how prophetic it was that I was covering my ears for ten hours…

  38. gareth says:
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    the braves have just hired Carlos Quentin. Their plan is for him to dye his hair blonde and enlist a skeleton costume wearing posse to attack zack grienke if he is the game 5 starter.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hehe

  39. OaktownSteve says:
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    This Boston Amish thing is obnoxious.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It really is

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s like they’re not happy unless they look like douchebags…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: like the Affliction wearer…at least they are warning…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          True

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        Buchholz looks like a creepy extra from a bar scene in Thelma and Louise

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Or The Accused

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @OaktownSteve: that’s funny if i was around here yesterday i was gonna compare buckholesz to some type of bar scumbag. Knife wielding rapist-type. Read it later see somebody beat me to it.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            People are in the newest post

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: *goes to shave beard*

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, who are you, Kevin Youkilis?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I don’t feel greek

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Hehe

  40. Wake Up says:
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    If I have to look at someone else’s skanky beard…I’ll look at Arod’s…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Or Santa

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @Wake Up:

      Nice

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wake Up: you can look at mine anytime ;)

  41. SteveNZ says:
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    Holy Carl Crawford.

    But Freddy Garcia? Really?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I know, right? That’s what I was thinking… Dodgers are pushing Kershaw and you go with Garcia?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: It’s like saying I take trout with the first pick and the next guy takes Braun

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah… Crawford!

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Grey: garcia’s barely rosterable for a non-playoff team.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              It’s a questionable decision by them…

  42. SteveNZ says:
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    That’s not a great time for bad Rodney to show up.

    • royce! says:
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      @SteveNZ: He’s getting squeezed. I’m amazed that even though pitch trax shows so many of balls have been on the edge of the plate, none of the guys on TBS are mentioning it. Am I missing something? Two of the four balls to Middlebrooks should have been strikes, at least.

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @royce!: Ah. I’m only following on Gameday on my phone, so I’m not really getting the full story.

        • royce! says:
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          @SteveNZ: Guess it doesn’t matter. Gives the people who actually showed up to a TB game a more exciting finish.

    • royce! says:
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      @SteveNZ: Have you seen Green Flash’s Green Bullet out there? It’s a triple IPA with New Zealand hops, so I figured they’d be distributing it in the NZ.

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @royce!: Ohhhh – I’ll have to keep an eye out for that.

        I’ve been drinking nothing but Fiji Bitter for the last week, so it’s time to get back to some IPA…

        • royce! says:
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          @SteveNZ: You should drink some water, dude, or at least a little orange juice.

          • SteveNZ says:
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            @royce!: Hah. Been drinking water – it’s important to stay hydrated in the tropics ;-)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Great time for Hot Crawford…

  43. SteveNZ says:
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    Wow. Sometimes you just never know where a run is going to come from.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

  44. J-FOH says:
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    Carl Crawford: 2 Atlanta: 0

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @J-FOH: he forgot what year it was.

      • J-FOH says:
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        @goodfold2: 4th rounder next year, when do we get the first question?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m not really adventurous, but I’ll check out the link and maybe put Cougs up on the tip… If it passes the stache test…

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Looks like a recipe for a broken ankle.

        Or some Deliverance-type experience.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

  45. josh says:
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    Evereth Cabrera’s PED use that he was suspended for occured before 2012. His numbers this year were clean.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      How do you know?

  46. SteveNZ says:
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    Not quite going to plan for the Dodgers…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Here they come…

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: *Sad trombone*

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Waaaah-wahhhhh

  47. costaricanchata says:
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    j-up catches 2 fly balls ,
    so i guess he does contribute .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hehe

  48. J-FOH says:
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    UUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Hey thats not funny, thats f**kin awesome!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          It really feels like it’s their year

          • costaricanchata says:
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            @Grey:

            slow your national league-biased roll .

            • costaricanchata says:
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              @costaricanchata:

              but , for sure , enjoy your moment .

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I need some playoff tickets

            • costaricanchata says:
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              @J-FOH:

              you’re asking a guy who’s never been ?
              stub hub .
              pay up .

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Me too!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: change the daquiri to playoff tickets? can you put them on the wedding registry?

  49. goodfold2 says:
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    shame that’s how people will remember carpenter, as the guy who knocked braves out this year (they were gonna lose this later anyway). Carpenter had a very useful 2nd half.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Eh, he was a bit iffy…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: i must’ve got lucky with him during the time he was on my 3 or 4 rosters in holds leagues. I do know for a fact I didn’t pick him up until I took those teams over, so it would’ve been shortly after the start of august.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gotcha

  50. costaricanchata says:
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    that’s one wet toup

  51. SteveNZ says:
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    Uribe is like a Gimp teams bring out at playoff time.

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