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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-587930</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J. Upton or H. Pence over the rest of the season? (I&#039;m struggling in batting average, but lead all other offensive categories.) Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. Upton or H. Pence over the rest of the season? (I&#8217;m struggling in batting average, but lead all other offensive categories.) Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-459158</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ey kinda confused, how is bautista the twelfth best third baseman at a very thin position (veryyyyy thin), but hes the 18th best of? In my mind that tells me that you think michael young is considerably better than a guy like victorino, because you have young 3 spots ahead of bautista and flying hawain 2 spots behind bautista. Are you really that down on outfield this year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ey kinda confused, how is bautista the twelfth best third baseman at a very thin position (veryyyyy thin), but hes the 18th best of? In my mind that tells me that you think michael young is considerably better than a guy like victorino, because you have young 3 spots ahead of bautista and flying hawain 2 spots behind bautista. Are you really that down on outfield this year?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-448401</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grey, any chance you can do a rankings for OF&#039;s into RF, CF, LF? That&#039;s the way my league is setup, but I&#039;m sure how common that is.  

If you can, Thanks, if you can&#039;t, I guess Thanks anyways...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey, any chance you can do a rankings for OF&#8217;s into RF, CF, LF? That&#8217;s the way my league is setup, but I&#8217;m sure how common that is.  </p>
<p>If you can, Thanks, if you can&#8217;t, I guess Thanks anyways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-434519</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Grey - having a hard time separating A. Rios, Stubbs and BJ Upton in a keeper league and I need to keep only 1 of them!  Leaning toward Upton but all 3 provide the same package.  Splitting hairs or does one stand out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Grey &#8211; having a hard time separating A. Rios, Stubbs and BJ Upton in a keeper league and I need to keep only 1 of them!  Leaning toward Upton but all 3 provide the same package.  Splitting hairs or does one stand out?</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-427936</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-427925&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lenny&lt;/a&gt;: Typo, thanks for catching it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-427925" rel="nofollow">Lenny</a>: Typo, thanks for catching it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So in the top 20 overall, Kemp and Holliday are before Crawford, but in the top OF&#039;s, you put Crawford ahead of them.  I love your rankings, but I&#039;m a little confused.  Can you explain Grey? Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in the top 20 overall, Kemp and Holliday are before Crawford, but in the top OF&#8217;s, you put Crawford ahead of them.  I love your rankings, but I&#8217;m a little confused.  Can you explain Grey? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: cubfever7</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-392202</link>
		<dc:creator>cubfever7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ 101MPH and Grey:

That Coletti thing was fascinating. It seemed SO out of character for him  to go off like that. He was in the Cub org. for many years before heading West and was known for being a good egg (Like Danny Noonan). I came to the conclusion that the two paisanos (Torre and Ned) orchestrated a good cop bad cop deal so that Joe could stay clean in the clubhouse with the team. Kemp&#039;s work in the OF was abysmal and he did seem to have a little BJ/Hanley-itis in the hustle department. Something needed to be said. Who else would have done it? Blake DeWitt?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 101MPH and Grey:</p>
<p>That Coletti thing was fascinating. It seemed SO out of character for him  to go off like that. He was in the Cub org. for many years before heading West and was known for being a good egg (Like Danny Noonan). I came to the conclusion that the two paisanos (Torre and Ned) orchestrated a good cop bad cop deal so that Joe could stay clean in the clubhouse with the team. Kemp&#8217;s work in the OF was abysmal and he did seem to have a little BJ/Hanley-itis in the hustle department. Something needed to be said. Who else would have done it? Blake DeWitt?</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-390804</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grey, question, I have Car-go and Matt Holliday in my outfield, and Phillips and Gonzo in the infield. Who should I target in the first round with my seventh pick? Should I target another outfielder to complete the outfield with a pick in the bottom 10 of top 20 or do I go for pitching. The elite 3rd and SS are keepers and I traded Joe Mauer for Holliday, but I gave up my second round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey, question, I have Car-go and Matt Holliday in my outfield, and Phillips and Gonzo in the infield. Who should I target in the first round with my seventh pick? Should I target another outfielder to complete the outfield with a pick in the bottom 10 of top 20 or do I go for pitching. The elite 3rd and SS are keepers and I traded Joe Mauer for Holliday, but I gave up my second round.</p>
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		<title>By: StackmanJones</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-387139</link>
		<dc:creator>StackmanJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grey, you&#039;re the cool band I&#039;ve been listening to for years that my 

friends haven&#039;t heard.  (&quot;Interpol&quot; never got me Jose Reyes on the 

cheap)  I keep waiting for your writing to run dry but it 

never does so how long before someone buys you up and you 

become passe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey, you&#8217;re the cool band I&#8217;ve been listening to for years that my </p>
<p>friends haven&#8217;t heard.  (&#8220;Interpol&#8221; never got me Jose Reyes on the </p>
<p>cheap)  I keep waiting for your writing to run dry but it </p>
<p>never does so how long before someone buys you up and you </p>
<p>become passe?</p>
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		<title>By: Arrec Bardwin</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-385273</link>
		<dc:creator>Arrec Bardwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wand Wagon/McCutchen or Choo or Phil Hughes and Clay Buchholz in a 16 team h2h points league. Most of the top 100 pitchers are owned so streaming isn&#039;t a strategy. Current Keepers are Votto/Tulo/Zimmerman/Brett Anderson/Neftali Feliz/Shaun Marcum/Mat Latos/Phil Hughes/Buchholz.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wand Wagon/McCutchen or Choo or Phil Hughes and Clay Buchholz in a 16 team h2h points league. Most of the top 100 pitchers are owned so streaming isn&#8217;t a strategy. Current Keepers are Votto/Tulo/Zimmerman/Brett Anderson/Neftali Feliz/Shaun Marcum/Mat Latos/Phil Hughes/Buchholz.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-385010</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it&#039;s settled. After your short little blurb on Heyward I have finally determined my 5 Keepers going into the season:

Votto, Tulo, Lincecum, Holliday, Heyward

I had considered Josh Johnson, Martin Prado, Jayson Werth &amp; Adam Dunn throughout the offseason instead of Heyward/Holliday.

Can&#039;t wait for the season to get started!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s settled. After your short little blurb on Heyward I have finally determined my 5 Keepers going into the season:</p>
<p>Votto, Tulo, Lincecum, Holliday, Heyward</p>
<p>I had considered Josh Johnson, Martin Prado, Jayson Werth &amp; Adam Dunn throughout the offseason instead of Heyward/Holliday.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the season to get started!</p>
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		<title>By: Dingo</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-384761</link>
		<dc:creator>Dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384527&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;skeezy&lt;/a&gt;: No one likes a nitpicker, skeezy.  Also, I believe it&#039;s called parallel structure when you use the same term several times to illustrate a common theme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384527" rel="nofollow">skeezy</a>: No one likes a nitpicker, skeezy.  Also, I believe it&#8217;s called parallel structure when you use the same term several times to illustrate a common theme.</p>
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		<title>By: skeezy</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeezy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said &quot;caveat&quot; 7 times between rankings 10-13 including 3 times for Hunter Pence. Thesaurus....use it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said &#8220;caveat&#8221; 7 times between rankings 10-13 including 3 times for Hunter Pence. Thesaurus&#8230;.use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-384495</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384486&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rob Rock&lt;/a&gt;: His 2009 wasn&#039;t great either.

******THERE’S A NEW POST FOR FOLLOWUPS.******]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384486" rel="nofollow">Rob Rock</a>: His 2009 wasn&#8217;t great either.</p>
<p>******THERE’S A NEW POST FOR FOLLOWUPS.******</p>
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		<title>By: Swagger Jackers</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-384493</link>
		<dc:creator>Swagger Jackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So should I just keep Latos for $1 and forget Ethier at $10?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So should I just keep Latos for $1 and forget Ethier at $10?</p>
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		<title>By: wily mo</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/#comment-384491</link>
		<dc:creator>wily mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384400&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BKK&lt;/a&gt;: i&#039;ll pay money not to see it.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384446&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stephen&lt;/a&gt;: i get the risk-aversion.  i&#039;m not even criticizing it.  that&#039;s a strategy choice.  i&#039;m mostly just objecting to the idea that no good can come of drafting bautista (where he&#039;s going) under any plan.  i&#039;m more of a pure upside whore.  i just figure i can always patch over the craters.  it usually works pretty well.  last year, for example, i drafted chris davis as my starting 3B, but it worked out ok after i picked up bautista.

also maybe it should be noted that i&#039;m writing all of this on nyquil with a 102-degree fever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384400" rel="nofollow">BKK</a>: i&#8217;ll pay money not to see it.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384446" rel="nofollow">Stephen</a>: i get the risk-aversion.  i&#8217;m not even criticizing it.  that&#8217;s a strategy choice.  i&#8217;m mostly just objecting to the idea that no good can come of drafting bautista (where he&#8217;s going) under any plan.  i&#8217;m more of a pure upside whore.  i just figure i can always patch over the craters.  it usually works pretty well.  last year, for example, i drafted chris davis as my starting 3B, but it worked out ok after i picked up bautista.</p>
<p>also maybe it should be noted that i&#8217;m writing all of this on nyquil with a 102-degree fever.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grey,

Surprised no love for Bruce in the top 20. I know his 2010 wasn&#039;t GREAT by any means, but he came on in the second half and was hampered by a wrist injury in the first portion of the season. Plus, hes got outstanding pedigree and he has three 20 HR seasons under his belt before the age of 24. Sure, hes streaky like no other, but he has showed the skills, albeit in small doses, that made him Jason Heyward before Jason Heyward was Jason heyward (say that three times fast).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey,</p>
<p>Surprised no love for Bruce in the top 20. I know his 2010 wasn&#8217;t GREAT by any means, but he came on in the second half and was hampered by a wrist injury in the first portion of the season. Plus, hes got outstanding pedigree and he has three 20 HR seasons under his belt before the age of 24. Sure, hes streaky like no other, but he has showed the skills, albeit in small doses, that made him Jason Heyward before Jason Heyward was Jason heyward (say that three times fast).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Wily Mo: The Cruz comment was intended to say that a player with great minor league numbers can post good major league numbers too, but isn&#039;t destined to repeat the numbers again. There are a lot of variables. I am still not sure where I was trying to go with it. 

As for the link, &quot;He has good power and can turn on a ball while also hitting for average&quot; Good power is 20 to 30 home run power. Plus-Raw power would be the 30 to 40 home run power. Plus-Plus would be 40 to 50 home run power (like Mike Stanton is currently graded for). The article also states a large Home/Road split, but that is neither here nor there as Rockies get the same grip.

As for overall. I think Grey&#039;s projections are closer to reality (70/25/80/.240/5) than a line of 85/40/100/.260/5 or you know, Adam Dunn (who has put up the same numbers over and over again. Personally, I would rather draft conservatively on a high performance year, especially one that warrants red flags. Flags such as Brady Anderson&#039;s season, the lack of plus-power pedigree, all the power was pull-power (something I often read in Baseball America is a hitter being pull conscious and struggling), and it a short time of success. (~700 PA over a career, including minors, or ~5000 PA). Nevertheless, I like him more than Casey McGehee and would draft Bautista if he feel to a reasonable round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wily Mo: The Cruz comment was intended to say that a player with great minor league numbers can post good major league numbers too, but isn&#8217;t destined to repeat the numbers again. There are a lot of variables. I am still not sure where I was trying to go with it. </p>
<p>As for the link, &#8220;He has good power and can turn on a ball while also hitting for average&#8221; Good power is 20 to 30 home run power. Plus-Raw power would be the 30 to 40 home run power. Plus-Plus would be 40 to 50 home run power (like Mike Stanton is currently graded for). The article also states a large Home/Road split, but that is neither here nor there as Rockies get the same grip.</p>
<p>As for overall. I think Grey&#8217;s projections are closer to reality (70/25/80/.240/5) than a line of 85/40/100/.260/5 or you know, Adam Dunn (who has put up the same numbers over and over again. Personally, I would rather draft conservatively on a high performance year, especially one that warrants red flags. Flags such as Brady Anderson&#8217;s season, the lack of plus-power pedigree, all the power was pull-power (something I often read in Baseball America is a hitter being pull conscious and struggling), and it a short time of success. (~700 PA over a career, including minors, or ~5000 PA). Nevertheless, I like him more than Casey McGehee and would draft Bautista if he feel to a reasonable round.</p>
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		<title>By: BKK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BKK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384400&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BKK&lt;/a&gt;: 

edit I&#039;d pay...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384400" rel="nofollow">BKK</a>: </p>
<p>edit I&#8217;d pay&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BKK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BKK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384393&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony&lt;/a&gt;:  I pay money to see that!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384393" rel="nofollow">Tony</a>:  I pay money to see that!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384384&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wily mo&lt;/a&gt;:  if he hits 54 again i will eat my underpants....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384384" rel="nofollow">wily mo</a>:  if he hits 54 again i will eat my underpants&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: wily mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>wily mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384333&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stephen&lt;/a&gt;: hey, ain&#039;t no flame war.  i love all you guys.  grey has a smart, funny, beautiful moustache.  i just actually think bautista&#039;s better than people are saying.  

as for your post, i can&#039;t really figure out what to say about it.  i realize that bautista&#039;s power production last year is completely nonlinear with his minor league record and prior performance.  but that&#039;s not really inconsistent with what i&#039;m saying. 

i&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re saying about cruz.  that he was bad last year?  i thought he was awesome last year.  when he played.

...just ran across this BP article on bautista, which i think is a pretty fair rundown of the good &amp; the bad.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11886

key points: 

* changes do exist

* freakishly good home numbers 

* opponents likely to study him harder in the offseason

* somewhat susceptible to outside pitches - did have 9 homers out there (&amp; this was before the season ended) but also a lot of pulled grounders

this is basically what i&#039;m saying.  as pitchers contine re-booking him, picking him apart like a real slugger and painting the corners his numbers should become mortal.  but that&#039;s different from just turning back into the guy he was before.  i guess that could happen, but i would find it strange after he already carried the changes across one offseason.  

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384347&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony&lt;/a&gt;: if he hits 54 again, then you&#039;ll think he&#039;s &quot;alright&quot;?  tough crowd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384333" rel="nofollow">Stephen</a>: hey, ain&#8217;t no flame war.  i love all you guys.  grey has a smart, funny, beautiful moustache.  i just actually think bautista&#8217;s better than people are saying.  </p>
<p>as for your post, i can&#8217;t really figure out what to say about it.  i realize that bautista&#8217;s power production last year is completely nonlinear with his minor league record and prior performance.  but that&#8217;s not really inconsistent with what i&#8217;m saying. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re saying about cruz.  that he was bad last year?  i thought he was awesome last year.  when he played.</p>
<p>&#8230;just ran across this BP article on bautista, which i think is a pretty fair rundown of the good &amp; the bad.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11886" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11886</a></p>
<p>key points: </p>
<p>* changes do exist</p>
<p>* freakishly good home numbers </p>
<p>* opponents likely to study him harder in the offseason</p>
<p>* somewhat susceptible to outside pitches &#8211; did have 9 homers out there (&amp; this was before the season ended) but also a lot of pulled grounders</p>
<p>this is basically what i&#8217;m saying.  as pitchers contine re-booking him, picking him apart like a real slugger and painting the corners his numbers should become mortal.  but that&#8217;s different from just turning back into the guy he was before.  i guess that could happen, but i would find it strange after he already carried the changes across one offseason.  </p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-2/#comment-384347" rel="nofollow">Tony</a>: if he hits 54 again, then you&#8217;ll think he&#8217;s &#8220;alright&#8221;?  tough crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Dingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384133&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bigwormsherm&lt;/a&gt;: I don&#039;t think that even hard-core Mariners fans (like me!) would be that excited about Ackley for fantasy purposes.  Even in his prime, he&#039;s expected to be a guy who plays great defense and hits for strong average with lots of doubles.  Sort of like Brian Roberts but without the SBs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384133" rel="nofollow">bigwormsherm</a>: I don&#8217;t think that even hard-core Mariners fans (like me!) would be that excited about Ackley for fantasy purposes.  Even in his prime, he&#8217;s expected to be a guy who plays great defense and hits for strong average with lots of doubles.  Sort of like Brian Roberts but without the SBs.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384299&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;:   ya thats true, but from his previous years, its an outlier, if he does it again or even hits 40, then i&#039;d say he&#039;s an &quot;alright guy&quot;

still not going to be on any of my fantasy teams!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384299" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>:   ya thats true, but from his previous years, its an outlier, if he does it again or even hits 40, then i&#8217;d say he&#8217;s an &#8220;alright guy&#8221;</p>
<p>still not going to be on any of my fantasy teams!</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384245&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wily mo&lt;/a&gt;: There will be an overrated post on Bautista talking more about all of this.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384260&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;101 MPH&lt;/a&gt;: Nice breakdown of Matthew I&#039;m Kinda Gay.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384279&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;philosofool&lt;/a&gt;: Heyward missed time with an injury in 2010 and he batted all around the lineup for a bit.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384277&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RMM&lt;/a&gt;: He&#039;s in the next set.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384305&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cole&lt;/a&gt;: He&#039;s in the next list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384245" rel="nofollow">wily mo</a>: There will be an overrated post on Bautista talking more about all of this.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384260" rel="nofollow">101 MPH</a>: Nice breakdown of Matthew I&#8217;m Kinda Gay.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384279" rel="nofollow">philosofool</a>: Heyward missed time with an injury in 2010 and he batted all around the lineup for a bit.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384277" rel="nofollow">RMM</a>: He&#8217;s in the next set.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384305" rel="nofollow">Cole</a>: He&#8217;s in the next list.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Stephen: EDIT: I know the number of home runs in Bautista&#039;s seasons, aren&#039;t always based on a full season. The after projection on home runs, actually assume a full season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephen: EDIT: I know the number of home runs in Bautista&#8217;s seasons, aren&#8217;t always based on a full season. The after projection on home runs, actually assume a full season.</p>
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		<title>By: wily mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>wily mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384299&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;: yeah - to be clear, i&#039;m not advocating drafting bautista&#039;s 2010 stat line, like taking him third overall or anything crazy like that.  he&#039;s gonna decline.  nobody in baseball history has been able to hit 50+ consistently.  i&#039;m not nutty for him.  i&#039;m just nutty for him relative to the room.  i think there&#039;s reasons he did what he did, that the player changed and he&#039;s a solid power hitter now.  like i was saying yesterday - adam dunn at third base, more or less, is what i&#039;m going with.  

he does have substantial downside risk.  i&#039;m not saying he doesn&#039;t!  with only one year of track record you can&#039;t be positive he won&#039;t lose the handle again or some flaw won&#039;t be found.  he had surprise factor going for him last year.  pitchers are likely to gradually wear him down.  how much is hard to say.  could be a lot, could be a little.  

plus he was streaky.  the good streaks lasted a long time last year.  if next year he has a two-month slump instead of a one-month slump, i&#039;m sure i&#039;m going to hear some remarks.  which is fine.  i mean, maybe i&#039;m completely wrong.  it&#039;s possible.

all i&#039;m saying is, i do think he changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2011-fantasy-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-384299" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>: yeah &#8211; to be clear, i&#8217;m not advocating drafting bautista&#8217;s 2010 stat line, like taking him third overall or anything crazy like that.  he&#8217;s gonna decline.  nobody in baseball history has been able to hit 50+ consistently.  i&#8217;m not nutty for him.  i&#8217;m just nutty for him relative to the room.  i think there&#8217;s reasons he did what he did, that the player changed and he&#8217;s a solid power hitter now.  like i was saying yesterday &#8211; adam dunn at third base, more or less, is what i&#8217;m going with.  </p>
<p>he does have substantial downside risk.  i&#8217;m not saying he doesn&#8217;t!  with only one year of track record you can&#8217;t be positive he won&#8217;t lose the handle again or some flaw won&#8217;t be found.  he had surprise factor going for him last year.  pitchers are likely to gradually wear him down.  how much is hard to say.  could be a lot, could be a little.  </p>
<p>plus he was streaky.  the good streaks lasted a long time last year.  if next year he has a two-month slump instead of a one-month slump, i&#8217;m sure i&#8217;m going to hear some remarks.  which is fine.  i mean, maybe i&#8217;m completely wrong.  it&#8217;s possible.</p>
<p>all i&#8217;m saying is, i do think he changed.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Wily Mo: I hate to join this flame war, but I have a few things to say too. 

The difference between Carlos Pena&#039;s first 46 and Bautista&#039;s 54? Pena was a highly regarded prospect (#5 overall pre-2002 according to Baseball America) and showed multiple years in the minors of hitting mid 20 home runs in full minor league seasons (about a full month less than the majors). Also, Bautisita had on minor league season of 20 home runs, but shows ability to hit 25 home runs with poor average. 

I&#039;m not buying Bautista&#039;s 2010 season, the same way Nelson Cruz was not the same player last year as in his breakout year. Blame injuries, blame anything you want, Cruz still showed more power in the minors than Bautista ever had. 

You know what is great about the Brady Anderson comparisons? Anderson had very similar peripherals in his 50 home run season that he had in nearly ever other season. So before his 50 home runs, he was hitting anywhere between 13 to 21 home runs. After his 50 home run season he hit anywhere between 18 to 24 home runs. He did have a better strikeout to walk ratio than Bautista, but the main argument here is the number of home runs.

Bautista has the potential for a similar path. He hit anywhere between 13 to 16 home runs (24 being a high in the minors) and then hit 54 last year. What he does after is the basis for this debate. Will he regress to 13 to 16 home run range, or increase that range slightly as Anderson did. If that would be the case, he has the ability to hit anywhere between 18 to 27 home runs.

I know this isn&#039;t a scientific inquiry that FanGraphs would perform, but I do believe, that being conservative in predictions is better than being a Bill James and saying Chris Davis is going to hit .275 and 45 home runs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wily Mo: I hate to join this flame war, but I have a few things to say too. </p>
<p>The difference between Carlos Pena&#8217;s first 46 and Bautista&#8217;s 54? Pena was a highly regarded prospect (#5 overall pre-2002 according to Baseball America) and showed multiple years in the minors of hitting mid 20 home runs in full minor league seasons (about a full month less than the majors). Also, Bautisita had on minor league season of 20 home runs, but shows ability to hit 25 home runs with poor average. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not buying Bautista&#8217;s 2010 season, the same way Nelson Cruz was not the same player last year as in his breakout year. Blame injuries, blame anything you want, Cruz still showed more power in the minors than Bautista ever had. </p>
<p>You know what is great about the Brady Anderson comparisons? Anderson had very similar peripherals in his 50 home run season that he had in nearly ever other season. So before his 50 home runs, he was hitting anywhere between 13 to 21 home runs. After his 50 home run season he hit anywhere between 18 to 24 home runs. He did have a better strikeout to walk ratio than Bautista, but the main argument here is the number of home runs.</p>
<p>Bautista has the potential for a similar path. He hit anywhere between 13 to 16 home runs (24 being a high in the minors) and then hit 54 last year. What he does after is the basis for this debate. Will he regress to 13 to 16 home run range, or increase that range slightly as Anderson did. If that would be the case, he has the ability to hit anywhere between 18 to 27 home runs.</p>
<p>I know this isn&#8217;t a scientific inquiry that FanGraphs would perform, but I do believe, that being conservative in predictions is better than being a Bill James and saying Chris Davis is going to hit .275 and 45 home runs.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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