Comments on: Top 20 Outfielders for 2008

By: BaronVonVulturewins

BaronVonVulturewins — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:33:16 +0000

@Rudy Gamble: The irony of Holliday is that he helped in ways you didn't expect (steals) and not in ways you counted on (HRs/RBIs). So if you're a good manager, you'd already compensated for the areas you didn't expect him to help. In other words, pity the schmoes who got stuck with Holliday and Juan Pierre, won steals by 40, and finished 6th.

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:04:17 +0000

@BigFatHippo: Hehe

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:32:26 +0000

@Grey: Ha, good one. Typical Phillies game, no runs for Hamels. They'll probably go off as soon as he leaves the game. Gotta love that E-Trade baby, did you upchuck on your keyboard like that when you drank my Pina Coladas? I hope so.

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:16:13 +0000

@BigFatHippo: Synonym Container?

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:07:20 +0000

@Grey: “Nonsensical banter” I like that!

Word of the day, I’m gonna use it tomorrow. When my C tech starts his daily bitching I’ll say, “Don’t start that nonsensical banter with me, I’ll make you clean the toilets.”

That oughta confuse him enough to keep him quiet for hours. Got any more, what’s another word for “thesaurus”?

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:57:22 +0000

@BigFatHippo: Scooter was nonsensical banter punctuated with the occasional "Holy Cow."

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:52:43 +0000

@Grey: Yeah, Scully was hot. Duchovny probably hit that 5 times a day. Jack Buck's was poetry in diction.

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:44:22 +0000

@BigFatHippo: It's velvety, for sure. But Scully's pure lovely.

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:42:42 +0000

@Grey: Has there ever been a better voice than Harry Kalas?

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:37:30 +0000

@BSA: I do like the first prediction but keep in mind these are just simulated games. No way to measure the human element. Such as choking, I’m talkin to you Cubs……..

Simulated games? Who would take the time to watch one of these things? Next thing you know people will be drafting a bunch of baseball players, assembling a team, acting like they’re the manager and actually playing for money. Could you imagine anybody being that stupid?

Grey? Anybody?

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:58:20 +0000

@BSA: Okay, got a chance to read it all. You know what I find despicable? Announcers who find the need to become a part of the story. Why am I watching Fox pregame show and I'm hearing about McCarver? How is this schmohawk the story? The story should be how McCarver isn't a good color man and he's on Fox A team.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:22:49 +0000

@BSA: I hadn't. Thanks for the link. @and1mcgee: Guerrero has the bonus of being a known -- you know you're going to get 90/25/95/.300 -- what those numbers mean to your team is what you need to ask yourself. As we see from above, he would come in outside the top 20. Probably in the 30 to 35 range. re: Wildcards -- They're all in pretty different situations, so I would need to break them down.

By: and1mcgee

and1mcgee — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:14:05 +0000

<== very curious about how low Guerrero will be ranked for ’09. Also curious about the ’09 rankings of: Jay Bruce, Chris Dickerson, Ryan Church, Juan Pierre, Milledge, Dukes-types. I know none of these are top-20 dudes, but still curious… Carlos Quentin for Fantasy MVP ’09 baby!

By: BSA

BSA — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:09:13 +0000

@Grey: Yeah, can’t wait for Friday night. I already bite my nails and now I have to live through 100 pitches in 5 innings from DiceK.

Did ya read Tom Hoffarth’s piece on McCarver/Manny comments?
Interesting to see how Manuel will have his pitches manage Manny’s at bats and considers Furcal the Ace up the sleeve.
http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/archives/2008/10/karros-on-manny.html

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:48:51 +0000

@BSA: "What was nice about the XBox Virtual was they represented the way the Rays have been all year. " Dooode, your crackers, ya know that, right? Somebody get this guy a Sawx game.

By: BSA

BSA — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:44:18 +0000

@Grey: "Oh yeah that other league is on," says the obnoxious Red Sox fan. What was nice about the XBox Virtual was they represented the way the Rays have been all year. Early bump in the road and then a late inning rally from the offense. What will make the series fun is that has historically been Boston's style of play.

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:23:40 +0000

@Grey: Good idea. Once I figure out all the player Point Shares, I’ll assign each draft position a Point Share Value. Then you can take their Actual Value – ADP Value to determine whether they over/under/met expectations.

Baron’s probably right that Matt Holliday underperformed based on his draft position but most 1st rounders will. If you look at the final top 10 on ESPN Player Rater, only 5 were 1st round picks. So 5 are automatic disappointments…

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:20:03 +0000

@BSA: I thought Boston.com might give a slanted prediction. Instead they gave a fully endorsed xBox prediction. Nice. BTW, there's baseball tonight.

By: BSA

BSA — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:12:25 +0000

A neat idea/ virtual prediction about the Sawx/Rays.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/10/virtual_rayalit.html

Something fun with one more night of no baseball.

Hippo will be happy after the first prediction.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:11:21 +0000

@BaronVonVulturewins: BTW, this is why Rudy does his Point Shares http://razzball.com/2008-fantasy-baseball-player-rater-%E2%80%93-%E2%80%9Cpoint-shares%E2%80%9D/

He should have his new Point Shares soon. I wonder if there’s any way to account for expectations vs. production.

EDIT: Cuz.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:30:20 +0000

@BaronVonVulturewins: These rankings are simply the ESPN Player Rater http://games.espn.go.com/flb/playerrater. I don’t necessarily agree with their order, but it’s about as neutral of a ranking as I can use for my recaps. Sorry, that should’ve probably been made more clear.

Re: Rios – I can’t get near my mirror because I have 30,000 Gregg Jefferies rookie cards stacked in front of it.

By: BaronVonVulturewins

BaronVonVulturewins — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:41:12 +0000

Oh, no you didn’t — you did not just rate Matt Holliday as the #1 OF.

Did you happen to notice his 88 RBIs? No, not 188 — Eight-Eight! You know who had more RBIs than that? Here’s a partial list, edited for shock value:

Jose Lopez
Ryan Garko
Raul Ibanez (a lot more! Like, 18 more! That’s a whole crappy MI!)
Jose Guillen
Benjie Molina
Troy Glaus
Jhonny Peralta
James Loney
Did I mention BENJIE MO-PUCKY MOLINA!!?!

Oh, but he stole 29 bases! And his average is so high! Yeah, because THAT’s why I drafted him eighth overall — for his sparkling small-ball game. Hey Matt, we’re going to bat you lead-off this year! Feel free to work on your hit-and-run skills.

Holliday was a Supercalifragilisticexpidisappointment. There are about ten players on the list above that I wish I’d had instead of Holliday, starting with Ryan “Brawny” Braun.

Worst thing is, he won’t even be discounted next year.

Also: Grey — I think you should inscribe that Alex Rios* projection on your mirror, so you can see it everyday when you wake up, and think about what it is that you did.

*Will be discounted. And I’ll be back. Oh yes, I’ll be back.