Comments on: Top 20 Closers for 2010 Fantasy Baseball

By: cubbies299

cubbies299 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:32:06 +0000

@Grey: What if it were just Pujols for Ubaldo/Braun? I already have Votto at 1B, Stewart @ 2B, and Wright @ 3B with an outfield of Quentin/Bruce. Beckett's already kept, so it's not like my staff's in trouble. Iuno, I think I should stay Pujols to anchor the possible avg issues of Stewart, bruce, and quentin

By: brett

brett — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:30:34 +0000

@cubbies299: Either leave, talk some sense into your league mates or do the same thing that guy's doing. If nobody wants to listen when you complain about ethics, consider it fair game and try to one up him.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:55:41 +0000

@cubbies299: Doesn't seem like a trade worth making.

By: cubbies299

cubbies299 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:43:01 +0000

@Grey: I think some people got better as the league went on whereas some guys just stayed the same or got worse... Now the strong prey on the yadda yadda natural selection BS. Either way, the league is nice for a lot of reasons, except that shiz like this is exasperating. By the by, is there any way you trade the royal Pujols and Fcord for Braun and Ubaldo

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:12:56 +0000

@cubbies299: If it's long tenured why are other owners so bad at trading to give away those guys?

By: cubbies299

cubbies299 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:02:23 +0000

In the past week, my league-mate has exploited piss-poor owners in the league to acquire Kinsler, Miguel Cabera to go along with his current assured #1 pick of Hanley. He’s traded irrelevant 8th and 9th rounders and keepers to secure these trade ups. I’m tired of coming home scared every day that this guy’s fucked up the league more… Should I just leave it? IT’s a pretty long tenured league

By: cubbies299

cubbies299 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:00:14 +0000

By: Eddy

Eddy — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:08:32 +0000

@Grey: All right I get what you're saying.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:50:33 +0000

@Eddy: Huh? I wrote a sleeper post about both. You read what I said in their blurbs when I ranked them. I just don't think that outfield needs either. Take Ibanez and take a sleeper somewhere else. Or a Stubbs type way later in like the last round. Lind and and Cruz already have minor risk, you don't need Bruce or CarGo too.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:46:15 +0000

@Grey: So I assume you're not a fan of the hype building up around these two?

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:37:53 +0000

@Pat: Hehe @Eddy: Neither? Bruce.

By: bostonaccent

bostonaccent — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:32:54 +0000

@GTS: Quick roundup of 2009 (124 pitchers with saves…)

1 save (46), 2 saves (22)
Some of these relievers gave you a freebie, like Jason Bulger 6-1/3.56/1.16/68/1, and some just left a dollop of save on their turd season (thanks Micah Owings).

3-9 saves (19)
Thornton, Hughes, Wuertz, oh my! These guys beat having to roster Guthrie or Cahill. Even the dregs in this group were giving you a few Ks, even if they tied you to the post.

10+ saves (37)
Grey’s preseason top 20 were all here somewhere, unless their arms fell off (Ryan, Devine). But the 25+ club also had Franklin, Aardsma, Hoffman, Rodney, Street, Soriano, Bailey, Nunez and Frank-Frank.
Wait another round. Take another bat.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:32:47 +0000

@Grey: So let's say you currently have an OF drafted of Lind, Granderson, and Nelson Cruz. The 10th or 11th round comes up ad both Jay Bruce and CarGo are on the board. Who do you pick?

By: Pat

Pat — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:27:17 +0000

Your Matt Capps and all other SAGNOF closers’ prediction:

’2010 Projections: Saves’

Almost made me fall off my office chair! Thanks Grey

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:26:38 +0000

@GTS: In a ten team league, there's less of a need for a top closer.

By: GTS

GTS — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:24:07 +0000

Grey – I’m in a 10-team league with 3 starting closer spots (daily lineup league) 6×5 (extra OBP for hitting). I feel like I need to spend extra money to get one of the top closers such as Joe Nathan in order to do well. Last year I drafted Nathan, F-Cord, and danced around with my 3rd (started with Matt Crapps). Anyway, I feel like I need at least one stud instead of a handful of mediocre. Thoughts?

By: nate marcum

nate marcum — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:40:36 +0000

@Grey: Thanks! I felt Broxton was helpful regardless if he got the job or not…hell, we had Wang that year and Broxton nearly k’d more than him. I am thinking taking a shot at marmol and take the whip hit all the while racking up K’s.

Listen, er read, this though…Wandy…taken. Stewart….taken. Sanchez…taken. Ubaldo…taken.

no Razzleepers to be had…..guess I will just have to see who you suggest next.

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:26:12 +0000

@nate marcum: That worked out with Broxton, but it's pretty ballsy move to take an MR when you can't switch out guys without a DL move or demotion. I'd just draft a donkeycorn to go with Broxton and hope for the best. Then if you can sneak a brain freeze in for cheap, do that as well.

By: nate marcum

nate marcum — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:14:33 +0000

@Grey: I guess it all depends on when the player is up for bid. For instance, we randomly select each of the MLB teams and go down the opening day rosters of the team as they were drawn. (minus keepers, obviously) The draft is after the season starts due to the rules stating that it must be a player on the opening day roster. With so many keepers, the price of the top tier players is pretty ridiculous. I would guesstimate that Nathan would go for around $5, or 10% of total cap. I guess another good possibility is how I got Broxton...draft a middle reliever that I can feel comfortable in knowing he will help lower whip, era, and throw in a couple junk w's with a chance of closing the next year...Maybe Bard in Boston? maybe motte in StL? any suggestions?

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:56:49 +0000

@Baron Von Vulturewins: Yeah, 4 out of 4 craptoads is bad luck. But if you grab Lidge, Jenks, Nathan and Dotel, you may have 4 outstanding closers. Very unpredictable those closers, them. @Eddy: Yeah, they're in the works. Just had to get through these rankings posts.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:47:47 +0000

Grey it’s been a while since we’ve had a schmohawk post, you got any planned on the horizon?

By: Baron Von Vulturewins

Baron Von Vulturewins — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:32:15 +0000

@Grey: Only because I made it an insane point of pride to finish near the top in saves even as my whole team went down. It’s like deciding you’re going to lose five pounds while you’re on the Hindenberg.

I don’t have the heart/stomache to run the actual numbers, but I do think Crapps — or, rather, Crapps x 4 — sank me in ERA and WHIP. One SAGNOFer won’t, but four — or some dribbling parade of schmoes — just might.

By: really the real Tom, for real

really the real Tom, for real — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:29:24 +0000

@MrPittsSox: No BJ, nothing that romantic.

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:19:27 +0000

@airlifting: No, I meant the iPod. There's still hope it doesn't work out, right? @Steve: Sure, and consider your nose punched.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:16:55 +0000

@Grey: In the 18th round or thereabouts?

By: MrPittsSox

MrPittsSox — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:16:01 +0000

@airlifting: tampod* @Grey: I knew you were a contrarian investor @really the real Tom, for real: You traded J Upton to a douche for a douche? Did he at least give you BJ?

By: airlifting

airlifting — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:59:37 +0000

@Grey: iPad*

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:37:59 +0000

@Jason Collette: Hey, I also shorted Apple stock at $20 in 1998, so you never know. Down with Bailey and the iPod.

By: Jason Collette

Jason Collette — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:34:58 +0000

I think you’re selling Jenks, Bailey, and Street short. I’d take the last two over K-Rod, Aardsma, and Marmol myself. Props on putting Valverde in the Top Ten where he belongs though.

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:22:49 +0000

@matthole: Around the 8th round. End of the top 100. @nate marcum: How much does a Ntahan go for in your league? Depending on that answer, I'd probably just go with two closers. @Cain Fan: Depends what your team looks like, who's available besides closers, but I wouldn't probably take a closer for a round or two. There's got to be some decent value going back into the draft.