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It feels like yesterday the baseball regular season started.  You wrote “I heart baseball” in permanent marker on your arm, then you met a girl who wrote “I heart guys who heart baseball” on her arm, then, during sex in September, you screamed out “I love you, Chris Davis!” and now you don’t have baseball or a girlfriend, unless your girlfriend was Bill James.  C’mon, calendar, make like a soldier and turn to March.  The only cure for the post-baseball season blues — recapping the preseason top twenty lists and being hand-fed Doritos.  First up, Cool Ranch and our preseason Top 20 Catchers for 2013.  It’s important to look back before we look ahead to 2014.  To paraphrase the one and only B-Real, “How do you know where you’re at, if you don’t know where you’ve been? Understand where I’m coming from?”  It wouldn’t be fair for me to preseason rank the players, then rank them again in the postseason based on my opinion, so these postseason top 20 lists are ranked according to our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater.  It’s cold hard math, y’all!  Please, for the love that all is holy, don’t ask me if this is for next year.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 catchers for 2013 fantasy baseball and how they compared to where I originally ranked them:

1. Mike Napoli – Showed a bit more in the counting stats department in Boston than I expected.  His mom showed a bit less nip.  A push?  P to the erhaps.  Preseason Rank #9, 2013 Projections:  64/23/77/.242/2, Final Numbers:  79/23/92/.259/1

2. Wilin Rosario – Really not very far from my preseason projections, but five spots higher in the rankings.  What does that mean?  Catching position is a real wasteland.  Like New Jersey.  Actually, that’s not fair.  Offense is a wasteland.  Like Jersey.  Preseason Rank #7, 2013 Projections:  58/25/75/.252/3, Final Numbers:  63/21/79/.292/4

3. Yadier Molina – Had a chance for a number one ranking, but an injury derailed him and Yadier Yadier Yadier.  Preseason Rank #12, 2013 Projections:  58/13/68/.295/6, Final Numbers:  68/12/80/.319/3

4. Jonathon Lucroy – Seriously, look at the projections vs. the end of the season numbers and tell me it makes sense these guys are ranked so much higher than where I had them in the preseason.  Don’t literally tell me, I can’t hear you.  I’m writing and you’re reading.  Preseason Rank #10, 2013 Projections:  61/16/76/.272, Final Numbers:  59/18/82/.280/9

5. Victor Martinez – I got a secret for you.  No, you don’t have to lean in closer.  I wrote up these end of the season rankings last week, then filled in the end of the season stats on Monday.  I tell you this now because V-Mart was 3rd and Yadier ranked 5th last week.  Goes to show you that a week can change everything for catchers because they’re all very close in value with none of them really standing out.  Preseason Rank #6, 2013 Projections:  82/15/105/.307, Final Numbers:  68/14/83/83/.301

6. Carlos Santana – Total crapshoot as to which catcher will be first each year.  It’s a guessing game that Carlos Santana will win one of these years.  This year he came about six homers short of winning.  Preseason Rank #2, 2013 Projections:  79/26/94/.259/3, Final Numbers:  75/20/74/.268/3

7. Buster Posey – I told you not to draft him.  I wrote a Buster Posey overrated post about not drafting him.  I didn’t draft him.  Did you?  Oh.  Sorry about that.  My condolences.  Preseason Rank #1, 2013 Projections:  74/25/97/.309/1, Final Numbers:  61/15/72/.294/2

8. Matt Wieters – One of these years he’s going to luck into a .275 average and be the number one catcher.  This was not that year.  Preseason Rank #3, 2013 Projections:  71/24/85/.264/2, Final Numbers:  59/22/79/.235/2

9. Jarrod Saltalamacchia – Salty is the first catcher from these rankings that sat on waivers for most of the year even though he put together a decent season.  Salty will also be the first catcher ranked this high that won’t have anywhere near this good of a ranking next year.  Salty’s BABIP was over .350 and his K-rate was north of 30%.  Those two don’t make for great upside moving forward.  Preseason Rank #18, 2013 Projections:  38/17/53/.217, Final Numbers:  68/14/65/.273/4

10. Jason Castro – Here’s our first illustration of punting catcher.  You could’ve had Castro off waivers as late as July in most single-catcher leagues.  In my RCL Expert league, I owned Salvador Perez and Jason Castro for the year.  Their Frankenstein numbers were 60/13/77/.308.  I won that league.  Do you see how pointless it is to draft a catcher?  I didn’t just win because of my pitching.  My hitting carried me and I didn’t have a legit catcher.  Repeat after me, punt catchers.  Ah, Simon didn’t say repeat after me.  You’re out!  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 63/18/56/.276/2

11. Salvador Perez – In all my preseason ranting and raving about how much I like Perez, there was one thing I forgot to research:  his abuelita’s medical history.  If I would’ve known Luz was about to start playing kick the can, I would’ve lowered his preseason ranking.  Speaking of Luz, my housekeeper, Maria, was at my place the other day and I asked her where the other girl, Consuela, is.  Due to my poor Spanish, the conversation goes like this:  “Where’s Consuela?  Donde esta?”  Maria says something and I think I hear, “She’s in the army?”  Maria says something else.  I’m like, “She’s at the army surplus store in Watts, California?”  Finally, Maria pulls up a picture on her iPhone of Naomi Watts.  “She’s at Naomi’s?”  Maria smiles, “Si, she cleans her place.”  My housekeeper name drops!  When I then said to her, “I wonder if Consuela is telling Naomi Watts that you’re at Grey Albright’s place,” she uncomfortably smiled.  Preseason Rank #5, 2013 Projections:  62/19/79/.312, Final Numbers:  48/13/79/.292

12. A.J. Pierzynski – Ever wonder if this guy and A.J. Pollock are the same person and Pollock is just cruder.  No?  Okay, it’s just me then.  Preseason Rank #13, 2013 Projections:  51/15/60/.265, Final Numbers:  48/17/70/.275/1

13. Joe Mauer – If you had a category in your league that was “Minnesotan Women Diddle Themselves To This Player,” Mauer carried you in that category.  Preseason Rank #4, 2013 Projections:  83/13/89/.315/7, Final Numbers: 62/11/47/.324

14. Evan Gattis – Because of our lack of press credentials we were not able to interview Evan Gattis’s ex-coworker, ski instructor buddy, Sunflower, but we called Mt. Snow and talked to her anyway.  When asked what she thought of where Gattis was now, she said, “If you see him, tell him he owes me $37 for that ski lift ticket we were supposed to split.”  When we explained to her where he is, she said, “Totes?”  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  44/21/65/.243

15. Brian McCann – Because you could’ve used someone else in McCann’s place while he was on the DL, he’s actually more valuable than this ranking is telling us.  Stupid, lying ranking!  Preseason Rank #14, 2013 Projections:  40/12/57/.242, Final Numbers:  43/20/57/.256

16. Russell Martin – His ranking offered a real dilemma for Alyssa Milano in her 15-team league.  Preseason Rank #20, 2013 Projections:  44/14/58/.239/5, Final Numbers:  51/15/55/.226/9

17. Ryan Doumit – My preseason projections and final stats for Doumit are about as close as you get.  If my preseason projections for Doumit helped you in any way, nice league.  You carry 4 catchers and only roster Twins players?  Preseason Rank #17, 2013 Projections:  44/15/62/.268, Final Numbers:  49/14/55/.247/1

18. Wilson Ramos – I’m going to underline Ramos’s name with pink highlighter for next year.  Then I’m going to put stars around it.  And none of those rinky-dink stars you draw yourself.  I’m getting factory made stars from Taiwan that are embossed in gold and have lead in them.  Then I’m going to lick them to apply them around his name, risking lead poisoning…JUST TO MAKE A POINT!  Oh, and this year he was just okay.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  29/16/59/.272

19. Yan Gomes – You ever hear of those people who have face blindness?  In a way, that’s what I think happens to people with the last name Gomes.  They have “spelling John” blindness.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 45/11/38/.294/2

20. John Buck – There’s a team in your league where the owner was saying this on May 1st, “I got Justin Upton and John Buck and I’m the greatest fantasy manager of all time.”  On September 1st, they were saying, “Hey, Sky, what do you make of the backfield in Philly?”  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  39/15/62/.219/2

159 Responses

  1. J-FOH says:
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    Your cleaning lady has an iPhone?

    Oh and catchers suck in ’13

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @J-FOH: All three of them do, and she also cleans Matt Damon and Affleck’s places… She’s a baller! Or a mentirosa…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: does she talk them up and then tell you, “how do you like dem apples…..mr. Grey”?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… No, she’s very secretive about the whole thing except for how she name drops in every conversation I have with her… She’s like, my daughter goes to school with Ms. Jolie’s kids…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I can’t believe I missed this one, f**king hilarious

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, it’s good shizz…

  2. English says:
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    In one of my Roto leagues I drafted Montero, dropped him after about 2 weeks for Buck who I dropped a month later. I then used Salty, Castro and AJ for the rest of the season depending on who they were playing.

    I won that league.

    Catchers are an afterthought.

    Although I’m with you about Ramos. In my dynasty league I’m turning down offers every day.

  3. Dude says:
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    Grey: thoughts on Gattis vs Fat Adams? Who’s the better keeper? Both at $10 salary in $260 league. Thanks for a great year of laughs and smarts.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dude: Adams… No problem

  4. Curt says:
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    What do you think of Zunino in 2114????

    • Curt says:
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      @Curt: Ooops…..I meant 2014!!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Curt: Ha… I’ll go over him in the offseason… I won’t think much of him though…

  5. The Thumb says:
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    I find it hilarious that the John Buck blurb actually happened to a guy in my league.

  6. TheNewGuy says:
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    Mauer was 13th on the player rater despite a .324 AVG? Thats crazy yo.

    Though his counting stats were utterly appauling, really do Minnesota fans even care anymore about baseball?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TheNewGuy: It’s not that crazy since all his other stats are terrible…

  7. Jeff says:
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    Would you still punt the position in an OBP + walks league?

    I would think Santana and Maurer and high OBP guys would have more value at position where few get on base well.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jeff: Yeah, I would

    • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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      @Gareth: To answer all future pre-draft catcher questions. Just take Ramos with the last pick in your draft. It’ll all work out.

      • L-Boogie says:
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        @CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole: Yeah, except for those of us in stupid 2 catcher leagues. Ramos in the 2nd to last round and Hank Conger with the last pick?

        Finally my season long goal to use Hank Conger’s name in a comment is fulfilled.

        • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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          @L-Boogie: You said it, stupid league. I don’t mess with that.

          • Gareth says:
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            @CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole: I got into a 2 catcher League by Accident this year. I didn’t look too closely at the settings and found out while the draft was taking place. I got Carlos Santana early ish and then grabbed John Buck with my last pick. This would have been great if I hadn’t dropped him before the season even started for John Jaso! I eventually traded BJ Upton for Joe Mauer. That worked out.

            The League also had No DL. So I had injured guys taking spots streaming spots on my roster at different times ALL Year.

            Before signing up to any League, I’m going to be reading the League rules VERY Carefully next year………….

  8. Wake Up says:
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    I set and forget Vmart all year…and it was what it was….but, I have a secret for you…I didn’t get the extra 83 bonus points…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: Well, you should’ve… Did you put your address on the back of your catcher for them to ship it?

  9. Wrong McGuires says:
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    I had Doumit most of the year. It felt like owning the 88th ranked catcher. Wow, how did he make it to 17th?

  10. chillmodious says:
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    For the brave few still lurking in the baseball comment threads, I think you all need to be aware that Dallas Latos was attacked last night in Pittsburgh. But that’s not the important part. One of her tweets, afterwards, is:

    “A huge man called me a cunt & said he was going to kick my ass so I told security. His chick is who threatened me & then attacked me.”
    — Dallas Latos (@DallasLatos) October 2, 2013

    Go Buccos!!!

    • Wake Up says:
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      @chillmodious: Hahaha…the Pirates are gonna steal the ‘ship

      • JoeC says:
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        @Grey: She seems like an alright gal.

  11. Gareth says:
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    I’m Feeling Very Fortunate to be going to Progressive Field Tonight to Watch two up and coming pitchers duke it out for a chance to face the Red Sox in the ALDS.

    This Article I just read really does a nice job of Profiling both Salazar and Cobb for Tonight’s Contest:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-first-best-duel-of-october/

    Whereabouts would you rank these guys next year in fantasy Grey?

    Also – I was thinking of making a RAZZBALL sign to take to the game, but I’m fresh out of Ideas of what to put on it. You Got Any Ideas?

    • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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      @Gareth: Why do people ask ranking questions for next year? Will you remember it? No. Will it change between now and next season? Probably. Will you just use those pre-draft rankings? Definitely.

      • Gareth says:
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        @CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole: I wasn’t asking specifics in regards to Rankings, just a general Consensus from Grey of “Wherabouts” both these Guys have ascended to in the rankings. Maybe I should have worded it Differently.

        • Gareth says:
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          @Gareth: You’re right though. I’m sure his end of season SP rankings will appear soon.

      • 2000 Brain Cells ago says:
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        @CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole:
        Cuz people on a fantasy baseball site like thinking and speculating about fantasy-baseball-related questions?

        Now a couple for you:
        Why are you such a tool?
        Do you really have nothing better to do than comments pa-troll?
        Do you think you add something?

        • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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          @2000 Brain Cells ago:
          1. Define tool.
          2. As much as anyone else who has nothing better to do but ask 100 questions on here.
          3. When people ask sensible, non-catcher questions, you betcha.

        • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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          @2000 Brain Cells ago: P.S. My catcher advice…gold.

          • L-Boogie says:
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            @CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole: Cram just says the things we are all thinking when we read comments but we are too polite to say it. And he’s not wrong. Personally, my cramhole is crammed with catcher questions thanks to Cram.

            • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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              @L-Boogie: I’m fully aware that I’m a dick. I have no filter. I blame it on the whiskey and border-line psychopathy. But I win fantasy baseball championships, so take the good with the bad.

                • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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                  @J-FOH: Same difference? I don’t know, I’m not a psychologicalist (sic).

              • Pardon Me Madam, But Your Mipples Are Leaking says:
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                @CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole: CRAM IT BABY! Grey says “please dont ask catcher questions for 14″… I scroll… All comments catcher questions for 14… Ha! Good thing to get it over with now i guess.

                • CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole says:
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                  @Pardon Me Madam, But Your Mipples Are Leaking: Haha. You should see Sky’s football blog. On thursday he ranks players for Sunday. What’s 90% of the comments asking? “Player x or player y?” Dude, scroll up! I feel bad for him. I guess if I’m empathizing…I can’t be psychotic?!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @CramYourCatcherQuestionUpYourCramhole: and they have been brutal on him this year, i have never seen that many commenters cuss at Grey in anyone piece. Thats your wheelhouse cram…attack!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Gareth: Have the sign read: SAGNOF! Or Razzball… Have fun, should be a great time… I’m not ranking for next year yet, I have talked about Cobb and Salazar plenty of times though

  12. Gareth says:
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    One Idea I had was doing a SAGNOF sign, with it saying “Superman Ain’t Got No Face.”

    This is based on the Idea that the Indians have no real stars and a different Hero has seemed to emerge every night for them on this improbable run.

    • chillmodious says:
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      Nice. Not quite GLOW, but still a winner.

    • Pardon Me Madam, But Your Mipples Are Leaking says:
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      @Gareth: damn, i only clicked on your stupid link cuz i thought i was gonna get to see dallas… Shoulda know G!

  13. Oz says:
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    I won 2013 but my catching is weak. Keeper league, I had Gattis, Zunino, and Ruiz at different times. With Mcann likely leaving ATL, do u think everyone’s favorite white janitor can be a top 5 catcher next year? Or would I be better off with Zunino or An Italian sub like Saltamachia or D’arnaud?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Oz: Gattis

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: pretty sure d’arnaud is a french name.

  14. OaktownSteve says:
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    Totally unrelated to baseball, but Lady Oak and I were somewhat in the bag late night recently and we watched This Is 40 and fell into total hysterics. Haven’t laughed that hard in a really long time. Not sure if it was the mood and the hour or if it’s actually funny. Also, in hindsight oddly uncomfortable that they seem to have nailed our lives in that screenplay.

    Anybody else see it?

    • Hondo says:
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      @OaktownSteve: Are you saying there’s other stuff on TV besides baseball?I’ll have to check into it once the withdrawal shaking stops.

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Hondo:

        I’m still compulsively trying to stream starters against Minnesota.

        • Pardon Me Madam, But Your Mipples Are Leaking says:
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          @OaktownSteve: ha! Pirates stack today… Wait… *DOPE!*

    • Shake N Bacon says:
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      @OaktownSteve: I had the same reaction to that movie. I thought it was hilarious. One of the funniest movies I had seen in a long time. I’m surprised I don’t hear more rave reviews for it.

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Shake N Bacon:

        I think our culture is really good at churning out and making space for people who are basically decent and yet at the same time self-involved, overly-entitled assholes. Hello!

        • Shake N Bacon says:
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          @OaktownSteve: When reading some reviews on IMDB for a lot of movies, I always run across a lot of crap from people who think they are holier-than-thou. They sh!t on almost every movie they can. But then give a great review for some movie Lindsay Lohan was in and then talk about how they can’t wait for Ben Affleck to be the new batman. FML.

    • chillmodious says:
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      I was planning to see it, but only because I thought it was a documentary on the advent of King Cobra. Misleading movie title. I went to the corner store instead.

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @chillmodious:

        Malt liquor was originally marketed in America to the middle class. The first widely available was called Country Club

        • chillmodious says:
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          So it was a documentary after all! Dah. Gonna stream it tonight!

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @chillmodious: the same country club that makes some of the worst liquor buyable in stores?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I didn’t like it… Kinda done with Leslie Mann and Paul Rudd… Did really like Lithgow though…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        I kind of figured you were going to say that. It’s flawed no doubt. I think the particulars of trying to manage a marriage and kids and other stuff simultaneously are going to be more acutely felt if you’re in that situation. The holy crud that spot on feel and the way that makes laugh and feel a little nauseated and probably a little nauseous as well.

        • Grey

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          Yeah, I couldn’t relate to it, so that might’ve played into my enjoyment… A movie should play to other audiences than ones depicted though, only mobsters didn’t like Goodfellas…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      On this same side note, Enough Said was brilliant…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        Noted. Thanks for the rec.

        I am always running way in arrears on movies. I just saw Argo last week. When I pulled it apart, I could poke some holes in it, but during the watching I enjoyed it. It was kind of like an update on The Great Escape in a way. It was a prison break movie, a CIA procedural, a period piece (nailed the 70′s), and a Hollywood insider movie. I never not like Alan Arkin.

        • Grey

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          Total prison break movie in a different situation… I liked Argo a lot, one of the best movies last year… Hard to always find a smart movie that is also entertaining…Felt it captured both, plus it had John Goodman…

        • MattTruss223 says:
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          @OaktownSteve: Same man, I’m always waaaaay behind catching these flicks. Watched Argo about a month or so ago, really enjoyed it. I don’t know the last time I went to the movie theater, so I’m always late to the party. Sounds like you have young kids too, so you know how that is. I’ll have to look for This Is 40.

    • royce! says:
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      @OaktownSteve: Though I did laugh a lot while watching it, once I realized that it was the same couple from Knocked Up essentially having the same issues, I was desperately wishing that they would just cut the crap and either grow up or get divorced.

  15. yellowman says:
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    You like Josmil Pinto be a top 10 C next year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Seems unlikely, definitely won’t in the preseason…

  16. Hondo says:
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    Battlestar Galactica sucks.I gave it a shot because it begins with the same letters as baseball,but every episode is the same.I’m not going through another 3.5 seasons of it.
    I’ll just sit here and play solitaire until March.Maybe I’ll raise some Alpaca.

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @Hondo:

      Lorne Greene carried it for me.

      • Hondo says:
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        @OaktownSteve: I guess what I tried was a remake,it had Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonough.They couldn’t save it though.Weak,repetitive plot.
        I’ve got to find a long series to veg on while I detox from baseball.

        Maybe I’ll go with Eastbound and Down since I usually watched it when the games were over and couldn’t sleep. I was often times a bit trashed and don’t remember much of it.

        • Big Magoo says:
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          @Hondo: Boardwalk Empire, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad. Worth checking out if you’re not caught up on past seasons.

          The new James Spader show, The Blacklist, has me intrigued over the first two episodes. It’s more limited than the cable shows with what it can put out there, but it’s off to a good start.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Masters of Sex was solid for one episode so far

            • Big Magoo says:
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              @Grey: It certainly has a catchy name. Maybe I’ll check it out.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                It’s Showtime, not sure if you have that… Best new show I’ve seen this season…

                • Big Magoo says:
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                  @Grey: Nevermind then. I had it a few years ago but I hardly ever watched it, so I cut it loose. Those few HBO series are the only things keeping me from axing the premium channels altogether, honestly. Watching a movie is a rare treat these days with a 22 month old running around.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Ah, gotcha… Well, it eventually be on Netflix streaming or somewhere you can see it…

          • Hondo says:
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            @Big Magoo: Boardwalk Empire kind of got old for me.I can pretty much quote Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones since I’ve seen them in their entirety a few times.
            I’ll check out Sons of Anarchy,thanks.

            • Big Magoo says:
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              @Hondo: I know what you mean about Boardwalk. It’s gotten a bit repetitive. If you like those other shows, give Sons a try. I think you’ll like it. The Blacklist too. Most promising network tv show that I’ve seen in a long time.

    • Shake N Bacon says:
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      @Hondo: If you have Amazon Prime, I’ve heard the show Luther is supposed to be really good. I think it’s a BBC show, so mostly british actors. I haven’t seen it yet, but it’s on my queue.

      If you haven’t checked out The Walking Dead yet, I suggest that. Even people I know that don’t like Zombie crap, get addicted to it.

  17. Simply Fred

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    my C line with 32 streamed:

    64/17/80/.168/3

    61/15/72/.294/2 (Posey)

    gonna have to pay attention to that avg…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      How on earth did you stream that many homers and that low of an average?

      • Simply Fred

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        @Grey: ha! average was really:

        .252 AVG

        one of those deals where when i copied and pasted it put some h/ab in scrambled.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Okay, that makes more sense… Not a bad line either…

    • MattTruss223 says:
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      @simply fred: Holy crap Fred! 0.168! That include what you got from Gattis? I know you played him in the OF sometimes too, not sure if you broke it down like that or not, or even how you’d know.

      Let’s see, I got 31/4/43/.281 from Perez (then of course dropped him for his only hot streak of the year, that sucked!) and then 23/8/40/3/.275 from streaming during his off days and after I dropped him. That was Pierzynski and Salty for the most part, Gattis streamed for the day he hit a Grand Slam, Russell Martin chipped in a SB, and a few other shlubs for some 0-fers. That was 91 Games outta Perez and 57 from everyone else. Man, I shoulda started streaming guys sooner!

  18. J-FOH says:
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    Loving the TV talk, are we going to have what we did over baseball break vacations papers for professor Albright due in February?

    you still watching Ray Donovan, i fell way behind. I watch all the new sitcom style stuff with baby’s mama to find something we might enjoy in the small windows of free tv time we have and really liked the Goldbergs and Back in the Game, the Goldbergs is like a suedo wonder years in the 80′s and Back in the Game has James Caan constantly drinking and being a jackass. Everyone calls him the “Cannon”, he’s a former ball player, and he can’t get the name of his grandson right and makes fun of all the sad sack kids on the little league team ala the Bad News Bears. It brough me joy once, lets hope it can do it again.

    Oh and i still hate catchers and the stupid questions that accompany them

    • Grey

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      I don’t watch sitcoms on network TV, can’t handle most of them… The laugh track drives me crazy… I lost Ray Donovan when Time Warner stopped showing Showtime for a month and I never went back… Probably stopped about halfway through…

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        @Grey: I don’t know who Ray Donovan is,but I’d would’ve trade you you JUp for him a week ago.

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          @Hondo: *d*

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You can have him…

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        @Grey: you know they hardly do laugh tracks anymore? Lots of narration now and different styles. The Goldbergs makes me laugh for a few reasons 1) it has George Segal, who makes me laugh 2) kooky 80′s gear that makes me laugh and looks legit and not cheesy 3) the guy who does it filmed his real family growing up and they show it at the end of every episode so you get to see his dad calling them morons and yelling them in real life….what can i say i’m easily amused…oh look a paddle ball

        • Grey

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          Oh yeah? Hmm…It has been a while since I watched a straight network sitcom… Something about watching Zoey Douche-anel and others that makes me cringe… George Segal is funny though, I’ll give you that…

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            @Grey: I hate a lot of shows but love some of the actors they bring on, like i will watch anything Allison Janney does once out of respect for her amazing chops. Or I watched the new one with Bradley Whitford and marcia Gay harden because I like both of them..hehe, i said gay. The Goldbergs is not bad for escapist humor and nostalgia for a time before we had mustaches

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              @J-FOH:

              The Sherlock Holmes in me says you were a West Wing fan.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @OaktownSteve: @OaktownSteve: I never watched an episode of West Wing, that was during my having lots of fun stage of my life and if it wasn’t a football game or on Sunday nights then I didn’t watch it.

                • Grey

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                  Same here, watching it now though, and it holds up well… It’s on Netflix too…

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                    @Grey: I’ll have to check it out. Is Allison Janney the one who is going to be on Masters of Sex?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, same one

                  • OaktownSteve says:
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                    @Grey:

                    Marty Sheen is great as is the late John Specer

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, they’re both phenomenal… Only piece I don’t like is Stockard Channing, but she’s not around that much…

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                  @J-FOH:

                  How do you get to be a Bradley Whitford and Alison Janey fan and have no West Wing

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                    @OaktownSteve: I remember him from Revenge of the Nerds 2 and Billy Madison and just always liked his smaller roles in Philadelphia and the Client. Everytime I came across him I enjoyed his range.

                    For Janney I fell in love with her in Drop Dead Gorgeous, one of the funniest female comedy performances ever! then American Beauty, Juno, and lots of other small movie parts. Oh and on Mr. Sunshine, the failed Matthew Perry show, she was gut busting hilarious.

                    If you have never seen drop dead gorgeous, from 1999, then please go see now. Also has a very funny Ellen Barkin

            • Grey

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              Speaking of which, she’s gonna be on Masters of Sex later in the season and I’m currently watching The West Wing for the first time on streaming… Are you watching Masters of Sex? It’s really good…

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                @Grey:

                I liked the preview after Homeland. I’ll probably check it out.

                • Grey

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                  Yeah, was solid… Homeland was a decent bounce back episode too after a poor second season…

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    Do you think E-Cab’s year was an outlier and he’ll regress to a .250 hitter next year? I’ve been offered the following in my keeper, keep in round as long as you’d like. Thanks again for answering all my keeper questions!

    eCab 22 and Crush 14
    for
    Segura 22 and Matt Carpenter 22

    • Grey

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      I think EverCab will regress, btu I wouldn’t trade away Davis…

  20. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Arencibia hit 21 HRs and still couldn’t find a way onto this abominable list. It’s time to find out if you’re a Herbathrowdite, JP, or hang up your cleats.

    • Grey

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      I’d like to see him pitch to only catchers to see him at least give these other guys value

    • Pardon Me Madam, But Your Mipples Are Leaking says:
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      @Sky: HEY! Back to your pigskin den!

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      @Sky:

      .227 OBP. Repeat .227 OBP. Almost unbelievable.

  21. Blue says:
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    Picked Salty in the 23rd round and didn’t pay attention to the slot until he got dinged up at the end of August.

    Catchers really, really suck. Biggest regret of draft? Choosing Sal and his abuelita in the 8th round instead of the guy at the top of my draft sheet–Chris Davis.

    • Grey

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      Damn, yeah, that hurts…

  22. mitch cumstein says:
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    Who you picking tonight?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rays

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        dang .
        forgot about your love for all things delmon .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I have a soft spot for anti-semites…

  23. costaricanchata says:
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    tribe time !

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      @costaricanchata:

      hometown crowd is pumped .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Go Rays!

  24. J-FOH says:
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    Salazar looked impressive

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, he’s terrific…until about the 5th inning…

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        @Grey: I’m really pulling for the tribe tonight for few ridiculous reasons 1) I would love to see Francona win and go back to Boston and mop the floor with the sox 2) Florida is a state best served for spring training, I have never liked that they play baseball down there…wait I have a rays hat. Nope I stand by my statement 3) I had this Indians hat as a kid http://didthetribewinlastnight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Barker2.jpg

        It was a gift from my creepy uncle

        • Grey

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          That picture is someone’s creepy uncle… I just like that the Rays do it on the cheap every night…

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            @Grey: that’s Len Barker

            • Grey

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              Len! That is such an uncle name too…

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                @Grey: dude threw a perfect game

                • Grey

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                  Yeah, I know Len Barker…I remember his baseball card about the perfect game…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I was being kinda a dick with that one

                    Last night I google searched for a good pic of you for my Friday article, I’m paying my respects to the end of the baseball season and the men that made this all possible (on razzball) and somehow this popped up. I felt kinda dirty reading it, like when you were a kid and you went under your sheets with a flashlight to look at some Playboy from the 60′s you found in your grandfathers garage buried under old newspapers http://razzball.com/matthew-berry-razzball-interview/

                    • Grey

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                      Ha, haven’t seen that in a while… That’s what started the feud… It went onto Deadspin too… Google Deadspin and Razzball…

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                    @Grey: was a little confused at first but then get a little glossy eyed at the end….kinda like sex

                    • Grey

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                      Ha

  25. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    over / under
    a) salazar K’s …. 9 + 1/2

    b) cobb K’s …… 8 + 1/2

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      a) under b) over

  26. Jay says:
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    Are you targeting guys like Ubaldo, Liriano and Anibal Sanchez for next season? I am thinking of trying to balance out my squad with 4 pitchers and 4 hitters. I have Cutch, Votto, A Jones, Waino, E5, Pedi to start with.

    • Grey

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      I like Anibal, I’m undecided on the other two right now, I’ll need to research them…

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    Man, the Indians aren’t good huh? How did they win so many games? Did they play the twins 82 times or what? Just found this stat: They are 30-44 against winning teams. As I type this they are bringing the tying run to the plate, but man, they’ve missed way too many opportunities tonight.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, agreed… They should’ve never pitched Salazar too… He can’t go deep enough… I hope the Rays beat the Red Sox too…

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        @Grey: I bet they will, Sawx struggled against top pitchers all year and Matt Moore has owned them pretty good. Lester, Lackey, Buch, Peavy vs. Moore, Price, Cobb, Peavy. Hellickson’s winnable, Sawx better hope it makes it that far. Rays are very dangerous come postseason, especially in a short series, they are built great for it.

        You got LA taking out my Bravos though, that’s not cool. That should be a fun series. Kershaw/Greinke is a real tough slate. Should be a fun playoffs.

        • Grey

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          Kershaw and Greinke should carry them through the playoffs, but shizz always happens, so it’s hard to say…Kershaw is actually the only thing anyone needs in a short series… If he wins two games in each series, it becomes very tough

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            @Grey: the uncertainty of the OF is a little scary right now, but I actually believe in schumaker, dude has been there before…alot!

            And speaking of Dodgers OF’s WTF is up with Kemp, he is such a pussy. I could be days after getting my leg amputated and would be ready to pinch hit. His pride and ego are so far worse than I ever imagined. So what if your not 100%, neither was Kirk Gibson and he made magic in only one at bat, I have the bobblehead to prove it. But back to Kemp, I am so disappointed in him, maybe the Dodgers can ship him and a top pitching prospect to the Marlins for G I A N C A R L O, it would be good for you too, can you imagine how much you will save in stalking fees?

            • Grey

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              Oh my God, Giancarlo right in my backyard? *shudders* Imagine running into him in a club while drunk? I’d lose my shizz… Dodgers OF is uncertain but they just need 3 runs a game to win with Kershaw and Greinke… I like their chances…

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                @Grey: razzball could fall apart…nah Maria has got you covered, “Maria! can we include at least one non latin player in the rundown!”

                • Grey

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                  It’s Consuela!

  28. Gregorious Chant says:
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    Okay so in the last couple days I was reexposed to razzball gets sold to bleacher report and Hate bell I just went through and read every one of the hate bells awesome!! What other gems of my missing? My long winter of waiting for April has just Gottn better since I get to go back and read every post in razzball history

  29. Eric says:
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    In a dynasty league with 8 keepers… I acquired Ramos via trade at a 26th round value and have Zunino at a 28th round… Two catcher slot league but I hate the idea of using two keepers on catching positions…

    Which one do you rank higher and would you ever hold 2 catchers like this?

    Good stuff on this site; much appreciated!

    E

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ramos…Take followups to the newest post…

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