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Our 2017 fantasy baseball rankings are humming right along.  The last post, the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball, was the longest post ever written on the internet by a relatively sane person.  The post before that, top 20 catchers for 2017 fantasy baseball, was the longest post ever written by a relatively insane person.  Incredibly, these are the same person.  Glass half sane, glass half crazy, nah mean?  So, without further hubbub on the tomfoolery, the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball was shallow like how Altuve likes his pool water as recently as two years ago, but that was not the case last year, and almost rivaled 1st basemen for depth.  So, that’s the same again this year, right?  Well, let’s see about that.  As always, my projections are included and I mention where I see tiers starting and stopping.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball:

1. Jose Altuve – Went over him in the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

2. Trea Turner – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

3. Rougned Odor – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

4. Robinson Cano – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Murphy.  I call this tier, “Why don’t I want any of these guys?”  These players were all good last year.  All good as in the everyday definition and not ‘all good’ like the Urban Dictionary definition.  Though, those two definitions are kinda the same.  Last year, Cano thru Murphy were turnt up AF (attracting a younger demographic!).  Cano thru Murphy last year hit the ave, their low rider went bump and the perfect song came on the radio all summer long.  This year?  They are giving me the mehs!  I don’t want any of them.  As for Cano, he had a career year in ’16 in a career that’s had some superb seasons.  He had a new career high in runs (107) and homers (39).  His HR/FB% was his 2nd highest of his career.  Last time that happened, he followed a 33-homer season with 27 HRs.  He had one of the lowest average distances on homers for someone with at least 20 homers (less than Marcus Semien and Salvador Perez with 395.7 feet).  Oh, and now he’s gonna be 34 years old.  2017 Projections:  86/26/91/.291/2 in 605 ABs

5. Jonathan Villar – Could one position have more guys I’m less excited about than other fantasy baseball ‘perts?  I’ll give you a hint:  no.  Okay, less of a hint and more of a direct answer.  I will say that Villar has me less disillusioned than most of the guys in this tier, and more just on the bleh train headed to Whatevs-ville.  Villar is a 15 homer, 35 steal, .255 hitter.  That’s not bad (and, brucely, no one in this tier is bad per se); it’s just I think we had five career years in the span of five players.  When was the last time that happened?  I’ll give you another hint:  I have no idea and I’m hoping you can tell me.  2017 Projections:  91/15/51/.257/37 in 565 ABs

6. Brian Dozier – Okay, seriously, how many career years can one tier handle?!  If you’re drafting in a DeLorean and going back to last year, then this tier is so luscious.  But if you’re drafting for this year, I really don’t understand how you could get excited about any of these guys.  Dozier is a .245 hitter who usually hits around 25 homers with 15-ish steal speed.  It’s solid, but he had 42 homers and 18 steals with a .268 average last year.  His ceiling called and said there’s no more room up here, go back down!  2017 Projections:  102/25/74/.248/15 in 595 ABs

7. Jean Segura – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Segura) went the other way in the Taijuan Walker trade.  How I feel about this trade is more clear than Flint drinking water.  I like Segura, but he is not the 20-homer, 30-steal, .320-hitting guy he was last year.  Aren’t you supposed to build around young pitchers too?  Isn’t that Fix Your Team 101?  Don’t worry, Mariners fans are among the loudest homers, so you’ll hear all about how this is a great trade for them.  Yeah, mmhmm.  I rolled my eyes real hard between the yeah and the mmhmm.  You couldn’t even see my irises in the middle of the roll.  That’s how hard I roll!”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  83/11/46/.274/27 in 580 ABs

8. Ian Kinsler – I like the guys in this tier!  Dot dot dot.  At last year’s draft price.  This year, you’re lucky if you break even!  The preceding sounds like it could’ve also been a chorus in a 2 Live Jews song, and ‘Dot Dot Dot’ was signaling to one of the old Jewish ladies in the video.  A bit of insight into the actual numbering here, I almost had the tier go from Cano to Dozier and Segura thru Murphy as a different tier.  Also, at one point, I had Kinsler above Segura with Kipnis below Murphy.  What does all this mean besides my early campaigning for Indecision ’17?  It means everyone from Segura to Murphy are close, and Cano, Villar and Dozier feel on a slightly higher level.  2017 Projections:  105/18/77/.272/12 in 607 ABs

9. Daniel Murphy – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

10. Jonathan Schoop – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until LeMahieu.  I call this tier, “The night shift!”  Tier name is pretty straightforward.  Kidding, the tier name makes no sense without an explanation.  The other day my Cougar wife said to me that, due to my snoring, we might have to sleep in shifts.  She would sleep for six hours then I get to sleep for six hours.  So, I immediately yelled, “I take the night shift!” Cougs then argued that she came up with the plan so she gets the night shift, but I said it’s like when you call shotgun first.  Doesn’t matter if that means grandma, with her arthritic knees, is stuck in the backseat, if you call shotgun first, then you get shotgun.  Well, I called the night shift, which means I get to sleep from midnight to six AM and Cougs can sleep from 6 AM to noon.  That’s this tier, the tier you want, the night shift.   As for Schoop, I’m convinced that if people saw Schoop hit, they’d be as excited about drafting him.  Let’s see if there’s anything to that:

Sexy, right?  I also think people are less enthusiastic for Schoop due to his OBP, even if people don’t play in OBP leagues.  Would it be nice if he took some walks?  Yeah, I guess, but the elderly are all about taking walks, but I’m not drafting how well the old dude with tennis balls on his walker is moving through the mall.  Last year was a big year for power, and Schoop’s stats actually show he has more to give, rather than less.  His fly balls went down slightly along with his HR/FB%.  If those revert to his career norms, and, at 25 years old, I expect they will, then he can get above 30+ HRs without a ton of effort. 2017 Projections:  78/30/89/.260/2 in 565 ABs

11. Dee Gordon – 94/2/28/.268/60 is Gordon’s stats from last year if you would prorate them across a whole season.  Sure, when we prorate, we make a pro out of rat and E.  Okay, that doesn’t work as well as assume, but 50+ steals doesn’t seem like a pipe dream, unless Gordon was smoking his PEDs rather than just injecting them.  2017 Projections: 88/3/39/.282/51 in 608 ABs

12. Jose Peraza –  For every guy that says at your draft, “Pereza is gonna play and steal 50+ bases!”  Tell him there’s a Chinese orphan that drafted Peraza last year with the same hopes, and back then they had a family.  Draft Peraza, but he may abandon you as the Reds abandon him.  UPDATE:  The Reds look more committed to Peraza now than in January and have been pushing him to be their number two hitter, and, since their number one hitter is Billy Hamilton, the Reds could lead the league in bunts, infield singles and ‘Damn, I shouldn’t have blinked’s.   2017 Projections:  78/4/46/.288/44 in 527 ABs

13. Devon Travis – Already gave you my Devon Travis sleeper.  It was written while sifting through my Cracker Jack for the prize.  2017 Projections: 91/19/64/.285/10 in 578 ABs

14. DJ LeMahieu – This is so not the kind of guy I usually get excited about.  11 HRs and 11 SBs last year?  Let me vomit into my mouth then slowly drop it out of mouth and spell out ‘Blech’ with vomit spittle.  That’s my usual reaction to a guy like LeMahieu.  LeMehpew — amiright?!   Okay, so bear with me, or bare with me if you’re a nudist, LeMahieu’s average home run distance was 416.6 feet, that would’ve been the 4th highest in the majors if he had 20 homers.  He hit a ton of homers to straightaway center (okay, only six to center, but he only hit 11 total).  If he pulls some balls in Coors, I think 20 HRs is possible. We’re seeing a new LeMahieu — LeMahnew? — one that hits for some power and still hits for a high average.  Finally, his speed is kinda make or break his value a bit — LeValue? — and he might be more of a 15-steal guy than the 23 steals he had in 2015.  There’s some risk here, but I’m guessing LeMahieu becomes a top five 2nd baseman this year with not that much risk when you consider he was the 9th best 2nd baseman last year on your Player Rater.  The top five is his LeMilieu.  2017 Projections:  96/14/64/.311/15 in 560 ABs

15. Matt Carpenter – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Castro.  I call this tier, “If you don’t know what to expect, welcome to your first year of fantasy baseball.  It’s challenging (to maintain relationships while watching fifteen games every day for six months).”  Went over Carpenter in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

16. Logan Forsythe – I saw some talk this offseason by someone that LoFo is a cheap Kipnis.  I suppose there’s a case to be made there, I’m not making that case obvi. LoFo had 511 ABs last year, and 509 of them were leadoff, and he still only had 76 runs.  Yeah, LoFo’s my fetch.  UPDATE:  The Dodgers traded for Forsythe because I guess he was a cheap Dozier?  You know, because the Dodgers were trying to trade for Dozier this offseason.  This pushes Kike Hernandez to the bench.  So, the Dodgers went for Forsythe over someone with no foreskin?  This boosts his counting stats value (more runs and RBIs), but doesn’t do a lot for his AVG and HRs.  I’m boosting him in the rankings, but keeping him in the same tier.  2017 Projections: 88/16/54/.265/9 in 543 ABs

17. Dustin Pedroia – Trick question:  does the Waldorf-Astoria have the highest priced prostitutes?  Okay, trick question on topic:  in the last five years, Pedroia has 106+ runs and 16+ homers, how many times?  Zero.  2017 Projections: 88/12/51/.306/6 in 570 ABs

18. Ben Zobrist – He will have at least 710 ABs this year if he stays healthy.  Those capable of a little in-between-line reading will see how healthy I think he will be this year.  As his wife song goes, “Jesus is with us every day, but Ben is day-to-day, day-to-day, day-to-day.”  Hey, take it up with her the rhyming of day with day, day and day.  2017 Projections: 86/14/55/.266/7 in 555 ABs

19. Neil Walker – If you came to this post only looking to see what I had to say about Neil Walker, you should check Ancestry.com or Geni.com, I bet you’re related to him.  2017 Projections:  66/23/75/.275/3 in 523 ABs

20. Starlin Castro – Last year I said something like, “I love Castro, he’s gonna get 20+ homers, yippee-ki-ay-motherfracker!”  Maybe not the fracking part because I just started watching Battlestar Galactica.  By the way, I’m not a sci-fi geek, but BG’s entertaining as frack.  As for Castro, um, yeah, he got 20+ homers and was still whatever.  2017 Projections:  67/23/77/.265/5 in 567 ABs

21. Javier Baez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Mondesi.  I call this tier, “You sure they got the everyday job?”  By this tier name I mean, I hear the same stuff as you, how each of these guys is starting for their team or how they’re not starting.  I think they’re all liable to be drafted in March and, by May, it’s going to become, “Ugh, (fill-in player name from this tier) isn’t playing again.  Why didn’t you tell me he was going to sit so much?”  Then I’ll link to this.  Then you’ll say, “Hey, look at the birdie,” as you’re distracted.  As for Baez, I’m guessing I’m more down on Baez, in a non-sexual way, than most ‘perts.  On a bad team, Baez plays for 600 ABs and I’m Afrika Bambaataa wearing sunglasses that have Baez’s face on them and a medallion with Baez’s number.  Now?  I don’t see Baez getting more than 450 ABs or hitting anywhere above the six hole for more than a hundred of them.  The Cubs winning last year really cemented this too.  If you’re Maddon, do you work in Baez more than last year after being so successful platooning him?  Rhetorical!  2017 Projections:  55/17/65/.268/13 in 449 ABs

22. Jason Kipnis – Can take some solace that I refuse to pay retail prices for two guys in this tier — Kinsler and Kipnis — because Kinsler is Jewish and Kipnis sounds like a side order at a Jewish deli that you ask the waitress to explain every time you’re there and always forget how she described it.  “It’s what stuffed into an intestine?”  This tier, maybe more than any other tier this year, is going to tell us whether the offense surge last year is going to be a long term trend or if it’s going to be a one year thing.  Kipnis has me the most optimistic from this tier.  Not optimistic enough to move him in a more favorable tier, but his numbers don’t scream regression if you believe the gains he made last year.  His fly balls shot up (literally), his hard contact went way up, his ground balls went down (literally and figuratively).  A 13.1% HR/FB doesn’t seem that impossible to repeat.  He looks a lot more like a 17-homer guy than an under-ten homer guy as he was in 2014 and ’15.  The big concern is something he can’t change — his actual profile of a 17-homer, 15-steal, .265-type of hitter.  That just isn’t that exciting.  UPDATE:  Kipnis will miss Opening Day with a rotator cuff injury.  Terry Francona said, “Kipnis is getting better and nothing went haywire.”  Is it me or do managers talk like they’re in the 1940’s?  “All these newfangled buttons on the iPhone!  Just give me a clubhouse phone and Andrew Miller and I’ll be a-okay.  Unless I’m facing dem newfangled Dominican players.  Consarnit!  That Nelson Cruz jumping-jack-frass’d that ball to kingdom come!  Now, someone get me my Pall Malls!”  That’s Jim Leyland after the U.S.-Dominican game this past weekend.  That Nelson Cruz could live in the Sandals’ Punta Cana resort for the rest of his life without paying any resort fee.  I’m talking free bags of plantain chips!  UPDATE II:  Will be out another month-plus.  Funny how ‘nothing went haywire’ and Kipnis has had three setbacks through three doctor visits.  My advice, stop going to the doctor.  2017 Projections:  51/11/41/.259/12 in 419 ABs

23. Jedd Gyorko –  Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

24. Josh Harrison – Best case scenario, he tops his career high of 13 homers and career high of 19 steals, so a poor man’s Segura.  Worst case scenario, he sleeps with your wife, watches cartoons on your Netflix so your suggested shows are all screwed up and uses your Rickey Henderson rookie card as a coaster.  Most realistic scenario…. 2017 Projections:  73/7/48/.280/17 in 491 ABs

25. Ryan Schimpf – Doesn’t Schimpf sound like a genetically modified shrimp they only serve at PF Chang’s?  No?  Meh, maybe it’s just me.  Schimpf could hit 35 homers, with a .180 average and be playing in Korea by 2018.  Or he hits 25 homers with a .210 average and is playing in Korea in 2019.  Lots of possibilities here!  2017 Projections:  54/27/62/.207/5 in 488 ABs

26. Hernan Perez – *looks up how Hernan got 404 ABs last year in 123 games, gets distracted and somehow five hours later I’m on the Wikipedia page for the actor that plays Gregor Clegane*  Pretty interesting stuff, but can he do it again? (Don’t even remember who the ‘he’ is I was distracted for so long… Oh!  Yeah, Hernan!)  Right, so Perez was a Swiss Army knife last year for the Brewers, as his mention on the 2017 position eligibility chart shows.  He has no starting job right now, but that might not preclude him from 400+ ABs anymore than Lawrie’s starting job guarantees him 400-plus ABs.  I imagine a lot of value for Perez in daily NL-Only leagues when you can slot him in and out of your lineup, and not a ton of people drafting him in shallower weekly leagues.  If he gets the ABs, I don’t think a 10/30 season is that hard to imagine.  2017 Projections:  55/10/46/.247/30 in 422 ABs

27. Kolten Wong – There’s hope here that he recaptures his former top prospect status, but there’s also a possibility it’s all just Wong.  2017 Projections:  59/14/64/.278/10 in 435 ABs

28. Raul Mondesi – Will challenge that age-old adage, you can’t steal first base.  If he makes it to September in the lineup, he will then challenge, you can’t wear white after Labor Day.  Though, all players struggle with that.  2017 Projections:  51/9/59/.212/38 in 487 ABs

29. Danny Espinosa – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Solarte.  I call this tier, “Yes, they are the starters.  God help you if you own one.”  As for Espinosa, here’s what I said this offseason, “(Espinosa was) traded to the Angels.  Going back to the Nats in the trade was, “We don’t care, just take Espinosa.”  Why did Arte Moreno go from spending $200 million every offseason to looking like he’s using EBT?  Is Moreno the Latin Loria?  Did he build up a team to get a lucrative TV contract and then pull the rug out on fans?  Mike Trout is looking like a modern day Ernie Banks with this schmohawk offense.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  57/19/67/.215/12 in 502 ABs

30. Brandon Drury – Too bad Mark Grace no longer announces games for the Diamondbacks, since Drury sounds like a drunk person saying drawer.  “Hey, woman, did you put my koozie in the Drury?”  That’s you after one too many.  You can’t start in Chase Field all year and not have moments where you look like you’re going to be a top five option at your position, if only for a few weeks.  Drury went through it last year.   Though, even after a near-full season, Drury still only had 16 homers and 1 steal.  So, yeah.  2017 Projections:  66/18/71/.277/2 in 480 ABs

31. Joe Panik – I’ve seen a few things with Panik.  Seen him listed as the starter, the strong side of a platoon with Ehire Adrianza and as the first reaction when your drunk dad says he wants to give a toast.  I’d be more Panik’d if I had to rely on him for fantasy.  2017 Projections:  58/8/61/.262/5 in 488 ABs

32. Cesar Hernandez – Feels like one of those guys that is great in theory and terrible in reality.  Like every Jim Jarmusch film.  Adam Driver couldn’t even save Paterson.  I’m sorry, but that movie would put to sleep a hummingbird on cocaine.  2017 Projections:  65/4/35/.277/20 in 515 ABs

33. Howie Kendrick – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

34. Brandon Phillips –  His value will go up if he’s traded to a contender where there’s no room for him to be a regular player, just so he’s no longer being awful in an lineup.  UPDATE:  As my previous blurb indicated, I figured Phillips would be traded, just didn’t expect it to happen this soon.  Phillips goes to the Braves as a stopgap to prospect, Ozzie Albies, and clubhouse influence, which is different than Jung-ho who is just under the influence.  Ooh, Idea Alert!  They should have a TV show, NL Storytellers, where veterans get on and talk about how things were while being accompanied by a striped-down Matchbox Twenty.  As for Phillips in Atlanta for fantasy, nothing changes.  2017 Projections:  65/12/69/.269/15 in 512 ABs

35. Yangervis Solarte – Fair point, person who pointed out that Solarte will be more valuable than Schimpf because of Solarte’s .270 average and decent counting stats.  You won tickets for the Padres.  You can pick any game, any seat and stretch your legs over 50,000 seats while you’re there.  The thing is, Solarte has absolutely no upside and is a complete bore who I would never draft him, while I could see a flyer on Schimpf.  That totally is a P.F. Chang’s dish, right?  Schimpf flyer?  No?  Damn.  2017 Projections:  68/16/77/.270/1 in 509 ABs

36. Wilmer Flores – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Dietrich.  I call this tier, “I like them, just playin’.”  Hmm, for the millennial set that might be confusin’.  I do like these guys, if they are just playin’.  Not jokin’, I mean just startin’.  Damn, bad week to drop all my G’s.  If these ‘uys are just playin’, I like them.  Not just jokin’!  U’h, for’et it.  As for Wilmer, went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

37. Steve Pearce – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Pearce) signed with the Jays. Thus far the Blue Jays’ offseason moves can be described by their fans as, “I hope there’s better moves to come.” As of right now, Pearce is the Jays’ starting left fielder and best hitting outfielder.  Gulp.”  And that’s me quoting me!  The good news, the Jays signed Bautista after that.  The bad news for the Jays….Bautista.  2017 Projections:  44/14/49/.279/2 in 315 ABs

38. Scooter Gennett – News out of Milwaukee is Scooter will need to battle for playing time.  If Scooter has a sword, spiked mace or gun, I like his chances.  If he has a bat, then I’m worried about him.  2017 Projections:  41/10/47/.274/5 in 390 ABs

39. Tyler Saladino – He should see playing time when Lawrie blows out his knee or ‘any last bit of enthusiasm anyone can anyone have for Lawrie is gone.’  2017 Projections:  41/7/44/.276/13 in 376 ABs

40. Jace Peterson – He could hit 10 homers and steal 30 bases.  Just playin’!  Not just jokin’, with the Braves playin’ with Jace.  Not messin’ with him, playin’ him!  Si’h.  2017 Projections:  51/5/27/.239/13 in 403 ABs

41. Whit Merrifield – As Lewis Carroll once said, “To Whit Merrifield, among the mad people who drafted him.  Why, sometimes I’m ‘To Whit Merrifield’ too.”  2017 Projections:  40/5/34/.261/5 in 302 ABs

42. Derek Dietrich – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

44. Enrique Hernandez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the end of the list.  I call this tier, “I’m sorry you had a stroke during the draft, but at least you drafted someone to play 2nd base.”  As for Enrique, he’s the third Jew of the top 20 2nd basemen.  Though, only when he goes by his nickname.  UPDATE:  The Dodgers showed great Forsythe by not starting the season with this schmohawk.  2017 Projections:  54/12/57/.248/6 in 507 ABs

43. Jurickson Profar – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

44. Brett Lawrie – You, “Lawrie has to start every day, the White Sox are rebuilding.”  You in May, “Why do I own Lawrie yet actively rooting for Saladino to steal at-bats from him?”  You in June, “Thank God, Lawrie got hurt.”  UPDATE:  The White Sox released Lawrie.  He’s not concerned, he just updated his LinkedIn profile with “aggressively runs into the stands at a moment’s notice.”  Should be hearing from someone any day now.  2017 Projections: 61/15/64/.244/6 in 475 ABs

44. Jed Lowrie – Jed’s dead (last), baby, Jed’s dead (last).  2017 Projections: 48/7/52/.249 in 468 ABs

 
  1. Christian Herman says:
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    Benintendi or Mazara?
    Bret Hart or Triple H

  2. Grey kissed my girlfriend! says:
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    In a 20 team league it seems reasonable to punt 2nd base. I’m ok with grabbing the 30th 2b and maybe even my MI beyond that. Go big elsewhere… disagree?

    • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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      @Grey kissed my girlfriend!: I could see it – though if you’re punting I’d maybe aim for a decidedly boring / average guy who won’t F up you’re stats . . . like Forsythe / Solarte type, rather than a boom/bust pick. Schimpf and part time guys are interesting, but could really hurt if they don’t pan out and, in a 20 team league, I can only imagine what the wire looks like if you needed to find a replacement!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Grey kissed my girlfriend!: Sure, if there’s a reason and other positions are readily available… I’d obviously want Odor over Lawrie

  3. Joey says:
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    Hey grey I’m in a 12 team dynasty league keep 20 with total rosters of 35. We are able to trade our entire team of 35 all off season until we lock in our keepers a few weeks before the draft. I was hoping to get your opinion on my team and where to improve. I traded my depth this offseason for stars…cause it’s fun, really. I traded for sale correa sanchez and odor this off season so far. This would be my 20 keepers if I locked them today. Thank you in advance.

    1b. Rizzo
    2b. Odor
    SS. Correa
    3b. Machado
    C. Gary Sanchez
    OF. Mookie Betts
    OF. Adam Eaton
    OF. Empty
    Util. Daniel Murphy
    Util. Empty
    NA. JP Crawford
    NA. Brendan Rodgers
    NA. Victor Robles

    SP. Chris sale
    SP. Carlos carrasco
    SP. Julio Teheran
    SP. Anthony desclafani
    SP. Vincent Velasquez
    SP. Jose de Leon
    SP. Jose berrios
    RP. AJ Ramos
    RP. Sam dyson

    I can keep Dillon Tate, nick Williams, or Chris carter over Sam dyson if you advise it.

    I also have 4 first round draft picks including first overall, 3 second rounders and 2 third rounders. Thanks, you’re the man

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Joey: Team looks pretty balanced, see no reason why you wouldn’t be competitive unless hit by unfortunate injuries… If I had to quibble, you’re a little light on power, but you still have spots to draft

      • Joey says:
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        @Grey: I moved Daniel Murphy for giolito Gallo and Austin meadows. I can re draft murphys numbers I think. What do you think of the players I received for him

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sounds okay if those guys pan out in a year or two

  4. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Loving the continued Schoop love. If you could keep him at $5 does he beat a $6 Khris for your final keeper spot? (Other keepers are Rizzo Betts Story Dahl Moncada Kershaw in a 5 outfield league).

    Surprised you’re not on the Villar train as much, but I agree he’s more like the guy you described (not a 62 sb nearly 20 hr guy). That being said, I think Villar gets a big boost in OBP leagues thanks to his walk rate . . . if you compare his stats to say, Trea Turner, replacing AVG with OBP, they start to look more like twins.

    Also like the DJL piece . . . those projections look a lot like 2015 Brantley (minus some counting stats), no?

    • Cram It says:
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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: You come up with some weird player comps, brah. Looks like 2015 Brandon Phillips with a higher avg! ;)

      • Cram It says:
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        @Cram It: 2016. Well, 2015 with less steals. Ah screw it.

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Cram It: Ha! Yeah couldn’t tell you why! Now it’s a joke, but for a while I literally couldn’t stop comparing people to Todd Frazier . . . who honestly is probably the LEAST like any other player out there.

        Anyway, the Brantley one was definitely not so subtlety motivated by the fact that I’m one of those masochists who hasn’t had Brantley since the year Razz called his breakout . . . but for some reason am interested again now that his shoulder hit a landmine.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: They’re tomato-tomahto… Villar worries me a little, but not as much as the rest of that tier, as I said above…. I think LeMahieu is like Frazier but with more average, less power and at 2nd

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Good call on the Frazier comp. Makes sense.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’m like Frazier, only don’t play baseball

          • Robert says:
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            @Grey: He’s like Frazier in that he played in the Little League world series?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I watched the Little League World Series once, for about an inning

              • Robert says:
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                @Grey: How else am I going to get 10 years ahead of the game in my dynasty league?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  DeLorean?

  5. Nick says:
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    Hey Moustache ,

    welcome back for a 2017 baseball season

    thanks for your early rankings ,,,
    can’t wait for all of them cause …

    here is how my keeper team is set for now: (14keepers)(25players /team)
    Top of the Pop:
    1B Golschmidt #1 Encarnacion #5
    2B Altuve #1 Trea #2
    OF Springer Desmond top20 +Myers

    Rest of consideration :
    C Contreras #4
    3B Carpenter (#10)
    OF Trumbo -Bautista – KDavis (#20-30 OF)
    SP Archer (#12)Salazar (#30)
    RP KJansen #1

    Bubble:
    SP RHill – AReyes – McHugh
    RP CAllen – Dyson – Oh

    NO keepers:
    Lamb
    Taillon Lugo Cotton

    Nick the French Stick

    • Joey says:
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      @Nick: taillon isn’t in consideration over hill or mchugh? Or Reyes for that matter

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Nick: McHugh is out for Taillon

  6. Andrew says:
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    Dynasty league. Who would you rather have going forward, Murphy or Dozier?

  7. Count de Monetball says:
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    Sensory overload! So many keystones to chose from! That is the 2nd longest post ever! (See yesterday for the longest)! I’m intrigued on how these guys are going to shake out in the overall rankings; liking schoop this year again too!

    As a thank you Grey, let me write your entire post for Monday for SS except for the lede, uh umm, here goes:

    #. PLAYER NAME – I went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball

    Have a great weekend!

  8. Jason says:
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    Morning Grey,

    Which player would you want in a “keep forever” keeper league?

    Hamels, Trumbo or K.Davis

    It’s a deep 12-team H2H league.
    Hitting categories are: R H HR RBI SB K(against) BB TB AVG OPS
    Pitching categories are: IP K/9 K/BB W QS ERA WHIP HR(against)

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey:
        Is Hamels too much to give for Trumbo straight-up or it’s fair?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Decent, fair

  9. Digger Phelps says:
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    Grey – Before you get inundated with “this guy or this guy” questions you have to answer in a vacuum (if you haven’t already started), I just want to thank you for the work you do on these rankings. I was mediocre at best in fantasy Bball until stumbling upon your site and am now consistently competing for the ‘ship. Specifically, the pitcher rankings have helped me hit on a lot of under the radar guys, so I look forward to reading those each year. I’m sure I speak for all the readers when I say we appreciate the quality rankings blended with a sense of humor. Selfishly I just hope my league mates also don’t find the site! Cheers brotha and keep up the good work.

    -DP

    • Digger Phelps says:
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      @Digger Phelps: I forgot I actually did have a random question: Have you or Rudy done any analysis on the accuracy of the stream-o-nator or hittertron compared to other sites? For example, comparing the weekly pitching rankings you have to that of ESPN’s “fantasy forecaster” or something like that. Not to call out another site or anything, just out of curiosity.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Digger Phelps: Rudy does it all the time…

        There’s this: http://razzball.com/ombotsman/

        And Rudy wrote a post comparing all of them to the Forecaster…. Forecaster didn’t hold up at all, it’s written on Saturday (I believe) and stays unchanged… So even if it were close, it never accounts for pitching changes all weekend, whereas Rudy makes all matchup changes

        • Digger Phelps says:
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          @Grey: Awesome, thanks! Yeah I figured you guys would dominate on that, I was just curious.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            No problem

  10. JoeG414 says:
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    One of your boldest projections is that Cano gets 2SB

  11. Copperhead Road says:
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    Great post, Grey. I’ve been waiting for this one. So many questions with these guys, as you say. Here’s mine. A keeper one:
    WWGD?- What Would Grey Do?
    Context- I plan on Beltre at 3rd (or at least until THOSE rankings come out!), Machado at SS. I have lots of power with other keepers but it’s always nice to have more.
    Would you rather play:
    a) Turner at 2b, Segura ($3) at MI, OZUNA ($4) OF
    b) Turner in OF, Schoop ($5 ) at 2b, Segura at MI and drop OZUNA
    c) I guess there is no C
    I kinda like Segura at the price and could use steals so I think I know what your going to say. But still would like your opinion on who the better keeper is for the price- Segura, Schoop, OZUNA.
    As always, Thanks.

      • Copperhead Road says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. That’s what I was thinking too.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  12. Big W says:
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    Hey Grey,

    So Villar hit .298 in the first half and .270 in the second half… Why do you not believe? Why will he hit .257 in 2017?

    Every year in my keeper, average has plagued my team. This off season I decided to make a culture change… traded away Frazier and other low average guys and acquired Villar, JD Martinez, etc. I was feeling pretty good about potential average for my team and now I’m not feeling so good after seeing your .257 Villar projection. There’s still time though… I can trade him. He has lot’s of value to my league mates.

    – Paranoid Big W

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big W: He had a .373 BABIP last year which seems crazy high…. He also Ks at a 25% rate… Not great for a high average….

      • Big W says:
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        @Grey: Well I guess I’ll have to hope for another lucky season. I guess it’s not the end of the world if he will be my only .250 hitter… at least it’s not .220.

        Thanks for the logical explanation Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  13. Fungazi says:
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    Unless I’m not understanding the tiers, the only guys you are going to want to draft are the night shift crew?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Fungazi: I like the front few (Altuve, etc)…. Night Shift is ideal… And Carp and Baez tiers are okay, but Carp’s is boring and Baez’s just may not play

  14. Zeus says:
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    There were a lot of career years last year. Seems fishier than Betty Whites privates

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Zeus: Ewwww

    • Robert says:
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      @Grey: He’s like Frazier in that he played in the Little League world series?@Zeus: Really, the inimitable Betty White? If you are going Golden Girls reference, the joke kills much more with Rue Mcclanahan

  15. Clint says:
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    Pearce is only listed as 1B in my league. Where would you slot him in those ranklings, good sir?

    • Clint says:
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      @Clint:
      And you wrote a sleeper post on Tim Anderson but then didn’t rank him? Bruh……

      • Clint says:
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        @Clint:
        Scratch that. Anderson’s only a SS in my league too so maybe I’m jumping the gun on that one.

        • Montezuma's Revenge...right now says:
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          @Clint: in between wilmer and dietrich

  16. joeybell says:
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    Your Villar projection implies that you think that last year’s power was more legit than the speed? I was sure you’d say 11 HR, 45 steals. Any more thoughts on how you got there?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @joeybell: Average comes down, steals will due to less times on base… You wanna say 11/45 instead of 13/37, not really that big of a difference, about a week more of steals for yours

  17. Warren says:
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    The only ranking I can quibble with is Carp. Seems pretty dependable, two straight years of .235 ISO and a great batted ball profile (9% soft contact last year!). If not for the injury he would have hit 25 again. Only 31, so injury or age cliff doesn’t seem like a huuuuge problem.

    Basically, he seems like Cano/Murphy to me, likely hitting 3rd behind Fowler and Diaz so should have a solid 85+ R/RBI. Why is he down at 15? Seems like he should put up a top 10 season to me. Also I am in an OBP league so he’s even more attractive (and Odor even stinkier).

    What are your concerns with him? Age?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Warren: His HR/FB on career is below 10%… His biggest fly ball year was 177 fly balls… That gives him 18 HRs… Of course, he can have a higher fly ball rate or HR/FB but at 31 career norm seems closer than thinking upside

      • Robert says:
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        @Grey: I was wondering the same thing because doesn’t any of that change slightly with the approach when hitting 3rd vs. the times he has lead off or 2-holed it (pun definitely intended)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I doubt it, don’t have high hopes for him

  18. Joe says:
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    What about Moncada? What are the chances he gets the starting job? Regardless, he’ll probably get 400 ABs this year for the rebuilding Sox. Thoughts? I’m VERY high on him in keeper leagues, especially given that the steals give him a high floor – and he has a direct path to the Majors.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Joe: He’s ticketed for minors as of right now

  19. Montezuma's Revenge...right now says:
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    who do you see at 2B if not drurrrry?

      • Montezuma's Revenge...right now says:
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        @Grey: marte ARI? at 2B?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ketel, yeah…. Why do I need to keep approving your comments? So weird… Could you try to comment with a different name to see if it keeps happening?

          • Montezuma's Revenge...right now says:
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            @Grey: rosterresource is weirdly showing ketel one in minors, forgot about him. it’s been doing that for months (saying each comment needs to be verified)

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              re: Moderation — Yeah, but only for you… That’s why I’m wondering if you just try to comment with the name Bob if it would work… Trying to figure out if it’s your IP or username causing problems

              • Montezuma's Revenge...right now says:
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                @Grey: i’ll try that, but i’ve seen you ask about this same problem for at least 3 others in last 2 weeks or so.

                i’ll try “bob” here in a second.

  20. dhouse42 says:
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    Do you think odor continues to slip to 3rd or even 4th round in a typical 12-team league? That would be awesome.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dhouse42: Yeah, I don’t think most are taking him in the 2nd round

  21. G says:
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    Hey Gray,

    Excited to be back in baseball. Knew when I had a dream about losing my third round pick it was about that time.

    So, my four keepers are machado, Arenado, Correa, and Trea Turner. Love all of them – but would you trade Correa (round 9) or Machado (round 5) for Rizzo (round 7) to have my infield set and give me more flexibility rather than having to put one of those guys in one of my two utility? If so, would you be comfortable parting with either one for Rizzo if owner likes over the other? Who would you rather give up for Rizzo? Thanks as always.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @G: Ha! Machado for Rizzo

  22. Matty says:
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    This is where I’m having the toughest time with my deep twelve team dynasty.
    I plan to have Schoop ($3) as my main 2B squeeze, but I’m still tempted by my Segura ($13) and Baez ($9) side pieces.

    I also can’t decide what to do with Nuñez for $4 but he doesn’t become an issue until Monday and Tuesday when you do SS and 3B (Story for $5 will be the main SS).

    Is there a tier of pitchers I could hope to get for two of those three (Baez/ Nun/ Segura)?

    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Matty: Hmm… Baez and Segura? That should get you a low #1, at least high number #2….

      • Matty says:
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        @Grey:
        Excellent.
        (Number one starter means top fifteen or so? Number one on my team, right?)

        Thanks again.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Top 20 SP

  23. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Great post, man! It’s like a modern day Mona Lisa!

    a. Arrived today in Farchana, USA! All went well with the flight, I unpacked everything, showered AND am at work to boot – the Chadian trifecta!

    b. This list of 2B has me really scared!!! So, yesterday’s message – draft one of the top 2 1B. The message today – draft one of the top 4 2B. What will be the message on Monday? Draft one of the top 2 SS? Man, we’re in trouble this year! Seems like HRs will be way down – thanks, Donald!

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Ha, thanks! A. You got Chad on lock! B. Haha, yup!

    • Big Odio says:
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      @Ante GALIC: really? My takeaway was you can wait on 2B because of the depth. You cant go wrong.

  24. StewZilla says:
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    Glad the rankings have arrived! Thanks as always…

    Quick question…I can acquire Corey Seager for Noah Syndergaard in my Head-to-Head auction keeper league. My team is below. I have Trea at SS currently…but could slide him over and try to move Cano in his last contract year for another arm. I tend to devalue pitching in Head-to-Head leagues…but am I doing so too much here?

    FWIW I won the league last year….

    C Jonathan LuCroy $3 1 year
    1B Joey Votto $29 1 years
    2B Robinson Cano $23 1 year
    3B Todd Frazier $8 1 year
    SS Trea Turner $2 4 years
    OF Bryce Harper $20 5 years
    OF Ian Desmond $2 1 year
    OF Yeonis Cespedes $18 (can re-sign up to 5 years)
    UTIL Nelson Cruz $9 2 years
    UTIL Adam Jones $8 3 years
    BN Jose Bautista $8 1 year
    BN Hanley Ramirez $15 (up to 5 years)

    SP Noah Sydergaard $11 4 years
    SP Carlos Carrasco $5 4 years
    SP Jon Lester $18 1 year
    SP Carlos Martinez $2 1 year
    SP Jake Odorizzi $3 2 years
    SP Justin Verlander $5 1 year
    SP Kenta Maeda $8 2 years
    SP Danny Duffy $6 up to 5 years

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @StewZilla: Depends what you can get for Cano, but the trade is fair

  25. Raoul Duke says:
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    I think you are spot on with the Baez blurb. I’ve had Javy on my team for a couple years and have been begging for him to get traded because I think he has the potential to hit higher in most lineups not named the Cubs. Anyway, thanks for keeping my fantasy game on point.

  26. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Grey,

    A guy in my league is asking for Pujols, Duffy and Cain. He wants to know who I would want for them. This is his team:

    Wieters
    Han-Ram
    LeMathieu
    Justin Turner
    Andrus
    Nelson Cruz,
    Cespedes
    Morales
    Bradley,Jr.
    Desmond
    Myers
    Pence
    Santana
    Kyle Seager
    Trumbo
    Gio Gonzalez
    Gray
    Happ
    Kluber
    Tyson Ross
    Matt Bush
    Hererra
    Jim JOhnson
    Andrew Miller
    Marquez
    Osuna
    Robertson
    Colome

    My pitching staff is stacked:
    Bum
    Duffy
    Kershaw
    Lynn
    Maeda
    Roark
    Scherzer
    Shoemaker
    Thor
    Verlander

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know what you need

      • Scott Kimmel says:
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        I am looking for bullpen thats why i asked for Miller, help better backup at OF, probably one or two SP

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Depends what the other guy wants to do

          • Scott Kimmel says:
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            Gray, Miller and Myers

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Myers and Miller are solid

              • Scott Kimmel says:
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                ask him for those three?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  What three?

                  • Scott Kimmel says:
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                    I get Gray, Miller and Myers for pujols, Duffy and Cain

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Gray’s garbage

                    • Scott Kimmel says:
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                      Sonny Gray garbage?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yes

                  • Scott Kimmel says:
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                    Im trying for Kluber instead of Gray

                    • Scott Kimmel says:
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                      there is another offer on the table of Pujols and Cain for Miller and Myers. Thoughts?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Sounds fine

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That would be better

                    • Scott Kimmel says:
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                      he wants to do the Gray, Miller and Myers for Pujols, Duffy and Cain. If I dont take gray, what pitcher should I ask for from him? Happ or Tyson Ross?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      None of those SPs

                    • Scott Kimmel says:
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                      Grey these are his SP:

                      Gio Gonzalez
                      Gray
                      Happ
                      Kluber
                      Tyson Ross

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Kluber, or forget it

  27. Big Odio says:
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    Was that Seattle fan line a ploy to get a sky appearance in here? *crosses fingers sheds a tear*

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: then a call out for tehol?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Fangraphs are all Mariner homers

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Grey: makes sense. Nothing else better to do in that weather.

            Does that mean tehol could work at fangraphs?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Um, yeah

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Grey: that was meant to be a joke.. like said with a smirk

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  You’re smirking like a merkin?

                  • Big Odio says:
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                    @Grey: jerkin’and a lurkin’

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That should be your bumper sticker

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      Look out for the lurkin’ and jerkin twerkin’ the gerkin’

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Now, I have to look away

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      you know can’t look away, like me when anything with Ted Knight or Judd Hirsch comes on the TV

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Like you watch Mary Tyler Moore

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      when I was a kid I’d watch reruns of everything. Lou Grant was my spirit animal!

                    • Grey

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                      I guess I was projecting, I never watched any of that crap

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      we had this tiny black and white TV in the garage and I would sit out there all the time watching TV. Didn’t matter what it was, Id watch it. It was funny, we got burglarized twice at one of our houses and both times they didn’t steal the old black and white.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Sherlock spins around…The crooks were definitely not colorblind!

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      those technicolor bastards

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      At least you can weed out 3% of the population

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Damn, Tom would get play from any cootie with that game

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Grey: Best part is, “what’s that? Howdy bitch.”

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, yeah, if Tom doesn’t get laid within ten minutes of that, I don’t know game

          • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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            @Grey: You know that snake Jerry Knoblauch’d Tom and went home with the girl and the glory.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I know Jerry Orbach… Jerry Knoblauch?

              • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                @Grey: That was just poor sentence structure. The mouse Knoblauch’d the cat. I was being polite and watching my language.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Ah! I thought for a second you meant couldn’t throw the ball ten feet to 1st base

  28. Matt says:
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    I checked, I am not related to Neil Walker. Just like him now that he is out of Pittsburgh! Hilarious that I truly did come here to see what you had to say about Walker.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, you might be related and didn’t know it!

  29. Landru says:
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    Hey Grey.. 12-team points league, a little SP heavy, 6 keepers.

    Would you trade Villar for either D.Duffy or M.Fullmer?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah

      • Landru says:
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        @Grey: Thanks Grey! Moving from DEFCON 1 to 3 now.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          We’re all in 4, hurry up!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wouldn’t take that bet… Ralph knows every underground rapper that has passed through Boston at any point… Even if they were connecting from Nova Scotia to LaGuardia

  30. Copperhead Road says:
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    Last time we had 5 career years in the span of 5 guys?
    How about 2000?
    Jeff Hammonds 94/20/106/.335 152 hits
    Darin Erstad 121/25/100/.355 240 hits!!
    Mike Sweeney 105/29/144/.333 206 hits
    Jose Vidro 101/24/97/.330 200 hits
    Richard Hidalgo 118/44/122/.314

    Ahh Steroids. There may be others but most of what these guys did they were career highs or close enough to argue they had career years in 2000.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… That’s a solid five, right now you’re in the lead!

  31. Damon says:
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    I know the OF rankings are coming, but, Grichuk or Keon Broxton in a dynasty league? I know both were sleepers for ya, but who is more sleepy? Or is it less sleepy?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Grichuk is safer, Broxton has bigger upside

  32. Copperhead Road says:
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    Can you imagine drafting Hidago late as a 4th oufielder and getting those stats. The following year he followed it up with 70/19/80/.275
    Regression Fairies hit hard!
    January 2001: “Grey, I was just offered Hidalgo for my Bonds. I should do it, right?”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      The crazy thing is in those years Hidalgo was barely ownable because you needed your OF to hit at least 45 HRs each

      • Copperhead Road says:
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        @Grey: Ha. True

  33. Another Dan says:
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    Thanks Grey,

    find myself going back and re-reading what you’ve written several times. As others have said both informative and entertaining.

    Am trying to upgrade my 2B in a 12 team H2H 6×6 (BB and QS) keep forever dynasty. I have Kinsler but am making enquiries about Odor. Guy has expressed an interest in taking two of Sanchez, Bellinger and Buxton.

    MLB: 33/30
    C – J.T. Realmuto – MIA
    1B – Paul Goldschmidt – ARI
    2B – Ian Kinsler – DET
    3B – Daniel Murphy – WAS
    SS – Orlando Arcia – MIL
    IF – J Abreu – CHW
    LF – Andrew Benintendi – BOS
    CF – Mike Trout – LAA
    RF – Carlos Gonzalez COL
    OF – Odubel Herrera – PHI
    UT – K Seager – SEA
    UT – Max Kepler – OF MIN

    BENCH – Gary Sanchez – C – NYY
    BENCH – Ryon Healy – 3B – OAK
    BENCH – Brock Holt – BOS
    BENCH – Byron Buxton – OF – MIN

    Which one :-
    (a) Sanchez and Buxton for Odor
    (b) Sanchez and Bellinger for Odor
    (c)
    (d) Sanchez and Kinsler for Odor
    (e) none of the above

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks, Another Dan! Sanchez and Bellinger for Odor works for me

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Or Bellinger and Buxton for Odor… If you prefer to keep Sanchez, I think they’re pretty even this year, Buxton’s upside is more interesting to me

        • Another Dan says:
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          @Grey:

          Thanks Grey.

          Been reading this site long enough to be pretty meh, about all Catchers.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Yeah, exactly

  34. Bop says:
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    Obviously, you are not a big fan of Daniel Murphy for 2017. Could you please explain the huge difference between your take on Murphy’s 2016 season and Baseball Forecaster’s (“making another 20+ HR well within reach”, “steady xBA gains validate another .300+ BA”, “now among the elite”)?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Steamer projects Murphy for 14 HRs, FanGraphs projects him for 16 HRs… If Shandler thinks 20+, then that’s on him… Everything about Murphy’s 2016 looks like an outlier…

      • Karen says:
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        @Grey: Shandlers and staff predictions are more reliable than yours year after year. I’d go with Shandler any day over your predictions. Don’t quit your day job. Instead of trying to be so “clever” when writing your predictions why don’t you actually do some real research? Your site is a joke. I only look at your site to know what not to do. From 1 of your 5 lady readers.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Damn, that female reaction to me brings back a lot of high school memories

  35. Richard Davis says:
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    Would you trade Dansby and the #3 pick in this years prospect draft(Maitan), both of them, for Moncada?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah

  36. The JoGarza says:
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    Hey Grey,

    In a 12-team NFBC style league, I draft 12th. Was thinking about going Miggy and Correa. But if the opportunity is there, should I be greedy and go Miggy and Rizzo? Or would that hamper me later in the draft?

    Never done NFBC so not sure which way to lean.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d go Rizzo and Correa

  37. Big Odio says:
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    Kimmel Scott!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      The Unbreakable

  38. swaggerjackers says:
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    There were a couple good chuckles in this post. I appreciate the many outcomes for Schimpf.

    I also appreciate that you acknowledged how Castro hit your projections but was still boring. I remember having that exact thought while staring at his projections before drafts last season.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

  39. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Grey,

    The deal took a wild turn. WOuld you make this deal?

    I give up: Pujols, Duffy, Cain and Maeda
    I get: Myers, Miller, Gray and Kluber

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

      • Scott Kimmel says:
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        because of Gray, Grey?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, yeah

          • Scott Kimmel says:
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            you dont think Gray can rebound?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Wouldn’t bet on it

              • Scott Kimmel says:
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                ok thanks

  40. Chucky says:
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    Competitive 2017 team. 12T 6x6OBP Keep forever, no contracts. Last three spots: Votto, Murphy, Lindor, Villar, Bregman, Dahl, Scherzer and Carasco

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Lindor, Votto, Scherzer

  41. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Grey – which side do like in a 12 team keeper?

    $30 Kershaw, $6 Khris, $10 Dahl

    or

    $19 Strasburg, $23 Blackmon, and $10 JD Mart

    or

    $25 Scherzer, $16 Maeda, and one of $10 Dahl or $19 Cruz or $4 Nunez

    I’m leaning towards the Kershaw one.

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Kershaw

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: thanks good sir!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  42. muskysmell says:
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    YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST:

    Peraza will be a top 5 2B in 2017.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      If he can get 500+ ABs, I could see it

  43. Nightpandas says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Would you move Mazara for Carrasco in a 15 team partial keeper? Got lots of bats but my sp to pick from are Harvey, Matz, Walker, Gausman…not great

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s fair, sounds decent for you

  44. Quimmy says:
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    Sir, in my long term keeper league with OBP, SLG and TB+BB as additional cats besides the standard 5, I loaded up on offense:

    Altuve
    Rizzo
    Machado
    Springer
    Lindor
    Desmond

    There won’t be a lot of good bats in the pool outside the first round, so I didn’t bother with pitchers. However, I was offered Sale for my Desmond. Extra pitching cats r INN, k/9 and QS.

    If I don’t do it I’m looking at a rotation with my best case scenario being SP2’s as my staff leaders.

    At the same time I feel like the bat is way more valuable. Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

  45. ThE sHiT says:
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    Damn, another young player passes. RIP Yordano Ventura

    • The Harrow says:
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      @ThE sHiT: this one ain’t like with jo-fer though, this one could easily have a more involved story to it (re: some sort of foul play). i’m not saying i have any news on that, but yordano certainly wasn’t jo-fer. jo-fer was the nicest human alive. some would be turned off by using the actual adjectives (speaking ill of the dead is a popular thing), we know about yordano though i don’t need to.

      • The Harrow says:
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        @The Harrow: i mean having some sort fear of speaking ill of the dead is a fairly popular thing, even thought the exact opposite would seem to make sense (game theory wise, hard to have repercussions and all)

        • The Harrow says:
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          @The Harrow: i was wrong, there already is some other news indicating something more involved went down, an andy marte (a teammate on KC apparently) also died in a “separate” car accident. how these 2 could be completely separated of course seems like complete b.s.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, shame

  46. "bob" says:
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    test test test. check. czechoslovakia.

    • "bob" says:
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      just realized, using a newly made up name isn’t the best thing to check with, as when using a name the first time you ALWAYS get moderated first.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Yeah, now try Bob again and see if it works

        • "bob" says:
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          @Grey:

          • "bob" says:
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            yep, same issue. maybe if i sign in to razzball all the time first, i’ll try that.

            • "bob" says:
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              check check, czechoslovakia

              • "bob" says:
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                nope, that didn’t help.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Damn, that is weird… But it seemed to go straight through when you commented as The Harrow, didn’t it?

                  • The Harrow says:
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                    @Grey: mine do go through, but i’m not this bob character.

                    • The Harrow says:
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                      @The Harrow: maybe you need so many posts in a certain time window to not be moderated or something like that.

  47. Roger Podacter says:
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    GREY!

    I don’t have any questions..

    Okay here’s one – what is your preferred number of napkins to have when you’re eating a cheeseburger?

    Does that amount change when eating an all beef American hot dog?

    inquiring minds..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t love burgers, more of a hot dog man, thanks for calling in!

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